I have a Pelagos 39 on my wrist right now - funded by selling about 20 watches - and I love it. I’ve worn it everyday since I bought it except when I’m gardening when I’ve stuck by CWC G10 on. Hate to be that guy, but the lug width is 21mm!

As with so many things, you reach a point of diminishing returns. And with respect to all of the traditional watchmakers, they are overpriced for what they offer IMHO.

@armandr1613

11 ай бұрын

I agree though keep in mind we could all just use our cellphone to tell the time.

@borassictime918

11 ай бұрын

And that’s before you consider the no doubt eye-watering cost of servicing Tudor in-house movements that will also require your Pelagos to be sent off to Tudor (away for many weeks) before it returns. With an NH35 or NH38 you can get a complete replacement movement for $40 or less. And as an aside tbh it does not impress me in the slightest that the Tudor name was patented a century ago and its first diver watch was made in the 1950s, any more than I care if SM has only been around for 5 years. So what? A watch should stand on its own merits and not depend on some artsy-fartsy “narrative” (aka bs) designed to inflate the SRP above what any sane human being would pay for a lump of titanium that tells the time less accurately than your smartphone. Titanium sponge is

@kobusvanrensburg4092

11 ай бұрын

@@borassictime918 preach!

@kbarnbrook4993

11 ай бұрын

​@Borassic Time I would stick with an Apple smart watch if I were you, there is a reason why NH35 movements are cheap, they tend to be rubbish.

@kobusvanrensburg4092

11 ай бұрын

@@kbarnbrook4993 definitely more accurate 👍 But many of us are grown men. If you dislike the NH35 you are shit out of luck on this channel mate.

Jody is seriously the most practical and TRUE watch enthusiast that makes content on youtube. I seriously love u man, I've gained so much knowledge on where sensible value lies in this crazy watch world. The mental gymnastics behind brand heritage, movements, and swiss manufacturing are properly put in the backseat on this channel behind what true enthusiasts love the most. And I deeply appreciate it. Not the only down to earth watch channel i know, but your entertainment and consistency puts you above all imho.

@richardb22

11 ай бұрын

And the best watch was ..........( drum roll)............The Tudor Pelagos That's the one with brand heritage , the best movement and made in Switzerland .

@Megatraum504

11 ай бұрын

@@richardb22 had trash lume lol. 6k for shit lume.

@Megatraum504

11 ай бұрын

@@richardb22 i have replicas that look better than that 6k tudor. And have better lume. Only morons who wanna burn money to impress people care about heritage. I'll take the 96% functioning look alikes all day and not waste 6k. I'll never have to worry about such a silly decision anyway lol.

@calebcourteau

11 ай бұрын

100% agree. There are some great watch channels on youtube but Jody is the most practical and entertaining. I think I fell in love with his channel when I learned how much he likes the cheap and cheerful Casio watches.

@Justme0495

11 ай бұрын

​@@richardb22 considering the price it'll better be!

Great Review. Thanks a lot. We and San Martin will release Titanium version end of this week. And Dive Bezel GMT version is producing too.

@ryansmith5531

11 ай бұрын

Add some red writing on the dial please!

@sinjinadams2862

11 ай бұрын

@Watchdives Will you be making an homage of the new Rolex Titanium Yacht Master? I would buy it!

@thinkharder64

11 ай бұрын

Great news. I for one appreciate the 42 Pelagos features being incorporated into the 39 case with date! Thanks for a great collaboration.

@NCSheriff7

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@sinjinadams2862homage😂 come on buddy its a copy just without branding name. Homage is something like watches from Lorier

@sinjinadams2862

2 ай бұрын

NCSheriff7 Oh I know and that's exactly what I want! I know that's not for you and that's ok.

Bought the San Martin in Blue with a Date. Couldn’t be happier. And I’m not even a huge fan of blue watches. Great head to head to head as always!

@scottlauren3145

11 ай бұрын

Me too just with no date. Got it for $208 out the door including free shipping and it arrived in 4 days. I love it.

Like the fact you synchronize the comparisons . Great bud as always

The Tudor is absolutely beautiful. If I ever came into a windfall, I'd pick it up immediately. Just so tool-y.

