🌀Question: What do you use to edit your photos?

@mr.t5610

5 ай бұрын

Lr.

@keoni37

5 ай бұрын

Camera Raw and Photoshop.

@andredupuis7018

5 ай бұрын

LrC

@jdub1963yahoocom

5 ай бұрын

Lightroom Classic with specific roundtrips into Photoshop.

@MichaelCantwell

5 ай бұрын

Camera raw and Photoshop

I've always liked watching Mark Denney's videos before and after... before and after

@MarkDenneyPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Hahah - love it!

@kfacpa

5 ай бұрын

Kinda like going to the optometrist... number 1 or... number 2? number 1 or number 2????

Always great to get another aspect. Thanks for sharing. Love your channel.

I opened some of my older photos and rewatched this video and applied this process to them. It is a nice editing effect on some images. Thanks.

Thanks Mark sharing this. Wonderful video 😊❤

Mark! Thank you so much for showing this to us. I hadn't ever thought about doing that. I'm about to do it to this snow scene I captured. I really appreciate you showing us your tips and tricks. I wouldn't be where I am today in Lightroom without you. Thank you!

One of the best videos I've seen (presentation and content). I've learned a lot and marked this video for future remind. Thank you

Another great tutorial. Need to add this to my workflow.

Very easy to understand your clear instruction on how to create such a beautiful effect. Thank you.

Great demonstration. Thanks!

Thanks for sharing. Beautiful image!

Thanks Mark, that was 10 minutes watching your video very well spent; I hadn’t realised you could apply the Orton Effect in Lightroom.

Encore une fois très intéressant, merci beaucoup!

Super info Mark, thank you!

Thanks for posting this tutorial Mark...any added "tool of knowledge" one can pick-up and apply is a great thing!

This is something I will definitely have a go at thanks very much for that info

What a great video Mark ...a very simple but effective tip 👍

Thank you. I learnt a lot from this presentation.

I'll be using that! Thanks!

I love your tutorials - you make it so easy to understand and follow along. Thank you!

@MarkDenneyPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Thank you for the video!

Love it!

Very useful video! I use lightroom and struggle with Photoshop so this video was a HUGE help. Thank you for sharing.

Thanks! That was very interesting with a great demonstration how to apply. Keep,it up!

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Great tutorial. First, I watched the video. Then I opened up LRC, selected an image and applied the instructions step by step while going back and forth between the video and LRC. I did change some things for my particular photo and it came out much better than my original edit. Thanks!

Awesome, thank you. 😊

Love that you can do this now in LR-- Thanks Mark

Good stuff! Thanks!

Thank you, well done

Thanks for the excellent video Mark! Will be going back to all my landscape photos and applying this effect!

Nicely done Mark. Thanks!

@MarkDenneyPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Fantastic teaching video. Thanks

Great info!!🎉

great video thank you - been looking for a tutorial on this effect for a while. Cheers :)

Great video! I’ll try it.

I was intrigued by why you put a mask on the entire image rather than...editing the entire image. The intersection with the luminance range was a total joy for me to discover by watching your, once again, most excellent tutorial. I'm now off to try this on a black and white image I edited yesterday. Thank you!

Love it! I made a slight change to the process that might make it easier. Instead of using a Brush mask to select everything, I'm starting with a Luminosity mask that uses the full range. You're still able to intersect this with the Luminosity mask to dial the effect into the brighter portions of the image later. It *seems* to work identically. Maybe?

Very well explained and helpful. Thank you.

@MarkDenneyPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Another great video. It's a good one to make a preset of.

Nice explanation!

Best tutorials!😃

Very helpful video. I’m a novice amateur photographer and just downloaded Lightroom. I have some, what I think are, great photos from a recent trip to Antarctica I’m going to try this on. Thanks Mark, really love your videos.

Fantastic Mark! I like to soften my landscapes because today’s digital cameras make them too sharp. Love your recipe for Orton effect and the dreamy glow.

This is great

Really useful video 👍

Appreciate!

A very useful lesson! I wrote it down in my notebook. Hello from Russia 😊

Excellent demonstration! I don't do anything in Photoshop and stick with Lightroom because I feel more comfortable with it. I wondered how you got that look to your photos.

