The fact that Derail valley has more accurate coupling/air brakes than this is sad

@cruzin8056

2 жыл бұрын

Derail valley is just better in general lmao, plus its more fun

@tuberoyful

2 жыл бұрын

TSW2 has way more modern tracks switches and more accurate and advance controls then Dv:\

@FM60260

2 жыл бұрын

UK brake simulation in TSW is a lot more accurate from what I have experienced especially with vacuum

@Austin.D

2 жыл бұрын

@@cruzin8056 I disagree but whatever to each their own

@DarkSlayer010

Жыл бұрын

Excessive speeding in the rail yard. I love it.

The independent brake needs cutting in via the MU-2A valve. In this game always assume NOTHING is set up and do a full check of everything before you set off

@rossgilbert5890

2 жыл бұрын

Also no PTC on sand patch grade unfortunately. The PCS does work however you need to turn the "safety devices" switch on in the cabinet. Any safety system in this game is off by default so new players aren't just sitting there wondering why their train won't move

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

... interesting

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Who cuts out an independent? ...weird..

@BeezyKing99

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hyce777 engineers who think the train's gonna be parked idling for hours on end with no use (just assuming at this point honestly) for possibly a few days, I know in my area the locomotives can be parked for 5 days, *STILL* chugging away heartily.

@rossgilbert5890

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hyce777 Everything tends to be cut out as if it's a trailing unit. Makes it easier when multiple locos spawn coupled together they don't all try to have control over the brakes

"Oh its CSX, why isn't is derailed, isn't that required?" Best line ever Hyce LOL. The 38-3 is a CSX only modification, the -2 is still the "newest"...like 70 years old newest, setup LOL.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

-3's are also a BNSF mod... and with the ridiculous control system that's in them, they're definitely a new beast... lol

You need to cut in the mu2a valve for the independent (it's tucked down around the corner under the independent stand) its a common problem because the game never tells you how to do it

@yrntaffeta7004

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I like the ES44AC

@williamgrantham2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@yrntaffeta7004 personally I prefer sd40 only because it's analogue instead of electronic and more akin to what I operate at work

@yrntaffeta7004

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgrantham2463 I would like to run a train but I'm currently to young and I like the fast af intermodal trains

@williamgrantham2463

2 жыл бұрын

@@yrntaffeta7004 I work for the railway in nsw Australia and have to slug up a 3% mainline grade every other shift, and the others are out in the rolling hills of 2-2.5% so I only every see decent speed downhill

I don't think any game has really accurately represented the way EMDs throttle up and its always been the main disappointment for me with train sims because I love that noise so much. The second you move that lever in real life, that engine speeds up quickly and DRAMATICALLY, revs a tiny bit past where its set to, and then settles down to a constant speed as you hear the load increase and see the exhaust smoke thicken. One of the best sounds known to man is a roots blown EMD throttling up. If one cant appreciate this sound, theres something wrong with them mentally 😂 A minute and a half into this video below is exactly what im talking about; You might appreciate this one, Hyce. Reminds me of a big old GM v8 like in your GTO. My favorite video for EMD sounds. An old high hood GP-9 being worked hard kicking cars in the yard, filmed from above so you can really hear that exhaust. I watch this at least once a month 😂 kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4Vho5qbnNmqnLg.html

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

gotta love it :D

Unfortunately the sand patch scenarios are not the best - in that last one, the MU2A valve had to be set, and you had to set the switches yourself. I suggest trying out the Clinchfield Railroad route, as it gives you access to EMD F-7 A and B units, high tonnage and steep grades. It is quite fun when you get the hang of it. One thing I realised is that this game needs patience and you need to check almost everything yourself. The independent brakes do usually always work, by the way, I just believe some tutorial scenarios are broken.

