True Temperament Frets Explained By A Music Doctor

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The Strandberg Experiment Episode 4, I explain true temperament frets and discuss whether or not they are worth purchasing. I'm testing them on my Strandberg Nx 7 string true temperament.
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Temperaments explained
3:25 Summary for non musicians
4:18 True Temperament Explained
5:40 Test 1
6:33 Test 2
8:23 Test 3
9:44 Test 4
11:33 my Thoughts
15:40 Worth The Price?
17:43 more Sustain?
18:52 Polishing frets
19:31 True tempered in all keys?
20:28 Bends and vibrato
20:58 Special Tuning process
21:33 Do things sound weird?
22:05 Two Guitars Together
23:14 Only 1 tuning
23:43 Bonus Metal
24:55 Tapping
25:28 More tests

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  • @andrefludd
    @andrefludd Жыл бұрын

    Checkout My best-selling teach-yourself course: www.andrefludd.com/one-course-to-make-you-intermediate Disclaimer! This is not academic or peer-reviewed research! I've cut many details and simplified certain parts to keep the format fun and a "reasonable" length. Also, if for some ungodly reason, you make it to around the 27:40 mark, there is an error with the last 2 test examples.

  • @metalosaur

    @metalosaur

    Жыл бұрын

    A440 has nothing to do with equal temperament or temperament at all - it is a pitch. From A440 you can tune into whatever temperament you want. The only purpose of A440 standard is to make sure that instruments in a band/orchestra are not out of tune relatively to each other disregards of the temperament they use.

  • @louiscyfer6944

    @louiscyfer6944

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metalosaur the frequency of a also changed throughout history. it was as low as 416 and went above 440. conductors still choose different a's for their orchestras.

  • @bullheadshitface2023

    @bullheadshitface2023

    Жыл бұрын

    To be entirely honest, I kinda like the slightly out of tune dissonance/beading that comes from the "non-true temperment," it feels like part of the character. Your true temperment chord, and other instances of true temperment that I have heard almost sound too good to be true, and maybe a bit uncanny. Like hearing overproduced deathcore/deathmetal, where it sounds like the aggression in the playing of instrument kinda disappears Maybe it comes from listening to ALOT of extreme music and becoming accustomed to dissonance as a tool to amplify a heavy riff or passage in the song. After so long of that, I started to find a strong beauty in the dissonance, which started my love for some jazz, and other music. Then again, it might just be another stage of understanding/enjoying music. ETA: this video was pretty awesome! Thank you for uploading this! Will also add, true temperment for ambient absolutely makes sense

  • @mouthfulacoque3580

    @mouthfulacoque3580

    Жыл бұрын

    bro. math does not need a peer review. Set your pickup and action height to the same specifications as is humanly possible and you have a solid reference. Use an oscilloscope and you've done your due diligence. I respect and admire what you're doing.

  • @zAvAvAz

    @zAvAvAz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@metalosaur Yeah except if C remains the appointed frequency it is all out of tune in any instrument. 440 as A does not result in all frequencies being whole number. 441 hz does not necessarily as 'A' . Everyone wants to know what throws everything off, it is this = A as 440 when C is a fixed frequency that doesn't move with what A should be. for example if 'A' were 432 hz, then C in SOME places would be 252 hz, and the places it is not, are not meant to be 252 hz, they are meant to be other frequency, because for all pitches the locked physical ratios of frets placed by the 12th square root of 2 is precisely the frequency required to be used together with all of the other precisely fretted ratios, they are correct! Try your ears, all the notes are heard without cancelling, all the overtones, all the harmonics atomizing in your ears. Its beautifuL. Try it. the mistake is to keep C as a certain frequency whilst changing A as a frequency, their distance must be the exact place it needs to be to match 20 EDO, then the 12 notes come alive. i spent years and years everyday with scrolls of math by hand 20 feet in length and all frequency mapped out on the floor with frequency players and measuring software and gigging musical hardware alike to figure all this out and understand why colleges and the world at large has such a problem understanding or finding it. The distance of A and C are based on even intervals numbering higher than twelve notes based on the distances between all notes. 12th square of 2 is 12 notes of 20 edo. and have all keys of all edos contained within them, that is why the frequencies swap out for better sounding frequencies but they swip swap and exchange in all the correct places all whole number frequencies and NOt any wolf tones. all harmonics and overtones jumping out perfectly, with clarity, loudness, and fullness of tone and brightness. i am a guitar luthier and guitar designer. You shall not ever have a problem chording in any key after finding it. And it is not sellable because i am own it. i am that i am and i am dictate all things. i am and where i am is the kingdom also.

