An uncle's definition of Eternity was 'Plowing 80 acres with a two bottom plow'.

A man and his dad spending a rainy day working on a tractor. How much better could it get 👍

I’m sure that you know how lucky you are to have a dad like Senior!

I always enjoy watching you and your dad work together. You two are both so calm and collected, it makes for a very enjoyable video to watch. Look forward to seeing how the 8N does with the plow in the ground! Almost makes me want to get dad’s little N series going now!

I'm with you on the grease being better than anti-seize. Anti seize is great for smearing on the mechanics' creeper in the next bay so he gets a handful when he picks his creeper up! haha! !Enjoyed watching you and Sr. work on the 8N!

Thanks, Squatch Always enjoy watching you and Senior working together. 👍

Hey Toby,,always great to see you and Senior working together. And yes some of us, watch every minute and read every comment! Thats why when i need a Squatch fix,i rely on the 1113 build.

Nice to have a Senior episode.

There are two books on e bay that i recommend pertaining to setting up a plow. Better Plowing and Plowing at it's best both published by International Harvester. Tells exactly what is needed to match up a tractor to a plow. Inside width of wheels compared to plow cut being the major factor. Tells exact measurements for each size plow no matter the manufacturer. Happy Plowing !

I am still surprised at how versatile the old tractors are, and I'm pretty sure thats why they're still in use to this day. Easy to work on, easy to mod to address specific tasks... And a random thought, yeah my grandfather grew up on a farm that used only mules ....well, he started working mules to plow fields in the 1890s, and he called all tractors 'Mules'.

Great teamwork and you both have a pleasing presense on camera.

These Ford tractors were everywhere, in the farmland areas I grew up in, in the 50s and 60s.

Love those two-tone paint schemes on those old 8Ns - same for the old Ferguson 35s. Great work on the Ford!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Toby, great to see you and Sr together in a video. I think you have it adjusted for plowing. That’s the way my 8N spacing is set and it plows great. Can’t wait to see the 8N in action. Enjoyable video. Thanks

I wish handling the tires/rims was always that easy. I had to replace tires and wheels on my sons 8N. I had to beat the bolts out with an air hammer and 2lb dead blow. Those things get really crusty over time on the original top hat style rims. Love seeing some 8N love on the channel and hope to see you and senior plowing with it this summer.

I saw the jackstands slide in, and the axles above it and I was thinking to myself "RUBBER!" and you guys never disappoint!

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Old inner tube comes in handy 👍😂

Thanks for the video Toby! That is a sweet little tractor. My brother in law just picked up a 48 8n and a 9n. The 8n is a bit of a project but runs amazing. The 9n was bought off the original owners grandson and is ready to be put to work. They are handy little machines to have. Cheers

Thanks for the education. My dad died '77 I was 7 never got to see those days.

Dad was really excited to see Senior doing some narrating. Hopefully it fits out the door, 😂.

This comment isn't about today's video, but about your detailed description of the removal and re-installation of the PTO shaft on your Farmall M from a couple of years ago. I had to replace the bushing at the front end of the shaft and was able to do it because of the detail in your video. I did not have to pull the lid off. Thank You, Ellis Kinney

That’s a pretty sweet tractor

I spent thousands of hours on an 8N growing up. We moved the front and rear wheels multiple times a year. Rears went out to 88" and fronts in to 44" to cultivate 22" rows. Then back to regular setting (not sure inches) to mow and rake hay and do field work. We had a set of steel lug dual wheels that we used when loading manure from the corral. Thanks for the memories

A bonus of the rain is it should k ock the pollen down quite a bit, you might luck into some painting conditions if the buzzing pests calm down.

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I’m HOPING to be able to get the red on all of the Super M wheel pieces tomorrow - it looks promising as of right now 👍

That is the sound of my childhood. One neighbor had an early 50's Massey Ferguson. One neighbor had a Jubilee Ford. A couple had 50's Internationals, and I'm not sure what models. One neighbor had a late 60's or early 70's International. My step grandmother had a 50's International, probably an M, and her tenant farmer had probably a Super C. The only newer tractor around me was our Deutz, and it was a '75ish.