Great tips here, Mark; thanks. Some amazing new tools in Lightroom ... much better than the original Orton Effect process; blending two images, one sharp, one slightly out of focus

Why are you not just using a luminance mask to begin with? Doesn't seem like you need to use the extra step of a brush mask.

@ChuckRiley

2 ай бұрын

I had the same question. Also, you can save the mask as a preset which can be reused on other images.

Hi Mark, I like your method of applying the Orton Effect, seems simpler than other methods (so so many of them). I'm a Camera Raw user and your method is exactly the same in ACR. Thank you.

Thank you. What a change I can do so much better. Photoshop isn't my friend lately

hi Mark Thank you so much for sharing this technique - Honestly, Not quite sure it is actually Orton technic but it helps to improve some of my photographies. Especially those which have a large portion of darkness and shadows- and a small portion of High lights. The gloomy softening effects enhance the areas of high luminance. So thanks again Mark

Nice Video, i never heard about the Orton effect, this was very informative and perfectly explained. Btw, breathtaking photo congrats.

The Orton effect has been popular for the the last 30 years, but judicial use is a good tip!

Thanks for the tip, I will definitely use this, and try it out on some older photos to start with. I use Camera Raw to edit my photos, and some Photoshop if necessary. I loathe the filing system of Lightroom with the catalogs.

That's a great alternative to Photoshop. Easy preset to get in the ballpark.

Thanks for sharing this ... almost all of my editing is done in Lightroom because I find that Photoshop is too complex for me. I will start using the Orton Effect now.

Hi Mark, another great video. It's nice to see different ways to achieve this effect. It shows another way Lightroom is closing the gap with Photoshop and there are fewer and fewer reasons to bring an image into Photoshop. I am curious why you create the mask over the entire image and then intersect it with a luminance range, and don't just use a luminance range to begin with?

@vidab18

5 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. The "total mask" does not seem to do anything 🤔

That video was definitely worth 10 minutes of my time. Thank you.

@MarkDenneyPhoto

5 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

@user-jd1sm1vw2x

5 ай бұрын

@@MarkDenneyPhoto The best thing about this video, for me, is that these instructions can be applied to editing in general, not just the Orton Effect: 1. How to target particular areas in a photo using luminance masking; and 2. How to use masking in the sharpening tool. 👍👍

Mark, this is very useful. An easier way to create the entire mask is with the linear gradient. You don't have to worry about changing brush size, opacity, or anything. Make sure your image is reduced on the screen. Then, place your gradient start on the right side, for example, just outside the image frame. Drag the linear gradient from left to right. Voilà! The whole image is selected.

Very nice Mark, I’m gonna make a new preset for this! I’m bewildered, however, thinking that the net effect of the total mask intersected with a luminance range is absolutely equivalent to just selecting the luminance range alone. Would be great if you could clarify (no pun intended) how they are different.

Thanks for this video. I use CaptureOne, but can see exactly how to replicate this process/look with it. I look forward to trying it out soon.

I just recently used this but need to pay using the masking.. but even there’s no mask I really like all the features of light room.. thanks for this

Sure... AFTER I start using photoshop (from your other video on OE), now you show us how to do it in Lightroom! HAHAHAHA! I've been doing something similar in LRC over the years, but didn't realize it was the OE. Great video as always!

@RobZ1967

5 ай бұрын

I use the Grad Filter, but just put it completely off to the side, rather than the brush method. Other than that, pretty much exactly the same!

Hi Mark: thanks for this video and all the other great work. I have found a flaw in this workflow, and I think there's a way to overcome it, but I don't know if that's what you did or not. Everything is fine until your step for global sharpening. Problem is that for most cameras, there has to be a step of "input sharpening" that is roughly close to what Lightroom chooses, plus or minus some tweaks. You essentially eliminated that step with the 100% sharpening with a high mask, and thus we lose the global detail provided by this input sharpening. Of course, this can be overcome by saving an intermediate version (as a tif or dng) that just has the input sharpening , and then you apply the whole Orton effect steps, including that global sharpening with a high mask as you do. Or one can do this Orton alternative in ACR on a globally sharpened image in PS, or some other combination. I am not sure that this was your intent or workflow, so please comment. Thanks.

