Truly Amazing Artifact - Baton Presented To Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz!

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  • @peterrabbit8467
    @peterrabbit8467 Жыл бұрын

    The blue cloth in the case represents the water the lighter cloth represents the sky and the baton is the submarine

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    How many innocent people did the nasi scum murder?

  • @davevansega1771

    @davevansega1771

    11 ай бұрын

    Yea,and where did you get that information from???????

  • @lo2990

    @lo2990

    10 ай бұрын

    Yeah no it’s just the favorite color of the old Air Force commander

  • @daniel_sc1024
    @daniel_sc1024 Жыл бұрын

    The reason Goering had two batons was because the first one was for when he was a generalfeldmarschall (field marshall). At the beginning of the war he was the only person actively holding that rank. In 1940, after the Battle of France, Hitler promoted a number of generals to field marshall, and promoted Goering to the newly created rank of reichsmarschall, which was senior to field marshall. New rank naturally comes with the new uniform and new baton.

  • @davidkermes376

    @davidkermes376

    Жыл бұрын

    goering was known for going overboard on personal adornment. he had a one of a kind "iron cross" with diamond clusters on it. it was so big that behind his back folks called it his cowbell.

  • @daniel_sc1024

    @daniel_sc1024

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkermes376 I remember one historian referring to his uniforms as "operatic." I have a book on Albert Speer's architectural designs, and his design for Goering palace in Berlin is equally bombastic, overblown.

  • @noah_hill

    @noah_hill

    Жыл бұрын

    He was a very interesting man, you could not call him fool as he was very intelligent and skilled, yet he would wear a toga,and go spear hunting

  • @colonelsmith7757

    @colonelsmith7757

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkermes376 There was never an Iron Cross created with diamonds on the actual cross. You are talking about the Grand Cross of the Iron Cross which was identical to the Knight's Cross but slightly larger. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Cross_of_the_Iron_Cross

  • @brianingle7535

    @brianingle7535

    Жыл бұрын

    One of his batons was in the infantry museum at Fort Moore (used to Benning). The also had this very large copy Mein Kampf that was autographed by Hitler. I toured the museum on my free weekend between basic and ait.

  • @brogeoti
    @brogeoti Жыл бұрын

    Goering's Reichsmarschall baton is in the USMA Museum at West Point, NY. I believe the shaft was white elephant ivory, not velvet-covered metal. The end caps incorporated platinum in the inscription banding and over 600 small diamonds. His first baton had a light blue velvet shaft covering, & it incorporated the air force Balkenkreuz symbols. Additionally, the end caps were inlaid with many small diamonds. It is now kept in the National Infantry Museum at Fort Benning, Georgia.

  • @breto7131

    @breto7131

    Жыл бұрын

    Great information thank you

  • @grayharker6271

    @grayharker6271

    Жыл бұрын

    As it should be!

  • @3-2bravo49

    @3-2bravo49

    Жыл бұрын

    I went to the infantry museum when it first opened. I had just graduated basic in fort Benning and it was open but wasn't completed yet. I've not been to many museums so it blew me away. I would love to go back. Some of my friends who were Kia have personalized bricks at the front. I would like to go pay my respects and go back to where it all started.

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet another fascinating waste of resources by the Nazis.

  • @Lerxstification

    @Lerxstification

    Жыл бұрын

    I want that for my birthday!

  • @FR33STyla72
    @FR33STyla72 Жыл бұрын

    I've handled the original at the Shropshire Regimental Museum, a truly beautiful piece and I was honoured to examine the baton. Btw, the original is NOT plated, the finials are solid gold and platinum. Also that copy is vastly inferior to the original.

  • @electron0002
    @electron0002 Жыл бұрын

    We have General Rommel one in our museum at the desert rats museum Norfolk UK

  • @jimrutherford2773
    @jimrutherford2773 Жыл бұрын

    It's not just a piece of history. It's an international treasure.

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet another fascinating waste of resources by the Nazis.

  • @GUMMETJE20045

    @GUMMETJE20045

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally not agree. International treasure yeah right. Just a stupid stick of a war criminal. Piece of history is correct but revere it as a treasure is totally bullocks.

  • @BillShartner

    @BillShartner

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a replica.

  • @jimrutherford2773

    @jimrutherford2773

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BillShartner yeah I know but it's still a treasure.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Get help...

  • @johnvaluk1401
    @johnvaluk1401 Жыл бұрын

    Late eighties went to West Point for the day and saw Gorings baton in their museum.

