Great vid..friends come round and always comment on my turntable hum..they havnt heard that since the 70s..it pleases me brings back memories of there parents hifi

Best tip ever! I was searching the internet about how to solve my hum. Nothing worked. I noticed that it somehow had to do with my amp. I noticed that when I put my turntable further away, the hum got less. But the configuration of my tv cabinet I couldn’t move it further away to solve it completely. Then the genius tip, switch amp and turntable. My transformer was on the left side too. The side I had my turntable sitting. Switched, no hum! Gone! Thanks a lot for the great tip. Cheers to you!

I've watched this video 3 or 4 times as I've had really annoying buzzing. It sounded like dead channel, but you could hear the channel. Turned out too tight a mounting bolt, that really wasn't too tight. Madness of analogue.

Really interesting and yes I agree in a lot of cases the noise can be the proximity issue you mentioned. Enjoyed the video and your explanations.

Thanks for the very interesting video 👍. As the owner of a couple of older Rega planer 3 Turntables, that are both much modified, the only time I've noticed humming is when I had an R200 tonearm fitted. This deck is now fitted with: a modified Rb251 tonearm, SRM Tech Silent Base and the matching TT psu, 24v motor and pcb from a Rega P7, among its many modifications. My other Planner 3 has a modified Rb300 tonearm, later Premotec 110v motor and Isokinetik Isodrive branded Heed Audio PSU and PCB, among a few other modifications and has always been hum free. Both these turntable and tonearms have had various motors and psu combinations too, only because I like to experiment 🤯 and have been hum free.

Just wanted to thank you for this. I had a horrible hum on my turntable which I assumed was a ground issue. Turned out to be a proximity issue which I have now corrected due to you and your informative channel. I was about to fork out for a new turntable which I still may do in the future but it is no longer a necessity. Bless you sir.

Thank you , very informative , i had a slight hum with my P6 and Brio setup , repositioned the amp further away problem gone.

Hi sir very informative as usual , I have the rega p3 and rega phono stage plus the rega speed controller . And indeed I notice the sonic hum as the arm progresses across the plater . If I was to be critical of rega I would say the fixed length of the phono cables from the deck would benefit from being longer . Now weather this would eliminate this problem I’m not sure , But I’m of the opinion it would do no harm . As a retired electrical contractor I know full well the high frequency problems that can affect all sorts of sensitive equipment . So with this in mind just let us think for a moment and consider how a phono stage works , it’s job is to amplify a very small signal . So by virtue of its task in hand it will do exactly that to every thing within its potential wavelength . But fortunately our saving grace is that when we listen to the music , most of this negative background noise is lost to us . Yes there are those who are able to detect such frequency’s , and find their listing experience diminished because of it . And I can fully appreciate there dilemma , but as our good friend has proven most issues can be overcome . Best wishes and kind regards to all especially our genial host 😀👍👍👍

Thanks for sharing this info. It's great to hear from someone who has lots of experience. 😊

When you were talking about a Systemdek picking up radio stations, I was just remembering that my IIX used to pick up taxi radios now and again, and then 4-5 seconds later, you mention the same thing! 😄

Hi! Great video! Really saved me a lot of debugging ☺️ For me the issue was a dimmer in close proximity to the turntable

Thank you so much you helped me finding a solution to this Problem! I just moved my pre amp 2 racks down in my hifi rack, now the noise is really reduced :)

A very good video. Another cause of hum with older decks can be mechanical vibration from the motor finding it’s way into the replay chain. Hence the hum is only present when the stylus is in contact with a spinning record. Quite a few 70s belt drive decks used rubber mounts to decouple the motors. The rubber goes hard with age and no longer isolated the motor adequately. Often the rubber parts can be restored using liquid soap and hot water. Pioneer PL12D is an example of this, but many others from that time are very similar in design.

This is awesome, thank you. Almost in direct answer to my question the other day about putting a ground (earth) on my P2. It does have the issue with touching tonearm, or even getting close to it. But I’ve got loads of other things to check now, I’ll let you know how it goes. I’m especially suspicious of my receiver which Yamaha N303 with network cable running right into it Thanks again

Excellent video! Explains the issues well

I have a Rega P3, playing through a Project Phono Box E and a MarantzSR 5007,feeding a pair of Mission MX3s. Sounds absolutely awesome, with absolutely NO phono hum whatsoever, though the Marantz is insulated from the turntable and pre-amp by a fairly thick glass shelf on my equipment rack. Works well for me.

