True Crime : Palm Springs Massacre | The Friendly Murders | Story Time featuring Rock Hudson & More

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When Sophia Friendly opened the door to her killer, she was dressed for dinner.
It was October 12, 1978. In Palm Springs, California, a resort-home destination for presidents and entertainers-where Elvis and Priscilla honeymooned, where everyone from Frank Sinatra to Liberace held court-dressing for dinner was the protocol observed in many of the houses nestled in the desert valley. Sophia, age 71, donned a floor-length dress and gold shoes. Her husband, Ed Friendly, 74, put on a jacket. The couple’s maid set the dining-room table with crystal and a six-piece silver service that included slender fish knives.
At about 7 p.m. the killer walked in the front door of the three-bedroom Mediterranean-style villa at 893 Camino Del Sur. Something happened-words were spoken, a weapon revealed-and Sophia Friendly turned to flee down the hallway. She was shot in the back of the head and died instantly. Frances Williams, the Friendlys’ 67-year-old cook and housekeeper, had just slipped a fish dinner into the warming oven. When the killer bore down on her in the kitchen, she dropped to her knees. A bullet to the head, fired point blank, ensured she died just as swiftly as her employer.
Ed Friendly wore a hearing aid. It is thought possible that, sitting in the bedroom, watching television and sipping a drink, he was unaware of the shots. He’d turned in his chair but had not risen to his feet when the killer struck a third time. Ed Friendly was shot twice-in the chest and in the head.
Photos and papers were tossed around, pants pockets turned inside out. Nothing was taken, including the $400 in cash in plain view in a wallet. But something was left behind: shell casings on the floor of the hallway, kitchen and den. Those casings would prove crucial but not for more than 30 years, after waves of police work drew tantalizingly close to an arrest time and again. The casings held the clues.
The killer did one thing more in the house on Camino Del Sur: A man’s fedora was tossed over the face of Sophia Friendly. It was as if to deliver the message that her death held the most meaning.
No neighbor observed anything out of the ordinary; no one heard gunshots. A car could have easily glided down the dim, quiet, palm-lined street unnoticed, the smell of dust and fig groves in the arid breeze.
It was the first triple homicide in the history of Palm Springs.

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  • @TheGraveyardChannel
    @TheGraveyardChannel3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Scott, thanks for including me in your video. It seems like that was years ago. It’s always fun seeing you when you come to town. And even though this particular story was extremely sad and tragic, it’s nice that you’re keeping their memories alive and it’s especially nice that you visited the cemetery to try to find the Housekeeper’s gravesite. 💙👍

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank YOU Steve! It’s always so much fun filming with you and spending time with you. It went by too fast but I’ll be seeing you again soon. It really does seem like we did this a year ago lol. Crazy how fast this year is going. I need your help putting together the next video we did cause it’s all out of order and I’m so confused 🤣🤣🤣. I’ll text you tomorrow my friend.

  • @annmariemcleod6670

    @annmariemcleod6670

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its so nice to see you Steve. Thanks Scott

  • @TheGraveyardChannel

    @TheGraveyardChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annmariemcleod6670 Thanks AnnMarie!

  • @annmariemcleod6670

    @annmariemcleod6670

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheGraveyardChannel your most welcome my friend. I hope your doing well and hope to see you in Canada sometime i the future 😊

  • @petermcdonald1744

    @petermcdonald1744

    3 жыл бұрын

    When Woolworth (anyone remember that?) heiress, Barbara Hutton died, in 1979, at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, she had $3,500 left in her bank account. Any trust fund, coming from her was long lost. In 1930 she had over $100 million, adjusted for 2021 inflation, about a billion dollars! Of her 7 husband's, most impoverished "royalty," some gay, the one who didn't take alimony, or $$$, was Hollywood Royalty, and Palm Springs resident, Cary Grant.