  • @hughmarloweverest1684
    @hughmarloweverest1684 Жыл бұрын

    15 years ago or so I acquired a 12 inch figure of Donitz in a pristine box, unopened, made by Tomato Hobby, Kowloon Hong Kong, 2004. It has accessories, including a scale model of his baton. I never show him off, and got the box down to look at it for the first time in a decade because of this video.

  • @flouisbailey

    @flouisbailey

    Жыл бұрын

    You have a collection of maybe one of a kind remaining. Ultimate action figure.😵‍💫

  • @victorpena3129

    @victorpena3129

    Жыл бұрын

    Ill pay you $50 bucks for it

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Enemy of America.

  • @rossbryan6102

    @rossbryan6102

    Жыл бұрын

    THEY WERE NICE TO LOOK AT AND WERE CERTAINLY A PRESTIGE ITEM TO THE OWNER, BUT WERE THE BATONS EVER IN A HOLSTER WHILE BEING USED?? A BIT OF INCONVENIENCE HAVING TO BE CARRIED IN HAND!

  • @stevepritchett6563

    @stevepritchett6563

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rossbryan6102 NO NEED TO SHOUT!

  • @verncommet1798
    @verncommet1798 Жыл бұрын

    Nice that it is going to someone with a personal connection and that you are able to let it go

  • @TempleBrickKnights
    @TempleBrickKnights Жыл бұрын

    This should go to a museum in Germany. Greetings from Lübeck (northern Germany)

  • @YorkshirePirate

    @YorkshirePirate

    7 ай бұрын

    Germany is still far too prissy about National Socialism for it be responsible for such artefacts. They'd end up melting it down or locking it away.

  • @kurutze
    @kurutze12 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this educating video and for the respectful way in which yoy have presented the baton and the person of Grand Admiral Dönitz. I am happy that this baton, a personal belonging of the Admiral, has fallen in good, respectful hands.

  • @countalma9800
    @countalma9800 Жыл бұрын

    The design of this baton is incredible.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Weirdo

  • @g.mtorsten3564

    @g.mtorsten3564

    11 ай бұрын

    The germans seem to have coped the design of the napoleonic era french "Marshals baton"

  • @dogegg22
    @dogegg22 Жыл бұрын

    The original baton is in the Soldiers of Shropshire Museum in Shrewsbury Castle, UK. Soldiers from the KSLI (Kings Shropshire Light Infantry) made up part of the arresting party in Flensburg, hence how the baton resides in their regimental museum. Over the years, the museum has had requests for the baton to be returned to the German Admiralty, other UK regimental museums, and of course, in exchange for undisclosed sums of money to a number of private collectors. The museum has naturally refused all offers and is proud to remain custodian of this remarkable, if sinister, piece of history.

  • @1998gst4611

    @1998gst4611

    Жыл бұрын

    Why didn't they let him keep the baton why would the allies confiscate it from him its not a weapon?

  • @Axteffekt

    @Axteffekt

    Жыл бұрын

    Sinister?

  • @dogegg22

    @dogegg22

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. It has an "aura" about it. I think anything with so much nazi symbolism and the connections with the nazi party holds a sinister feeling. May not have the same effect on everyone but many of the staff and volunteers at the museum comment on its ability to raise a shiver...

  • @dogegg22

    @dogegg22

    Жыл бұрын

    @@steiner554 I don't agree. There is nothing in the Geneva Convention, nor the Hague Convention, nor any other humanitarian law that prohibits taking of "movable enemy items" in the process of warfighting, and in order to prevent or restrict that enemy's ability to fight. The baton in the museum belonged to the enemy state, even if it was presented to Donitz. It has never been sold and was presented freely to the museum by and with consent of a representative of the British Army, Brig. Jack Churcher. Looting (or Pillaging) is prohibited but refers to taking of private property from civilians of that enemy state, or those inhabitants of the area of battle, or personal items legitimately owned by surrendered combatants, by private individuals, for personal gain - in other words, theft. Taking away the (movable) apparatus of war is the legitimate right of the victor in conflict.

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493

    @oliverstianhugaas7493

    Жыл бұрын

    Thief.

  • @ericcrawford1132
    @ericcrawford1132 Жыл бұрын

    I love how you are showing us an amazing Era in our history unfortunate but it will always be with us .

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe you’d like to buy osama bin ladens towel he wrapped around his head?

  • @SouthParkCows88
    @SouthParkCows88 Жыл бұрын

    The Laconia incident is a big reason why U-boats were told to leave crews in the water, that is so cool you going to give this to a friend and collector of Karl Dönitz!!