You made me yell out NO to playing in the rain. My tractors only get wet when they need a wash. lol

Always good to see The A Team in action.

I learned to plow on my dad’s 48 8n when I was 13 years old.

Always remember to rotate your tires every 5,000 miles or fifty years, whichever comes first. I like the look of the wheels with the offset outwards better anyway, and it's probably more stable on a hillside. That front end coming apart reminds of dropping a K-frame out from under an older Mopar front end that has torsion bar suspension. When you drop it away from its mounts, it just flops all around in about 40 planes of motion. They are actually kind of dangerous to handle like that. Nice job. Love it when you and Senior team up together.

The 8N is such a great tractor. The old 40’s/50’s iron was the apex of durability in my humble opinion.

Looks like it is ready to go!

Except for the manufacturer of course and not being gray in color gosh it brought back memories of my childhood. Edit beautiful restoration.

Working with your dad. I wish I’d done more of that.

We had a market garden up in the Northwest Territories of Canada and had exactly the same tractor and 2 bottom plow! Had many memories of plowing the 30 acres every fall to get the fields ready for spring.

Thanks for sharing this video with us. Love how you 2 work together (i assume on and off camera are about the same). Not all father son teams can be recorded... I think if you get close enough on your gross adjustments like wheel placement, the rest will be a matter of a couple thread revolutions on the adjusters--lots of plow day participants just hook on and try to go, so you are doing well. The stories I hear about draft control all seem to end with the farmer turning it off and plowing full depth (which is why you see homemade gauge wheels on mounted plows). Harry Ferguson&Henry Ford intended draft control to control working depth and load so a biography i ready about mr ferguson says he threw a fit when he saw a gauge wheel added to his implements. If you went through your lift cover as thoroughly as your other projects, you should be able to get satisfactory draft performance--wear is the #2 issue with ford ferguson draft, #1 is operator error. Those rear wheels have 8 positions they can sit in, although i think the N only use 6 or 7. If the rims are aftermarket you may need spacers to get the exact spacing since some specifications on reproduction parts are consolidated. You may end up moving the front axle out one more hole if you have tracking issues, I think centered in the rear track might be better than aligned with the inner edge--YMMV. Hope you have a productive summer and cooperative weather!

love when senior chimes in

I really like watching how you work and I really admire the calm way you and your father work

Keep your eyes open for a "Ferguson Jack"...

My best friends Dad had a 8N years ago and we loved it, we could do so many things with it that it was amazing. I love how nice yours looks and I missed the noise it makes.

Good video. I have a Ford 601 Workmaster about a 59'. Wish I knew enough to rebuild it.

It's interesting how similar the Ferguson tractor is to the 8N i noticed the front axle had the axle stay bars fixed to the center part of the axle on the 8n but it had the cast in lumps on the outer parts that my fergie has the axle stay bars fitted to

Good video 👍 the bog standard 2 furrow Ferguson plough over here in UK was a 10 inch furrow and rear wheel settings were usually 48inch centre of tyre to tyre, then with a 12 inch plough rear wheel settings were increased to 52 or 56 inch settings with front wheels set accordingly so that inside edge of front and rear tyres ran in line, final settings for getting the plough to run true can be achieved by turning the plough cross shaft one way or the other and also moving the whole plough either on land or off land by sliding it across the shaft 👍 looking forward to seeing it in the field 👍

Another very enjoyable video. Gentle, precise work.

I use a round mouth shovel rather than a pry bar when removing tyres. Allows you to lift, and drag the tyre away from the hub using the shovel as a skid, and also means you cal rotate the tyre by dropping it on the hub, move handle left or right, then lift tyre and bring handle to centre to jiggle the tyre around to line hub up. Also works great on semi truck tyres.

Looks great! I’ve always loved the Ford 8n. I did the same to my ‘53 Ferguson TO-30. I use that thing everyday around the farm.

The one thing I dislike about my '49 8N is reverse gear is about twice as fast as it oughta be!