@SternLX

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, the Tutorials on Sand Patch are wonky. All kinds of training wheels. Been enjoying the Horse Shoe DLC a lot lately.

another title idea for this video "railroader plays train sim and gets annoyed"

Introducing Train Sim World 2!: Now featuring fancy brand new magic air brakes and magic auto-connecting air hoses!!! (disclaimer: the independent brakes don't work and some other magic brake is always on, we're not quite sure what it is)

@TheBeeMan1994

2 жыл бұрын

Independent works he just forgot to cut them in

@someguy564

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what other commenters were saying, It would make more sense if they put that into the tutorial

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeeMan1994 he would know coz he is engineer it is just bad train sim tecnology

Glad you checked this game out! I do quite a lot of modding for it (mainly the British content) The route your checking out is actually the first route ever released so its pretty old and as you've seen lacking. The newer routes fare much better in comparison. If your looking for a challenge id really recommend the Sherman Hill route as long as you don't mind waiting 10 minutes for the brakes to release!

@LouisMcNabb

2 жыл бұрын

I think Hyce would also like the clinchfield railroad route as well

Some additional Tips the game doesn't reveal in the Tutorials or Key Bindings. 1) You can make extensive use of the 9 Key to make aligning switches a lot easier since it shows you the path in Light Blue that you need to run on. Click on the Triangle Icon on the Map to change a switch. You can also press 8 and free fly to the switches to set them if you want. 2) You can switch between Cabs without leaving the Engineers seat using Ctrl + = or Ctrl + - on the Keyboard(not Keypad). 3) Also Ctrl + 0 will return you to the last used Engineers seat if you leave the loco. There is a distance limitation to that though, so don't wander too far if you want to quick travel back to the Cab. Edit: Oh and one last thing, that Roll away you had... 3 Step my friend, 3 step!! Or at least 2 Step it. lol

Let's hope some uncouth jabronie didnt leave a massive crap in the toilet. You read my mind. I was watching some other videos of this and thought "I wonder what Hyce would say about this." You did not disappoint. :)

One of my biggest pet peeves with sim tutorials is when they LOCK THE DAMN CONTROLS. Especially when you can't finish the tutorial because one of the controls is locked when it shouldn't be. You should try Run8 next

TSW2 is my favourite simulator! I was excited to watch this. Played this on Xbox One when I had GamePass, and shall purchase it soon. The independent works on the Xbox One version. My guess would be you didn't set up the MU-2A valve on the trailing unit, like a lot of others are saying. And the magic of the auto brake setting the handbrakes on the cars... I'll have to verify if it does that on the Xbox One version, because I don't recall it doing that. I used to do a lot of switching on it with the SD40-2 in the semi-'free play' scenario, like A LOT of switching- Love the video! I was secretly hoping you'd stumble upon TSW2, I'd love to see more videos on it!

"No one told you? You are a conductor, Harry!"- Rubeus Hagrid

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

that is canncelled movie so cant be mentioned now

@Niklas.K95

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdikboiCJ as soon as i find something J.K.Rowling did wrong (besides here woman superiority complex) i might

Watching you dunk on TSW2 was the funniest thing in a while. Regarding the end of the video, I knew this would happen, I did the exact same thing. I fought the brakes were correctly setup, and so I though the switches were...

Ah CSX "How Tomorrow Moves." Cuz it ain't getting there today.

My god your so entertaining. Your reactions are so funny and love watching your channel!

I've had a great time enjoying this video. Lots of laughs here... Keep it up. Cheers!

Hyce, I found you from DV. I love all your content. Long time RR fan. 49 Yr old got to me a volunteer brakeman position for BYCX. I love all the info you give.

CSX heavy haul was the foreground to Train Sim world. It was in my opinion the best game dovetail released. Then they did this

Hope you had fun at the museum!

this had me rolling! Would love to see more!

I love how you sound just so tired with this game, like just making fun of every little thing is just perfect lmao

I've sent your video to the preserved content team at DTG. Have a look at the newer routes, they're getting better on the realism in recent times. Not exactly like actual trains but much better from a game play perspective.

This makes me so happy that RRO and Derail Valley exist.

LOL, been playing the piss out of this while waiting for Spline update Edit: For what it's worth, the Horse Shoe Pass DLC has much more fleshed out Tutorials. The Sand Patch module is old as dirt and a carry over from TSW2020. Needs lots of TLC.