  • @davidkermes376

    @davidkermes376

    Жыл бұрын

    oh come now, as if a u-boat had any room for survivors. i don't recall reading of allied subs rescuing survivors either, and you can't hold it against them.

  • @SouthParkCows88

    @SouthParkCows88

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkermes376 usually they would radio red cross ships to pick them up.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkermes376 you are anti American

  • @motorrebell

    @motorrebell

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidkermes376 The Laconia incident was a series of events surrounding the sinking of a British passenger ship in the Atlantic Ocean on 12 September 1942, during World War II, and a subsequent aerial attack on German and Italian submarines involved in rescue attempts. RMS Laconia, carrying 2,732 crew, passengers, soldiers, and prisoners of war, was torpedoed and sunk by U-156, a German U-boat, off the West African coast. Operating partly under the dictates of the old prize rules, the U-boat's commander, Korvettenkapitän Werner Hartenstein, immediately commenced rescue operations. U-156 broadcast her position on open radio channels to all Allied powers nearby, and was joined by the crews of several other U-boats in the vicinity. After surfacing and picking up survivors, who were accommodated on the foredeck, U-156 headed on the surface under Red Cross banners to rendezvous with Vichy French ships and transfer the survivors. En route, the U-boat was spotted by a B-24 Liberator bomber of the US Army Air Forces. The aircrew, having reported the U-boat's location, declared intentions, and the presence of survivors, were then ordered to attack the sub. The B-24 killed dozens of Laconia's survivors with bombs and strafing attacks, forcing U-156 to cast into the sea the remaining survivors that she had rescued and crash dive to avoid being destroyed. Rescue operations were continued by other vessels. Another U-boat, U-506, was also attacked by US aircraft and forced to dive. A total of 976 to 1,083 people were eventually rescued; however, 1,658 to 1,757 were killed, mostly Italian POWs. The event changed the general attitude of Germany's naval personnel towards rescuing stranded Allied seamen. The commanders of the Kriegsmarine were quickly issued the Laconia Order by Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz, which specifically forbade any such attempt and ushered in unrestricted submarine warfare for the remainder of the war. The B-24 pilots mistakenly reported they had sunk U-156, and were awarded medals for bravery. Neither the US pilots nor their commander were punished or investigated, and the matter was quietly forgotten by the US military. During the later Nuremberg trials, a prosecutor attempted to cite the Laconia Order as proof of war crimes by Dönitz and his submariners. The ploy backfired, causing much embarrassment to the United States after the incident's full report had emerged to the public and the reason for the "Laconia order" was known.

  • @ixxxxxxx

    @ixxxxxxx

    11 ай бұрын

    @@motorrebell thank you so much for mentioning this for me in more detail than i ever couldve lol, i even learned a few things. just glad you brought up how uboats did attempt to rescue sailors, it just went horribly wrong

  • @SoulStealer702
    @SoulStealer702 Жыл бұрын

    I have been to the West Point Museum and I saw HG's Baton. Incredible workmanship.

  • @Love.life.ashigzoya
    @Love.life.ashigzoya Жыл бұрын

    Who doesnt know Karl Doenitz ? You are so lucky God bless his family and hail to Swastika a holy symbol in India . God bless U Boat surviving families . Thank you for this research Maj Gen veteran Indian .

  • @MyTv-
    @MyTv- Жыл бұрын

    Not even Liberace was so flamboyant as Göring! His second field Marshall staff was of course in ivory instead of velvet!

  • @rodwallace6237

    @rodwallace6237

    Жыл бұрын

    Some of his dress uniforms were downright campy. Powder blue is such a martial look.

  • @mitchstevenson893

    @mitchstevenson893

    Жыл бұрын

    Goring was a wounded WWI flying ace with several kills to his credit. He got addicted to morphine and warm champagne.

  • @lynnmcmullen3157
    @lynnmcmullen3157 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing, clearly well done work

  • @philtaylor1647
    @philtaylor1647 Жыл бұрын

    His men were very loyal to him

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    the dead ones too?

  • @fmayer1507
    @fmayer1507 Жыл бұрын

    Large and in charge. Wow! I like the phrase. Great video with lots of detail.

  • @dnf7778
    @dnf7778 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool!! look at that detail.

  • @danielwatson3985
    @danielwatson3985 Жыл бұрын

    Goering's first baton was presented to him when he was made a Field Marshal. The second was presented when he was made Reichsmarshal.

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet another fascinating waste of resources by the Nazis.

  • @Wilde.Hilde65

    @Wilde.Hilde65

    11 ай бұрын

    mon field marshall ☝️sig 210A / mod kombat

  • @jensenwilliam5434
    @jensenwilliam5434 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Tom and Randy!!!