  • @davidcookemusic2968
    @davidcookemusic2968 Жыл бұрын

    I've been playing guitar for over 40 years and I found a simple solution to the tonal variations of standard frets and tuning. If you make enough mistakes, the rest of the notes sound pretty good by comparison. Then if you sing like a donkey sitting on a hornets nest nobody can hear your mistakes, or poor tone. Epic win! Flawless victory! Of course my channel view count might be a clue that this is generally not a strategy other people want to hear. Luddites.

  • @hk-4738

    @hk-4738

    9 ай бұрын

    Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of music?

  • @E_-_-

    @E_-_-

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I almost bought a true tempered guitar, but this comment convinced me to try a different, more tried and true approach

  • @IgneelS11

    @IgneelS11

    5 ай бұрын

    thats basically black metal.

  • @Mojojojoe
    @Mojojojoe Жыл бұрын

    It's funny, I recognised TT in most of the samples but I've been conditioned enough on normal frets that they sound more natural and better to me. This might have ended my GAS for a TT fretted guitar. Very informative video!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @MisterRorschach90

    @MisterRorschach90

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m the end if we were all rolling in unlimited money nothing could actually over power gas. Lol

  • @Mojojojoe

    @Mojojojoe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MisterRorschach90 very true!

  • @michaelkramer9014

    @michaelkramer9014

    Жыл бұрын

    I got 4 out of 5 but they were all the non TT instrument, to me the TT instrument sounded incorrect I definitely would say that's because of 30 years of playing guitar and having a re-enforced sound in my head of what the note intervals sound like together even if they are further away from true temperament

  • @mihailmilev9909

    @mihailmilev9909

    Жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkramer9014 I see. Thanks for sharing!

  • @gustavomazonave8536
    @gustavomazonave8536 Жыл бұрын

    Your dedication to these analysis is crazy! Very underated channel.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @jaimehernandez5883

    @jaimehernandez5883

    Жыл бұрын

    This video is exactly what I needed. Great channel, love the guitar-hero looking guitar in all your backgrounds.

  • @enterprisesoftwarearchitect

    @enterprisesoftwarearchitect

    Жыл бұрын

    Subscribed!!!!!

  • @deadrituals
    @deadrituals Жыл бұрын

    It’s interesting that you talk about your solution of using a vibrato to mask pitch inconsistencies - In studio work we often double track guitars or use subtle modulation like chorus, partly to make up for the guitar’s natural pitch inconsistencies, kind of in the same fashion!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly the same idea!

  • @Barbro247

    @Barbro247

    Жыл бұрын

    You should never try to take away from the inconsistencies aka dynamics. Modern rock and metal sucks largely due to the studious having absolutely zero clue on what a great sound is.

  • @mongarcia9151

    @mongarcia9151

    Жыл бұрын

    We do this in classical guitar. On higher frets sometimes the notes sound a bit off so it is recommended to use vibrato on such notes.

  • @PhaythGaming

    @PhaythGaming

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Barbro247I mean but modern metal is sick though so idk what you’re on.

  • @chrisw5742

    @chrisw5742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PhaythGaming modern thrash is killing it.

  • @lucasalessi6271
    @lucasalessi6271 Жыл бұрын

    The quality of your content is simply astounding and as a 20 year old musician from argentina you inspire me to chase my musical education simply by making these awesome videos . Keep at it man

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :). It takes a lot of time. I'm glad you notice.

  • @idiotburns
    @idiotburns Жыл бұрын

    I am so excited I found your channel after 25 years of guitar research online, your channel is a gem

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @joeydego2
    @joeydego2 Жыл бұрын

    What an absolute pleasure stumbling on a channel that is produced but not overly produced from an author who is clearly not an idiot. Subscribed and will definitely follow more content.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @joshuagavaghan224
    @joshuagavaghan224 Жыл бұрын

    "You'd have to buy a guitar for each key, which prolly wouldn't bother most guitarists anyway since we love buying lots of gear" Best point here

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify8 ай бұрын

    Having the strings as low as possible without buzz and the neck as straight as possible (only minimal relief) helps with intonation...

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp582 ай бұрын

    The most groundbreaking development in guitar construction I’ve ever come across.

  • @Guitar-U
    @Guitar-U Жыл бұрын

    Your narration is so concise. I love this topic as well. This is the most in depth examination anyone has posted on TT. Thank you!

  • @mempo77
    @mempo77 Жыл бұрын

    Possibly your best so far to my ears. I really enjoyed this, both content and format - highly appreciate the effort and dedication, thank you!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @costinnovac6092
    @costinnovac6092 Жыл бұрын

    An A+ from me for this explanatory video. Finally someone that touch this topic. Excellent that you don't put a ton of EQs and compression for audio examples and let it as raw as possible.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help!