I love that the term by the man in the industry is choo choo

I did the same exact thing when pulling the cars out of the track. They not only set the automatic to cut out but all controls were set to trail so you have to turn the independent to lead 🤣 I had the whole thing roll away after I hooked in, because I got out to check the handbrake.

One tip is you can throw and view switch statuses in the map, I believe the default is num 9

It was fun watching you make fun of the sim, even though I had no idea what you were talking about for most of it. (maybe I should watch the diesel 101 video)

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

There were a few things that I was complaining about that didn't even make it into the 101 video (PCS aka Pressure Control Switch being one) but a lot is in there.

Not gonna lie you make me laugh. Subbing.

I have several hours in this game on PC and I never noticed the magic rolling stock hand brakes until I watched this video. I'll have to try that later.

i love this game i think the independent brakes being locked is a tutorial thing because ive tried a schedule (a non tutorial run) and the brakes work just fine but other than that its a pretty good game and even better may 31st will be releasing a steam locomotive dlc with a route called Spirit Of Steam Crewe-Liverpool Lime Street its pretty cool dlc by the looks of things

The valve has to be cut in via the PMD hot keys (buttons along bottom of dash screens) just as well as turning on banking comms (off by default, which remotely runs the rear units as if you're operating them) then doing the full set and release on both the train brake and the independent, at least in my case it makes sure everything releases since I don't roll with the AWS, because I'm always between the head locomotive and the trail locomotive (on the lead end when doing the shunting in yards)

@BeezyKing99

2 жыл бұрын

P.S. the EMD (aka Dash 8's) valves gotta be in freight for them to release (previous comment was posted when I was halfway through, this one is after watching to end) but yeah, welcome to the world of TSW2.... where EVERYTHING isn't incorporated into the tutorials (braking systems, air valves, which setting for the cut-ins, etc...) otherwise another awesome video Hyce!

7:32 Hey look it's the sad conductor's great grandson!

Going to be interesting to see how they implement the steam locomotives with the upcoming DLC. It looked like a stanier black 5 with the BR logo.

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

that is br dlc so it is only acurate if everything dosent work

You said they need to have had at least two divorces? Can you smell the diesel smoke and Kenosha from here? ((Mmmm paperwork and single malt). Pure gold

I was laughing my ass off when you made me realize Derail Valley has a more consistent tutorial.

Train sim world 2 does have a paint shop in game that's fairly easy to use. As interesting as this game can be sometimes with operations it'd be something to see what the modern day ES&D scheme is.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

I picked up on something along those lines... I'd be interested to try that.

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

how do u paint trains in a train driving sim that doesnt make sense

@aarondivel1752

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdikboiCJ it's part of the game called livery designer. It's pretty easy to use and there's tutorials on yt for certain liverys if you want a specific railroad. They've even done competitions for themed liverys. It's pretty cool.

2:20 not even gonna lie, i was playing Immersive Railroading on minecraft and thaats the FIRST thing i did when i spawned diesel locos: 1:toilets? no 2: modeled engine? yea

running with the door open cause we want bees..... that really got me. XD Also, would i be right in thinking you were less than "immersed"? you said "this is stupid" many times this video lol.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't quite there, lol.

Hey Hyce, this summer I might go to the Colorado Railroad Museum

I named my conductor Ms. Frizzle. Personally the Sand Grade Patch is my favorite. I love American diesels

You know what will be amazing is when they should add electric sparks on each track.

You can turn on derailing from a switch run through in the settings. It's off by default

It's when I see the actual professional play games that are suppose to simulate their jobs that I can clearly see that there is a big difference between gamers and actual professionals. Gamers will read up the rule of the game and try to follow them while the job professionals get confused because they see all of the flaws that the game made in comparison to the real deal. Reason I know being a train operator is a lot harder than what the game let's on, no matter how good I get at playing the game/simulator.

