TSM vs FNC | Day 1 Group C S10 LoL Worlds 2020 | TSM vs Fnatic - Groups full game
full game FNC vs TSM lol worlds 2020 Day 1 Group C - Fnatic vs TSM. of Season 10 lol eSports World Championship 2020 in China.
LoL eSports S10 WORLDS 2020 Groups Round Robin 1 - TSM vs Fnatic Day 1 | League of Legends Worlds 2020 FNC vs TSM VOD 1080p Full HD.
Sixth match of the day - Fnatic vs TSM best of 1.
TSM vs FNC full game in HD 1080p.
Team Solomid Line-up:
Broken Blade - top Camille
Spica - jungle Nidalee
Bjergsen - mid Syndra
DoubleLift - ADC Senna
Biofrost - support Alistar
Fnatic Line-up:
Bwipo - Top Volibear
Selfmade - jungle Evelynn
Nemesis - mid Lucian
Rekkles - ADC Jhin
Hylissang - support Rakan
Patch: 10.19 - Season 10
Game date: 03.10.2020 | 10/03/2020 | October 3rd 2020
Game place: China
Casters: Ender and QuickShot
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@avish0wnine
3 жыл бұрын
V,
I just wanna appreciate Hylissang's map presence. He had a really impressive vision score and allowed FNC to have map control throughout the game. That enabled Selfmade and the others to farm all the jungle camps on the map. Even when they had a ~2.5k gold lead, which was not that significant, they also had at least a 5 level lead combined. Props to both teams, very enjoyable and tense game.
@colin8578
3 жыл бұрын
Honest question, but do you think Hylissang felt comfortable doing that because TSM was scared of the Evelynn? That jungle pick allowed Hylissang to roam freely. Even spica seemed scared of the Evelynn after 6 (as he should be.) Just curious on your thoughts. It was a great/tense game.
@thetrexgorawr
3 жыл бұрын
Tsm never contested vision that entire game lol
@jaybeecaranza9471
3 жыл бұрын
the control wards is out of place for tsm and with that evelynn can set where to gank and not
@williamschlass4598
3 жыл бұрын
It wasnt hylli it was mostly eve
@nathanshelton4487
3 жыл бұрын
Another EU fanboy that praises the weakest link on fnatic he’s playing the hardest champ to kill in the entire game wow!
13:45 Bwipo: Heavily emotive Spica: Dead serious Nemesis: Just dead
@rokingfrost8446
3 жыл бұрын
ROFL Good One
@DisgustingEye
3 жыл бұрын
Nemesis is the Death himself.
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bwipo seemed so happy after the 2v1
@ian7879
3 жыл бұрын
Where's the 1v2 sorry
@jasonh9383
3 жыл бұрын
Ian 12:00-12:05
@anonym25
3 жыл бұрын
It brang a big smile upon my face seeing him so happy
@KevinStrauss12
3 жыл бұрын
Lol Bwipo looks like he has downs
@griffins750
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Strauss and you spell like you have downs
So TSM had a month to prepare... and they gave FNC Eve and Lucian Wha ???
@tahkio
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't see Lucian as the issue this game at all. I'm for the criticism of Eve though
@mattiskasemo8919
3 жыл бұрын
Rika lucian is what enables eve tho. Otherwise they have too much magic damage
@LeoUnlion
3 жыл бұрын
@@tahkio Eve is AP, if you left lucian open it's free for Selfmade to pick his most confort pick.
@TheGoonsies
3 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that TSM said something about banning EVE when they find out they were in the same group - and then they don't and this is what happens xD
@Skystrike70
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoonsies yeah. NA coaches don't know how to ban. Players should just ignore them, they know what's important.
Honestly this is a support Diff Selfmade can farm peacefully while rakan is covering and doing the jungler job of protecting laners when they shove the minions to reset, small things do add up.
@13radleyl
3 жыл бұрын
Eve is also one of the only broken champs in the game right now and also a massive power pick for Selfmade as a whole. I'm not saying she is so broken she's winning the games on her own like previous worlds and times in the spring/summer splits BUT her invis is one of those mechanics in the game that makes jungling unsafe, laning unsafe, it puts you on edge even if you are playing safe and have vision. You can only have 5 control wards on a map with true sight to spot her out and if you lose control you can't find her on camps that easily either. Eve should be 100% ban for this reason alone. Even a bad Eve player can make teams question their maco.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh an afk player would have been a support difference over biofrost. Why would have flash q when it's a nidalee level 1 and Senna level 1. Who in the hell did they scrim that he thought it was the right move. Even if it was 3v3 you still aren't winning the trade.
