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Tuesday's Tip of The Week #13 Steadier Bow Arm Tip

This is a follow up for my Instructional Video on Form. This video shows you how to set up the body to have a steadier bow arm by using the correct lateral angle and stabilizing muscles.

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  • @yi-tzaistoyreview4576
    @yi-tzaistoyreview45766 жыл бұрын

    You compound guys are our kindred spirits. We are all working towards the same goal, which is to be an exceptional archer. I shoot recurve and primitive horse bow. And I knew of the shoulder, but after this, I decided to add a dimension: I purposely now push down towards the ground (i.e. before I bring the bow up. I have my string hand on the string, bow pointed down, arrow nocked. I push toward the ground with my bow arm to make help of my shoulder to settle low as I draw.. So, ur vid helped me.

  • @barrywhittle6696
    @barrywhittle66965 жыл бұрын

    Really love your tips Rob as the smallest amount of tension can make so much of a difference. Love your logic and calm approach.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for that, Barry!

  • @mikeburger6183
    @mikeburger61834 жыл бұрын

    I used the roof line in the background ... pretty level, great instruction.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @jamesstrength5405
    @jamesstrength54056 жыл бұрын

    Wow!! This video helped me tremendously. Made me realize I was over drawing putting everything out of alignment. My groupings improved right off the bat.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear, I'm glad this helped!

  • @RF-cz4ln
    @RF-cz4ln6 ай бұрын

    Great video , thank you.👍🏻

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @jimkirk7766
    @jimkirk77667 жыл бұрын

    This video is a good visual aid to what you said last night about drawing with my elbow down. Will refer to it as I work on changing my draw and getting the release elbow up. I might also be pulling too much weight.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's possible on the draw weight. I see that very commonly. If you're unable to draw the way we talked about, you'll need to back down the draw weight. At first it'll be a new muscle group taking over and it will feel harder for sure.

  • @Spencer1143
    @Spencer11435 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips really helped me out

  • @ken244
    @ken2442 жыл бұрын

    new to bows. Thanks

  • @theamazinggoldfish8713
    @theamazinggoldfish87134 жыл бұрын

    Hi I just added a homemade extender rod (2.5') to my hunting bow's 8" stabilizer, and similar V-BAR to. The aim is dramatically improved for a hunting bow which works better for my small frame.

  • @obertone3242
    @obertone32426 жыл бұрын

    Sniping's a good job mate.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @Zenon120476
    @Zenon1204766 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Robert. Will focus on this at practice

  • @bobhart900
    @bobhart9006 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful tips.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @benNo1989
    @benNo19897 жыл бұрын

    Informational video, thank you. i really appreciate it!

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad you like it!

  • @MonBilly78
    @MonBilly786 жыл бұрын

    A very good video!

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @CambronAustin
    @CambronAustin7 жыл бұрын

    this will definitely help when for nationals i am going from MS fixed pinds to MS Ope i

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad it'll help out on the transition! You'll like going to the open class. Good luck!

  • @JayN4GO
    @JayN4GO8 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Glad I subbed. Would like to see a vid on anchor points. Esp on short ata bows. I notice you use a kisser style anchor. I'm wanting to add one without putting pressure on my string. Look forward to more vids as we all learn something from each. Thanks bud. Still working on my grip also

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!! If you haven't seen it yet, I just uploaded a video this week on tying in a kisser button. I also did a podcast recently with Hook and Arrow and I talked about setting up anchor points with shorter ATA bows. You can find it here: www.hook-arrow.com/podcast/ PC#20

  • @johns1501
    @johns15018 жыл бұрын

    Ok thanks I am still working on my bow arm and grip. I still haven't found a position yet that feels like it is locked in. I will keep working on it. Thanks again

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Feel free to email me a photo or video too if you'd like for me to take a look at it. rcrchery@gmail.com

  • @johns1501

    @johns1501

    8 жыл бұрын

    +rcrchery Ok thanks I will do that tomorrow.

  • @horseshoeshandgrenades5384
    @horseshoeshandgrenades53848 жыл бұрын

    FYI, it was a torn labrum O had repaired in my left shoulder

  • @tehMightyNgan
    @tehMightyNgan7 жыл бұрын

    My left arm to shoulder joint felt pain at times. But it is especially pain when I am pulling out stubborn arrows from the board. Not sure if its my draw posture or I strained it while pulling arrows.