2:24 , can confirm, there is a chair right there. I have had PLENTY of naps there IRL as well.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Weird. Our BNSF units had little "jump seats" that folded down but never a full chair...

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

WOOOT u sleep while driving along

Oh dude what a finale lmao

There's gotta be a story behind the whole "we want bees" with the door open lol

At least they have the correct hillstart procedure in the tutorial… a couple notches ahead.

After this mess, you should try the Searchlight Simulations diesels for Train sim. Either the CP AC4400 or BNSF SD40-2. They're very well scripted and simulated.

It took me a while to figure out out too, but the Dovetail developers so Livestream at least twice a week, helping users figure all this out and answering questions. "Train Simulator" channel on KZread.

welcome to tsw2: where realism and accuracy was not a priority, but making money is

I've played this and it always says everything is set up but Everytime I load up it's never set, so open your map and check to points to make sure they are set for the like your susoosded to take, and check hand brakes of trailing locomotive and all that engine isolation switch is set to run, it's under the fuses, also the cabs have lights and you can turn them on if you zoom ok it's switch, they are on the roof, on Xbox you can press on left stick for a free cam

@SunnySelena420

2 жыл бұрын

But this game has mutpli routes with mutpli locomotives and they plan to add some British steam on the 27th

That switching session with the gps might be bugged. Make sure you have the trailing engine set to trailing and likewise with the lead because TSW loves making you do other people's jobs. The independents aren't working because the MU2A isn't cut in. And the engines do eventually load faster especially the dlc stuff.

The collectibles thing is weird. It is interesting to look for things along the route but most things tend to be far out of the job role of a driver like fixing the lights on the Tees Valley Line, I set up a custom scenario with the Metro-Cammel class 101 where I was just calling at each station to collect posters and lights just casually driving along with a box of fluorescent light bulbs in the cab.

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

u are the one he said think u know what u talking about coz u drive train sim but really u no nothing u never worked tees valley railroad so u never drove 101 with bulbs in the cab

If the brakes are stuck fiddle with the cutouts, either trail 26 or trail24 and 6 I dont know why , black magic now instead of fairy magic handle XD

This reminds me of those magnetic hoses you can put on Ho scale railcars. Only problem are the trip pins are magnetic you you can’t use a magnetic decoupler.

It’s a magic train! *insert polar express memes*

Train Sim looks a lot better with re-shaders like railworks enhancer and seems still be a better game as far as the game play goes depending on the DLC. But I don't run the real thing so that's why I'm here so I have some semblance of how the real deal runs. Run 8 is supposed to be the most realistic simulator regarding train operations if you ever want to give that one a try.

36:09 Wow, someone had a Western on the Manchester - Leeds route? That would be strange to see one on that route as it is so far out of their normal territory.

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

no br train on br track is normal they just are bad

@FM60260

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdikboiCJ The Westerns were based down on the Great Western region on London St Pancras - Penzance services. The only reason they don't appear on the express services layer of the West Cornwall Local DLC where they belonged is because it was set too late for them having featured 150s from the 1980s when Western region hydraulics were all withdrawn by the late 70s except Warship D818 "Glory" which was sat at Swindon until 1985 before it was scrapped.

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@FM60260 WRONG i looked it up and the loco 818 is PRESERVED so u WRONG

@FM60260

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdikboiCJ D818 is not preserved, however D832 "Onslaught" is currently carrying the identity of D818 "Glory"

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@FM60260 LMFAO why would br change the identity of engines to scrap engines that is nobody dose

It's real bad when OG MSTS had better gameplay than this...and that came out...what...2001? ...and Train Sim World 2 is CRAZY expensive for what it is! I am so glad I spent money on Railroads Online instead of this.

