Yes, you fix a buzzing bass string by twisting it at the hitch pin one twist in the direction of the winding. Very good.

Thanks Jared for letting us tag along while you tune up that piano. I liked the screen overlays of the software so we can watch them as you adjust. I liked the multiple camera angles as well.

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen!!

LOL DUDE! I am so hyped that I found this video! I was just trying to fix my CP-70 and all of a sudden I'm hanging with my good bud Jared again! 10/10 WOULD HANG OUT AGAIN.

@jaredlichtenberg

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious! I just sold this CP-70. RIP. They are rad though! I will probs be in TN later this year for work, let's hang! Hope you are well.

Using tones is how I tuned my old 1930s Wurlitzer spinet. the apps were just too laggy and it became a PITA.

Very informative ...well done video! Also love your sense of humor! Great video, looking forward to the next ones!

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

thank you, Dad!

It's actually a Baby Grand Piano with pickups added to it so you can hook it up to an amp. These Pianos have always been hard to keep in tune on the Bass side due to the Bass strings not being long enough, Yamaha has cleverly solved that problem by making those strings a tad bit longer.

@jaredlichtenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks Oscar!

Thanks Jared. I'm just about to tune my CP70B. Just waiting for my tuning kit to arrive from China. Your video is a great help. Thanks a lot! A year after buying mine, the MIDI model came out. I was extremely annoyed!

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Good luck Pete! Let me know how tuning goes.

Cool sound, cool tutorial to tune an electric piano!

The MIDI instrument almost sounds like a low bitrate mp3 in comparison to the real thing!

Nice background music... At the beginning, you sounded like you took on a bit of a Norwegian accent there... Hei! One thing I learned is that on a piano similar to this... the strings can be tightened by winding them on themselves... Great camera angles... Always enjoy your musical talents and humor... Please record more music videos... Good job, Jared…

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, Grandma! Love ya.

Great so see this old piano! I owned a CP80 with MIDI, and also a Kawai EP-308. But they simply were too spacy and heavy for mee to keep over time. I ended up with a Yamaha digital piano and I'm more than happy with it.

@jaredlichtenberg

Жыл бұрын

I currently have mine in storage, but it's quite a beast to set up!

@b-music9329

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg Yeah, it's a tank ;-)

Success! Great vid. Piano sounds awesome.

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, friend!

Great J.. I wish I had known a tuning man like you for my CP, which sounds like a bbq grill 😭

I wonder if anyone out there has used the new Peterson Strobo Plus HDC Tuner as it features CP60/70/80 mapping.

Having less strings than a Standard Piano means it's easier to keep in tune and getting it tuned is a snap

5:39 I think the wire was wound on itself

I have a CP80, it is SO HEAVY .

@jaredlichtenberg

2 ай бұрын

Correct! haha. They are SUPER heavy. I had to get rid of mine last year :(

It is signed by Les Mc Cann?! Nice!

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! It was rented out at a show he played at, apparently back in the early 2000's. This is what the previous owner told me, anyway.

I only first learned that this process was necessary when I was sixteen in 1996, around the 10th anniversary of the Sting concert documentary Bring On the Night. Near the middle, there is a scene where a piano tech is tuning up the CP-70 that was the centerpiece of Kenny Kirkland’s keyboard arsenal for that tour. One feature of the Yamaha Disclavier line is that you can mute the harp section and just use the keyboard as a MIDI controller. Can that be done here?

@jaredlichtenberg

2 ай бұрын

Hi there - I mean you can just mute the audio output of the piano, and just use the midi output. In a stage settings you wouldn't be able to hear the piano anyway without amplification. So - yes!

2:49 As you can see it's a True amplified Piano

Great Video! Cool Idea comparing the sound to the Rhodes. It seems though that you did not use a stretch tuning. Is that not necessary for this instrument?

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I have no idea. I attempted to use a real piano tuning software application before, and was more confused than anything. More than likely user error! It does tune like a normal piano though.

@F0nkyNinja

2 жыл бұрын

There is a special stretch tuning for CP pianos explained in the service manual

@tunguele

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg the bass string has to be out of tuning for down and the trebel are out of tuning for high

How is the midi functionality like? Is it worth getting it? Your demo sounds amazing but it might just be the plugin that over compensates the lack of pressure sensitivity with time intervals,

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Greg! I think it is worth finding a CP70 with the Midi function built in. It's been great to make it more versatile for sure. The keyboard does have velocity sensitivity though, if that's what you're referring to?

@gregdeligne2689

4 жыл бұрын

Jared Lichtenberg Yes, I was referring to pressure sensitivity. I was told it didn’t have it at all and that it was a simple press down. I would want to find a CP80M. Thanks for the video! It was great to see how “easy” it was to tune the piano.

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregdeligne2689 Thanks for watching, Greg!

Which addictive keys vst sample are u using at the end of the video?

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

Hello! I used the upright piano from the Addictive Keys family of piano plugins. They also have a CP70 patch, coincidentally.