  • @kyle_wagner_music
    @kyle_wagner_music Жыл бұрын

    Love the deep dive into this topic. I've always wondered about how those squiggly frets would affect sound and playing. Thanks for this thoughtful (and thought-provoking) explanation and comparison of the TT vs standard necks!

  • @willhunt7355
    @willhunt7355 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed Andre's presentation and playing immensely..! Subscribed!

  • @johndwilliford
    @johndwilliford7 ай бұрын

    Wow! Thank you for such an in-depth and thorough explanation.

  • @jeffhampton6972
    @jeffhampton6972 Жыл бұрын

    This is so informative to watch! Thank you so much for putting the time into this, it answered questions I didn't even think of, and I really appreciate it. :D

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @chrisrussoroos6091
    @chrisrussoroos6091 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you- so well taught and enjoyable. Needed to hear it well condensed like u presented. 👍🎸

  • @dj_tmc
    @dj_tmc Жыл бұрын

    Great test and all my questions answered!

  • @ericmork630
    @ericmork630 Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I found this channel. I discovered it when I came across the video about you giving up analog. I discovered it a bit too late to save me from these clunky tube amps that I can't bring myself to get rid of. But I found it just in time to watch this video and prevent me from investing in one of these instruments. The way you presented it definitely kept me from making yet another costly purchase that wouldn't really benefit me much.

  • @rmperine
    @rmperine Жыл бұрын

    Andre, well constructed video with excellent content and academic polish.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @anthonyglennmollicasr.425
    @anthonyglennmollicasr.425 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Andre! Nicely done, taught me a lot :)

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @ZL1LoVeR
    @ZL1LoVeR Жыл бұрын

    This is so well explained I learned so much! Thank you for this 🙏🏽

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @justutlilizelevers
    @justutlilizelevers Жыл бұрын

    The tapping was magnificent ! Wow 🔥!

  • @peaceofvideo
    @peaceofvideo Жыл бұрын

    I have had these burning questions for years. Thank you SO MUCH for not only giving extremely detailed information but for being so clear with how you explain! Earned yourself a subscriber 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Any time!

  • @gleb_guitarist
    @gleb_guitarist Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for such a detailed analysis. Very interesting

  • @RobertJones-rd5wl
    @RobertJones-rd5wl11 ай бұрын

    Excellent explanation, thank you!

  • @Xirrious
    @Xirrious Жыл бұрын

    Hey Andre, great content. Your channel is gonna blow up, you make unique stuff and you're knowledgeable. I'm gonna sub.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @lunamatic9775
    @lunamatic9775 Жыл бұрын

    This was incredible and stuff I've never gotten into before. Completely fascinating. The tests at the end were great, but as pleasing as the TT version sounded in almost every case, I couldn't help but think the other version sounded more typically guitar-like to me--slightly off and a bit more like how it would sound live in my mind. I don't think I'd ever be able to tell if TT is used or not if it's mixed in with a band. As always, your hard work shows through in each video.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the support :)

  • @MakeWeirdMusic
    @MakeWeirdMusic Жыл бұрын

    This was so good. Great work Andre

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @berndkiltz
    @berndkiltz Жыл бұрын

    Best Video on the subject by far!

  • @Rex-golf_player810
    @Rex-golf_player810 Жыл бұрын

    This is a very good video to explain these frets and also to disambiguate between true temperament and just intonation

  • @thomlind1428
    @thomlind1428 Жыл бұрын

    Easy to spot in all examples. I have 3 TT neck guitars and can never go back. The only problem is when getting used to it, at my ears gotten so sensitive that I have to keep it in perfect tuning and even adjust how hard to press each string in different chords.

  • @mysteryloaf
    @mysteryloaf Жыл бұрын

    REALLY appreciate th e first 6 minutes of this video. You really nailed the explanation of temperament as relevant to modern guitar playing, the analogies of Just James and Equal Emily were helpful, and I REALLY appreciate the explanation of the goal of the true temperament system. And I ABSOLUTELY hear the gently improved intonation in your first set of A/B samples, especially since I use a compressor for my youtube audio, and any "beating" or "warbling" or "pulsing" of slightly out-of-tune intervals becomes really really apparent. Also I'm surprised how similar the Fishman and Suhr pickups sound to each other with the settings/hand techniques you use. Lastly, I REALLY appreciate your comments about "audience/musician perception" and point out how important the emotional component of performance really can be. Extremely well-constructed video!!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I pretty much sound exactly the same no matter the guitar or rig lol I think I subconsciously play slightly differently to sound like me after a couple seconds of hearing a new guitar.

