Truck Drivers Getting Fired & Put Out Of Service For Using Personal Conveyance Wrong

Truck Drivers Getting Fired & Put Out Of Service For Using Personal Conveyance Wrong
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  • @bettiebarker1975
    @bettiebarker1975Ай бұрын

    As a former deputy,back when the dinosaurs ruled the earth, i was taught, I was not the judge jury or executioner. I was nothing more than a glorified babysitter...These security officers and police officers now days act like they are God, so sad. Great explanation from this young man, I understood it.

  • @KTannerPaisleyKK

    @KTannerPaisleyKK

    Ай бұрын

    Many time officers get enjoyment out of taking sides with the perp instead of the victim. I've seen it several times

  • @bettiebarker1975

    @bettiebarker1975

    Ай бұрын

    @KTannerPaisleyKK yeah we, us old farts, called short man syndrome and John Wayne syndrome..lol.. now I am seeing officers from other agencies,cursing one another..I am like if yall talk like that to each other, I can only imagine how you talk to the public. Sad sad sad

  • @Lone_Wolf_91

    @Lone_Wolf_91

    Ай бұрын

    I am sure what we often see is a rare occasion anyway. We don't hear about police officers being cool or what not. I belive most have common sense and I for ex use PC while going home/back to local yard for a trailer where I live and never anyone asked me anything about that and I use it every week. Had few guys doing inspection and never had a problem except the one I knew I got something wrong.

  • @michaelsorrentino-yp7nb
    @michaelsorrentino-yp7nbАй бұрын

    What ever company we are speaking about "SUCKS"

  • @jeffstanford4287

    @jeffstanford4287

    Ай бұрын

    I am so happy I retired and no longer have to with stupid government regulation controlled by a man who has a husband. The country has gone straight to hell .

  • @milltymefresh

    @milltymefresh

    Ай бұрын

    🎯🎯🎯​@@jeffstanford4287

  • @NorthEastLowrider4lyfe

    @NorthEastLowrider4lyfe

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed!!

  • @user-zt6bt8dp2c
    @user-zt6bt8dp2cАй бұрын

    If we still had paper log this wouldn’t be an issue.

  • @mayyouprosper8140

    @mayyouprosper8140

    Ай бұрын

    You don't need paper logs pc does not have a limit. You could even be loaded and it still would be legal.

  • @chrisbelsito4231

    @chrisbelsito4231

    Ай бұрын

    AMEN!!!! Parking wouldn’t be an issue either

  • @Unduplicatable

    @Unduplicatable

    Ай бұрын

    @@mayyouprosper8140 Not everyone is allowed to PC. Plus, that’s authentically NOT legal use of PC in case of a collision you’re now at fault.

  • @michaelk.3052

    @michaelk.3052

    Ай бұрын

    Nothing to do with paper logs...... All the guys screaming about paper logs are usually the ones doing sketchy stuff 🤷

  • @user-zt6bt8dp2c

    @user-zt6bt8dp2c

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelk.3052 it’s only sketchy because the government says it is. But it’s funny they claim elog is for safety but then force everyone to race against the clock and force drivers to stop when they’re not tired and start when they are tired. Don’t be a government stooge you’re disposable

  • @kadinzaofelune
    @kadinzaofeluneАй бұрын

    Tired of these crappy shippers and receivers.

  • @eelkeplantinga7158

    @eelkeplantinga7158

    Ай бұрын

    You got that right, California is good for that, loading 5 hours for 3 pallets lol. I have to say I take the produce to Canada so it has to be inspected before shipping. But still, 5 hours for 3 pallets is alot 😆 🤣

  • @georgegeorgepht
    @georgegeorgephtАй бұрын

    This is one of the main reason I left the food hauling industry. Otr is destroyed because of situations like this. 5 hours load times. 9 hours unload times. Elds No bathrooms No parking. Etc. Enjoy and god bless those still doing it. There is other industries that pay just as much if not more.

  • @battleborntj

    @battleborntj

    Ай бұрын

    That's why they've allowed so much leeway for foreigners, because they willing to work for peanuts.

  • @1babysun

    @1babysun

    Ай бұрын

    What other industries pay 💰 as much, and would you mind sharing them?