I had the same issue. You have to cut in the independent via a small switch on the back of the center console. There's no tutorial or mention of it in the game. I had to Google it to figure out why they wouldn't release

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

... what

@HimboJimbo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hyce777 Lol, yeah. If you're sitting in the engineer seat and you look just to the left of the independent lever on the edge of the console, there's a little switch that you have to click to "cut in" the independent. Unsure if that's the correct terminology

@max_archer

2 жыл бұрын

Even some of the newer scenarios have similar issues. I ran into an issue with one of the recent British routes a while back where I couldn't get the brakes on my train to release, and after 20 minutes of poking around I finally realized that the locomotive was set to vacuum brake mode while hooked up to air braked cars, and I don't think the tutorials ever mentioned the brake selector at all.

The people who modeled those locomotives look at the independent brake as doctors look at the appendix. They're no really sure why is there.

20:38 I can say that I wish that was the case for this Train Sim World 2 game but who knows it would be a thing if there would be a Train Sim World 3 if there are plans for a part 3 it bater have the conductor to ade in the yard switching jobs would be very nice and I would not stress on what I'm doing expashely when trying to cupuel up a cut of 15 or less cars to a train which is hard enufe

Motion blur, SPEED!!! I was absolutely flat lined through this whole video. I cannot stand the inaccuracies of this sim

Holy- I haven’t played this in a long time

Have you tried Diesel Railcar Simulator? A remarkably good one-man effort, which is supposed to be physics-led. Watch the axleboxes moving as you drive...

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't! I'll have to add that to the list.

More of this please!

Saluda , best wreck spot in the world, that's why NS abandoned it, over 4% grade medium freights with 17,600 hp on each end and sometimes in the middle also.

36:00 Hyce looked back because he smelled Kenosha lol

Hyce has PTSD from BNSF and playing this game only amplified it

Yes, this game needs a lot of polishing but for a console player (PS4 Pro) who likes trains, this is all I have. The devs are from the U.K. so have a limited knowledge of our railroads I guess.

Its a pretty good game imo, Especially for being the only proper train simulator on Consoles. Also, they need to do more American Content.

Hay Hyce watch the Sandpach grade it has a 2.1% inclime and a decent as well I should know because I stalled on a1.5% inclime and when I was going down grade with a coal drag I had the beacks hard on with no afaict at my first few times playing this game and make shore both cupuers are open when doing the switch jobs if one is open then it will cupue up, if both are closed they would act like buffers. And cupuers are very sensitive I should know because I crashed a few times at very low speed like 5 MPH. Also have to do the switching jobs as both engineer and the conductor and I found it very hard expashely with the cut of cars ahead, and I do find at reandem texter freaking out.

I’ve had this game for a while now. The 2020 version did not require you to insert the reverser key.

I'm loving all the snarky comments. The signals always bugged me, one of many annoyances in this game.

The entire time I’m watching the independent not work I’m like, CUT THEM IN! 🤣

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Who the hell cuts out an independent

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

it is cut in freight but the train sim didn't release

@TheBeeMan1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigdikboiCJ independent needs to be cut in, it’s down on the bottom of the control stand, it’s a 3 position valve, Lead or dead, Trail 6-26 or trail 24, has to be set in Lead or Dead as it’s typically set for trail 6-26

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeeMan1994 how is 6-26 and 24 different coz 24 is in 6-26

36:00 you must check how the switches are set (either on foot or by the map).

I ran into a problem where the train couldn't move until it's at notch 4 when the brake lever is at release position and slows down rapidly if you pull power at notch 3 or less. I think it's a bug that causes that problem. I thought the bug was fixed by now because I found this bug several months ago. I wanted to report the bug but I don't know how to do so.

TBH Hyce, you should have jumped right into a service, cut in the Ind, and toggle on PCS. You are too smart for the tutorial. It's a unique problem with TSW2, each time you start a new route you have to go through the route intro and they are built for someone with no experience (hence the no ind brake or dynamic, look around, use the camera, etc.). The service mode really is for the enthusiast, you can have all your safety systems, start from cold and dark, and there is no scripting to mess with schedule or route timing (PZB on German Routes can override scripted timing for example). TSW2 isn't perfect, but it is a solid experience in my opinion.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense. I would've assumed there would've been a briefing of some sort up front about that but I suppose not. Lol. For the next video! Haha

The guy in that GP38-2 is not scary compared to the one I saw inside the Gas Turbine in Train Simulator.