  • @mysteryloaf

    @mysteryloaf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrefludd That makes a lot of sense for a musicain who spends a lot of time with the instrument. Then the tone comes from your body, not the guitar. Brief tangent: reminds me of my drum teacher when we approached swing drumming. Ideally, "swing" comes from your body, not the sticks or the cymbal. If you want the gig, you want to be able to swing with fork on a napkin at a diner table. 🤣I tried to take that to heart.

  • @PlaneTShakeRo
    @PlaneTShakeRo Жыл бұрын

    What I find fascinating is that in test 3, the true temperament guitar seemed to me to break up the amp more because the frequencies were aligned better and thus they amplify each other. Thank you for this material. I was looking into TT for some time now. I laughed at the TT Freebird.

  • @timlist1178
    @timlist1178 Жыл бұрын

    Good content. Presented very clearly. Keep it up, your channel will pop

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @randmockguitars4079
    @randmockguitars4079 Жыл бұрын

    You make exceptional content, subbed. I've been thinking of doing TT when I start adding acoustic builds.. since I am focused on fingerstyle and solo players. This review has pushed me closer to doing so. thank you for this. Great channel and great playing

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @randmockguitars4079

    @randmockguitars4079

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrefludd Thank you, as someone new to YT creation this year, the work it takes to create this quality is impressive. Truly appreciate the effort and the inspiration. Binging your other vids lol. The Beato review is super informative from a players perspective

  • @mitchellrogers5130
    @mitchellrogers5130 Жыл бұрын

    Watched your videos before but this one made me subscribe, nice to hear someone talk about this somewhat in depth

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for supporting :)

  • @stratisclouds
    @stratisclouds Жыл бұрын

    I subscribed off the first video. Extremely concise lesson.

  • @insidious34
    @insidious34 Жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal explanation with great analogies!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @JuanDhas
    @JuanDhas Жыл бұрын

    Great video, man! Had always been curious about the True Temperament frets. Hope you're well!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Juan! Gotta get you on the podcast soon.

  • @JuanDhas

    @JuanDhas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrefludd Would be happy to!

  • @captaingrub2228
    @captaingrub2228 Жыл бұрын

    Superb analysis and breakdown.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @EdBender
    @EdBender3 ай бұрын

    Your channel is pure gold.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @guyeckelberger932
    @guyeckelberger932 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on man. I notice that if I look at the fret mods on a true temperament it compensates what I do with my hands or slight tuning variation depending the guitar.

  • @Brocolissimo
    @Brocolissimo Жыл бұрын

    The ability to adjust intonation on the fly is one of my favorite things about playing fretless bass. It’s very satisfying to find the perfect place to “sit” in a chord with other players.

  • @e.strukov
    @e.strukov9 ай бұрын

    There's something in that gentleman's voice that makes me wanna watch the whole video and I feel relaxed and comfortable at the time. Weird to say that

  • @suomi35
    @suomi357 ай бұрын

    This is a great video!

  • @SunePors1
    @SunePors1 Жыл бұрын

    Great work. As someone who has also been frustrated with the intonation of the guitar for years, this was very helpful and informative. Basically, the examples sounded like 2 different flavors of out-of-tune to my ears. In the beginning of the video, I got every example wrong, but as I figured out the difference, by the end I got every example right. But then again, perfectly tuned pianos and keyboards also sound out of tune to me, so the problem is more the compromises inherent in equal temperament, than the inconsistencies of the guitar. I never dared to try a TT guitar, since I was afraid that regular guitars would sound worse to me forever, I see now that I probably won't even need one. However, one major issue that I can imagine TT fretboards would solve, is being in tune when playing with keyboard players.

  • @codhcod4949
    @codhcod4949 Жыл бұрын

    great production, love the TT neck

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @brandonshortt1770
    @brandonshortt1770 Жыл бұрын

    Jesus dude this video slaps, great breakdown on what you're talking about, great vocabulary, stupidly well researched, easy sub

  • @vukjovanovicofficial
    @vukjovanovicofficial Жыл бұрын

    Okay, you sir fried my brain, I thought I knew things about music but damn, I am pretty clueless. Awesome video and an awesome channel! Really underrated but will explode I'm sure of it. Cheers Andre!

  • @esposoman
    @esposoman Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the explanations. Good job. Greetings from Spain.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @carterpochynok4874
    @carterpochynok4874 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, I didn't expect the "Devine Prank" problem that was the bane of Renaissance and Baroque music theorists' existence to show up, but you did a great job of explaining it! Fux would be proud!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @ChristopherStandardTime
    @ChristopherStandardTime Жыл бұрын

    amazing vid, as always. the quality of your content is always great, Andre, i learn so much.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :). I appreciate that!