  • @ashraf7242
    @ashraf724211 ай бұрын

    So interesting, this is a true historical treasure

  • @johanvanbeek7138
    @johanvanbeek7138 Жыл бұрын

    Super cool that his men did this for him!

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    Жыл бұрын

    Super ego

  • @koolaidblack7697

    @koolaidblack7697

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kbanghart Obsessed.

  • @RazorsharpLT

    @RazorsharpLT

    10 ай бұрын

    @@koolaidblack7697 people value loyalty The fact to how the regular soldier was treated after the war would you expect them NOT to stick together?

  • @PeterSt1954
    @PeterSt1954 Жыл бұрын

    In 17C England such batons had the order of the army a commander was in charge of written (inscribed? embossed?) on them and so was a general's ready reference for who was who.

  • @Maddriver371
    @Maddriver371 Жыл бұрын

    The Germans head two types of batons: Interimstab (field service baton), lighter and thinner baton. And the one you are showing right know. The baton from Göring was made from white elephant ivory.

  • @mattsmith3118
    @mattsmith3118 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible, I love this channel

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning Жыл бұрын

    Always an outstanding video and presentation.

  • @g54b95
    @g54b95 Жыл бұрын

    This was really neat. Thanks, Tom!

  • @ad3mn
    @ad3mn Жыл бұрын

    On the Wittman Antique channel, he also showcased 2 batons. (video: WAM Show Journal - February 2020 OVMS Show of Shows from 47:40) Amazing pieces.

  • @jeffrodebaugh8314
    @jeffrodebaugh8314 Жыл бұрын

    Adjusting for inflation, $130,000 in 1940 is 2.8 million in 2023. That’s an expensive baton!

  • @k1ngp1n66
    @k1ngp1n66 Жыл бұрын

    The second diamond encrusted baton is located inside of the National Infantry Museum at Fort Benning, Georgia. I saw it in person about 4 years ago when I went to visit my son there during his time in basic training. I also have a picture of the baton that I am looking at right now. The plaque under the baton reads as follows. "With great pomp and ceremony, Adolf Hitler presented this diamond encrusted baton to Field Marshal General of the Air Force, Hermann Goering in February, 1938."

  • @nightwish1000

    @nightwish1000

    Жыл бұрын

    I doubt a bit about the inscription. What is the German text please?

  • @Lerxstification
    @Lerxstification Жыл бұрын

    Excellent! My grandpa told me that Goering's baton actually had a removable (screwable?) top piece, and that the inside was hollow. That is where Hermann would keep his heroin kit and pills.

  • @BesoffenerIslamist

    @BesoffenerIslamist

    11 ай бұрын

    did your grandpa lied often?

  • @snakeplissken571
    @snakeplissken571 Жыл бұрын

    Really decent of his men to do that for him they obviously respected him.That is a treasure.Todays german navy should buy it and put it in their head quarters.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    You are delusional.

  • @Harte74

    @Harte74

    11 ай бұрын

    Germany should go for the original.

  • @snakeplissken571

    @snakeplissken571

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Harte74 britain will never give back all the artifacts they stole for example the best selection of egyption artifacts in the world is in the royal museum in london.

  • @Harte74

    @Harte74

    11 ай бұрын

    @@snakeplissken571, sadly no. Getting stolen artifacts back to their original owner is something they did against the losers of conflicts. I imagine that there's a LOT of artifacts taken/stolen by the Allies during and after WW2.

  • @snakeplissken571

    @snakeplissken571

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Harte74 just because the did it doesn't make it right.Thanks to immigration soon england will be islamic maby english artifacts will end up in some museum in saudi Arabia or Afghanistan what goes around comes around

  • @daveblackburn5393
    @daveblackburn5393 Жыл бұрын

    Love your tube channel. U have a lot of cool videos that u show not only that u give a lot of history which is awesome. Keep the videos coming and thanks for all the cool history. Keep up the good work. Thank you respectfully Dave blackburn

  • @mscorrell
    @mscorrell Жыл бұрын

    Goring loved his baton and even had crossed batons on his uniform collar.

  • @tiagomonteiro130

    @tiagomonteiro130

    4 ай бұрын

    That's the rank not his love for it, field marshals had batons on their uniforms to show their rank, that goes for every military with the marshal rank.

  • @MrMuppetbaby
    @MrMuppetbaby Жыл бұрын

    A fascinating item and story out of history and brought to life as ONLY Tom can do. If Tom decided to teach history I would be first in line. Thanks so much for another amazing video and a "gee, I didn't know that" moment. For a minute I thought maybe something from the movie National Treasure might pop out from inside...... Tod in Vegas :)

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Nasi sympathizers.