@garyself554
3 жыл бұрын
Supp diff? I agree, Bio loves dying for some reason...and always has...
@piperfree4271
3 жыл бұрын
@Git Gud Yep it's not easy to play eve well. We've seen it with the eves in play ins, hasnt looked unbeatable at all... Selfmade is the best eve in europe and probably one of the best ones in the world. And the way he plays the map on the champ is really impressive to behold.
@tomatofarmerlarry3331
3 жыл бұрын
Hyli is doing good job but at the same time him and bwipo are the masters of ultra int. There isn't a game where hyli isn't making me nervous as fuck just watching when the camera is on him.
43:23 Player of the game #Selfmade *Evelynn* by *Selfmade* *Runes* : Domination, Sorcery ○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ● ○ ○ ● | ○ ○ ● *Combos* : Q(1) + F + E + AUTO + Q(2) + R
Sucks that no crowd in Worlds this year shouting random "TSM TSM TSM" in the background
@jorgelenny47
3 жыл бұрын
TRUEEE I didnt think about that... What a shame actually, one of the best parts of international league
@n00bforever
3 жыл бұрын
And then promptly get quiet as soon as TSM starts losing.
@jorgelenny47
3 жыл бұрын
@@n00bforever dude are you unfamiliar with people screaming tsm in games that tsm isnt playing?
@kian-rhysevans5576
3 жыл бұрын
The one positive of the coronavirus. The rest of the world is spared hearing the most obnoxious and worst fan base in league history.
@aracuscesar
3 жыл бұрын
thats great tho
Getting destroyed at worlds - questioning their region - forgetting what happened - getting hyped for worlds - think they can beat top EU teams - getting destroyed at worlds May the NA circle of life never stop.
@cin5570
3 жыл бұрын
ViolaMerda1 ... they weren’t destroyed though? It was a close game with self made being able to scale really hard being the game changer at the very end
@karnapriya4568
3 жыл бұрын
idk if destroyed is the right word. It could have been anyone's game tbh.
@hansoloq3467
3 жыл бұрын
@@cin5570 they fid get destroy. Hard outclassed in every lane...
@cin5570
3 жыл бұрын
HansoloQ counter top. Weak side bot. Eve getting a lead because of luv 1 invade also its self made eve. It was pretty even. Thought TSM lost draft. Not a destroy
@alfreddonald3789
3 жыл бұрын
I dont like NA either but bruh this is literally the first game smh, oh well LPL hype train lets go
spica was completely outclassed
@danneltheflannel
3 жыл бұрын
It was Bjergsen and Brokenblade vs 5
@sawtoothgrind1981
3 жыл бұрын
@@danneltheflannel Bjergson did ok in lane but he didnt do much in team fights, basicaly all he did was not int.
@wtf123847
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say biofrost being outclassed allowed Selfmade to do what he wanted
@ozymandias8523
3 жыл бұрын
JG DIFF
@earrapist3046
3 жыл бұрын
They actually won after that lv1 cheeae
Hylli stopped the recall and tried to recall back again, if I'm not mistaken, that makes some sound even if you're not visible as long as your near enough. That's probably why they knew someone was in the alcove.
@user-fc1kv7oy1c
3 жыл бұрын
darkan cy true idk if it a bug or not but you hear a lot of stuff even if you dont have vision
@emeraldgreenz
3 жыл бұрын
I’m too lazy to look back at it, but I think if he kept channeling his recall he may have survived.
@Talzum
3 жыл бұрын
EmeraldGreenz it was 9 seconds when Senna threw her skill shot there, so he might’ve gotten out.
8:44 Spica miss a spear AND a trap on red buff. Pull it together man.
@apexpredator9021
3 жыл бұрын
Spica played so bad this game XDDD
@CubeFace69
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao didn't see the trap till now.
@NoPointKing
3 жыл бұрын
Hoooooly shit. That's terrible. The man was shook.
@stevearnold8265
3 жыл бұрын
Spica looked kinda sus. Hopefully he got the jitters out.