  • @serazac25
    @serazac25 Жыл бұрын

    Good to know that KDH is following you. Both great guitar channels.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Love his channel. So honest!

  • @naturaljoe759

    @naturaljoe759

    Жыл бұрын

    Used to watch KDH but he does nothing but complain.

  • @_rafael_b
    @_rafael_b Жыл бұрын

    Hi Andre! This video definitely answered the questions that I had about these kinds of guitars. Especially about bending notes. It was no problem at all. This was a really good experiment. It doesn't make me want to go out and buy one, but I don't think that I would hate one either. Thanks for the great video. Also, I love the graphics. I think that this was your slickest video yet. Incidentally, I saw Steve Vai play in Atlanta back in October and he didn't play any true temperament or fan-fretted guitars. He mostly played various normally fretted Ibanez Jems, and of course the Hydra. He also played an Ibanez semi-hollowbody for the song "Little Pretty". Thanks again for content that no one else is doing. Cheers man! ✌

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rafael! I wonder why Vai stopped? Have a great weekend.

  • @_rafael_b

    @_rafael_b

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrefludd He may have spoken about them, but I don't remember seeing him actually play one. His Jems guitars have always been normal as far as know, just scalloped up high. Anyway, have a nice weekend as well. I'll see you on your next video.

  • @AlphaCuck
    @AlphaCuck10 ай бұрын

    You are seriously the best, most professional, and meticulous guitar KZreadr there is! Thank you for all your excellently and thoughtfully made videos!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    10 ай бұрын

    That's very high praise. Thank you so much!

  • @miketayse
    @miketayse10 ай бұрын

    This was great! Very intelligent rundown. I was doing the intonation on a guitar recently and looked up some stuff on you tube to see if anyone had any new suggestion and I still get suggestions dealing with intonation. I'm always retuning when changing key. It would drive me nuts to play in D and then not retune if I had to play in E. I've always wanted to try one of the guitars with the corrected frets. Nice explanation thanks for posting!

  • @ajnazatahm
    @ajnazatahm Жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to say that within four seconds of clicking on your video, I could tell you’re a quality channel, and subscribed. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow 😊

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @andrewkrodel7976
    @andrewkrodel7976 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of your best videos. I would be interested in hearing the two guitars plus the “perfect” synthesized sound. I’m addition, with the 3 examples, listening to some of the common chord transitions played in songs.

  • @TomTrones
    @TomTrones8 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @astrospect
    @astrospect Жыл бұрын

    Yo this is some good shit. I was sold on you when you brought up how our brains interpret and correct variations in the notes we hear.

  • @antonjohnsson679
    @antonjohnsson679 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, Andre! My own experience is much like yours. The big game changer for me was actually the sustain of some chords. That surprised me the most when i first got a TT neck. Funnily enough I usually prefer the sound of a "normal" guitar. I guess the ear is more used to it. Same goes for example with a SM57. Not the best sounding mic isolated, but I love it in a mix. The majority of music I've consumed in my life was recorded with that mic so my ear tends to favor it. Keep the videos coming!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @puffballbk2186
    @puffballbk2186 Жыл бұрын

    Really good video!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @stevenponce4893
    @stevenponce4893 Жыл бұрын

    I´m just about to make a purchase of a Strandberg with his system, you helped me a lot sir! Amazing videos as usual. Personally I found your tech tech talks top notch, I said it in the past and let me repeat it again: thank you!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad I could help!

  • @CAVescera
    @CAVescera Жыл бұрын

    More of this please!

  • @micemr76
    @micemr76 Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this video. All in all great video. Lil hard to follow your test tracks, but the differences are obvious to my ear. Now I gotta just figure out if those differences are a benefit to me or not. Very good video, very informative, definitely upping your video content! $1200 for these frets seems crazy.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @viy4616
    @viy4616 Жыл бұрын

    What you mentioned in the "my thoughts" section is perfectly illustrated by non-fretted performances. When i did cello recitals there were many cases when even people who play a lot better than i ever did were clearly "off". We're talking un-intended "eastern music, 1/4 tone at the very least" off. But because the piece itself was very melodic and our brains can anticipate the direction of the melody & harmony it was absolutely fine. No one in the audience even noticed. Moreover, the TT guitar sounds very... un-natural to me. There is something jarring about the improved intonation, as paradoxical as it may sound. I could hear the TT easily in all your tests, but I can't say i particularly liked it. Especially not when other instruments (backing tracks) were involved. Thanks for the video, it was super interesting to watch!