  • @eloygagogonzalez7330
    @eloygagogonzalez7330 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful!!

  • @jtgall1

    @jtgall1

    Жыл бұрын

    Goring looks like Liberace with all that ostentatious crap he wore, very flamboyant. Keep it simple like Herr Hitler himself or Frederick the Great.

  • @jacknapier9026
    @jacknapier9026 Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Baton💯

  • @DaGahbageMan
    @DaGahbageMan Жыл бұрын

    Thought I'd just check this out real quick. Stayed for the whole thing.💯

  • @CORPORAL-dn7nn
    @CORPORAL-dn7nn Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic!!

  • @tjittekamminga5170
    @tjittekamminga517010 ай бұрын

    super (and also moving)

  • @gutierfa
    @gutierfa Жыл бұрын

    A sepulcher, also spelled "sepulchre," is a noun that refers to a burial vault or tomb, typically an elaborate and monumental structure. It is used to house the remains of deceased individuals or to serve as a memorial for the departed. Sepulchers are often found in cemeteries, churches, or other sacred places and can vary in size, design, and architectural style depending on cultural and historical contexts.

  • @hermittao
    @hermittao Жыл бұрын

    Any idea if Hitler sent Paulus a baton when he made Paulus a Field Marshal, at Stalingrad? If Paulus got a baton, I suppose the Russians have it. "On 30 January, Friedrich Paulus informed Hitler that his men were only hours from collapse. Hitler responded by showering a raft of field promotions by radio on Paulus' officers to build up their spirits and bolster their will to hold their ground. Most significantly, he promoted Paulus to field marshal. In deciding to promote him, Hitler noted that there was no known record of a Prussian or German field marshal ever having surrendered. The implication was clear: Paulus was to commit suicide. Hitler implied that if Paulus allowed himself to be taken alive, he would shame Germany's military history.". - Wikipedia

  • @michaelharrison8036

    @michaelharrison8036

    Жыл бұрын

    Paulus, Robert Ritter Von Greim and Ferdinand Schoerner all did not receive Field Marshal's batons due to the lateness of the war; plus, of course, Paulus was at Stalingrad, but the Red Cross did, apparently, send him the shoulder insignia while he was in captivity.

  • @JFKismyhusband_
    @JFKismyhusband_10 ай бұрын

    Wow! That’s so incredible

  • @njdevilaje3879
    @njdevilaje3879 Жыл бұрын

    Great video great information. Thank you!

  • @marcomoreno9979
    @marcomoreno997910 ай бұрын

    Wow, truly incredible.

  • @SimonTBam
    @SimonTBam Жыл бұрын

    Donitz blamed Albert Speer for his appointment as Reiches President, and it was the fact that he was appointed as Head of State that got him time in jail more than his actions. His main prolongation of the war was primarily to help Germans trapped in the lost territories such East Prussia, Pommerania, and Silesia to escape to the West rather than surrendering to the Russians. Donitz was always saluted by sailors in Germany's post war Naval force and indeed many Naval Officers ignored official orders either not to attend Donitz's funeral and certainly not in uniform and attended in full dress uniform.

  • @walterwarberg1425
    @walterwarberg1425 Жыл бұрын

    True loyalty of great men.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    stupid sycophantic criminals...

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism Жыл бұрын

    He never once broke the rules of the Geneva convention. The u boat menace was the one thing that kept Churchill up at night during the war. I think that was sufficient for him to receive the prison sentence. Is the original supposed to contain his commission inside?

  • @imilliemedina666

    @imilliemedina666

    10 ай бұрын

    Nonsense. He ordered the sinking of civilian ships carrying women and children. He was a war criminal.

  • @DavidRamirez-ww5kv
    @DavidRamirez-ww5kv Жыл бұрын

    Cool story. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ae1586
    @ae1586 Жыл бұрын

    Donitz was an honorable man and a military man at heart. He wanted what was best for germany . He was rational and capable . It is sad that military men who did not commit war crimes were imprisoned after the war - my great grandfather was imprisoned in a Russian salt mine until 1949 . He had been a German veteran of ww1 and a German police officer in Berlin before the war . When the war broke out he was inducted into the SS Polizei and stationed in Prague . He sent my grandmother out of the country with all of their gold and silver coinage (and other valuables) knowing that it would still be spendable . I still have my great grandfathers totenkopf ring. He lived until 1979 - he met my grandfather (first sergeant in the 16th constabulary during the Berlin airlift who married my oma) many of his possessions survived the war as their home on the rhine river had a basement that provided some protection from the bombing . When he was released he rebuilt his home and lived out his days collecting his pension from his pre ww2 service .