@kosdsd6524
3 жыл бұрын
Ur mama
1:09 I thought Mithy was reading the Bible there for a second
@35:20 the Play of the game goes too...
@earrapist3046
3 жыл бұрын
Bb on the 1v2 kill
@egozocker14
3 жыл бұрын
Bb play was better
@TheOtherChef
3 жыл бұрын
@@egozocker14 this BB play? @39:50
@egozocker14
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOtherChef why would you even argue that. He got a kill in a 1 vs 2 situation. It was the better play
@earrapist3046
3 жыл бұрын
@Git Gud hes playing a tank top lol, 2x more hp same dmg, not that impressive tbh with the level advantage
actually a very close game, until FNC snuk away the baron
@Someothername2134
3 жыл бұрын
That seems to always be the case at worlds with NA. Stay within spitting distance and them boom game is over.
@Boost400
3 жыл бұрын
Thats is gonna be na peak. Still close to the opponent but losing regardless
@LeoxSevered
3 жыл бұрын
It looked close but tsm was at map disadvantage the majority of the game, and FNC kept senna behind specifically.
@Someothername2134
3 жыл бұрын
LeoxSevered true true. TSM made a couple good moves with the herald to get early tower pressure and their second dragon but overall FNC was in total control. The baron jus caught TsM totally sleeping.
@Whales1992
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you perceive the game. If you were looking at it from a strictly gold perspective, then yes, it was close. But TSM were getting out Macroed and had little vision control over the game. And more importantly, Selfmade had a 3-4 level gap over TSMS jungler for most of the game, Bwipo had 1-2 levels over BB, even Nemesis had a level over Syndra, and Rekkles had a level -2 levels over Senna due to it. They were far more ahead , despite what the gold difference said.
Selfmade put so much pressure on the map
@JnrnzburnkUQq
3 жыл бұрын
Also hylli
@shiaeliminator6484
3 жыл бұрын
@@JnrnzburnkUQq the vision control from hilly and the mindgame from selfmade won the macro
Why not ban selfmade's Eve and Nemesis' Lucian?
@fernandoroca5457
3 жыл бұрын
Good question, we all know how good they are with those champs
@Ieatbabys123456
3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoroca5457 right? Eve is already oppressive enough but when you have Selfmade's Eve its a nightmare
@jhonny8421
3 жыл бұрын
not to hate, but nemesis almost nothing done in that game lol, it was all bwipo n selfmade at my sight
@Ieatbabys123456
3 жыл бұрын
@@jhonny8421 that is true for this game but the question remains. Why even give him the chance to pop off? We saw how rough he looks on other champs and we saw some stability when he ran Lucian so why would you allow him a comfort pick?
@miguelarcoscordoba74
3 жыл бұрын
@NA lives rent free in EU i mean at least we are able of having games against them... Like good luck getting out of groups JAJAJAJAJ
despite brokenblade's tryhard attempts/solo laning, FNC still wins kekw feelsbadman Gotta give credits to selfmade, man really set fear in hearts of TSM with his ultra hd assasination
@Damian-yd6ir
3 жыл бұрын
?? except that kill on eve, bb pretty much got smashed by bwipo
@abcdklabcdkl6583
3 жыл бұрын
Caffrey Lee but it was a losing matchup on 1v1 until late game the thing is he did not make his team suffer while losing and keep the team afloat until the baron loss (whic was the reason they lost )with his split pushs and stuff fnc was constantly forced to use resources on bb
@MrWowtrash
3 жыл бұрын
Meh tsm threw with letting fnatic get baron only reason fnatic got going was tied in gold and even everywhere bef0re that
@chrischinn7245
3 жыл бұрын
@@abcdklabcdkl6583 Exactly, I swear most people commenting are absent minded on how the game works.
@abcdklabcdkl6583
3 жыл бұрын
Fern Ayoo i agree it was a done deal after baron but in most cases the tsm would be behind gold cuz top would be stomped in voli v camile
I love how selfmade ulted the nexus at the end just for fun
i dont understand the thresh ban from TSM that coulda ban eve or voli they lost game in pick and ban all lanes lost except mid
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Selfmade will always choose carry junglers, Evelynn is just so good in his hands. But she's not the only good pick of his. I'm more worried about Nemesis .