  • @MrTimrow
    @MrTimrow3 жыл бұрын

    Gregg Sherwood died in 2011 at age 87. She actually went through more than 20 million in the space of about 15 years, filing for bankruptcy in 1978 after suing her former mother-in-law for another 9 million on top of the 11 million divorce settlement. She then pleaded guilty to embezzling from her son's trust fund. Now I don't quite as bad about all the money I've blown this last year. Wild stuff. Really enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @claudettelajoie6948
    @claudettelajoie69483 жыл бұрын

    that family should have paid for a headstone very sad story.

  • @scotoftheanarchic.7903

    @scotoftheanarchic.7903

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what I was thinking surely someone should have paid, people with money are tighter than two coats of paint though.

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick50013 жыл бұрын

    It amazes me in the footsteps we take, or places we live in...and the majority have no idea how much pain, suffering, death and happiness occurred within the same spaces. I guess I'm weird to think of such things

  • @carsonrunyon6099

    @carsonrunyon6099

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that way as well! I'm sure most would think that kind of stuff is weird, but most people nowadays don't think about anything outside of social media

  • @seattlescofflaws

    @seattlescofflaws

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel the same way Kris.

  • @ElizabethW62

    @ElizabethW62

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everybody has energy & we leave it behind when we die. Most may never speak of it, but I believe those among us who have empathy - and not everyone does - consider these things. I don't find your observation weird at all. ☺️

  • @petermcdonald1744

    @petermcdonald1744

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a friend who swears-by burning sage, and saying some prayers of peace and love, when she moves into a new place. She found-out, after the fact, that she had briefly rented the Diane Linkletter condo, in West Hollywood, where Miss Linkletter took her life. She also remembered seeing, around the building, the famous ballet dancer/ actor Alexander Gudinov, who also took his life, in the same Horn Ave. highrise. 🙁

  • @tammybrown4901

    @tammybrown4901

    3 жыл бұрын

    No I'm the same way

  • @karensparks2509
    @karensparks25093 жыл бұрын

    I feel there should be no time limit on disclosing a murder in a house or other bad things that have happened.

  • @sc1338

    @sc1338

    Жыл бұрын

    Why death is everywhere

  • @wigglewiggle3789
    @wigglewiggle37893 жыл бұрын

    Gosh, even without the murders, if the walls could talk in that place oh the stories they could tell. Awesome vid. Take care man.

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @valerietodd2797
    @valerietodd27972 жыл бұрын

    I love when two people i follow collaborate on videos! Especially ones about people Ive never heard of. RIP to the victims

  • @punkrockdad86
    @punkrockdad863 жыл бұрын

    Your personality is infectious. My wife and I love your videos ! Keep it up Scott!

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Andy! Whoops, I mean, Burt!!

  • @anitacheeks1
    @anitacheeks13 жыл бұрын

    Very sad story! Its awful that Francis has an unmarked grave they could've at least raised up money or done something to get her headstone!! No one deserves to not have a headstone so sad!! Rip to Francis & all the victims🙏

  • @lisarose7138
    @lisarose71383 жыл бұрын

    Hello Scott and Steve!! I have never heard of this story. It was very interesting. Palm Springs has so much history. I hope to get there someday.

  • @spitfire3984
    @spitfire39842 жыл бұрын

    I’m almost deaf, so that truly touched my heart. I can’t imagine relaxing in my own home and being murdered by an assassin. So sad

  • @aaphotofilm
    @aaphotofilm3 жыл бұрын

    You did it again Scott. Another awesome video, I never heard of this murder before. There is a few stories you mentioned on your channel which I never heard before so it's something new to me like this one. This is why I love your videos so much, I always learn something new. The weather looks amazing but don't see you sweating as much today. I'm guessing it's humid but I could be wrong. Your videos go from amazing to super special. They get better everytime you do one. 🙂🙂😃

  • @909Adventures
    @909Adventures3 жыл бұрын

    Man you got lucky you were there on a day that it wasn't windy which is very rare in palm springs. Very interesting story I don't think I've every heard of this thanks for sharing.