  • @michaelharrison8036
    @michaelharrison8036 Жыл бұрын

    That was a great video, thanks! I always wondered about Goring's baton, because ivory usually turns yellow with age or cracks. I often suspect it was made of a plastic like galalith or trolon, stuff that the German chemists had been making and the armaments industry were using in dagger and sword handles and grips.

  • @fernandoscrenci4874
    @fernandoscrenci4874 Жыл бұрын

    History is history !!!

  • @Chris_GY1
    @Chris_GY1 Жыл бұрын

    The real one is in the military museum at Shrewsbury Castle, Shropshire, England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 I saw it a few weeks ago.

  • @willis2492
    @willis2492 Жыл бұрын

    It’s at Shrewsbury Castle museum in Shrewsbury, Shropshire and it was the kings, Shropshire Light Infantry that took his surrender

  • @davetherave28
    @davetherave28 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Tom, excellent video !! Just a side note regards the original baton being held in a "British museum"- This is absoloutely true, but I think it's worth mentioning that the location is at the "Soldiers of Shropshire Museum" based at Shrewsbury Castle in Shropshire, England. KD's capture and guard after his surrender was the responsibility of the King's Shropshire Light Infantry, a historical British Infantry regiment that existed between the years 1881-1968. A proud honour for the County Regiment and an important artefact in their collection of mess silverwares and historical trophies.

  • @HerrKurt

    @HerrKurt

    11 ай бұрын

    True...tom just got it as reproduction fake one not original

  • @arvalb0

    @arvalb0

    10 ай бұрын

    Avrage British museum, only british thing is the people.

  • @t.wcharles2171

    @t.wcharles2171

    10 ай бұрын

    @@HerrKurt it's a post war copy given to the admiral to replace the genuine one.

  • @kingjoe3rd
    @kingjoe3rd Жыл бұрын

    Goering's "greenish tinted" baton was actually from being a Generalfieldmarshall in the Luftwaffe and his white baton was for being what was called a Reichsmarshall which was another rank that was made, that only he held, that gave him seniority and authority over all the other Field Marshalls and Grand Admirals.

  • @pedromanuellopez142

    @pedromanuellopez142

    Жыл бұрын

    ....would that make him the equivalent of the chief of the joint chiefs of staff, but Hugo Boss uniforms?

  • @ChicagoDB

    @ChicagoDB

    11 ай бұрын

    Somewhat akin to Blackjack Pershing’s final rank…essentially the only “Six Star” General. He only wore 5…but his were Gold…not silver.

  • @aliasinternal9078
    @aliasinternal9078 Жыл бұрын

    There is an anectode about re - implementation of the marshal batons in Prussia. After 1806 ( end of holy roman empire ) , no more batons were given to the german field marshals. When Wellington died in 1852, it was found , that he woud be buried with his british marshal baton. Since he was also an honorable prussian field marshal, a baton was quickly fabricated and thrown into his coffin before burial. With that, marshal batons became a part of the Prussian tradition, again.

  • @asheland_numismatics
    @asheland_numismatics Жыл бұрын

    Very cool piece! Interesting video!

  • @joseo.5721
    @joseo.5721 Жыл бұрын

    Its beautiful !!

  • @joelonzello4189
    @joelonzello418910 ай бұрын

    Great Piece ! Keep an eye out for a bigger box containing the Stern Eagle of the Graf Spee 😉

  • @jakethejackalope3473
    @jakethejackalope3473 Жыл бұрын

    Posted for historical reference as Batons not often seen.

  • @csaint6780
    @csaint67802 ай бұрын

    That is Cool!!! thanx for posting this video!!

  • @viewfromrowb
    @viewfromrowb Жыл бұрын

    Yes, Goerring does have a Baton at the US Infantry Museum in Fort Benning

  • @mabbrey
    @mabbrey Жыл бұрын

    well done tom

  • @tommytaylor4458
    @tommytaylor4458 Жыл бұрын

    Awsome!!!

  • @heartofoak45
    @heartofoak45 Жыл бұрын

    Magnificent workmanship. As an aside, like thousands of other people, The Grand Admiral lost his son on active service in the U Boat Service.

  • @kimoandrews5802

    @kimoandrews5802

    Жыл бұрын

    Good. Score one for the allies.