@markaufderhaar4293
3 жыл бұрын
@Git Gud he was nida main back in the day if im right
@anthonykim4479
3 жыл бұрын
Mark Auf der Haar he started out as a nidalee onetrick
@markaufderhaar4293
3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonykim4479 during l9 no? Or be4
@jaybeecaranza9471
3 жыл бұрын
naaa, let selfmade pick carry champs in thr jgl and let nemesis get the seatback with flex pick, nemesis can play anything if he want to pick flex mid because thats the meta right now
@anthonykim4479
3 жыл бұрын
@@markaufderhaar4293 I think it was mentioned on an interview that when he got scouted originally (so still challenger) he was a nidalee one trick* (he played other things but his games were predominantly nidalee)
Bwipo seems like a nice guy
I think TL has more of a chance of getting passed Suning and Machi than TSM does getting out of fourth place in group C.
@wass9863
3 жыл бұрын
I see you didnt mention G2 I guess u knw the result KEKW
@marionplaza4240
3 жыл бұрын
no
@iamcrazypeople6961
3 жыл бұрын
TL lost to machi, nice NA thinks
Beard bwipo!!!
@cin5570
3 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Dole love his fking beard
@samuilpetrov4774
3 жыл бұрын
He looks so mexican
@KevinStrauss12
3 жыл бұрын
Bwipo acts like he has downs lmao
@KevinStrauss12
3 жыл бұрын
It’s probably pubs glued to his chin
@j.doele1620
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Strauss just like u:)))
why is it spanish on league's website?
Right at 7:34 why tf did biofrost flash q in when senna/nidalee are only level 1 and senna is a late game carry?
Bwipo looks like his playback speed is x2 LMAO
Are we getting out of groups this year? NAh
@davviewavvie7962
3 жыл бұрын
no c9 no NA in knock out
@ziegfeld4131
3 жыл бұрын
FNC isnt getting out either lol
@IfWhatYes
3 жыл бұрын
zieg feld as much as I love the guy FNC isn’t going anywhere with bwipo
can't lie fnatic played super clean in the macro
@iwantlee9510
3 жыл бұрын
No, it wasnt. The second baron was bad. They allowed Spica to get into the pit. It was a really shitty and risky call that could have cost them the game.
@MrWowtrash
3 жыл бұрын
@Git Gud she had an execute on q
@cooledry
3 жыл бұрын
@Fern Ayoo Which is absurdly lower than Eve’s R
@JnrnzburnkUQq
3 жыл бұрын
@@iwantlee9510 look i found a NA fan that thinks a nida can outsmite an eve thats 3 level higher
@danielcojocariu8438
3 жыл бұрын
@@JnrnzburnkUQq 😂😂 they can't understand, fnatic was better
these teams need to understand unless Nid gets fed early and keeps up the pressure you lose
NOT GOOD ENOUGH! FNC need to finish with teams like that in less than 30 min if they want to accomplish anything in worlds. Props to tsm though. They overachieved heavily losing in 34.
@ryanw2945
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Jdgamer17PvP
3 жыл бұрын
At this point EU should just root for G2 the rest of the lec still has a lot to improve
@Honking_Goose
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jdgamer17PvP Are you brain damaged or something? Didn't you just watch your number 1 team get styled on by FNC?
@Jdgamer17PvP
3 жыл бұрын
@@Honking_Goose Im from Latin America LOL and I think you meant "IS your brain damaged" If it wasnt obvious yet FNC is good but G2 is the real deal for Europe, just facts.
How often these guys keep watching the map around the 24:00 video mark is actually insane. It’s almost like they are spending 50% of the time watching the map through all of their motions
1. Thanks epicskillshot. 2. Who dafak decided it was a good decision to have the names of the players sideways in champ select?
Thanks man, idk why but you are faster than lolesports with the upload :)
@EpicSkillshot
3 жыл бұрын
I try hard :)
TSM´s biggest weakness comes back to haunt them...Giving away free barons when they have the match under controll/not losing by a huge margin...They had a much better draft, they just simply coudnt find the picks with syndra and camille, and as soon as Fnatic got the baron it was over...