@chuckmaddison2924

10 ай бұрын

You may have answered my problem. The phone box. I have one turntable and 2 amplifiers and sets of speakers. With the Denon, the grounds must be connected to cut the hum . But when I use the NAD the ground must be cut. So maybe the phone box for isolation is what I need.

Really interesting and I’m sure it’ll help a lot of people. Does make you wonder why turntables are so popular when you have to deal with so many potential issues! I was born in the 80s and as such fond myself going for digital every time.

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Problems are rare thankfully

@jc51373

Жыл бұрын

Rationalize much? digital has ZERO issues, gimme a break. Todays vinyl is arguably much less complicated than todays digital.

Thank you! A viewer of my channel that I've been emailing back and forth with sent me your video. I have a P2 and when I pick it up and move it away from a UPS (battery back up) it gets quiet. I thought it was a grounding issue, but after watching your video its a proximity issue. I used to have it on a suspended platform and never had an issue with it then. I guess I'll be moving some things around!

only just seen this video of yours regarding buzzing . I never thought of checking moving the amp or uncrossing cables . That sounds like a job ill look into the next time i'music

best video on “buzzing “:) on youtube , thank you for sharing this is very useful for a lot of people, i have rega io and P1 and it was buzzing , only when i grounded rega io amp using grounding cable connected to grounding metal in power plug in the wall ( european system) and connect to turntable grounding knob on rega io , the buzzing stopped , i think my issue is house is not grounded properly , or it could be wi-fi or anything in house , i will investigate it further . thanks

@lawrencecabrera5937

2 жыл бұрын

Had the same buzzing sound happen on my P1, did the same thing and as you mentioned once I grounded the phono mini to the ground plug from my power strip the buzzing disappeared.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawrencecabrera5937 yeah I had the Rega mini (still do) and it was quieter than my new Bryston BP2 but unfortunately/fortunately? the Bryston at 10x the price does sound better. The only "solution" is to not crank up albums too loud because it's not horrendous at this point.

Very useful video. My problem was that I had quite a noticeable hum from both speakers, Rega Brio, Dali Specktor 2s, Schitte phono stage. Nothing seemed to work so I unplugged the other components one by one. I have a Yamaha Music cast dac/streamer, and it was this - though not the device itself. It's powered by a small usb plug in, like the ones you use to charge phones etc, and this was the culprit. I swapped it for another one and all was fine. There is still a low buzz when I put my ear right up to the speaker but I'm putting this down to the Brio.

Finally a video touching on the original Rega Bias and later super Bias, and Bias 2. From your comments I understand they were ok, but probably the suspension is not good anymore

Great informative video thanks👍🏻

Hi Phil,, great and interesting video, the Elyis 2 dies pick up low level hum as it goes towards the end of record, however you rightly said change the cartridge will solve the issue, did try tuning an earth wire from the motor housing to see if that resolve it. I have a spare ortofon cartridge and tried it and yes hum much reduced. Regards mark

Thank you for a very good video

Thank you for your video I learned a lot thanks to you

I got the rega planar 3 18 months ago it has hum it used to have a continous popping noise too. I have the marantz pm 6007 that has a ground on the case too. It was suggested to attatch a thin wire from the left outer ring of the phono lead of the turntable to the earth on the marantz. It was very cluttered behind my system with x2 tacimo filtered 6 way extention leads because the TV & set top box, wifi router & playstation was near by so I managed to de clutter that by re routing some stuff to a seperate socket & it's cut the noise about 50%. Apart from that I was stumped I only had the planar 3 deck on at about up to 33% volume before the hum annoyed me. The popping i think was due to the routers old proximity but OK now. So happy I treat myself to some new speakers, b&w 607 s2 anniversary. Now I am happy with the whole sound & system.

Excellent vid

Very interesting. Thanks.

That is a very valuable video say the five times fast. Personally I have the newer planar 3 with an elys 2 that definitely picks up more noise as the arm gets to the middle towards the motor as you point out. I agree I don't think it's a grounding issue. Perhaps I am getting proximity issue problems still but having bought a Bryston BP2MM with PS3 power supply didn't help at all if anything probably noisier than the little Rega Mini phono stage. Does sound better I must say. Perhaps adding a NEO power supply would improve the noise problem and apparently would improve the sound. Adding a new Rega reference belt might improve further as to sound quality. I should try turning things off like my wifi etc. to see if that takes out the hum but when a lot of it seems like it's the Rega motor that frankly I consider a dog in terms of noise from the get go. I would have to imagine Rega cut corners somewhere if nothing else they took out 2/3 of the weight in an apparent attempt to improve sound quality which seems a bit silly to me but they like the light stiff design and have gone a bit bonkers in that regard and one would think that if you want to isolate things like motor noise you build it a whole lot differently than wide open and less material. Anyway getting much more proximity is tough when Rega doesn't even let you put a nice interconnect and instead force you to use their interconnect and live with that and their chosen length. It's probably good I do like the Rega TT having an original planar 3 that is a freaking tank and if this newer one motor doesn't die long before 30 years I would be amazed.