  • @erikduhon2369
    @erikduhon23693 жыл бұрын

    I went ahead and gave it a thumbs up now as I'm just beginning to view it because I know it's going to be five star!! Thank you Scott!

  • @stacykeller8461

    @stacykeller8461

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too!!

  • @erikduhon2369

    @erikduhon2369

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stacykeller8461 every time I get a notification from his channel I get super excited. Lol

  • @janadeubner9883
    @janadeubner98833 жыл бұрын

    Very tragic story for the victims. I have never heard of this and will have to do some more reading on it.

  • @makyahbrown2
    @makyahbrown22 жыл бұрын

    FUN FFACT! I’m a CNA at an assisted living home and I help care for Sophia sister in law! She’s so sweet and we’ve gotten really close to the point that she told me about this and so I KZread’d it. She says she believes it was a professional but as far as reasoning goes is a mystery.

  • @bigrudd9346
    @bigrudd93463 жыл бұрын

    Followed both you and Steve for years. Amazing content.

  • @MissouriPenny
    @MissouriPenny8 ай бұрын

    Watching replay thanks for sharing .always interesting and stories done with research. Thankyou.

  • @TSC-hr7ir
    @TSC-hr7ir2 жыл бұрын

    Thank You for Sharing Especially about Ms Francis Williams R.I.P to the Victims 🌷🌺

  • @LewisonTV
    @LewisonTV3 жыл бұрын

    Really lovely of you to leave a rock for Francis.

  • @joannewinter7879
    @joannewinter78793 жыл бұрын

    OMG Chilling story. Hi to you both. By the way Scott I googled Frances Williams read her family history. She was from Kansas. Her husband Shelvert Williams, WW2 veteran died 1957. He is buried 5 /6 places away from Frances. His grave stone is on youtube. Surrounded by white stones ? 🙋‍♀️👍🙏 Fascinating story. Sad. 👍🙋‍♀️

  • @jim217ful
    @jim217ful2 жыл бұрын

    Iam glad you two film together. It's very enjoyable

  • @alaricamorganthe4912
    @alaricamorganthe4912 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Scott I luv that house it looks amazing.

  • @nanad4348
    @nanad43483 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I haven't heard this story before. RIP Frances. Thanks for sharing.

  • @caroleroseburgh1344
    @caroleroseburgh13443 жыл бұрын

    Hello Steve and Scott 🙋🏽. Interesting story line. Thanks for sharing this with me.this is really sad.✝️🛐☮️💟🟣❣️💚

  • @vegetasolo1221
    @vegetasolo12213 жыл бұрын

    Never knew about this incident, awesome video Scott

  • @yellowsubmarine1321
    @yellowsubmarine13213 жыл бұрын

    Heyyyy Scott, wow that's so sad🌹RIP🌹THANK you for this, appreciate you💖

  • @barbl7498
    @barbl74982 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thank you. Love how you always leave a rock for the people.

  • @rosemariemckinley7326
    @rosemariemckinley73263 жыл бұрын

    Let's get her a headstone

  • @Skunkape74
    @Skunkape743 жыл бұрын

    Great video Steve... Thanks for sharing.... I guess Scott did a good job as well lmao.... Thanks for sharing Scott!!!!

  • @sharc.9259
    @sharc.92593 жыл бұрын

    Another amazing video and I love to see you and Steve together ❤

  • @arthurkottman8369
    @arthurkottman83693 жыл бұрын

    Really great research scott. Nice job

  • @RollmeoneKenobi7
    @RollmeoneKenobi73 жыл бұрын

    great video and its so awesome to see you with collaborating with steve again the guy is a legend

  • @carolgillis5265
    @carolgillis52654 ай бұрын

    Thank You Scott and Steve

  • @Volaris27
    @Volaris273 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your channel thank you so much xoxo

  • @breemacc8452
    @breemacc84523 жыл бұрын

    Scott, you have very interesting vids! Keep em going!!! 😀

  • @denischabriddell8768
    @denischabriddell8768 Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a horrible story 😞 😪. These True Crime stories get me every time. Scott you do such a wonderful job telling us these stories and getting us emotionally involved.