@EBGamers3
3 жыл бұрын
they had a decent draft but giving selfmade evelyn was a huge mistake. why ban thresh over evelyn? not the best draft. but i agree with your other points
@andriuso2892
3 жыл бұрын
TSM biggest weakness is ban/pick phase how they not banning lucian/evelynn vs fnatic??
@swtorrogaming8384
3 жыл бұрын
NA League Normie detected ....FNC got what they wanted .. Bwipo on a self sufficient weakside toplaner ..Selfmade on a jungle carry ..Nemesis on a farming mid ..Rekkles on utility adc and Hyllisang on engage champion ... if ur telling me that TSM had draft advantage ur fckin delusional ..
@hybmnzz2658
3 жыл бұрын
@@swtorrogaming8384 exactly.
@Honking_Goose
3 жыл бұрын
EU macro is just way better then NA macro
Did you know that there are still people who believe TSM could take world
@baileythompson8181
3 жыл бұрын
that is an awful attempt at writing in english... however, TSM put up a good fight this game, it was highly competitive
@disabledhorse6030
3 жыл бұрын
It was a close game and please make sure your brain is turned on next time you comment something.
@spirit959ful
3 жыл бұрын
@@disabledhorse6030 I think you should turn your brain on aswell. Imagine calling a game close when one team got completely outmacroed the entire time. Delusional Na fans kekW
@KevinStrauss12
3 жыл бұрын
Lol “stilling” “can take” you just played yourself truly expressing the nature of an Eu fan.
@esequielhernandez5231
3 жыл бұрын
I’m from NA, and who cares how he types lmao? TSM GOT CLAPPED
So That was NA 1st Seed ! RIP for TL vs G2 +18
@boatengineer6275
3 жыл бұрын
TL is better compared to TSM. TSM just got lucky with 2 really close 3-2 games. I expect TL to be the only NA team to do decent. I did not watch Suning that much so not sure how they will do against them tho.
@SirNikurasu
3 жыл бұрын
@@boatengineer6275 No, they did not get lucky, they won that through mid diff. Bjergsen controlled the lane, and the other two teams, Liquid and FlyQuest, both played entirely different from what they usually would play.
@flakey9155
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah TSM is dogshit
@donnellbrown4575
3 жыл бұрын
@@SirNikurasu TL lost to tsm because they tried to be cute an try shit they never played
@konkerouf
3 жыл бұрын
@@boatengineer6275 tsm is like couple of other players out there (AHEM MAD LIONS). they got insane luck despite stupid plays... + NA < *. being seed 1 na means nothing
But, but EU was going to lose every game because MAD didn’t get through play ins. Isn’t that right NA?
As a C9 fan, it fills me with so much joy to see TSM lose. Thank you Fnatic. ❤
@chrischinn7245
3 жыл бұрын
that's sad. seek help
@Chinesekage
3 жыл бұрын
Lol C9 isn’t at worlds
@deyndel
3 жыл бұрын
@@Chinesekage that doesn't hurt me the way you hoped it would lmao
kekw 2nd best from EU is really goooooood and look at that happy face of bwipo lol worth i was really annoyed from nemesis in lec finals after 3-0 from g2 but hell yeah fnc back in action les go
@maxedoutbeing3239
3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's world's they always show up
@xanderstyles8473
3 жыл бұрын
He was against caps tbf
@xanderstyles8473
3 жыл бұрын
@Tim Bernard cause wunder and caps are the best players in Europe atm
@chrischinn7245
3 жыл бұрын
what did nemesis do this game except lose a winning matchup
@snoylax69
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrischinn7245 You mean playing the first 5 minutes of lane without flash?
12:01 you can't help but love bwipo
@fleda7629
3 жыл бұрын
I know right, everyone if so focused, which is not bad right, but then there is Bwipo having constantly a smile on his face, it's just enjoyable to watch him
@aracuscesar
3 жыл бұрын
i can
@fernandomoreno7677
3 жыл бұрын
@@aracuscesar :(
Looks like DL going to get knockout of groups again 😂
DL with the eve cosplay.
@blazeray1000
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because a senna was going to really going to do something vs that comp. She has nothing to stand behind and nothing to save her considering alistar needs to be up front. Just a bad draft.
@Nvidie
3 жыл бұрын
@@blazeray1000 Tsm comp outscales fnatics, they couldve won after 4 items, but they lost everythings after that sneaky baron from fnc.
is tsm really this bad? like chilling taking dragon while base is open with inhi down kekw
@danzrt
3 жыл бұрын
yes, they are!
