On my rega p1+ I found it did improve it for the price you can't go wrong. I work in sound so was quite surprised. You need a good ear & good system to notice it. My rega is on a granite plinth with feet & the sub is on the same unit also with feet to illuminate sub feedback. Having been adding various tweaks to get rid of the feedback & make the bass tighter. Am happy with this purchase. Have a bowers & Wilkins MT50 setup

I got one for Christmas this year, and yes, there was a noticeable improvement.

Its not just about fixing a warped record, its just as much about reducing surface harmonics and resonance between the cartridge and record surface even on non warped records, giving your expensive cartridge its best possible conditions to deliver the best sound it can. The idea is to improved and stabilize overall playing conditions as much as possible to optimize the sound whatever amount is possible with a given record and cartridge combination. We all know records are an imperfect medium so if youre any kind of an audiophile you will do whatever you can within reason to get the best playback results. It will always be debatable how much these efforts help, but the best way to compare and judge is to listen on a good pair of headphones, they will reveal subtle nuances that might go unnoticed through speakers that are subject to room acoustics etc.

Just purchased a heavy one for my Technics Direct Drive TT. Always thought that it was a snake oil tweak, based on many audiophile comments. I'm blown away, my set up sounded good anyway however, placing the weight on the spindle instantly improved the sound. Made me realise that without the weight many records appear flabby and loose. The weight tightens up everything, its like squeezing a 40 inch waist into a 32 inch trouser....Brilliant. The one I purchased is a NOBOSOUND 418gm

@ClassicHiFiReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Its funny that you say that. I also started under the impression that these stabilizers are snake oil but it definitely improved bass response and I had to order one more for my living room setup.

@Patrick7077

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, friend. I glad you said that cause I was worried about buying a 412 g clamp and I also have a direct drive turntable. What are the benefits that you noticed with this heavy clamp?

@philztops

3 жыл бұрын

I got some smooth river stones and put a few around the spindle, works great, cheap and adjustable too. ;-)

@philztops

3 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that it works best with Rock music.

@U.Ort.

6 ай бұрын

what is the ideal weight where should it be entered?

This is a great review and assessment of the stabilizer. That second one, the 12" is a great record!! I could hear the difference more on that one then the first. I have one coming in the mail and I'm looking forward to see if it improves my vinyl records.

@olvinyldude

5 жыл бұрын

You will be tickled ! Not good for all albums, but great at time..I have found best with Symphonic genre, and much proper rock..( i.e., Pink Floyd, etc.... Happy listening !

Nice video ! They are great..I use quite a bit..Thanx for this uplode !

The way I see it, a lot of people don't understand the concept of incremental gains. You might not hear an immediate difference from this, or your fancy isolation feet, or your nice mat but take it all away at once and you'd notice. Also part of the appeal of playing vinyl records lies in the experience. Anything that improves that experience for you is a valid purchase.

I found a Stabilizer like the one by Audio technica works better with direct drive turntables. Has impact on bass and air around instruments. A record clam works better with belt driven tables. The clam is usually lighter but for some reason does a better job st flattening records.

@moniqueduchossois1958

3 жыл бұрын

faite le vous meme facile s est ce que j ai fait et ca marche tres bien

@TBNTX

2 жыл бұрын

I agree..

@Jaytecx

2 жыл бұрын

Useful to know as I have direct drive AT.

When demonstrating for my friend the sound quality from my turntable, I reached for the same album and same song! Now maybe I want a stabiliser.

It was hard to tell because they don't just switch between the two seamlessly. I am using headphones with very good bass performance and though I thought I heard a difference originally, when I was careful to listen to the before and after close together, they sounded exactly the same.

In my opinion the sound is better without the stabiliser. Very nice turntable and good music! 👍

Great Video

I got the one at 0.30 and its great as it shows the deck level

Very classy looking deck!

What model is the turntable in this video? I can't seem to figure out what brand and model that is. Thank you to anyone who can identify it.

I can't distinguish if the clamp improves the sound but it looks cool. I will buy one for my TT. Thanks.