  • @user-kc2bg3di5p
    @user-kc2bg3di5p3 жыл бұрын

    I grew up in yucca valley about 25 minutes away! So cool man! Love the videos!!

  • @alainaheacock8731
    @alainaheacock8731 Жыл бұрын

    Omg and I love here in palm springs didn't know about this and I've lived here off and on throughout my whole life

  • @seattlescofflaws
    @seattlescofflaws3 жыл бұрын

    The intro was awesome.

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks ! Found some vintage footage!

  • @stevenbinger704
    @stevenbinger7043 жыл бұрын

    Hey Scott good to see you bro thanks 👍 for the entertaining video

  • @CaliforniaPickin
    @CaliforniaPickin3 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of Steven Parent. The teenage kid who was gunned down by Manson follower, Tex Watson in the driveway at Cielo Dr. Total wrong place, wrong time. Nice job, and I never heard of this case. Did u do a vid on Sinatra while u were there?

  • @guygrip9634

    @guygrip9634

    2 жыл бұрын

    That murder was si off and as time gos on the murder was fake

  • @buckrogers4720
    @buckrogers4720 Жыл бұрын

    what can i say just another outstanding video from Scott

  • @AmandaDuchow
    @AmandaDuchow2 жыл бұрын

    A good portion of my childhood was spent with the Friendly’s including time in this house. I highly dispute that they were unkind in anyway. Or that they treated anyone who worked for them in a poor manner. Financially or otherwise. I appreciate the interest in this story as I’d love nothing more then to one day see it solved. It’s lived permanently in my head most of my life. And I respect it’s difficult to find information. But it needs clarification if for no other reason that some respect should be shown to everyone lost that day. I understand it’s all Alleged and I respect that. But I cannot stand by and let people assume they were unkind or that either of them were just a “Rich couple from San Francisco.” I mean no disrespect to your storytelling. I just wanted to clarify.

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for clarifying that Amanda . I probably spoke out of turn regarding the Friendly’s and that’s something I don’t usually do . I always try to speak highly of the victims of a crime and a heartfelt apology to you and my sincere condolences. ❤️

  • @AmandaDuchow

    @AmandaDuchow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SCOTTONTAPE thank you. I just remember them as being kind to me. I am not related. But our families were close. I didn’t mean to imply that you were intentional in that. I just wanted to make sure viewers understood that they were good people. Especially Ed. And I can confirm one thing. The house was great. And the pool is still my favorite pool ever. I hope new owners kept it. It was a classic.

  • @JoeFromJoplinMO
    @JoeFromJoplinMO8 ай бұрын

    Oh my. Bless Frances' heart, and may she rest in peace. Thank you for paying tribute her, Scott. Safe travels :)

  • @garethgoldsmith9605
    @garethgoldsmith96053 жыл бұрын

    Great location Scott, very interesting story of old Hollywood, also loving Scott Michaels site (findadeath ) being in u.k never heard too much about David rapport ,Joe wild ..etc... British actor's very intresting reading. (as morbid as it is I find it fascinating! ) awesome historically acurette location's. Thank you peace out 🤘

  • @andreabryant1131
    @andreabryant11312 жыл бұрын

    love you Scott, great as always!!!!! 👋 steve!!!!!! love you guys!!!!! hugs and 💋😘😗😚😙💋😘😗😚😙💋😘😗😚😙💋😘😗😚😙💋😘😗😚😙💋😘😗😚!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @hssalih
    @hssalih3 жыл бұрын

    I loved your Sal Mineo video so much! You have a life long subscriber with me!

  • @G-Lo77
    @G-Lo773 жыл бұрын

    2 of my favorite KZreadrs together 👍🏼. Great vlog and storytelling.