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Senior has said the same thing about this tractor 👍

Loved this video, hope you video all of the required adjustments to get the plow dialed in. It will diffidently help me when I go to setup my Case 3 bottom plow

Excellent video Squatch 253 SR & JR also think you guys got Ford tractor all done nice on back and front wheels plus alignment perfectly too ! Thumbs up 👍 to both of hard working on this !

Good job moving wheels out should make plow work better and also make tractor more stable with wider track Looks like u are having some inside time for small projects hope weather does not get really bad

Wow it's nice to see one of those sporting its 3 Points hitch plough and the wheel stance looks much better and old friend had a Ford Ferguson which is pretty similar I recall all the times we changed it back and forth. Cool video loved it.

Nice 8N, till today I never new the early ones didn't have a live hydraulic pump. What would look sweet behind that would be a Dearborn 2 bottom disc plow.

Draft is critical when plowing and it's been my experience it can drive you nuts ,but when it's right it's a fine thing

Seems to me like is set kind of wide now but it will be interesting to see when you get ploughing with it.

It would have been neat if you had the tractor jack that Ford sold when these old Ford tractors came out. It would have lifted the whole tractor. If you do plow with this tractor, please post the video(s)....I'm a Ford tractor guy, having 5 of them ranging from an early 1944 2N to a 1967 2000 3 cylinder gas. I do have a '47 8N that I have been replenishing. Maybe try some stabilizer bars also to keep the plow from drifting from side to side? I know there is some debate on using stabilizer bars for plowing, but it wouldn't hurt to try since you already have the stabilizer brackets mounted on the tractor.

One of my first tractors was an `48 8N with the front pancake ignition, 6v. positive ground. I spent more time fixing it to run than I did using it.

My father had a TO-20 Harris Ferguson that he had a 2 disc plow for it. That plow would turn that tractor sideways when he tried to use it. The tractor was too light for that type of plow. He had a 3 point hitch disc for it that never was used in my lifetime. He said that it was too big for the tractor and that when he tried it out he had to be very careful because the front tires would barely stay on the ground when the disc was raised.

Looks cool with plow from the back.👍👍

That is a fun project to experiment with.

One aspect of farming equipment : it is designed for versatility because it would be financially impossible to have equipment design specifically for each task that may be needed by the many different types of agricultural operations in any given area .

Thank you for sharing this project.

That set up, looks like it'll be cutting a almighty wide front furrow..

Thanks, be nice to see the adjustments made to the draft control when the time comes. Best I remember you put top link in the top hole on the tractor and have the spring just loose enough to barely turn it by hand.

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This is such an early 8N that it doesn't have the top link bracket with the 3 different holes, it still has the 9N type bracket that just has the one, so that will make draft control adjustment a bit more difficult to dial in.

Looking forward to seeing the Ford roll some dirt.

Thanks for sharing

That is a nice size garden you and Sr. started. Any drainage problems on the build site after all the rain? Will your friend be growing grass to make hay like he did a few years ago?

Nice job!

Enjoyed the video!

Thank you guys

Rear wheel swap. At least there's no bolt-on weights to add extra fun by getting in the way or using through-bolts that end up holding the weight & hoop to the hub at the same time.

As per old massey ferguson manuals (as late as 60s manuals for the 135), there was a jack that would use the 3pls to jack the back of the tractor up

Thanks for the video Toby! A little change of pace but a great informative video. Can’t wait to see what comes next

Looks like you can squeeze out four different bias positions in those drive tires if you flip the hubs and the tires accordingly.

Love seeing 8N videos I've got a 51 with Sherman combo.

To run the hydraulic pump on the N series Fords, the PTO needs to be running as the pump is driven off the PTO shaft. This along with having the clutch engaged

Wheel spacing to inside of wheel for plowing , from center of tractor pto . 14 " is the magic number plus what ever the plow bottom is 14" + !4" = 28" . 14" + 16" = 30 " . All ways pull from center of plow . plow should be level side to side with tractor wheel in furrow and back of plow 1/2 " to 1" lower than front furrow . Plow draft rules for plows mounted and semi-mounted , On the land plows have the same rules other than the tractor sits up on the land and not in furrow ,so no 14" rule , but has a rule where dual wheels must not be to wide .If the duals run over furrow tractor loses traction on furrow side and wonts to turn tractor towards furrow be cause of more traction on land side pulling towards furrow ..I had a rod that bolted on the tractor that went out from tractor to furrow with a vertical rod that I eyed the furrow up with to know where furrow was witch I got from John Deere .