  • @ShannonForaker
    @ShannonForaker6 жыл бұрын

    Hello! Still have a question on shoulder alignment. While I understand the general idea of having a shoulder down and maximally stable, joint can be fixated in several positions, and it's unclear which one is correct. Shoulder and blade can be fixated closer to chest (front) or towards the back. Moving them back lowers shoulder more, but feels unnatural and under load shoulder still moves toward chest. Can you give advice on joint position?

  • @mad4669
    @mad46697 жыл бұрын

    I need to work on my bow arm, my shoulder gets tired after a few shots

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a draw length issue if I had to guess. Or a bow set up issue depending on form. I went over this with my newest Instructional Video on professional archer's form and the two types you see. vimeo.com/ondemand/proform/189412527

  • @michaeledwards7668

    @michaeledwards7668

    6 жыл бұрын

    @@rcrchery what issue do you think it is if your bow arm feels like it has too much pressure on it/shaky/elbow feels like it's getting strained?

  • @ryanh5435

    @ryanh5435

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@michaeledwards7668 definitely sounds like draw lenght

  • @BobleeSwaggner
    @BobleeSwaggner4 жыл бұрын

    If you turn on community contributions, I'll add type up the subtitles.

  • @amansaini2931
    @amansaini29316 жыл бұрын

    Sir what exercise we can do to stable the bow hand because it go in left and right and up and down

  • @jmcg1363
    @jmcg13637 жыл бұрын

    How do you apply back tension to the bow arm? I read a randy ulmer article, and from what I understand, you are supposed to squeez you should blades together, but that seems to make the shot pull left. Are you using back tension on the bow arm?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    Squeezing the shoulder blades together will make you hit left usually because it'll take the bow arm and pull it behind you. It also makes it really difficult to pull through a shot because you're not allowing yourself room to pull the release side scapula over towards the spine. You want to let the bow arm stay out and forward and focus on holding it up and steadier with the muscles underneath the armpit and the frontal deltoids. Flexing those muscles at full draw with help. Then you'll have room to increase the flex in the release side back muscles to continue to bring the arm back/around.

  • @jmcg1363

    @jmcg1363

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @jasonnester9514
    @jasonnester95145 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been working on a lot of things for Along time and I cannotttttt get rid of this holding low problem

  • @jackstevens2968

    @jackstevens2968

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jason Nester proberbly target panic

  • @faustoallosada5183
    @faustoallosada51837 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to know how I can get in touch with the commentator giving all these instruction information videos.

  • @andrejslv4192
    @andrejslv41925 жыл бұрын

    Could you please add captions? Christ on a crusafix

  • @PitbullGC5665
    @PitbullGC56655 жыл бұрын

    Thanks great tip will work on that. By the way what model Hoyt is that thanks

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's a Podium

  • @PitbullGC5665

    @PitbullGC5665

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @vaibhavtandon.5424
    @vaibhavtandon.54247 жыл бұрын

    can u tell me how to improve body position when your body is bending back

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    7 жыл бұрын

    Towards the end of this video I go over some helpful tips. kzread.info?o=U&video_id=pkJDXOdeVGc

  • @johns1501
    @johns15018 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always! Right now at full draw I'm getting a up and down ticking motion instead of a nice float. Do you have any ideas what I am doing wrong?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    It's very possible the front shoulder is hunched up. I see that as a very common factor on vertical float. Depending on the movement up and down, it might not be very bad on the front shoulder. Even little adjustments can help you really lock the bow arm in place. It could also be loop height for your pulling point causing you to fight the aim a little bit. If you feel it settling up or down and you fighting it back to center over an over.

  • @enzohenriot4642
    @enzohenriot46426 жыл бұрын

    Dear RC, does this method apply to Olympic recurve too? I mean stabilisation of the bow arm... My front arm tend to sway jsut on release and I get really inconsistent at times... Thanks in advance.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Parts of this can carry over but it's a little different when it comes to recurve. I set my body up for a natural point of aim with compound and recurve, the little I've shot recurve at least, and that always seems to work best for me. Opening and closing of the stance which rotates the hips and shoulders to keep you in the middle of the target. If you're not pulling straight and linear with a recurve, or compound, it'll pull you off the middle too. You might check to make sure you're going straight back with the release arm and not snapping at the shot to anticipate it.