  • @Karin-
    @Karin-3 жыл бұрын

    Great video and great to see Steve there too 😁 I haven't heard this story before and that poor lady doesn't even have a grave stone, that is so sad. The son who organised it, not sure if he is still around, but I hope he gets or got what he deserves for this and rots in hell

  • @hcombs0104
    @hcombs01042 жыл бұрын

    I went to visit Steve's channel and now I'm here to see Scott's take on this crime. Just for the hell of it...while sort of watching that old classic A Place in the Sun on TV. Fun times 😊 Poor Frances. Looking for her gravesite was like looking for a needle in a haystack.

  • @lanacampbell-moore4549
    @lanacampbell-moore45493 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this case Thanks for sharing😊 RIP to the victims☹️

  • @MrKgbronx12
    @MrKgbronx122 жыл бұрын

    Please do Elizabeth Short (The Black Dahlia!) OMG! Fascinating story there. Show his/her grave!

  • @alanprice9453
    @alanprice94533 жыл бұрын

    That's steve I watch his channel too !

  • @TheRyanFleharty
    @TheRyanFleharty3 жыл бұрын

    That before shot of the house looks tiny as heck.

  • @guygrip9634
    @guygrip96342 жыл бұрын

    Scott what great story very sad.

  • @chriscooke9465
    @chriscooke94653 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @hi_c_doe7508
    @hi_c_doe75083 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @ebearscanada1302
    @ebearscanada13023 жыл бұрын

    YOU ROCK !!!!! for leaving a rock .

  • @apriljackson1370
    @apriljackson13703 жыл бұрын

    I'm subscribe to you and Steve! 😄

  • @claibornhands1292
    @claibornhands12923 жыл бұрын

    Hi Scott hope you having a good Saturday

  • @lesliejohnson4196
    @lesliejohnson41963 жыл бұрын

    Love Your Vedio's. :)

  • @coolsweetchic1
    @coolsweetchic12 жыл бұрын

    Hey Scott, do a video about Nicole Simpson please

  • @lifewithcarrie88
    @lifewithcarrie883 жыл бұрын

    So much tragedy in such a beautiful place 😪 The most ugliest things happening for money

  • @natalieangelo54
    @natalieangelo543 жыл бұрын

    Wow , what a tragedy 😢,,so sad and they were never caught thats so sad there is no stone for the poor women 😢 may she rip 🙏

  • @MissTLI1980
    @MissTLI19803 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff as always. What is the song that's playing at the beginning,very retro. Xox

  • @maryminott2593
    @maryminott25936 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve! Yay!!

  • @odalisgonzalez6875
    @odalisgonzalez68753 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this case. The poor maid.

  • @atheyb
    @atheyb3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Scott your videos are great!! I was wondering if you could do one on Richard Farley 1988 mass murder in Sunnyvale California. There was a 1992 movie with Brooke Shields and Richard Thomas it's called I can make you love me. Due to this mass shooting, stalking Laura black and in the separate stalking case of Rebecca Schaeffer prompted the first anti-stalking law in California.

  • @karenmulloy1085
    @karenmulloy1085 Жыл бұрын

    Your hair looks cute Scott , wind blown, thanks for the awesome video once again

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    Жыл бұрын

    ☺️☺️thank you Karen

  • @stevenhookano3754
    @stevenhookano37543 жыл бұрын

    WOW!!!AMEN!!!

  • @hi_c_doe7508
    @hi_c_doe75083 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been tell you to do Palm Springs

  • @Frank-in-PalmSprings
    @Frank-in-PalmSprings3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting story, but entire vid was hard to follow. You didn't get to the actual event until nearly minute 9 of the video.

  • @natalieangelo54
    @natalieangelo543 жыл бұрын

    Hi SCOTT AND STEVE ,,NEVER HEARD OF THIS CASE ,I REMEMBER MARK MILLER HE WAS AN ACTOR,, Barbara Hutton poor little rich girl James Dean had a brief affair with her , her dad owned the WOOLWORTHS COMPANY ,

  • @leeannbarber2820
    @leeannbarber28203 жыл бұрын

    Missed your chat on friday 😭

  • @michelleschweikert8593
    @michelleschweikert859311 ай бұрын

    Frances Williams is buried about 5 plots from where her husband, Shelvert, who died in 1957, is buried in the southwest corner. From what I read.