@joschpz4715

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg imma get it. Thanks for the response

Have you, by any chance, recorded any songs on that CP70M and have taken advantage of the MIDI output? I’d love to listen to any of it.

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Greg! I had a demo at the end of the video that shows both the MIDI out and the analog 1/4 pickup output being used, switched between then. Is that what you were thinking?

@gregdeligne2689

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg Yes! I would actually love more of it in order to determine how the midi functionality holds up compared to newer midi keyboards.

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregdeligne2689 Wish I recorded the midi data with audio input in a separate MIDI and audio file. The keyboard is very good at sensing velocity, and seems to hold up to modern keyboards. Probably was very advanced for a midi controller of the time!

Are you sure that the midi has velocity sensitivity and that it isn't an impression from addictive keys? Thank you.

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Greg - Absolutely certain. I can play keys with different touch (soft all the way to loud) and it reads a velocity based on the press for each midi note.

@gregdeligne2689

4 жыл бұрын

Jared Lichtenberg That sounds too good to be true! I definitely need to get my hands on one of those pianos. 😄

@F0nkyNinja

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregdeligne2689 From what I understand, you can Midify any piano for around $2000

“String in the wild”

@jaredlichtenberg

4 жыл бұрын

haha! Oh yes

Am I correct in discerning you didn't use a stretched tuning for the piano? If so, how come?

@jaredlichtenberg

3 ай бұрын

did you watch the whole video? I am just curious. I am not a professional piano tuner, nor claim to be one. :)

@eddievhfan1984

3 ай бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg I did. And I meant no negativity-it's still a beautiful-sounding instrument after your repair and tuning work. I just noticed you tuned each string (especially the lowest and highest ones) about dead-center, and I had learned about stretched temperament from independent study and talking with another piano tuner.

@jaredlichtenberg

3 ай бұрын

@@eddievhfan1984 Oh! not negatively taken at all. I think with time, and if i still had the CP70 I would have probably figured this out at some point.

5:46 The Core wire tends to buzz over time.

@jaredlichtenberg

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know why it does that, Oscar? I am not sure.

@RockStarOscarStern634

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg I guess it's a sign that the strings are starting to wear out & need to be replaced. Thankfully Mapes has the good stuff

what is the difference between cp-70 and cp70b?

@jaredlichtenberg

2 жыл бұрын

HI there! Yes there is. The "b" stands for balanced - the CP-70B had two dual mono XLR outputs, opposed to just the 1/4" outputs of the standard CP-70.

@scottptolomey3498

Жыл бұрын

CP-70 (1976) have the power switch at the front the AC input is like a standard 240 3 pin standard flex cable 1/4 inputs and single mono output CP-70 B (1978) originally was just an upgraded model the power switch was moved to the r/h side /supply is a circular twist-lock pin adapter at the side to stop it coming out when hooked to a mixing desk or amp with improved pre-amp and balanced output when the bigger 88 key CP80 was introduced. CP-70/80 D (1984) was dual mono improved pre amp and could be adapted for MIDI use although a lot of the older models could be adapted for the Forte MIDI mod - twist knobs replaced by the Graphic EQ sliders on the face panel CP-70/80 M (1986) has now built in MIDI same format as the previous model this was also when the CP60 M was introduced which was an upright version and not as heavy as it’s bigger brother but all three CP models were discontinued not long after as the digital piano became principally an easier option for studio and live stage use.

Who's the signature from?

@jaredlichtenberg

Жыл бұрын

Les McCann!!

It needed a soundboard to make it sound that much thicker.

sound detune

This guys a hack. There's a lot more to tuning any piano than this especially when you loosen and re tension the bass strings. There are more tools you'll need to do the job properly.

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Greg! Not claiming to be a piano tuner. Do you suggest any resources that I could use next time I try to tune my CP70 more properly?

@Dany-o3w

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg See if you can get a piano tuner that knows how to tune a cp70 locally. Most do I’m pretty sure. You ask questions and stuff.

@jaredlichtenberg

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dany-o3w Thanks Dany!

@gregmyles5852

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredlichtenberg . It takes many years to learn to tune pianos properly. A CP70 can be a challenge for experienced tuners that haven't tuned one before, because of it's small stringing scale, to get the bass sounding right. You'll need a coil lifter when you wind up a loose string. Always energise the string (play the note) first before turning the pin. If the tuning pins aren't set right when tuning it will go out of tune. That is one of the reasons why you should get a professional tuner to tune it. Electronic tuning aids are only used as a guide for professional tuners. All of the final decisions are made by ear according to the intonation of the intervals & the stringing scale of the piano.

@homeone4054

3 жыл бұрын

Also the CP70 and CP80 pianos have specific tuning curves to take account of the short length and type of strings. Yamaha put the curves and tuning guidance in the owner's manual from memory.

È ANCORA STONATO E POI DITEMI CHE CA..... C'ENTRA IL """"MIDI !!!!"""""

Hey do you still own this CP70? I have questions about tuning ! Do you have Instagram ?

@jaredlichtenberg

Ай бұрын

I no longer own the CP-70 unfortunately!