@alanbratt3022

2 жыл бұрын

I have a fairly new P3 (3months old) fitted with a Rega Exact cartridge and have had no noise problems whatsoever.

@JohnDoe-np3zk

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanbratt3022 well most really like the Exact and many seem to not like the Elys2 so much, hum aside. What phono stage are you using? The Rega Mini has a separate ground and surely is quieter than this Bryston BP2 so I would imagine a Rega Fono MM model would provide quiet operation and great sound. My volume when not set too high is fine as to hum with my system, until maybe end of record. The Elys 2 (and Exact) are high output as is the Bryston so that creates a bit of a mismatch. I may get the NEO PS to see what that does, supposed to be a sound improvement whether it lowers the hum.

@alanbratt3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-np3zk At the moment i am using a Project Phono E-Box, hooked up to a Marantz SR5007 receiver, driving a pair of Mission MX3s. I'm more than happy with the sound that this system puts out at the moment, so I don't think that i'll be changing much very soon, but am thinking, like yourself, of adding the Neo TT PSU to the system.

Fascinating ! Thank you. From what I can tell, lots of the noise coming out of speakers are WAAAAY above normal listening levels ?

I'm late to the party here, but thank you so much for this extremely informative video! I've got a Rega Planar 1, and the hum has been driving me nuts (partly because I listen to most music on headphones). It was indeed proximity, and strangely enough putting the Rega directly on top of my Rotel A12 amp rendered the least noticeable hum. Curious if the hum issue is specific to Rega turntables? I seem to be seeing this as a common issue online.

thank you very much!!!!

I remember an old Hi-Fi Answers article circa 1978 titled "Down to earth trickery.....humm" by Paul Benson regarding hum loops in a system. My Linn Sondek had a separate earth wire in the mains plug but the attached Ittok had an earth lead also. If the Ittok's earth wire was connected to an amplifier which had been grounded via its mains plug the two separate paths to earth could cause a ground loop audible as hum. I suppose this problem isn't encountered so much these days and that's why you didn't include it. Great video though.

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Good point... sometimes get that with the Nottingham’s... perhaps I need to do a ‘part 2’

Hello Cheshireaudio, I've been terribly vexed over an ongoing buzzing from my turntable (it's a Fluance RT-85 with a Sumiko Moonstone Cartridge connected to a Pro-Ject Tube Box S2 phono preamp) Since I have a second turntable & phono preamp I switched everything out. Buzzing was still present. I moved the turntable away from the AV receiver and that didn't work. I even switches cartridges and checked the connections. Nothing worked. Then it occurred to me to look at my AudioQuest cables and one of them was the culprit. When I moved it around the buzzing increased and decreased so I replaced it with a spare set of RCA cables and the buzzing was gone in a snap. It never dawned on me that a set of newer AudioQuest Cables could be defective. Luckily for me they're entry-level cables at roughly $40.00 so I didn't pay a fortune for them but even at that price range, one would expect a better experience. Anyways, your video got me to thinking outside of the box and within an hour I solved my buzzing problem. Thank You! Cheers!

I enjoyed this video. I have a new Rega Planar 3 and a Rega BRIO. As the tonearm finishes a side, when I lift the tonearm, the static is crackling and a hum is present, and when the tonearm is back in place, the loud buzz will snap to a silence, like a vent closing on the side of your house. Without an album on the platter, I can move the tonearm towards the middle of the turntable and the buzzing hum increases a lot. It is very hard to diagnose!

@beetlebum7760

Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with my new Rega 3 and it’s driving me crazy. I’ve tried everything to eliminate the buzzing, but failed so far. Did you find a solution in the end?

@LifelongMusicJunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@beetlebum7760 I tried 2 Exact cartridges and the dealer installed an Exact cart on one of his at the shop, with the same result. Probably a bad batch of Exact carts. I upgraded to an Ania MC cart and no issues, but the sound is not as warm as the Exact

@beetlebum7760

Жыл бұрын

@@LifelongMusicJunkie That’s too bad. I have the Exact as well. ☺️ So I’ll return it to my dealer and see if he can fix the issue without having to change the cartridge, as I’m also quite happy with the way it sounds.

@LifelongMusicJunkie

Жыл бұрын

@@beetlebum7760 Make sure your dealer has another Exact on hand. My dealer is a small local dealer so he had to order another Exact to prove that both attempts to fix it were the same. Good luck.

I had buzzing with a Technics 1500c mm or mc, Denon PMA100 amp, worse with the ground connected. It went away when I hooked TT and CD player up to a $31 Furman power strip and a heavy duty power chord for the amp direct into the wall. Records sound quieter with darker backgrounds as well. Not sure how it’s possible with just these two changes but it’s night and day.

Very interesting….I’m looking to upgrade to a Panar 1….I’m sure there will be no noise probs…thanks

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

It is rare

Ι have a 2021 P1 with the Mini Fono A2D. I have a hum that cannot seem to get rid off. Tried earthing from the phono pre to the amp and still does not fix it. The amp is three feet away from the turntable. Any other suggestions or should I return it. Is it possible earthing routing might be faulty? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

My new planar 3 hums at 60hz as the needle approaches the motor. It also has a sort of grinding noise underneath everything. I’ve changed cartridges and it hasn’t gone away. I’m about to put it on eBay

I have a new Rega Planar 3 with an AT VM740ML cartridge connected to a Rega Fono mk5 MM stage. It sounds great, but maybe 5-7 times over the 3 months I have had it, suddenly got a very large humming noise while playing records. When this happens, when I touch the tonearm or the Rega fono box, the hum disappears. When I remove my hand, the loud hum re-appears. I have no hum otherwise; only happened on those 5-7 occasions. Any idea what might cause this behaviour?

Can someone help me! I’ve just got a phono preamp for my vinyl player and got some studio monitors. When I plug rca into vinyl player and speakers there’s a really loud hum. My preamp is quite far away but the hum is still very prominent. Any feedback would be very helpful !

I’m trying to diagnose a loud hissing coming from my vintage stereo system. Only happens when the turntable is turning and is heard through external speakers or headphones. I’ll try relocating to a different room and try again.

I've a rega P1 speakers buzz when stage on and TT plugged into stage, no buzz when TT unplugged from stage.. buzz when touching cart or cart wires.

Hi, I watch your channel with every new upload. I wonder if you can be of any help, I have a Rega P3 with an exact cartridge. It is one year old. Any idea how to get rid of a hum that gets louder the closer the arm gets to the centre? I have tried touching a ground wire to various parts of the deck, moved deck farther from phono amp and amplifier to no avail. The hum is louder if the deck is turned on. I have seen others over the internet with the same issue. Thanks.

When the volume is low it’s fine but I like load music, so whenever I turn it up there is this whine that overpowers the music. I just upgraded from an Audio Technica LP60 to an AT LP120X the rest of the set up is the same.

Thanks mate. Just getting back into vinyl.. No longer in the uk but decide to go rega p2. Can't wait to get it. Do you have any vids on non rega cartridges to upgrade to? Much appreciated.

@ozzyvaldez1265

Жыл бұрын

Gold ring E3 good cartridge approx £100

My project essential 3 buzzing like mad. Could i just put a wire from amp to a 3 pin plug on the earth only

Ive subbed your channel

Oh I have to add, the way I got on to the earthing my Rega was a “very knowledgeable “ gentleman on YT comments section said “you just have to add a wire to your tonearm, DUH”….lol. Not only was he wrong, but rude too.

Going totally off topic slightly-what are your thoughts on record clamps-specifically the michell R for Rega decks.Do you think they offer anything sonically??

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

I never thought it really improved thing... the heavier ‘weight’ types do seem to offer an improvement though... and the motor and bearing are more than capable of coping

@depechem0demusic

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheshireaudio I think we can file them under snake oil-they do seem to flatten slightly warped records though so maybe give your stylus or rather the cantilever an easier time-and they do look rather cool 👍👍

I wish they would invent a way of packaging music that didn’t rely on these noisy machines. Like a way where you didn’t have to clean the device to have clear music come through.

My Systemdek IIX 900 has a very slight motor hum but thankfully it does not come through the speakers. It has a Rega RB250 arm without an earth lead but the deck has a separate earth post. It makes no difference if I connect this to my Project Phono Box MKII or not. The hum is impossible to hear when I play music but as I know it’s there is there anyway to get rid of it?