  • @kevinmaddox4198
    @kevinmaddox41983 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure the guy who cuts the grass appreciates that rock in the path of his mower. Just kidding Scott! Great video as always

  • @janadeubner9883

    @janadeubner9883

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha I thought the same thing!

  • @thatgardeninggirl2864
    @thatgardeninggirl28643 жыл бұрын

    HEY SCOTT

  • @niallmcdonagh1093
    @niallmcdonagh10933 жыл бұрын

    They were careless people....they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made. (The Great Gatsby).

  • @tinatate6109
    @tinatate61093 жыл бұрын

    Hello Scott💋

  • @flouncey1977
    @flouncey19773 жыл бұрын

    Before the remodeling, do you have a photo of it when it was built? Or through the 70's?

  • @bluehappyscrap
    @bluehappyscrap3 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME!!!😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈😁🎈

  • @lovemuse2288
    @lovemuse22883 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find that Palm Springs song used in the beginning?

  • @stevenhookano3754
    @stevenhookano37543 жыл бұрын

    Now you know! Everyone!!!!

  • @annmariemcleod6670
    @annmariemcleod66703 жыл бұрын

    Scott i was just reading about the Sherman's murder. Due to all the UN vehicles at the factory

  • @badgurl5758
    @badgurl57583 жыл бұрын

    Hello from OHIO 👍🏻

  • @ronicabates2309
    @ronicabates23093 жыл бұрын

    The Gee family in Beaso IL

  • @hi_c_doe7508
    @hi_c_doe75083 жыл бұрын

    I’m from Palm Springs

  • @lubedguyballer7159
    @lubedguyballer71593 жыл бұрын

    I hope you find yourself a nice lady one day, Scott

  • @stevenhookano3754
    @stevenhookano37543 жыл бұрын

    Hi everyone!

  • @teresaweber5194
    @teresaweber5194 Жыл бұрын

    Wow that sounds so very cold that it was done like that pure evil and greedy person to kill for money

  • @user-nc8fx9mb8l
    @user-nc8fx9mb8l10 ай бұрын

    R.i.p, its tragic

  • @sandraleonard9969
    @sandraleonard9969 Жыл бұрын

    I loved George Nader he was so handsome

  • @vacation_fun_makers
    @vacation_fun_makers2 жыл бұрын

    My wife's grandparents lived close to this area in palm springs. I remember the Toronto murders the husband and wife were found out at the pool tied up. I thought that was up in the bridalpath area

  • @SCOTTONTAPE

    @SCOTTONTAPE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Close, about two city blocks from the bridle path

  • @vacation_fun_makers

    @vacation_fun_makers

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SCOTTONTAPE it is still so hard to believe that have no more info on the senseless loss of life of the gentleman and his wife and no more info on any leads etc 😢

  • @jcostanza150
    @jcostanza1504 ай бұрын

    Why is there no other documentary’s on the murders?

  • @LadyDragonsblood
    @LadyDragonsblood2 жыл бұрын

    Is this any relation to Ed Friendly who produced Laugh In and Little House on the Prairie? I am asking this midway through...so you may answer this....or not, but I would like to know.

  • @rosannasmith5933
    @rosannasmith593325 күн бұрын

    So sad

  • @princesslayna5527
    @princesslayna55273 жыл бұрын

    Dang

  • @allan9603

    @allan9603

    3 жыл бұрын

    Pssss

  • @frederickcombs8661
    @frederickcombs86613 жыл бұрын

    Palm Springs is the capitol of human trafficking. I went inside this home on a realtor open, it had a clever remodel.

  • @drgeek100
    @drgeek1003 жыл бұрын

    what do you drive BTW? I am just curious...because whatever you drive must be really reliable ....you seem to drive all over..

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