Selfmade really controlled the map throughout the whole game
GG to Fnatic. They got their comfort mid/jungle and ran with it.
@flamemano
3 жыл бұрын
So did tsm....
@codi4501
3 жыл бұрын
@@flamemano tsm RAN it down instead
What a beautiful gameplay from fnatic
drafts not the best, but they really fucked up in letting them sneak the baron
So Bjerg game plan to Farmbot?
41:11 Wait, since when is MagiFelix on the main team o-O
@NightWalkStudios
3 жыл бұрын
Already since the mid of summer split, if I’m not wrong
@fleda7629
3 жыл бұрын
@@NightWalkStudios I watched the two new episodes from LiA, when Dan was on the team to help out, he was present but I haven't seen him at all; was just surprised, thx for the answer
Closer than expected tbh
Tsm at worlds is a huge meme at this point. This is the #1 seed from na guys.... losing to a damn #2.. I think thats the first team in the tourney to do that so far.
@stefanopaolini6117
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should give 2 seeds to Na and 3 to Taiwan
Selfmade is feeling like a rap god rap god
Just here to see who’s better NA or EU 😂
I mean, at least it wasn’t a stomp, so I believe in TSM getting better over tourney (but historically they do the opposite lol)
after seeing earlier games today. I bet they will getting a hard time toe to toe with the lpl, lck teams. I mean look how koreans teams won today with chinese teams while these chinese team was playing good as well.
@xanderstyles8473
3 жыл бұрын
It is DWG who are predicted finals so its hard to gauge
@kevinsmarx
3 жыл бұрын
Yea the gap is big again..
@Swampert919
3 жыл бұрын
It’s still hard to say, Besides fly and rouge the western teams get to kinda avoid the best of the LPL and LCK... would probably have to wait until knockouts before we can really comment on the gap.
@13radleyl
3 жыл бұрын
@@Swampert919 Honestly, it seems like DWG is the gap. Take them out and it becomes a much more even worlds event. Unless a massive upset happens I see them winning worlds with how they play this year. I want other teams to win though, but DWG is playing in a different league.
@Swampert919
3 жыл бұрын
13radley I true but this is still Bo1s, they aren’t always the best for determining who is the best (can DWG maintain that momentum and adapt throughout a Bo5 vs other international teams or is this a one off, for instance)... not to mention we’ve seen them vs a second seed team so we’ve got no idea how they stack up to TES or G2. It’s certainly a good start for Korea, let’s see if they can keep this up and what the other regions have in store for them before we render judgement (or see if JDG can bounce back).
Love how happy bwipo is
FreeSM
34:18 you're welcome.
Did you know SPICA is mechanical fuel injection system implemented in Alfa Romeo Montreal?
Why no one pick other sup like sona . Raka . Janna . Lux. Morg . ...
@JnrnzburnkUQq
3 жыл бұрын
Lux is a shit support
a while back, FNC wouldve crushed em. These days FNC vs TSM is a coin toss... Im glad FNC won cause its my fav team, but this was way too close.
When you have to watch the VOD here instead of league's own fucking website because the only option on their's is SPANISH!?!!
typical NA TSM worlds.... "TSM has the best mid and adc in NA..." neither perform on the world stage. Never believe in this team when worlds come around. smh
@AwesomeLifeguard
3 жыл бұрын
when has doublelift ever performed lol. he was weak and passive all of summer and spring.
@attehorkko7683
3 жыл бұрын
They forgot that they faced against the best western adc of all time: Rekkles :)
Imagine expecting any NA team to not get completely shat on this year. NA as a region this year is ESPECIALLY bad. Like it's insane how bad they are. They don't even deserve to be a 3 seed region. In fact they should have just taken away 2 of the seeds to give one each to LCK and LPL so we might actually be able to see some competitive games.
camille vs voli 3 times today kinda boring but at least bwipo was the only one who won as voli
It doesn't matter that you gave Bjerg the Syndra why in god's name would you ever let Lucian and Evelyn get through???
WHERE IS THE NEW BWIPO GIF?
Looking back at this game, if TSM play Lillia instead of Nidalee, they likely win. Really awkward for their comp, even given the synergy with Camille
Welcome to groups NA
REKKLES LOSE WEIGHT?