I got the San Martin in both Black and Blue and did some side by sides with the other SM BB58 models. Gotta say I love it and think they did a whole lot of right with it, including hitting a great price point for this kind of quality.

I’ve had the Octopus Kraken in blue for a month now. Absolutely love it. Dial and bezel are matte (which I prefer). Super slim at 11.7mm and exactly 39mm across the bezel. One important thing is the bracelet matches the original (even staggered links opposed to the oyster style with offset staggered links). First time with a PT5000 moment which over a month has averaged -3 seconds a day. I wear it 24hours a day and I’m rough on watches as a furniture maker and forestry worker here in Japan. Best of the 20 or so Ali watches I’ve bought over the past couple of years.

@BosworthMcG

11 ай бұрын

Get to family mart and get yoself a strong zero !!

@XjohnjohnX88

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I heard a lot of good things about the Octopus Kraken. I wish I could have seen it in this comparison.

The San Martin is 39mm not 40mm. It's a very clever clomage (collage) of three Tudor watches to produce the 39mm Pelagos that I wanted, a smaller and more versatile version of the clunky 42mm toolwatch with a much nicer blue colouration. You could say a true update of the last Tudor sub discontinued in the 90s rather than the blinged up luxury watch Tudor have given us. Titanium made sense for the 42mm because it's a chunky watch that weighs around the 150g sweet spot. Not necessary for the 39mm and quite a surprising choice because, for a dress diver, being easily scratched up is quite unappealing.

Great video, thank you. You have the most detailed comparison on KZread. I will be waiting to watch all such comparisons of cool watches

Thanks for a great vid Jody. Just ordered the Seestern.

I had the Seestern Titanium with the Seiko movement. What's interesting about it is the caseback: On the Tudor it's made of stainless steel, but on the Seestern it's fully made of titanium!

@ssnerd583

11 ай бұрын

Some have a titanium allergy that you wont get with the SS on the Tudor

@flyke7428

11 ай бұрын

@@ssnerd583 Titanium allergy? Titanium is widely used in medicine. I have 16 titanium brackets in my body for example. This doesn't make sense to me, because the bracelet and clasp is also made of titanium and touch the wrist.

@DarrenBates

11 ай бұрын

Would've been nice if they used that extra bit of titanium on a proper diver's clasp instead!

@darcos7535

11 ай бұрын

​@@ssnerd583um, the bracelet is titanium too, so using SS must have been for another reason

@Visitor555

11 ай бұрын

​@@ssnerd583 😂 Titanium is EVEN for people who get allergy from stainless steel Wtf u talking man. Titanium is anti allergic material.

For the price out of the 3 I would take the Seestern. 6k is better spent elsewhere even though I like the Tudor.

Thanks for making your background brighter. Some videos it is hard making out the titles of the books.

I helped myself to an Octopus Kraken. The dial text is cleaner than the seestern and I think it would be in woyh a good chance of King of the homages 🙂

@pompeylad1977

4 ай бұрын

I’m really interested in the Kraken, £240 on Amazon, that’s incredible, I may well get one.

@DancingMalik

4 ай бұрын

​@@pompeylad1977 Do it! It's a kraken watch for the money 😅👌🏽

I have the Seestern in blue which has a fantastic colour, I also have the Octopus Kracken version in black which is definitely a better watch with great bezel action and the bracelet is closer to the Tudor. Clasp is also better. If you want the best homage to the Pelagos 39 definitely go with the Octopus Kracken.

@Ian-dd5dm

11 ай бұрын

I prefer the branding on the Octopus. Do you happen to know who makes them or are they out the same factory you think?

@Raggamuffin010

11 ай бұрын

Imagine there are a couple of factories and the brands ask for better finishing and pay a bit more.

@danspanos

11 ай бұрын

@@Ian-dd5dm Octopus and Baltany are the same company, while Seestern and Sugess are the same. I have the Octopus in black, and went for the Seestern in blue. I concur that Octopus is a MUCH better watch by far, but that Seestern blue color is something special. I wear the black Octopus as my daily driver. They both need a better clasp.

@Ian-dd5dm

11 ай бұрын

@@danspanos Thank you...

I can’t believe how good that Seestern is for a tiny fraction of the Pelagos and it’s titanium and sapphire crystal etc, to pay thousands more for the Tudor when you get virtually the same watch would be madness surely.