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

That’s more of a mechanical issue... perhaps a small amount of glue in the base of the spindle might help... it’s the same motor as the early Regas ... could possibly be a cap on the supply board breaking down ... but that usually causes speed issues too

@tonyjedioftheforest1364

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheshireaudio thank you for your advice. The hum is very very slight and doesn’t get in the way and the speed is spot on. It’s a psychological thing just knowing it’s there, you have to put your ear right up to it to hear it. It’s probably me just being paranoid.

Thanx for the vid....just got the Audiolab 600a pro ject table fine but my rega 6 making noise only when I move or touch the arm...any ideas? Did you work in Doug Brady's or better hifi maybe ?

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Is the stylus lowering on to the record ok? That’s an odd one... I was at Doug Brady’s from about ‘83 to ‘95

@danielmorgan9990

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheshireaudio I've sorted it...placed amp on bottom shelf of rack... connected pro ject to the phono stage & rega through a external phono amp ...working fine now...got my first rega in Doug Brady's ... nephew got it now,still going strong...1986...👍

still can't get rid of the buzz on my planar 2, was hoping your first trick there would work for me, maybe it's just the electrics of my building, been trying not to scorn Rega but right now buzz is always there while something plays which is very frustrating.

@jackwezesa1081

Жыл бұрын

May be a ground loop issue?

Should the speakers be completely silent then?

My P2 hums when not turned on, very faint but can hear something is wrong with its power supply (?)

I’m one of the lucky few that doesn’t have a hum problem at all-even with the volume cranked up

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully problems are rare...

@georgedoughly8682

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too. Mine is very quiet at all volumes.

A few years ago i used to have a neighbour who was a keen CB enthusiast and all his broadcasts would come through my Hi-Fi system, very annoying at the time.

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow :-)

@tonyjedioftheforest1364

2 жыл бұрын

I am a radio ham and my neighbour could hear me through a game chair. The problem was at his end not my equipment as I checked all my other neighbours and also everything in my house. I bought some clip on ferrite rings to solve his problem from Maplins but he refused to let me clip them on. He would rather just complain and cause trouble. A very nasty man, I am glad his wife kicked him out.

What cartridge upgrade do you recomend for a Planar 2? Thanks in advance for any advice.

@cheshireaudio

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve fitted the new Audio Technica Vm95 en to a few now and it matches it really well... also the Goldring E3 ... actually got stock of both these too after a long wait

@ianfletcher3367

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheshireaudio Cheers for taking the time to get back to me... Surprised the 100 quid(ish) Rega upgrade didn't get a mention?. Ian Fletcher.

@Us3rnam3_plz

2 жыл бұрын

Agree I used the same on my Planar 1plus... Along with some other bits of advice. It's sooooo much better now. Amazing difference

More than Earth it needs to be balanced even RCA can be you need to shield it all the way up to the cartridge body is the best approach and we'll cut out the noise. They are using the wrong type of cable you need triple should cable ideally 50 ohms and you got to shield interconnect wires to the cartridge with some copper tape you need to connect each channel together wires make sure they're touching closes possible with some cotton tie them together keep each channel separated as much as possible with a bit of sponge insulate the connectors to cartridge and from the head shell and wrap the head shell with copper tape make sure it's Earth out to the cartridge body and the arm is shielded as well a lot of arms are not properly shielded running one Earth wire is not a shield. You have to look at EMI interference as water, if you treat it as water then you will block EMI EMI will try and find any root possible to get in that's the nature of EMI interference. And don't shield your power cable to the wall this is wrong a manufacturers keep doing it, it needs to be Earth to the equipment not the wall socket. sealed your motor as well put a shield around your motor as well use some insulation tape then copper tape and make sure the copper tape is grounded

Hi would a shield missing off one wire will that cause a hum? Cheers

@goonluv

Жыл бұрын

As in the head shell

Just swap it out and put a CD player in it's place instead! 👍

my issue was the ground wire lol

16 minutes?

turntables insult islam especially rega planars

Thanks so much. Mine was indeed proximity effect. I'm ashamed to admit I had the turntable on top of a CD player with the cable running along the side of it. I temporarily put a 3-inch block of Styrofoam between them and ran the cable differently and hum is nearly gone. I'm convinced it will be completely gone once I put everything in a proper rack. Thanks again, subscribed