It is even more effective if you own a high end turntable with an acrylic platter. I have an older Rega with an English made acrylic platter (heavy by acrylic types). The more the record is pressed against the acrylic (weight), the more effect you receive. The back ground is darker, the bass is more pronounced, and the highs are clearer. You're talking about a $1000 turntable with $125 English made acrylic platter for the Rega. I have taken it off and returned the original platter, but the music is noticeably less detailed. With the platter, the records and platter meld into one, with no ringing.

How can i do with à 45 rpm to do the same effect?

what's the player your using with the auto arm, what's the song in 8:36?

I love that turntable! What is it?🎶😀

I have the same stabilizer. It makes very little difference. The guy at the hifi dealer told me to use a hockey puck for the same effect.

I feel like low frequency is more focused with stabilizer, but idk.

@analoguecity3454

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it CAN (not always) flatten the "top end"!

Hi, QQ, in which turntable was the test? which model?

I hear more dynamic on percussions with the stabilizer...

I have some old records that stick up in the middle, this would defenetly work for that

@ClassicHiFiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

That was what my journey for something like this started. But to my surprise also had a positive effect on sound and looks cool!

@darinb.3273

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicHiFiReviews The best types (in my opinion of course) is the ones that grip the spindle and tightly pulls the record to platter the other benefit is that it doesn't add very much weight to the platter spindle the could potentially stress it causing premature wear.

4:10 The tray cover is too hollow in the center. More weight, disc will be higher on the edge. (sorry for the translation)

Gosh, never used this 45 years ago on my Marantz turntable. Why is there a difference now? Are turntables not as good as they once were? Just curious.

@chrisovak

2 жыл бұрын

Is this a way to humble brag you've listened to records for half a century, or are you truly curious? Because the answer is obvious

Nice vidéo... Does it works with 7 inch vinyls with large hole ?

@philztops

3 жыл бұрын

Are you messing around with my girlfriend? :-(

@darren5942

Жыл бұрын

@@philztops Nice, well done 😂

The fit on the spindle will vary from table to table as all are not machined to exactly the same size, but the minute amount of play makes absolutely zero difference in how it performs, its a non-issue. The main benefits of these is to reduce surface resonance of the record and to a lesser degree help with minor warping - I have a few different weights and I decided not to use the heavier ones on my belt drive Harmon Kardon as its a bit harder on the belt, I also have settle mainly on the weight youre using here and for warped records I have a record clamp from record doctor, works like a dream to flatten and dampen the record

What turntable is he using?

whats the name of that turntable Thanks

@linuxholgi

4 жыл бұрын

Its a NEC AUP-8300E from NEC's "Authentic Series". They seem to be quite rare. Very solid build and a real aluminium front! Cartridge is an Ortofon Red.

@analoguecity3454

3 жыл бұрын

I like it! Cartridge too! I have the blue version!

Snake oil tested different ones just for curiosity on sl-10 and few other players and difference minimal to 0

I got the rocky IV soundtrack too lol....and its warped also.

@analoguecity3454

3 жыл бұрын

Love that damn record! I have the reissue! Wish I would have gotten an original!

My player would have been skipping like crazy on that second record

What is the name of those records?

@linuxholgi

4 жыл бұрын

First one is "The Alan Parsons Project - The Bold Bug", the second one the 12" from "Real Life - Send me an Angel" and the last one is from the Rocky IV sound track "Survivor - Burning Heart".

This video shows less about the effects of a stabilizer and more about the effects of auto suggestion.

@quattro4468

4 жыл бұрын

Plug it in through a oscillascope.

I think the clamp can stabilize better the Vinyl record if pushed down when sometimes doesn't go all down regarding to sound quality maybe there is a little better sound, I don't think I would not spend more than 50€ on a stabilizer it's Not worth it

@ClassicHiFiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, that's way too much money for some weight!

How perfect do these tests have to be before one can accept it. Maybe see a difference on a scope/meter but not with my ears......

My only question is: Eye of the Tiger or Burning Heart? 🤔

my feeling is.. if they make Turntables to run with a rubber belt of special rubber material.. then i feel that you should not put extra pressure on to the motor/belt drive as this is a very important part of your turntable.. extra weight is not really recommended in this area unless stated buy the manufacturer .. any feelings on this guys.. would be interesting ..Paul

@nanchanger

3 жыл бұрын

Good question...