IMO, the San Martin is what the Pelagos 39 always should have been. A shrunken Pelagos...that's pretty much it. No messy starburst bezel...no basic 200m WR...keeps the lovely cutout chapter ring...less billboarding on the dial. A cleaner presentation, altogether. Not a perfect match to the Tudor, perhaps, but to my sensibilities, better than what Tudor actually did.

@nickberetanos7541

8 ай бұрын

For money...tough to argue. Would have been interesting in a Titanium option.

@tariktaskin8289

7 ай бұрын

@@nickberetanos7541there is a titanium option now for only about 40$ extra

@goodwolf152

7 ай бұрын

@@nickberetanos7541 FYI - they have this in Ti now, in case you haven’t looked recently.

@Harudes

5 ай бұрын

San Martin actually does have a Titanium version now.

Eventhough San Martin did not get a 1:1 copy, it looks nice in the blue matte colorway, not into titanium as well, it is sold out, but knowing them, it is not limited, they will restock…

Just ordered the Seestern with NH movement. Thx 4 the review. Get going 🚀

I have the SS San Martin in blue no date and love it, it even came properly regulated and is running well within COSC specs at +4 per 24hr it was a bargain at £170 delivered to uk, no import or VAT scam added. I was so impressed with it that I have ordered the Ti version, this time in black, yes date. Great review as always, thumbs up, cheerio fer noo :-)

Great format. Enjoyed the video

Great review as always. I like all 3 of the watches & would probably go for the Seestern. Thanks again.

Every time I consider a Pelagos, I remember I have a no-date RZE Endeavour in my watch box. That is the king of affordable titanium divers!

@michaelredding6219

11 ай бұрын

I was ogling one the other day; very nice!

Those group shots really show how much the hex logo of San Martin does throw off the visual balance of a dial..

You're still the master at finding these cheap but actually well made homages. Correction though, the Tudor is 21 mm which is a bit irritating but this gives the San Martin and Seestern a slight advantage at 20 mm. I have the Tudor and it's fast coming one of favorites in my collection. I'd recommend looking at the used market where they're now dropping below 5k.

Got the blue San Martin and love it. Looks better than the Seestern (or the original for that matter). Tempted to get the black version from San Martin!

I bought the ST2130, and the clasp! Will be upgraded as soon as I can find a nice titanium one... So different from a Subby homage. Thanks Jody, good comparison again.

Jodie, love these sorts of videos. But a small suggestion in terms of format. If someone has anywhere near the amount of coin required to buy the actual Pelagos, they obviously will given what a great watch it is. So ultimately these types of reviews are really about the other two watches for us "Beer budget but champagne taste" folks. So the winner here is really the Seestern given the Tudor is little more than the measuring stick the two options are judged by. Interesting too that the Tudor with its inhouse movement only gets 70 hours of reserve while my $550 Tissot PRX gets 80 hours. And yes, I love my PRX.

Really interesting comparison.San Martin and Seestern both really seem to be offering great budget watches. Would have been nice to have seen these on the timegraper, particularly for a comparison on the Seiko movements.

@BaddaBigBoom

5 ай бұрын

Well my San Martin arrived running at +4 sec per 24h if that's anything to go by.

The P39 is 21mm lug width! You can clearly see the other two are 20mm when in your side by side shot. Schoolboy error Jody. It’s a massive reason why it looks so good IMO.

Very witty with the reviews which i appreciate,too many people are way so serious in there reviews,jody shows the rest that it can be witty but serious when needed with spot on reviews..cheers jody

I always go for the 2130 or PT5000 when I can over the NH35. The sweep is so much nicer and I have more fun serving those movements over the seikos

The Tudor P39 has 21mm lug width.

I got my San Martin Blue titanium yesterday. I have the Pelagos 42 and love it so I’m not about to get the 39 so i figured I try the Saint Martin. I AM BLOWN AWAY! Seriously I could not be happier with this watch. You can support the purchase all the way from the “value” conversation to the “horological” one. Yes it’s Chinese, yes it’s a homage and yes it does have a place in the present culture, as much as we “puritans” tend to not like. This watch is a total success and can have a space in most watch lovers from many angles. Well done Saint Martin.