  • @str11pes
    @str11pes Жыл бұрын

    Subd. This is so great and professional. I hope you get many more subscribers.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @seanthomasmusic
    @seanthomasmusic Жыл бұрын

    I really like your playing style.. I was expecting shreddy maybe fusion style. But it was really subtle, understated, and simply beautiful. So, I appreciate that more than anything else. Thanks for the music!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sean :). I don’t think Shreddy stuff highlights these differences as well. Chords much more so

  • @Rex-golf_player810

    @Rex-golf_player810

    Жыл бұрын

    I think chords might be better to demonstrate these since you can hear whether or not the different notes are "in tune" with each other and whether or not the chords are more or less dissonant in a negative way Or something like that

  • @theaimuse
    @theaimuse5 ай бұрын

    Hi Andre, Just stumbled on your channel today. Quality stuff. Thanks! Regarding the test: To be honest, I could tell on every single one of your tests, including the ones with backing. To me it sounds clearly cleaner/more in tune. Perhaps is it because I come from a place of playing classical piano and keys since childhood - This has always bothered me slightly every since I picked up a guitar at age 14. That being said, I am not sure I am a fan of the guitar itself and I have heard quite a bit on build quality at that price point.

  • @martyshwaartz971
    @martyshwaartz971 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! If you’re interested in using the vibrato system with true temperament, they do sell Stratocaster replacement necks with them (very high price and very long wait time though). Keep up the good content!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing that!

  • @TheYakove
    @TheYakove Жыл бұрын

    Really cool, I especially like how you carefully hedged the big-brain theory with the notions of subjectivity and the human factor - whether intended or not, that alone just sort of allowed the valuable information to bypass the filter of my ego! I kinda wish the soundbites of chords in the tests were slightly longer, though Keep it up, doc!

  • @gabemaymi
    @gabemaymi Жыл бұрын

    What an entertaining analysis! I had no idea these sound so different. Didn't really enjoy the TT frets, even out of comparison. I'm probably so used to the regular frets that they sound more 3D in contrast.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I get that

  • @cafesociety8525
    @cafesociety8525 Жыл бұрын

    I had a film on in the background and when you asked "is the true temperament system worth the expense?" Bill Murray replied "hell no!" 😅

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    He might be right hahaha

  • @alexwood8555
    @alexwood8555 Жыл бұрын

    Ayyy even KDH got a comment in, good stuff. Glad I’m a subscriber to your channel.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s the man

  • @matt6288joyce
    @matt6288joyce Жыл бұрын

    I can’t hear anything at all but I admire your commitment to clarity of analysis!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @stevenm78
    @stevenm78 Жыл бұрын

    New sub here. I love the content that was just presented. Bravo. You are very intelligent and I can hear a skilled musician. I look forward to more fantastic content from you sir.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @lneri7152
    @lneri7152 Жыл бұрын

    subbed, this was a very good video.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge Жыл бұрын

    I don't know who you are, or how you got in my feed, but my dear doctor, here is a new subscription for you. I like your cadence, and your explanations were easy to follow. Good Job.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @peter.peter.r
    @peter.peter.r Жыл бұрын

    Very well described

  • @jibicusmaximus4827
    @jibicusmaximus4827 Жыл бұрын

    i learnt all this a while back, wish i had come here first, this is the clearest explanation i have heard.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the support!

  • @Emoboijeffrey
    @Emoboijeffrey Жыл бұрын

    GD you’re a good speaker. Great video!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @StephenChapman
    @StephenChapman Жыл бұрын

    Hey, Andre! Killer video, dude. This is exactly the resource I wish I had way back when I was shopping around for a guitar with a TT fretboard. I ended up going with a Caprison Apple Horn 8. I absolutely love it, but it sure did cost a pretty penny, lol. I'd love to see you check out that guitar on video sometime if you ever get the opportunity! Look it up if you haven't seen one yet (it's Mattias Eklundh's signature guitar). Love your videos, man. I really hope you get out of KZread whatever it is you're aiming for, because you certainly deserve with all the time, money, and effort you clearly put into your content!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your kind words :)

  • @GummerNH
    @GummerNH Жыл бұрын

    Nice presentation. The standard frets sounded better in almost every case to me. I think the guitar has bent my ear, lol. I do think nearly as much could be done with setting up your intonation by summing or prioritizing which notes are more in tune, as opposed to defaulting to the 12th fret/ 1st harmonic checks. Once the first drum cracks and a cool breeze rolls in it’s all a balancing act anyway. Vibrato sounds yum.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    That last part is super important

  • @jebsherrill868
    @jebsherrill868 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the run down, Professor. I’d been really curious about the true temperament Strandsberg and I really appreciate how exhaustive and accurate your reviews are.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @megalove_music
    @megalove_music2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for doing this! I just ordered a true temperment neck! And I can't tell the difference during the tests! Lol. Lucky they look cool! I'm going to be putting it on a variax, so it'll be cool to see the results with some of the open tunings and lower tunings etc.