@analoguecity3454

3 жыл бұрын

Most "mid-grade" to "high end" decks are fine for this! I definitely wouldn't use it on a deck under $300!

There Is a Massive Difference. The Bass Is washed out and flappy not solid without the Stabilizer. Much tighter with the Stabilizer.

1st track with stabilizer bass certainly has more focus, more impact and tiniest bit more depth. 2nd track, as you said, the difference was negligible. To me the 3rd track was most pronounced, again more focus, impact, and more noticeable depth than the 1st track difference. All of these are subtle at best, but you can hear them certainly.

@ClassicHiFiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

For my newer videos I will provide a link to a WAV recorded with professional equipment. That makes it hopefully even easier to hear. I totally agree with your comment.

9:05 CLAMP 9:47 no clamp

There definitely is a difference. Without the stabilizer, the highs are more prominent than the bass.

@nanchanger

3 жыл бұрын

Which some people prefer... ??

@analoguecity3454

3 жыл бұрын

@@nanchanger I do, a little bit! Crispness is important, but overall sound is more important!

You can get those for $16 on eBay from China.

@nanchanger

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone should try to avoid doing business with China...

I think 180 gram or 200 gram records are "built-in" record weights! Does that make any sense to you?

No difference for me...

lol . these help warped records.. thats about it..

mudou porra nenhuma, se vc tem duvida eh so joga em alguma daw, alinhar as duas faixas e inverter uma .

Way too much time-lapse and talking between sound samples! - Impossible to compare sound when you delay and talk between samples... The only way to hear differences would be to switch instantly (and quickly) between samples playing the exact same segment back and forth several times. And only to play the segment "after the whistle." Playing a segment with varying contrasts like the whistle then the drums is too much sound variation in one clip. And too much time between contrasts. If music changes too much during a sample it will again become impossible to compare subtle differences.

this guys test is bogus to say the least, i noticed a difference in the volume level when he removed the stabilizer, there is no way to know if he adjusted the volume or not, the video doesnt show it, it does not show the system the turntable is connected to, so you cant see what is really going on, so a side by side test can not be done, if the entire system along with him was shown in the video, and of him removing the stabilizer and operating the turntable, and not touching any part of the rest of the system, that is the only way to do a side by side comparison. you will also see that when he removes the stabilizer the video a fast forwarded video shows the arm in place and playing, you cant tell what he is doing during or before this happens. so its totally bogus. i have two record stabilizer/clamps what ever you want to call them, but its total BS to say that it changes or improves the sound quality to the point that its noticeable to the human ear, your dog or cat may hear the difference if there is any, but they cant tell, the main function of these accessories is to flatten as much as possible a slightly warped record. i have two custom made stabilizer/clamps, one is made from aluminum billet, the other is solid brass, and yes they look amazing, but add no musical difference or bring out what isnt already on the record. Ans depending on the weight, it can slow the motor down and you would have to adjust speed, that is if your turntable has that capability.

@ClassicHiFiReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that this is not a test meeting very high criteria. All I wanted to provide is a simple comparison. What I can guarantee is that no changes had been made on the amplifier or anything else. These are unfiltered recordings of the same setup - with and without stabilizer. If there is an audible difference might depend on your setup. Cartridge uses, turntable and density of the rubber mat on top of the platter surface etc. It does make sense that this additional mass may help to prevent the record itself from resonating. For future sound check / comparison I will do the recording of the audio on professional equipment and also provide a download of the audio file in an uncompressed format. The difference people are hearing here might also relate to bitrate (where how the video is watched) as well as the quality of headphone or speakers they play it back on.

@philztops

3 жыл бұрын

Don't pick on Classic HiFi he does a great job and provides some "sound" advice. Let's face it everything in audiophile land is a bit subjective, like anything else it's what you like and what you want to spend and how well you spend it. Sounds like you're on a bad trip, lighten up, it'll make you feel better.

Your posting a video on how weights and stabilizers make records sound better in yet your mic sounds like its from the dollar store... Thanks for the video but please get a better mic.

@ClassicHiFiReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, in my first videos I used a rather basic one. But upgraded over a year ago to a Yeti Blue.

Placebo. Does absolutely nothing for the sound. All you do is stress the bearings and motor.