@OswaldoLafee

3 ай бұрын

And by the way, I do think it does know what it wants to be: a blue pelagos 40 whiz still doesn’t exist. So brilliant.

Great reviews as usual. I think my next watch purchase will be the Seestern! 3:48

That SM is 'homage' done right. Ive had the gents Pelagos in black for a few years now (never handled the new 39mm ladies version 😊) - the watch is amazing and the clasp is genius, but you may as well make a watch out of play doh as uncoated tiranium - it marks if you give it a funny look; steel is SO much better. The SM is basically a 40mm gents Pelagos in steel and the watch tudor should have made.

@altbinhax

11 ай бұрын

How you can build an expensive tool watch and not finish the titanium for scratch resistance just seems silly. SM are great value for money and finished better than the price point.

@villewintermaul1907

8 ай бұрын

Lol you are an absolute fool if you think 39mm Is for ladies😂😂😂

The Seestern is pretty cool. Great video. Thanks for being so realistic and open to even such affordable homages.

@luistrigo7561

8 ай бұрын

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@luistrigo7561

8 ай бұрын

😊 1:51

@luistrigo7561

8 ай бұрын

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@luistrigo7561

8 ай бұрын

1:51 1:51 1:51 1:51 😊 1:51 1:51 1:51

@luistrigo7561

8 ай бұрын

1:51 1:51 1:51 1:51

the seestern red text does make it look real good 🔥

I picked up the San Martin and I love the stepped dial. Much more visually appealing and the finishing is amazing…so what if it’s steel.

@Megatraum504

11 ай бұрын

i prefer the steel honestly. If u just want the look and not trying to fool people, its a no brainer.

@MRFUCKOFF202

11 ай бұрын

The lack of the 3D dial is what ruined the P39 for me

Great review of a fabulous watch. The blue looks good, but seeing as Tudor don’t a blue 39, as yet, I’d stick to the black with the radial dial and bezel insert. I have tried on the Pelagos 39 and it’s perfect for me and this looks like it’s close to the quality. Also I’ve heard that the PT5000 movement is ultra accurate. I just need to flog my SK007…..yep, I know, sacrilege, right? Well, I think I can live with it, because this looks ideal as a one watch collection.

This might going to be the most watched video this year - I think. Very good comparison Jody as always. BUT - where is the bezel action?

Seestern should keep their amazing case back with the "Great Wave off Kanagawa" on all their watches. I know it's more of a Seiko thing, but it's just so beautiful. Same with the signed crown and clasp, please bring back the sea star! Major turn off to see the pin between the bracelet links (13:25). I will wait for version V2 or V3. I also agree with everything said about the writing on the dial.

Great review. Looking at a homage of the Pelagos to replace my now broken Christopher Ward Trident Pro. Either the Seestern or Octopus for me. As for the bracelet these look so much better on a rubber strap.

I wish Tudor would make a 39 with date and with the bezel insert (like it's big brother). For now the San Martin seems to tick a lot of those boxes.

My night is infinitely better when that JOMW noti slaps right before going to bed 🔥

After looking at the Tudor Pelagos, I recently, purchased the San Martin (in blue) as well as the Octopus Oct-10. Very quickly, I put the San Martin in the corner with it's nose facing the wall, lol. I must say, I'm absolutely stunned at the Octopus... the dimensions are exactly the same as the Tudor with one exception... thanks to it's PT5000 movement, it cones in at 11.6 mm thick, which makes it wear even slimmer than the Pelagos. Additionally, the bracelet links are EXACTLY the same as the Pelagos, both shorter and fatter than the San Martin (and fully articulating as well) . And as shown in this video, the lume is at least as bright as the Seestern, meaning better than the Pelagos. The only real difference, apart from the brand, is the movement (which I have no problem with), and Tudor's excellent T-Fit adjustable clasp. I imagine it won't be long before they 'clone' the clasp as well. But for now, color me extremely happy.... I got both these watches for about 10% of what I would have paid for the Tudor, and I won't cry crocodile tears if I scrape it or drop them!