  • @yorkan213swd6

    @yorkan213swd6

    Жыл бұрын

    Approximately 30,000 men died under Dönitz's command. See Wkipedia entry.

  • @t37able45

    @t37able45

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kimoandrews5802 In vietnam

  • @patricktheplumber5482
    @patricktheplumber5482 Жыл бұрын

    Wow !!! Amazing

  • @dk18141
    @dk18141 Жыл бұрын

    That should be in a museum! Even more important then the original!

  • @robertburkland9659
    @robertburkland9659 Жыл бұрын

    That was really interesting. Think of that things "second story?" By that, I mean because it is a copy that was it's first. The people and craftsmanship behind it. Even though we know the bad things it represents. But just be amazed at what talented people can create.

  • @bernardlane2871
    @bernardlane2871 Жыл бұрын

    My great uncle, Hugh Thomas, was the officer who took the baton from Karl Donitz, unfortunately his commanding officer took it from him and subsequently donated it to a museum .

  • @colonelsmith7757

    @colonelsmith7757

    Жыл бұрын

    Better in a museum than collecting dust in some attic, although it would be preferable if it was in the hands of the Dönitz family.

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493

    @oliverstianhugaas7493

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colonelsmith7757 absolutely, banditry should not be allowed even if you are the victor.

  • @stevepritchett6563

    @stevepritchett6563

    Жыл бұрын

    Not unfortunate at all, it belongs in a museum and not being sold to the highest bidder.

  • @BesoffenerIslamist

    @BesoffenerIslamist

    11 ай бұрын

    So, your "dear" great uncle was a looter? How nice.

  • @simonl.7487
    @simonl.748711 ай бұрын

    Fun Fact: A replacement Baton made for Dönitz during the war is now in the U-Boot Archiv in Cuxhaven, Germany

  • @lorimeyers3839
    @lorimeyers3839 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I don’t know much about Marshall’s batons, the history behind them and whatnot. I’ve seen archival footage of Manstein and others waving their batons, saluting Hitler with them. Would be an interesting video to watch on the topic.

  • @bcd3509
    @bcd3509 Жыл бұрын

    @11:25 just so you know, the typical type 7 U-Boat was a pretty small and extremely cramped vessel. There was barely enough room for the crew members. Troop ships commonly carried thousands of men. There would be no way to load the thousands of men from the sunken troopship onto the U-boat.

  • @Harte74

    @Harte74

    11 ай бұрын

    Besides, a German uboot sank a troop transport in the Mediterranean in the first half of the war, that sub began to tow a line of life boats, signalling on an open channel, that they were towing those survivors and under Red Cross flag. Even with all that, an american bomber still attacked the German sub, and after that, the German sub commanders were no longer allowed to try to rescue survivors. A scene from Das Boot also clearly shows what you're saying. The kaleun refuses to take the survivors from the tanker, telling the war correspondant, leutnant Werner, that there's almost no space as it is, so it would be impossible to take on survivors.

  • @kieronjones5460
    @kieronjones5460 Жыл бұрын

    Love it!

  • @shellsbignumber2
    @shellsbignumber2 Жыл бұрын

    Goering's baton must be worth several million in todays market.

  • @Youngstown529
    @Youngstown52910 ай бұрын

    I need one of those for staff meetings.

  • @kosmonautofficial296
    @kosmonautofficial29610 ай бұрын

    Wow that is very cool!

  • @kenellis6575
    @kenellis6575 Жыл бұрын

    An old British saying ,goes thus, “In every soldier’s nap sack,there’s a Field Marshal’s Baton” only one British soldier ever, has risen to that exalted rank.

  • @RustyPetterson

    @RustyPetterson

    Жыл бұрын

    Sir William Robertson!

  • @werre2
    @werre2 Жыл бұрын

    Dönitz was a superhero and a gentleman

  • @frankwurth5375

    @frankwurth5375

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe, but he was still responsible for unlimited warfare on civilian passenger and cargo shipping. To the commander also goes the blame! He's damn lucky he wasn't hanged for his participation in Hitler's war on humanity. Goring did about the same and was condemed to hanging, he comitted suicide to cheat the hangman. The true Heroes of the German Army are the ones Hitler ordered executed when they refused his command orders.

  • @jimrutherford2773

    @jimrutherford2773

    Жыл бұрын

    We must remember with most of these high German officers. They are warriors first. Their party affiliation was a distant second even in their own eyes.

  • @harryhanz1690

    @harryhanz1690

    Жыл бұрын

    Boolshiat. Doenitz was a fanatical Nazi through and through.