Hi Mark, Nice tutorial. To mask everything I place a dot with the brush outside op the image and then check invert. Br, Richard

Mark, as always another informative and interesting tutorial. I am curious though what you used as your starting point. Had you already done all of your other edits such as the sky and the gold trees? And, then you just put the total mask on top of that? I may have to give this a shot.

That was fantastic, thanks Mark! Do you apply this as a last step to fully edited photo's though? The photo you worked on didn't have any other edits?

Great video thank you.. I preferred the Orton Effect on the entire photo, but that's just me...

I use LrC to prepare the image and get a good histogram. Then Ps for detail work and colour grade. Yes, everone is telling me I should be doing more in LrC. But I find the Ps masking to be much more controllable.

Brilliant, now all our pictures can look the same 😂 🎉🎉🎉 Just kidding! Thanks Mark!

Thats great! Is there a way to also slightly blur the Orton overlay? In PS you normally use Gaussian Blur to the Orton Mask. The Dehaze or Clarity slider only affect the contrast, not that smooth dreamy blurred effect.

Great tutorial Mark, thanks so much.

Gradiant mask. Just start the mask near a corner, drag diagonally out. Results in an all image mask. Fewer steps.

1:20 u only need to zoom out like 25% and u can put the gradient filter below the photo so the entire photo got 100% covered

Nice! How would I make a preset for this? Just the effect and not the other adjustments?

Hey, having just found your channel I am enjoying your detailed and well-thought-out examples. I wonder why you are not using a quicker way to place a mask across the whole image? An old trick. Use the Linear Gradient, but make your photo small enough and then click say to the left outside of the photo and drag right. This puts a mask across the whole image; quicker than the brush.

Thank you! That was a better tip than "never moon a werewolf". And I got warm, fuzzy "Office Space" vibes every time you said "just go ahead and...", and it would be perfect if you'd end those go aheads with "that'd be greeeaaat" 🥹

I'm surprised you didn't make the final step setting this technique as a Masking Preset that can be tweeked on a photo by photo basis Mark. Think I shall do just that.

Hey Mark, love the channel, I generally use camera raw and find that I only use lightroom for making panoramic stitched pictures. Camera raw has it in the drop box but doesn't work. Do you know how to make it work? Robert

i guss you could make a preset of this as well right? GRAET VIDEO! 👍

You CAN use the Linear Gradient to create your "total mask." Chose the Linear Gradient Mask, place the cursor in the margin OUTSIDE of the image and drag AWAY from the image. That selects the entire image evenly, all at once.

Seems like you could get the same result by applying negative dehaze to a luminosity mask?

If you want to use the linear gradient to create a full image mask, simply start at the bottom and drag down just a couple of pixels.

Also, I shoot a lot with an infrared (720mm) converted camera. Do you think this would help digital infrared black and whites look like the Kodak HIE infrared film I used to shoot with? Thanks again.

Hi Mark, I'm wondering why you don't just create a luminance mask at the outset. What advantage does the total mask bring?

@realMysta

5 ай бұрын

Same

With a linear gradient, surely you just have to pull the top handle all the way to the bottom, creating a hard grad and the whole image will be affected 🤔 Of course you're brush technique works perfectly fine anyway.

Cool video. I didn’t understand why you marked the whole image and then subtracted the luminance. Why not just start with a luminance mask.

Excellent. Is it possible to save the final Orton Mask as preset, so that it can be applied to any photo quickly?

@achubenko

5 ай бұрын

I did so, saving just the selected mask and the global sharpening adjustments. Then just tweak the settings as needed when applying to another image.

This is gonna sound stupid, but the mask intersect with lumiance range can be found in Lightroom CC? I dont use classic and while they are similar, I've noticed some missing features or perhaps just things moved around that im not used to.

Just Awesome. One less reason to jump to PS.

How do you find the "Orton Effect' after you create it??

Hi Mark,I'm your avid fan. I can't find that feature in the old version of Lr..where can i download the latest version of lightroom for free?thanks

Good video. Please remember that not everyone uses a Mac (Re: Your reference to using the masking slider.)

could you save this as a preset ? Its a pity you can't stack presets in lightroom (yet).

People have been using the Norton effect for years. Although this way does feel like it mimics it to a certain degree, I don't feel like it fully did. Can we call it an orton effect still then?

I was hoping to see a Marc Adamus level of orton effect. haha

Can this process be realized in PS Camera Raw?