@TombstoneTube

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. Does the Octopus come is titanium? Is it an Aliexpress watch? Thanks

@daynevickers1079

4 ай бұрын

Yes, the Octopus only comes in Titanium. I must say, after wearing it, I find it hard to wear any of my heavy stainless steel watches, as they feel so heavy on the wrist compared to the Octo. @@TombstoneTube

I just bought the tactical frog fxd and I absolutely love it

Jodi love your insight and look to your video when considering a new watch, but I feel like you where kinda a little harsh w the Seestern and San Martin. This video di ld help me push more toward the Seestern. I was on the fence w both. Thank you, keep up the great work!!

I own the san Martin in black, I loved that it is still (ever so slightly) it’s own thing and not a 1 for 1 copy. That being said I’ll bet the seestern looks amazing on an after market nato or rubber strap

Glad to see this, I've been eyeing up one of the homages for the last while. I might just have to go for it. You're a bad influence though Jody, your video a few days ago gave me the push and now I'm waiting for my San Martin GMT to arrive...

@williamwallace9427

11 ай бұрын

Ugh.. Chinese knock offs.

The best thing about these Ali Express watches is if you want to try a watch in Titanium or Bronze (i have a San Martin in bronze) you could try them out for under $300.

I have the San Martin version and I love it! Combines the more interesting dial of the bigger Pelagos and the slimmer and smaller case size of the new one. I like titanium watches but I prefer stainless steel so it's a win win. Also available in date or no date, I think San Martin x Watchdives knocked it out of the park. Great video, thanks Jody!

@IslandPicturesFilmTV

11 ай бұрын

Same here. Agreed.

@BaddaBigBoom

5 ай бұрын

I totally get that. I have the blue SS no date version and I love how the indices cut into that second sloped chapter ring. I'm now addicted to that dial design and go 'euch' to deep, bare steel chapter rings. I now have the Ti version on order in black with date window at the 3 position, they also do it with a 6 position date window.

Just received my sm watchdives 39mm pelag matte black 🙏. I don’t know in blue but in black it’s THE BEST SM AMONG MY 10. Beauty and luxury feeling and matte black is awesome. Titanium is great in grade 5 but grade 2 like seestern is a nightmare after 6 monthes = scratch collector.

@spikefcast1892

11 ай бұрын

Those Recessed indices on the dial are killing me ❤❤❤. And no mismatch COLOR with black dial and bezel

Octopus 🐙 makes a brilliant one as well. If you’re looking for one be sure you look at this titanium pelagos homage as well.

Lol! Photocopiers are here! Awesome! Thanks for the phrase and the reviews!

San Martin will probably come in Titanium before the end of the year. For now i settled for the blue one. The adjustable new clasp is a great upgrade.

@karlsenula9495

11 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts which is why it is in my cart but not purchased on this sale.

@philiphenderson1518

11 ай бұрын

Ive read a response from San Martin that they won’t be doing it in Titanium as they feel the teeth on the bezel won’t work with titanium, which seems odd considering Octopus and Seestern made it work.

Have had a watch in grade 2 titanium and - never again. Have a grade 5 San Martin watch and it is great.

When I started watching your channel I had 3 watches. A year later and I have 59 and counting. Cheers!!!

@sinjinadams2862

11 ай бұрын

@J T Wow! You sound exactly like me! It took me a little longer at around 2 1/2 years but I'm pushing 50 watches now. Do you think there is any hope for us?! Will we ever stop?! 😊😊

Some of us prefer stainless steel to Titanium, I prefer the weight and being able to simply brush out minor scratches.

Jody great video.. quick content suggestion. I’ve seen a couple Japanese micro brand lists. I am beginning to realize most KZread content is a qvc commercial for Chinese watches when there are heaps of others from other countries. Any chance you might utilize some of your horological excellence in covering micro brands from Japan?

I've got a Seastern coming & chose the Seiko movement, for your reference. With a smaller wrist, I actually prefer the lighter watch & the smaller clasp. I do live near a beach but like most people, even if I wear a wetsuit when swimming, I don't need to wear a dive watch over it, so a divers extension is just something else to go wrong & adds weight. Great comparison by the way. Thanks.

@gerryf2113

10 ай бұрын

Anyone who's serious about diving would never wear a bracelet-type strap on a watch. I count myself among the above and I would only ever use a Velcro or NATO strap on a watch I was actually using when diving. That way, the strap would be looped through both spring bars and so when the inevitable spring bar failure happened, you wouldn't be waving goodbye to a critical piece of equipment, you were using to time your decompression stops. but I am sure there will be a plethora of desk divers telling me I'm talking BS, but I'm just talking from my experience - and any serious divers I've ever known.