Good video

So at the end of the video, say "Hey Dad, don't get me with the plough!!!" 😆😆

Did I miss the episode where you tuned up the ford? Loved this episode btw!

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We didn't record any of the tune-up, just got it done :-)

Tighten your arm chains also. 😂. I had to learn that the hard way

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you need one of them ford jacks that used the 3 point to raise all 4 wheels at the same time

Sometimes sway bars can be of value too. 😊

I noticed you cranked the tractor to raise the 3 point. Have you ever seen the trick where you twist the PTO back and forth while the engine is off to raise the 3 point?

Toby, ford made a 3pt hitch jack for the 8n , really nice

Not sure if I remember right, but I think you have to remove the pans and put the rims on the inside of the pans to get the right wheel spacing for that plough. (52 inch wheel centres with 12 inch tyres). It's been a long time, so I'm sorry if I'm wrong.

52" centres should be right for a 2 furrow ferguson plough with 12" furrows. That's what we always ran on te20 and mf135. I think that's what you had originally 🤷‍♂️

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This is a 2-14” plow, a standard size for around here 👍

Mf users can make a frame that lifts front and back of the tractor at the same time for doing these jobs. This systems works when one raises the hydraulics.

What you need is to retrofit that sucker with those AC spin-out rims like on the WD-45.

Making a real tractor out of that. Tractors always look better with the wheels dished OUT.😂

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My uncle had a rig to lift all four wheels on his Ford , using the lift arms . I think it was a Ford built item,

never watched someone with such a dislike for anti seize as this channel, we used the stuff from Wurth and it was amazing, but then again at the cost of around $180.00 aus per 1kg tin it had to be

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The total sum of my experiences with Anti-Seize is that it just makes a mess during application, and it dries up and disappears within 6 months, leaving things just as stuck as if you hadn’t used it. Regular grease is less messy and is still there doing its job years later 👍

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@@squatch253 the KZreadrs I've seen using anti seize apply way too much, a ridiculous amount, we would often use it on the splines of drive shafts on early Ford Lasers and Telstar's ( think Mazda 323 and 626 models), never had a problem removing the shafts even years later, grease on the other hand would dry up and create issues. As I said though, I only ever used Wurth CU-800, never crap like permatex or any of the silver types,

The usual method to over come the problem you had with the plow is to loosen the bolts on the cross shaft and then move the plow sideways and use adjustable stabiliser bars to the 3 point hydraulic arms to fine tune its position. . Looking at the plow there is a lot of scope for this adjustment. .

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That adjustment is already as far as it will go, and it still needed more offset to track correctly behind the rear tire, so it was time to move the tire 👍

I said to myself, if they turn the tires, the tread will be backwards, then i thought about it and had an ahhhh... moment. LOL

Padded jack stands!

Hey if you need some more "content" for the 8n can you touch up the ford emblems on the fender and hood that makes my eyes twich lol , keep up the good videos, love them all

Hi Toby I always run te20 35 and 135 52" centres on the rear and 48" centres on the front. That's with 650 fronts and 11-28 rear, so the wheels run inside treads matching, then adjust the hake to cut a 10"" furrow or 12 what ever your plugh is.not sure what you call the cross shaft in the USA

My dad had a tractor like that when i was a kid and the neighbor had one they called a Ferguson or something like that but it looked the same.

That was a nice bit of content for a rainy day. She’ll need the usual adjustments when the shares hit the sod but you’ll have her in fine fettle in a few minutes. Hi Sr. 🥸👍👀✅

Inside of furrow wheel to where shin cuts furrow should be same as bottom size. 12", 14" or 16"

I meant sway bars that you add on at the bottom to keep your plow in one position