  • @Tater4200
    @Tater42006 жыл бұрын

    Been practicing last few days. And today I shot maybe 10 shots. And my left shoulder is THROBBING

  • @potatostomatoes4599

    @potatostomatoes4599

    6 жыл бұрын

    dylan scronce probably to much weight

  • @controversialhunter8032

    @controversialhunter8032

    6 жыл бұрын

    I shoot a 3 arrow set , 40 to 50 times a day at different distances, And notice that I seem to , what fills like to me lean the top of the bow in and the bottom out to get my bubble level, I'm a right handed shooter , do you think a rear stabilizer will help this. The bow is a Hoyt Pro Defiant. My shoulders don't bother me. I've been shooting like this for 25+ yrs but I go nuts if I don't shoot at least an hour a day.

  • @jackolantern04
    @jackolantern048 жыл бұрын

    Hi, These vlogs your doing are really helpful. Can never get enough info :) Watching this one has made me wonder if I need to change my style slightly. Stance and alignment looks very similar to yours but I've always had a slight bend in my bow arm. I've always felt its more relaxed and takes out tension. But it does make me use my tricep probably too much. Once in a blue moon my bow arm is completely still and I could aim forever on the centre, I guess this is the objective. Could it be I need to straighten my arm more? Cheers from the UK, Steve.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Steve, I'm glad you're liking the videos! Taking out as much muscle input as possible is the best route for most everyone to go. Having muscle influence means muscle repeatability is required to keep a consistent shot. Our muscles are always changing though, so you can see where that becomes an issue. Don't stress on the pin sitting dead still in the middle. That's an over aiming issue and one that's best to be avoided. You want to build a subconscious aiming system and build it around your shot timing for your natural float. I actually go over this and teach it in depth in my newest instructional video you can find here: vimeo.com/user48998158/videos Titled, "How to Shrink Your Groups & Raise Your Averages".

  • @jackolantern04

    @jackolantern04

    8 жыл бұрын

    That makes sense to avoid using muscles directly. I'm going to work on that for sure. Thanks for the response and I'm gonna work my way through your vlogs now :)

  • @Dan-hd3cs
    @Dan-hd3cs3 жыл бұрын

    Whoa. Is that your neighbor's kid playground right behind your target at 0:40?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine from when I was a kid. Still standing, although leaning some.

  • @joshroe2000
    @joshroe20004 жыл бұрын

    My bow arm gets shaky after a few shots what should I do .

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    It could be that you're not aligned properly, draw length is too long/short, or that you're bow weighs too much for you currently.

  • @jasonnester9514
    @jasonnester95144 жыл бұрын

    Problem I have at full draw is I’ll come down onto x ring then my bow arm slowly keeps dropping takes every ounce of strength to hold it up

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes that's coming too far down into the x ring to start with for drawing motion. It can also be a loss of pressure in the back end because there's not enough front weight on the bow/stabilizers to make you active in the shot.

  • @jasonnester9514

    @jasonnester9514

    4 жыл бұрын

    rcrchery I’ve had more front weight on my bar and that only made it even harder to hold up

  • @fulldraw4274
    @fulldraw42745 жыл бұрын

    What was the previous video on form?

  • @KalvinLo
    @KalvinLo8 жыл бұрын

    what bow do you recommend for a beginner into targeting?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any dealers near you? What brands if you do?

  • @KalvinLo

    @KalvinLo

    8 жыл бұрын

    +rcrchery yes, I was looking at the hoyt podium gtx, and pse xpression, look cool, but never shot either one

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Kalvin Lo honestly either one of those would be great. The HyperEdge would be good too. The Podium will be the biggest jump coming from a hunting set up, but the GTX cam will be milder and a good choice as well for draw length adjustments and feel.

  • @KalvinLo

    @KalvinLo

    8 жыл бұрын

    hi, i tried both HE and podium, beside they are bigger in size, i dont feel any difference. i think my powermax will just work for me atm. thank you sir

  • @jtv2748
    @jtv27488 жыл бұрын

    Damn Cicada's !!

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    Man I know. It's gotten bad here. I unfortunately didn't notice them making this video. I'll probably re do it after they calm down and put it up. I've started doing mostly voice-overs lately to have better quality audio.