Maybe San Martin did these things/differences to be an homage in the truest definition of the term and not merely a clone? After all the feeling that I have seen in forums and comments threads is that San Martin is trying to take the next step up. Just something to consider.

I gotta be honest... the first luxury piece I bought in recent times was the Black Bay GMT. It was about half the price, its size of 41mm suits me perfectly, it is dead accurate and has the GMT complication I use on the daily. I find it hard to understand the appeal of the Pelagos as mine has the same water resistance rating. And who is actually diving with these? Just my opinion for all it's worth! Of course, it is stainless and not titanium but whatever... Cheers all!

@Nutmegger1989

11 ай бұрын

BB gmt is so thick

I am currently wearing the Seestern with the seagull movement. It’s been fantastic so far. The crown gave me a bit of a headache at first, really have to make sure it’s properly screwed down. I love the 3D printed indices and the lume is amazing. I simply cannot be bothered by pedigree and “history” when I’d never be able to afford a watch like the Tudor. The homage watches will just keep getting better. Too bad you didn’t include the Octopus Kraken Pelagos in this battle.

@prodigy_music5541

5 ай бұрын

how's the accuracy?

“seestern was founded last tuesday…”- your scottish humour is showing laddie…great review as always

This was a great comparison! One dimension no one ever talks about though is the dial openings. I would love to see you start to include that in your reviews. That is the biggest indicator on how big or small a watch wears next to lug to lug.

Thanks for the review. It would be nice if you could do a similar one for the Tudor BB GMT with the San Martin homage and another one.

I could see San Martin coming out with a V2 in grade five Titanium much as they have done with another of their watches.

I respect the San Martin a lot more for not being a 1:1 copy. You know it's not a rebadged fake, whereas you can't know the same about the Seastern.

Hi Jody , a great head to head, I have to say I love both of my Seestern's. Will take a hard look at this if they do make a mark 2, with your recommendations. I notice I getting more adverts in your latest videos

@thadeusbaggins9967

11 ай бұрын

Agree with your comments regarding a potential V2 of the Seestern. In my opinion, Seestern is offering a lot more value for money than San Martin these days. I picked up the Sub600t homage a couple months ago and it's phenomenal.

@captbumbler5356

11 ай бұрын

@@thadeusbaggins9967 I have a Sub600T as well great watch. my only problem with these 3 watches I don't like snowflake hands LOL

It's the Pelagos for me, it's worth the extra cost, for that crisp clear dial and the matte bezel, it's truely a stunning looking watch 👍 Au

my San Martin retro homage of the black bay or old rolex diver, is my daily and maybe favorite watch

I bought the SM as I always liked the look of the first Pelagos but never considered it because of it's dimensions. (and it's cost)

After your review, my favorite of homage is the Seestern

Really appreciate this comparison. I tried on a Pelagos 39 about 6 months ago and wasn't completely smitten with it to be pressured into the sale. I recently bought a photocopy from Watchdives under the Octopus brand. It looks almost identical to the Seestern piece except it has a PT5000 movement which I've tested to be as accurate as promised. So far, I love it - it's light and easy to wear daily. The clasp as you point out is probably the biggest flaw but I can live with it for the money. I feel like I no longer need to drop over £3k on another Tudor! Or maybe I will...

That san martin is just perfect😮

Morning jody, very interesting, still can't get my head around homages, that said the seastern is feckin close!

@daleyfamily2179

11 ай бұрын

Yeah these are not homage. Homage means to take inspiration from. Seestern flat-out copies a name brand and slaps their name on it. Look what they do with Doxa. They skirt the line of counterfeit for sure.

I bought the Seestern with the Seagull 2130, the Chinese ETA 2824 clones are generally *very* good, and only occasionally need a little bit of regulation to get them performing plus or minus 5-6 seconds a day which is almost impossible for the Seiko movements. I generally find that the Chinese movements perform far better for the money than even the Swiss 2824 movements, the Sellita SW200's in my Steinhart watches are generally +10 seconds a day give or take a bit, where as the Chinese clones can get to 5-6 with some minor regulation. ( And often, perform far better than that ) Plus, if I really like a watch, I can have the movement easily replaced with a Chronometer grade Swiss 2824 clone, likely from Sellita or Soprod

Jody - a little bit too critical on the SM/WD blue Pelogos IMHO :)

Really hoping you'll do a comparison of the Orient Mako Chronograph and the Glycine Combat Chrono. Really like the idea of a diving chronograph for its everyday robustness, plus I can't afford a daytona...