Zil was open and bjerg didn’t go for it
@hajime2k
3 жыл бұрын
WHY does Doublelift keep picking Senna? Isn't he like 1-6 with her this year? Bjergsen is really good on Syndra, so I can't criticize him on that pick.
@cin5570
3 жыл бұрын
hajime2k he was popping off on it in playoffs
@DemonicGorilla
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, have fun playing zilean into lucian.
@sozialbetreuer
3 жыл бұрын
@@hajime2k Bjergsen just plays champions he dont have to interact with laners - Syndra / Zilean / Orianna - the moment he has to go for the skillcheck, he is gigainting.
@harrisonsloan6036
3 жыл бұрын
hajime2k he didn’t really do anything wrong he played well, his bad death was just ultimate luck and a good play. TSM lost on macro, they didn’t really make any plays and just waited for the L
I remember when Bjergson said GG if they ban eve in the group draws
There is something to learn here. Don't let Selfmade get his fucking Eve.
Tsm only messed up due to having to make guesses with lack of vision. When they were wrong, they lost a lot, such as being in the wrong position for that last dragon fight - half the team was hanging back expecting something to happen, but it didn't so all it accomplished was letting FNC take drag only contested 5 v 2
I wonder how the new season 11 items will change the game for the pro players
Not too upset with what I saw, tsm actually hung in there up until late game.
@christianmayonove6914
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they fell asleep for the baron which was discouraging, but other than that....I was happy with what I saw. I did want prio on the Lucian in draft....and once they locked in camile I wanted to see the Zilean for the combo. In hindsight, zilean would have helped vs eve too.
@arneh.180
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianmayonove6914 zilean only works in NA mate
@christianmayonove6914
3 жыл бұрын
@@arneh.180 Isn't that the point of worlds? Each region brings their unique styles together?
@Dadcollects
3 жыл бұрын
Christian Mayonove agreed and disagreed, I don’t think champs were just the problem, I think overall they’re really aggressive and willing to fight anywhere and their mechanics seem to match gen and fnc , but it seems they have no idea what to do on the map sometimes, even their more recent game, they got kills and did nothing after. Which I’m not a pro so I’m not judging nor do I understand all circumstances by any means, but just seeing outside looking in, it looks like they’re a little lost after getting some kills on the map, idk.
DL almost flame horizoned first game at worlds - never change NA
eu > na
Don't get surprised in jng lvl 1 and don't leash the dragon if you're not going to contest it and then be late to baron.
I would love to know how many of these Selfmade "fans" were the ones who wanted him out of the team and were trashtalking him when he had some bad games ....
@Glauaiv
3 жыл бұрын
He was the best performer even when team was struggling... He should not have many haters
@anadonner4685
3 жыл бұрын
@@Glauaiv its the same for hyli or anybody else on the team... if u are a fan, u are a fan even when the team sucks .... when u are just there when they win u are not a fan ...
LOL. I feel bad for anyone who watched the tsm video to get you “hyped” for worlds. Then watched this... NA is a let down every single year.
I think they dont even know why they pic Nida, I think the only reason is cause they think it is meta.
@christianmayonove6914
3 жыл бұрын
Insanely stupid comment. Nidalee is Spica's best champion. Keep in mind - Spica is a rookie, and joined TSM for Summer 2020 (not even spring).
@juanpabloorselli9001
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stupid pick. If it doesn't stomp in early game (something very hard to happen) it is such a dull presence in the map. 0 utility, low damage and no cc. Almost the same reasons why you don't see Shaco in competitive.
@fabianjohn3858
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianmayonove6914 Okay srry i was wrong and dont know the player, i just dont understand the hole nida hype.
@christianmayonove6914
3 жыл бұрын
@@fabianjohn3858 All good. Spica just got outclassed by a better jungler. I do think first picking for your rookie was a stupid decision, though.
@fabianjohn3858
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianmayonove6914 true if its his comfortpic
this rakan complete toss
Let's see how the G2 hype turns out, but so far it looks like the gap difference is closing between wildcard regions, LCS and LEC. But not between those regions and LPL, LCK.