  • @PBS-nm1uu
    @PBS-nm1uu6 жыл бұрын

    please talk about the bow is this the new style??

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    This bow is the Hoyt Prevail. Looking back through the channel you can find a few videos reviewing this bow.

  • @potatostomatoes4599
    @potatostomatoes45996 жыл бұрын

    How do you do thag cool spin you did with the arrow at 7:50

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info?o=U&video_id=HWhh50Go0kw

  • @MojaveKY
    @MojaveKY8 жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see a view from above to see how you are lined up. Yes, I am not sure how you do that with the camera either.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    I can work on that. I can build something for it, or attach the camera to a tree limb even. Hadn't thought of that, but it would have been a great way to illustrate what I was talking about in this video.

  • @MojaveKY

    @MojaveKY

    8 жыл бұрын

    That is true. I guess a tree branch may work. It would certainly be interesting view

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    I've really wanted a drone with a camera haha I'd need someone that could fly it too, but I think it could be fun.

  • @MojaveKY

    @MojaveKY

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think that would provide some really interesting video. I have been toying with the idea of buying a camera capable of doing over 1000 fps and getting some cool slow mo of the arrows in flight and coming off the bow. Sony has a $600 camera that does 1000 fps

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    I've been looking at that same camera! I want to use it for shots of the arrow rest and also of the cams to look at how they're moving on bows with high tears that won't go away vs. bows that shoot perfect bullet holes. There's lots of nerdy uses for it on bows haha

  • @johnhull239
    @johnhull2395 жыл бұрын

    What causes right handed Archer to push shot to the right?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you're right handed then it's most likely you're pulling with the release arm too hard and pulling yourself off target or you're collapsing and being drawn right. You could also have a closed stance and the shoulders are aligning with the hips and causing you to rotate to the right.

  • @johnhull239

    @johnhull239

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rcrchery thank you, will get it fixed.

  • @johnhull239

    @johnhull239

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could this be caused by too long or short draw length? Like your site. Thanks again.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    5 жыл бұрын

    It could for sure. If it's too long on DL you'll collapse from not being able to hold back on the release as easily. If it's too short then you can collapse on the front shoulder and it'll creep up.

  • @johnhull239

    @johnhull239

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rcrchery thanks again. Appreciate your knowledge and assistance.

  • @horseshoeshandgrenades5384
    @horseshoeshandgrenades53848 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I am in the market for a new bow and I am curious in your opinion which arm is more important for strength/stability. Reason I ask is I had surgery on my left shoulder in 2014. I still have some issues with it. I can shoot either hand I am left eye dominant but naturally right handed. I would go with a left handed bow but I feel I would have issues with the draw arm being the one I had surgery on it being the arm needed to draw the bow, especially the poundage I want to shoot. Thank you for your time

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    More stability in the bow arm is best. But, you'll have to be able to draw the weight. Depending on the injury, the muscles used and how the joint works, it could be better to have the injured side holding the bow or drawing the bow. The best way to know for sure is to contact the Dr. that did the surgery and talk things through with them. Let them know the motions involved in each side depending on the handedness of the bow and let them help you decide which would be a better choice.

  • @horseshoeshandgrenades5384

    @horseshoeshandgrenades5384

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the reply. Ill have to look at a few more things before I make my mind up. Thank you

  • @JosephSmith66
    @JosephSmith664 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure you have great information to share, but the background noise triggers my tinnitus. Cicadas I presume?

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it is. I've gone to a lav mic since this and it's helped a lot.

  • @jasonnester9514
    @jasonnester95145 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t find u Instagram

  • @danielwellborn5144
    @danielwellborn51446 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that would have been a good video, but I simply couldn't deal with the background noise

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    6 жыл бұрын

    Watch this video instead: kzread.info?o=U&video_id=bupCwFEftQY

  • @smithleon
    @smithleon8 жыл бұрын

    This looks like a useful video but the bird and insect(?) noise in the background is TERRIBLE! Can't bare it any longer.

  • @rcrchery

    @rcrchery

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yea, definitely sorry about that. The mic picked it up way more than I'd imagined. I'll probably end up re-recording this one at some point. I've been doing voice overs on some lately too to help out with this.