  • @theblaststudio

    @theblaststudio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimrutherford2773 Donitz was a convinced and fanatical National Socialist

  • @grayharker6271

    @grayharker6271

    Жыл бұрын

    Please go to the merchant mariners museum at Kings Point NY and tell them that!!!

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer8989 Жыл бұрын

    My WW2 Museum near Boston had a Dönitz replica baton. They surface at auctions for $30-40k from time to time. Unfortunately, our museum is closed, and the artifacts are in a warehouse next to the Arc of the Covenant.

  • @michaelharrison8036

    @michaelharrison8036

    Жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @reubensandwich9249

    @reubensandwich9249

    11 ай бұрын

    There are top men working on it right now.

  • @tehjamerz
    @tehjamerz11 ай бұрын

    Amazing.

  • @petergriffin383
    @petergriffin3833 ай бұрын

    Imagine giving a man a gift like this who sent the majority of his men to the bottom of ocean. I think out 35,000 men in the uboat fleet, only 5,000 survived the war.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 Жыл бұрын

    just wow

  • @charlesg5085
    @charlesg5085 Жыл бұрын

    This guy just about wets himself over anything Nazi. He loooooves that stuff. He looooves that philosophy.

  • @whatdatechnodogedoin

    @whatdatechnodogedoin

    Жыл бұрын

    This is his only video that's directly related to Nazis lmao. Dafuq are you on? Just because guns were developed during the Nazi's rule doesn't mean they were Nazi. A lot of those companies still exist today or existed way after the Nazis were defeated, so are they Nazi? Just because you're interested in the items of Nazis doesn't make you a sympathizer for their philosophy. Remember the de-nazisifcation destroyed a lot of these and very few exist that are still directly related to them today. These today are considered artifacts.

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom.... Shoe🇺🇸

  • @stevenmcquaid5696
    @stevenmcquaid569611 ай бұрын

    Class act.

  • @t.wcharles2171
    @t.wcharles2171 Жыл бұрын

    Doenitz had two batons made plus one for him this is the plus one the second which he used more was captured by the men of the KSLI in Flensburg and is to this day held in the regimental museum in Shrewsbury Castle. The fate of the first I am unsure

  • @Luftwaffe1935
    @Luftwaffe1935 Жыл бұрын

    You were wrong about the u boats not helping the ships they sank. They did mostly till a u boat was attacked pulling 4 life boats to safety. A British plane attacked the sub even though they seen the life boats were attached. So they cut the lifeboats and were able to submerge after that an order was given not to save anybody but to shoot them so they cannot report the U-boat. Can't say for sure if this was an order given about saving people in lifeboats. But I do know there was an order given to no longer give save them after the British ship shot at them. Great piece of history and great show thanks.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @jamesfahey4508
    @jamesfahey4508 Жыл бұрын

    A few clarifications... Fuhrer was the combined offices of President and Chancellor (Prime Minister). Hitler split these offices for his successors. Donitz became President, and Goebbels became Chancellor. Batons were awarded to anyone reaching a 5-star rank. Goring received two batons, with the latter being much more ornate than the first, in recognition of two separate promotions; to 5-star in 1938, and 6-star in 1940. Goring was thus the highest ranking military officer in Germany, above all other members of the Wehrmacht (army, navy and air force) and the SS.

  • @TurfSurf
    @TurfSurf Жыл бұрын

    Amazing item!

  • @simonjones6128
    @simonjones6128 Жыл бұрын

    Nice one Tom

  • @jeffreyoldham55
    @jeffreyoldham55 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this remarkable relic with us. Question: The German U-Boat flying the American flag at 11:18 - is that the U505?

  • @oldgrumpy4601

    @oldgrumpy4601

    10 ай бұрын

    It appears to be the same photo in the Wikipedia article on U-505

  • @6omega2
    @6omega2 Жыл бұрын

    Of course Goering would insist that HIS baton be more "special" than anyone else's, right? LOL! Also, as regards the ones found by the American soldiers of the 101st at Berchtesgaden, there's a picture you can probably find on the Internet of one of the soldiers who found one. He was a private - just a kid - and the story goes he found it in a box under a bed. The photo shows him holding it up, showing it to an American colonel. That's one lucky private, to score THAT war trophy!

  • @oceanhome2023
    @oceanhome2023 Жыл бұрын

    They had many Reunions even though 3/4 of the personnel were already KIA !

  • @brian2913
    @brian2913 Жыл бұрын

    If you look at the one in the museum (6:02) the rows face in different directions, and in the copy, they are all in the same orientation.

  • @dolltall
    @dolltall Жыл бұрын

    Ohhhh my

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