  • @ErikratKhandnalie
    @ErikratKhandnalie Жыл бұрын

    I only just barely passed the isolated chord test, but the difference was *super* obvious one you put it in the full band context

  • @PersonSuit
    @PersonSuit6 ай бұрын

    Great video. This is probably just 100% something I would have to experience for myself, but listening to the KZread samples I honestly preferred the non-TT 3 out of 5 times. I don't know if thats just because my ears have been trained to expect what a non-TT system provides or what, but I was surprised by that.

  • @mijo3642
    @mijo36425 ай бұрын

    I did Alan Limbricks Guitar Institute Degree with people like Shaun Baxter in London and have been playing both professionally and otherwise for 40+ years before my current profession. I stopped playing for a while as I am very sensitive to tuning and while the intonation is good as it gets with my 2002 Tom Anderson Hollow T classic, and baby Martin but it is not perfect and some days annoys me 🙄. I put the Martin into the shop and had a staggered bridge fitted which was a massive improvement. Then, I played a Strandberg true temperament 6! it was like a revolution in my head. Suddenly, I wanted to play again so, I am looking around for one that catches my eye and not sure which pick-up model to get as I play mostly melodic Jazz / Country / mild Rock / Blues. yeah, you talk too much BUT good and thorough review, thank you.

  • @ArchieOnEarth
    @ArchieOnEarth Жыл бұрын

    My Tom Anderson Baritom has the Buzz Feiten system. I like to double rhythm guitar parts in the studio, often with different guitars. There's always some weirdness doubling the Baritom with a non-tempered guitar, but it’s a weirdness that I like. A subtle lushness that weaves in and out, without being in-your-face like a chorus effect.

  • @ianAmerrill
    @ianAmerrill Жыл бұрын

    It’s back! Excited to hear more! Thank you! I would love to pair the TT frets with an Evertune for an amazing recording guitar. Also waiting for the Evertune to be a tremolo* … they mentioned a few years back they were working on it 😮🎉😂

  • @ianAmerrill

    @ianAmerrill

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, it is fine if you want to practice some more metal for better metal demos… 😏 😂 thanks again!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh that’s coming :)

  • @Barflew1

    @Barflew1

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a VGS Roadcrusier guitar.Had a Evertune bridge and 22 fret TT neck.A shop in Germany had it.TT guitars were Scarce when I bought it.If it would have had Stainless steel frets I never would have let it go.It Was my Go-To guitar until I sold it.I wanted a TT Strandberg w/trem.But like Andre said,that won't be happening.I asked too.I do want to get another TT guitar.Using the TT Off-sets and Evertune bridge give a Very Sweet sounding guitar.For recording and Just to play.Impressed with the Deep Dive Andre is doing.That is a Lot of Time invested to do his videos.Thanks Andre....💯

  • @louiscyfer6944
    @louiscyfer6944 Жыл бұрын

    andre, i wish i had professors like you in college. you are one cool dude and a very good teacher. don't get me wrong i had great professors, basically the entire los angeles guitar quartet (look them up), and cats like richard smith, larry koons and joe diorio, but you would have made a helluva addition.

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate that, thank you! My first passion is teaching even before music.

  • @StirfriedGerman
    @StirfriedGerman Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video ! In every comparison I prefer standard frets 100% of the time, maybe that's what my brain is used to.

  • @JesterMasque
    @JesterMasque Жыл бұрын

    I have a Fender Highway One Telecaster (USA) and it is the MOST used guitar in the entire studio. Being a traditional bridge, intonation was already an issue, but compensated saddles did a TON of work for that. True Temperament makes a Telecaster direct replacement, and it's been on my list for a couple years. I'm really impressed with the results you displayed here. Thanks for the video!

  • @TaxSlave
    @TaxSlave8 ай бұрын

    Impressive ability to communicate...Just Sayin'