@Nvidie
3 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me that lgd from LPL actually played clean in the play ins versus wildcard teams?
bb with that crazy outplay. Nice
I wanted to say it was a close game but.. Bwipo was inting. It wasn't that obvious because of how TSM performed. TSM was just too indecisive.
Hylisnack is so cute lmao
Is TSM NA's first seed?
@taffo__5310
3 жыл бұрын
yep.
@marcoy1059
3 жыл бұрын
imagine even TSM can be a region first seed, jesus christ
classic doublelift, cant come through and be useful for the team. Guess sleeping with the owner cant get him to win worlds eh?
Tbh whoever made the call of not banning eve needs to be talked to. Softly put. Besides that, TSM deserves this loss because of some of their players’ arrogance
@XplicitStory
3 жыл бұрын
Eve isn’t worth first round pick there is too many power picks while Eve is rarely picked. When tsm meet them again I’m sure eve won’t even be played
@AznOtakuGamer
3 жыл бұрын
@@XplicitStory I think it depends on the team you're versing to be honest. Selfmade is really good on eve and destroyed g2 with it in the plays offs. If I remember correctly im pretty sure in the g2 vs fnc summer finals eve was banned every game by g2
@ichigo8789
3 жыл бұрын
what arrogance are you talkig about?
@Khazorin
3 жыл бұрын
When was tsm arrogant?
@captain8341
3 жыл бұрын
Refusing to ban a comp that was perma banned in the LEC finals, a comp that everyone knows Fnatic know how to play blindfolded. That comes off as arrogance 😝.
I see biofrost is checking his paypal as we speak
why nemesis never seem happy? 😅
Fnatic is looking good. Maybe it's just them being on comfort picks, but they're actually looking like they'll go somewhere.
@hajime2k
3 жыл бұрын
Fnatic will find a way to mess up. Drakos' verse on the Mediocre Rap Battle described Fnatic to a T. Fnatic was expected to beat TSM, but I can easily see TSM beating them next time.
Broken Blade lookin like Dyrus Jr.
I honestly think TSM will win after watching this... who else felt it?? Dropping 3 kills... fking up early game and still manage to hold on tight even against eve.. next time eve is ban and no early horrible set up.. TSM looks better.
@mibrg2078
3 жыл бұрын
Nah dude tsm will not iam more optimistic about TL they have the better chance tsm have no jung and supp
@Germanwildcats2
3 жыл бұрын
idk i think we watched different games. Tsm litterly did nothing whole game, bjerg had 1 roam and bb had some individual outplays and that's it. Fnc was always in control, taking everything important, ahead in gold/levels/vision and map pressure. Ofc it was because of the eve pick, but still tsm didn't look good, fnc just played it slow. Tsm didn't look bad either, they played it like tsm always does: Doing nothing, waiting for mistakes to punish.
@gh-pv3yo
3 жыл бұрын
@@Germanwildcats2 I would say FNC made sure they did not let TSM do anything. The eve pick was supposed to be weaker than nid early game but the play at red buff lvl 1 made Eve's life easier. That just accelerated eve's power and thus not allowing TSM to splitpush because of the threat of eve stealth after 6.
@DanielTxRib
3 жыл бұрын
Nah Fnatic was always with the upper hand, even when behind in gold. When they failed it was because they over reached
@gh-pv3yo
3 жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong, the dragon for inhib trade was awful. But saying that TSM did nothing the whole game is kinda troll. Give the team some credit for 'trying.' The game felt close up until the dragon inhib trade. FNC did well choking TSM because FNC had the advantage level 1. If the game started with nid and eve even, then i can see a world where spica camps top to enable brokenblade. But sadly FNC was a step ahead in lvl 1 preparation. Overall it was a competitive game. Both sides had good moments and bad. And im sure both teams will fix their mistakes and move forward.
bruh i can even recognize Bjerg without Bread.
No NA teams will get out of groups stage, mark my word
@maxedoutbeing3239
3 жыл бұрын
Now That's a statement. Bt let's be humble and just enjoy
@slan0305
3 жыл бұрын
Hardly a bold prediction, maybe TL get out but it's not on their hands, they can only make it out down to level of the other teams, if one underperforms big
@marcoy1059
3 жыл бұрын
AT P TL lost to machi 🤣🤣🤣 TL might go 3-3 again or even worst, they still haven’t played G2
GG good game was fun to watch