"It is a silly place" - was that a Python reference? :-D

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Now go away, or i shall taunt you a second time-uh!

@jonh845

2 жыл бұрын

Ni!

TSW is Norfolk Southern simulator, make the engineers do the conductor's job too because they laid off too many conductors lol

We arent going to talk about how unrealistic the locomotive sounds are

Hey Hyce, it's probably been mentionned already, but if not, I think you'd be happier with Run 8 than TSW2. It's not as good looking as TSW, but at least they focus on simulation rather than eye candy !

@bigdikboiCJ

2 жыл бұрын

trainz is best

You were monoluging during the second scenario that’s why it failed you! XD

I chalk this up to a bad sim? Yeah let's chalk it up to a bad sim.

When you said, you can't even look into the toilet, I thought, when Railroad Online get passager cars, will the have toilets?

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

Good question, lol!

The reason TSW2 LOOKS so much better than TS2022 is because it's "newer." The core of TS2022 has been around since 2014 or 2015 I believe, and elements of it have been floating around since it's original release in 2009. Basically Dovetail makes some minor adjustments every year, changes the title and sells it as a new game. This practice seems to have finally come to an end because TS2022 is now called Train Simulator Classic on Steam.

@PrinzEugen176

2 жыл бұрын

TS "Classic"(more like Vintage) is actually built off a game from 2007, Kuju's Rail Simulator, all of the American and European Asset packs are from Kuju's original game

@greyshadow9498

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrinzEugen176 That doesn't surprise me. I know that Dovetail's dates back to maybe 09? 10? (When it was RailWorks) I actually didn't even know of Kuju's (and EA's involvement). I do know the core of TS Classics quite old now (2015?), although they did release a 64 bit version while back, I can't speak to that, I had abandoned it by then. I enjoy TSW more, just wish it had more to do in the base game.

@FM60260

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrinzEugen176 The only reason why community asset packs are still sold is they are used for generic features by a lot of 3rd party developers who are the ones keeping TS Classic alive.

16:29. Just like you set the train brake, you must set the independent.

That's weird. The independent brake works for me.

@ethanvernonstrains9289

2 жыл бұрын

Update. It happened. I put the automatic brake in emergency and released it. The independent brake worked fine after that somehow

ROFL 24:57, you have found the most ridiculous bug of Train Sim World. I was hoping that one day Train Sim would become a somewhat realistic simulator as I kept buying into the original series and this one only to keep getting disappointed. Oh well, it satisfies my sadomasochistic necessities.

In which Hyce argues with the gameiness of a game :) Tune in next stream when he drives a train of atomic bombs into a crowded yard to watch the pretty explosions :)

@GretchenDawntreader

Жыл бұрын

I mean sure, you work on game design and have driven real trains. You aren't the target audience and they didn't invest in the modeling to the degree you would prefer. You're usually in a good mood in your videos and it feels weird to see you slamming a game like this.

@Hyce777

Жыл бұрын

That's fair! This game got so highly talked up to me I set my expectations too high. I have since leveled them for TSW2 but this is honestly a bit disappointing as a single offering.

They give you cab lights but no independent

You should try it when steam locomotives come out

There’s more helpful info for this game in the comments than anywhere online

Hyce, it would help to manualy disengage the brakes.

@Hyce777

2 жыл бұрын

now explain

@WesternColoradoHistory

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hyce777 well, the brakes on your trailing locomotive were still engaged. I noticed the brakes were engaged and then your speed starts to increase. I do believe you burned up the brakes. Your crash with the oncoming train was inevitable.

@WesternColoradoHistory

2 жыл бұрын

look at the frame of 30:46. All brakea are engaged

hyce you have to turn the knob on the side of the control stand to lead or dead

@mmmfoodstuff7102

2 жыл бұрын

yeah

36:01 Hey Hyce there is a map to look at were you needed to get to in this game because you are on the wrong tracks to get that set of cars I may have done that only once when I have played this game before