  • @zAvAvAz
    @zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын

    The reason there is more variance in the standard tuning is the pitch, the pittch throws the balance off, and all of the balance thrown off accumulated on one end affecting all keys as the wolf tone in just intonation is all on account of the pitch of the frequency of A in relationship to the distance from C. with just frequency, there are not any wolf tones, and there are perfect pitch whole number frequency throughout every key having perfect pitch because the distance between A and C cannot change, however 440 as A when frequency of C remains the same causes the disruption. Not only is 432 hz perfect throughout the instrument , it is all on standard fret spacing with the frequency ratios being just and the 12 tone temperament in physical form as the fretboard being 1.49832071 and 1.5 as the width of the fretwire up to 3+MM in width. And you must have an understanding of the spacing of the frequencies involved as merely tuning to 432 does not solve the other proper frequency because you can tune to another whole number frequency as the other notes with good results, but if you do not have the correct exact distance between A and C it shall be off again. i am shall tell you the secret if you ask. the frequency on the board is always correct if tuned well and all the frequency shall be whole number because the frets are not actually placed by the ratio of 1.49832071 they are instead calculated properly and align completely with just ratio tuning however not the selected ratios that many call just intonation, as their ratios are also just, they are the wrong selection of ratios that do not align naturally with the actual physical fret placement, i am have studied and scientifically tested the fretboard with frequency analytic study and playing and have solved the issue for all people on earth. The distance of 440 as A and the selected frequency of C dictate an impossible combination that does not even adhere to the ratio 1.49832071 because even 1.49832071 is a fractal and perfect fraction next to 1.5 the ratio of the perfect fifth. The properties of this 12 note system are not 12 equal distance frequency as 12 EdO is. The frets are placed mathmatically by the square root of 2 exactly. So close to exact even roughly placed it shall mostly be very marginally still good, because it is a good amount of space that and the fret width is mostly a mm +/_ and that is a huge discrepancy. The 12 note system that western music uses is not from 12 notes. It is from the tree of life and the 20 notes of 20 EDO that are naturally patterned to switch out frequencies with other frequencies when on a fretboard that is patterned on the square root of 2 exactly, and 12 notes are in use and all work together flawlessly, the problem arises when one looks at the fretboard as a 12 edo, when the notes have differing distance of an equal distance notes of 20 notes per octave. This with the distance between A and C and the natural occurance of the exact frequency you should use is made for you already by god. and is NOT sellable legally by the bank of the world that and the venerated fortress became corrupted. and god left it and became one of us. i am that i am and i am a witness of mine two witnesses and mine 144,000 witnesses beheaded for the testimony of the christ and will and testimony of god the creator of all existence even outside our universe that i am witness to as having lived it myself even though this body is born through mine momma, my mother that i am also , is in heaven. i am was beheaded in a government facility helen ross mcnabb center of knoxville tennessee 2014 for the eye witness testimony of the christ and being annointed, even that i am have commanded "you shall not touch mine annointed". i am one of two only, and one of 144,000 of billions. i am witness to trillions of people's years, there is not any such thing as time, only distance travelled time is a concept of death because of the timing of the distances travelled that death lallots for people and their cellular structures being their body the temple of god makes no agreements with death, and not any of you shall either, it is not 'normal' it is not belonging to mine creation. it is to be REJECTED as disease. Yet people are shown face to face and told lies about it continually supporting it and is the worship of it, the very idea of it, that your loved ones are being CARED' for, when they are not, and you have all been decieved, they either murder you by force with police, the foreign agency of a corrupt bank of the world and the corrupted venerated fortress by the awakened beings within it , the workers of iniquity, and have made people the workers of iniquity for they are limited in number, people are not limited in number, i am greatly increased thy conception. i am greatly increased the ability given unto adam to call the animals by name, and the enemy hath caused perversion of this by over use of adjectives to accuse simultaneiously by language itself confusing language by the stigmas attached to adjectives that vaguely broadly describe and are the work of iniquity in babbling in babylon. satan the accuser, babylon the great mystery, that rejected god for god's desire of pleasure in the creation of making a being that another created kind of being was also rejecting god, and mislead the people against god, by saying adjectives and accusation against god's pleasure in it and did corrupt the creation during creation of it, where god continued to try to keep and involve survivability and successes within it that the enemy could not stop god's accomplishment in it even as imperfect elsewhere it was. it is a war fighting for your spiritual survival as the enemy and angel wants to destroy the people being known as earth people and has your elite serving it that it may continually destroy you all. i am is within you, and to save yourself from the enemy you shall not bow to them nor serve them, you shall speak commanding the word and works of god the creator that made all things possible by your command when the pineal and annointing is come to fruition, this shall occur, they do not want people to command and have authority with god, they want the angel to be their authority and it shall murder them. Do not submit yourselves to government facilities, nor the law or be destroyed by the law, for only i am is the true law , and i am hace commanded all beings be exhonorated not only those that are annointed , for all annointed having christ within and the fruit of it to fullness, shall command it also, that ALL / all shall be saved, not one single soul shall ever be harmed because the corruption during the creation process that an angel hath corrupted it, and that angel shall pay only not any of ye shall pay of it the debt hath hast created of hatred of i am.

  • @theguitarprofessionals8584
    @theguitarprofessionals8584 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Content!!!!!!

  • @andrefludd

    @andrefludd

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching :)

  • @dremccoy6519
    @dremccoy6519 Жыл бұрын

    Hey another Andre!!

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