The octopus kraken version is definitely the best Pelagos homage available

I'm glad San Martin made this watch in S/S, I like the look of titanium but don't like the weight and feel. It also means that the money is spent on the overall quality rather than material. The San Martin would be my choice although the lume lets it down.

Jody thank you for such a thorough and interesting head-to-head review! Both the San Martin and Seestern are great homages to the Tudor Pelagos 39. If I had the money I would choose the Tudor but for a homage the Seestern is the better watch.

That blue-dial San Martin looks wicked.

I was surprised that Tudor uses Grade 2 Titanium as it is quite prone to scratches and less easily fixed…. ask me how I know! I have since ordered the new Squale Master X Palombari Del Comsubin in Grade 5 Titanium, which comes in at a third of the price of the Pelagos (as it does not have a bracelet). It is limited to 420 pieces worldwide, though. I look forward to comparing the Pelly and Squale side-by-side. Thanks for a great review, Jody.

I’m happy SM went SS. I don’t like titanium because I don’t like the scratches it incurs. Love the size of the SM too. SM for me all day

The perceived quality on the Seestern is really let down by the shoddy edges & finishing, endlinks and clasp. If only San Martin would make a faithful copy... Bit of a missed opportunity to include the Octopus Kraken homage, which overall is probably the best homage on the market at the moment.

Great video, but it's you missed the bezel test comparisons it's very important.

Ixdao tudor homage quality its even more defined than san martin...it'll be cool to see a comparison of both them too

I think it is Tudor who did not did his homework. If this is a Pelagos, it should look like a Pelagos, including the date. So, San Martin did what Tudor did not. They did a 40mm version of the original 42mm Pelagos, but cut costs using SS. The San Martin would have been perfect if they had added the date complication of the original Pelagos.

I own the pelagos 39 and absolutely love it. Had to buy a half link from uncle straps to get a good fit tho. The homage watches aren’t anywhere near the Pelagos. The indices are to small and the lume on the seconds hand is pushed out to far on them too. Also, I didn’t realize how weird they’d look with 20mm lugs but it just looks off.

I see this a bit differently I love the metal bits off the Tudor but dislike the dial and bezel and it’s missing the date. The San Martin is basically the watch I wanted Tudor to make apart from the stainless steel but they didn’t, I don’t mind calling this a homage. And then there is the seastearn which is a copy of the baby pelogos. I actually want to but a titanium version of the San Martin in black with date unless they do something silly to ruin it.

You get since Mounth, the SM even in Titanium ...about 300 Euro, for that Price its a very Good Watch ...

Had the Seestern just the same clasp as the San Martin and it would be a solid package.

My Seestern GMT pro homage has the best lume in my collection! So looks like Seestern is the new Ali lume king!!

I went with the NH38 movement in the Seestern and it runs +2s/d. The bezel is misaligned though and the lack of micro adjust on the clasp is criminal but I love it, it didn't leave my wrist for two while weeks and I constantly flip-flop between wanting to buy the real-deal Tudor and not wanting to spend $6.5k on a three hand 200m diver...

@propblast82nd

11 ай бұрын

I wonder if they regulate their movements sometimes because my actual Seiko watches never run that accurate ?

@JohnSmith-jj2yd

11 ай бұрын

@@propblast82nd it's my first Chinese watch, so not sure. Although interestingly at the same time I bought a new King Seiko SPB369, and that runs +0.5s/d, it is crazy. Every other 6R and 4R I've owned has run abysmally slow (-10 to -20 s/d)

I would like to get a Pelagos GMT version . San Martin does one and it looks nice but 39mm just looks too small on my wrist and is way too small for my aging eyes. Would love a 42 or 41:at the smallest. Not worried whether it's Ti or Steel

With the way San Martin Makes their watch which is top notch quality, I think it would benefit them if they also do third party bracelets for seiko and other brands just like what strapcode is doing.