  • @doughansen5957

    @doughansen5957

    7 күн бұрын

    My favorite part of flatbedding is that it's true you rarely wait. I can think of ONE load in the past three months where I was waiting longer than an hour to get loaded. Securement and tarping is a challenge, it's true. But, given the choice, I'd personally much rather do that than sit at a dock for hours and hours.

  • @tomhaul3448

    @tomhaul3448

    7 күн бұрын

    @@1babysun Take your cdl to an electrical lineman apprenticeship with the IBEW and sign their books. Apprentices at 50hr work weeks make almost 90k, Journeyman 130+. gl

  • @timexcape7961
    @timexcape7961Ай бұрын

    People actually stay on duty for 5 hour loading?😂 You know you can switch to sleeper.

  • @openroadamerica

    @openroadamerica

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed, sleeper berth should have avoided this issue.

  • @eelkeplantinga7158

    @eelkeplantinga7158

    Ай бұрын

    Correct, in USA you can do split sleeper if you parked 3 hours and then 7 hours. But only for one day 😆

  • @kitchenspider

    @kitchenspider

    Ай бұрын

    You can switch to sleeper if you are in the sleeper, not sitting driver seat waiting for a green light. Also, if your company maxes your 70 every week, logging sleeper at shipper/receiver will break you bc now you are working 80+ hours. Sleeper during load/unload should honestly be gotten rid of... even if you are in it, you cant really sleep, take off boots etc... goyta move when you hear that knock, get that phonecall, buzzer, green light whatever. If people stopped logging sleeper and stayed on duty, it would more accurately reflect the bs load times and something might actually be done about it, but no... leave it to truck drivers to actively continue sabotaging the industry by saying "just log sleeper dude". smh. You realize it still costs you TIME right? Is your TIME not the same thing as money? Cant drive 700 miles AND noodle around at warehouses for 3+ hours at a time everyday... you'll go bananas if you try. So if youre gonna do 500 instead you might as well log onduty at shipper so the people know why. Abusing the intent of the regs to earn your company more money and sweep the issue under the rug is enabling these shippers/receivers to do it in the first place

  • @michaelk.3052

    @michaelk.3052

    Ай бұрын

    Split sleeper is the shix if you use it properly 😊

  • @kitchenspider

    @kitchenspider

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelk.3052 using it to freeze your 14 in certain situations can be useful but when it comes the longer 7/8hr break there is rarely a reason for me to ever not just finish out the full 10 and get a full clock. I run w/split ruleset on all the time for that reason only. The problem is, your dispatchers/planners get comfy with this fact and get lazy with planning your loads until you start getting unmanageable ridiculous loads all the time.

  • @indafield404
    @indafield404Ай бұрын

    This why i came off the road and doing local

  • @Rothydot
    @RothydotАй бұрын

    We deal with dot. Shitty brokers, shippers and receivers. Some don’t even let me use their bathrooms. Sucks sometimes when I need to drop an extra load lol

  • @BigLisaFan

    @BigLisaFan

    Ай бұрын

    I asked to use their bathroom but no dice Emptied a bottle in their parking lot. P on me, you get it back.

  • @blkheavyweight
    @blkheavyweightАй бұрын

    You're leaving out a very important element most of these carriers have PC turned off and you have to call them and many of them don't answer the phone at 1:00 in the morning or midnight this is very aggravating and frustrating somebody's telling you to move and you can't turn PC on to even leave until your company gives you permission and they want to make sure that you know you're meeting the guidelines for they will turn it on and you just caught in the middle and you know the whole thing is just you can't win

  • @kellytaber9345
    @kellytaber9345Ай бұрын

    First off if a shipper or receiver doesn't want to load or unload in a decent time frame I pull out and shut my doors and they can go lump it. I will not waste my time waiting for them. I've done this before and I'll continue to do it. Hrs of service is what it is. The only way customers will learn is to teach them a lesson if they want to ship or receive their products

  • @hvelez8239

    @hvelez8239

    Ай бұрын

    What was your repercussions from the company you worked for? Did they support your decision?

  • @kellytaber9345

    @kellytaber9345

    Ай бұрын

    ​@hvelez8239 they had no choice hrs of service is what it is. Any company that doesn't support their drivers decisions on that matter is breaking the law. I get safety messages all the time saying preplan your trips accordingly to prevent running out at customers. So I do if they don't supply parking I give them a choice either get me loaded quickly or unloaded quickly or I'll come back after a break. The company has no say since I'm following the hrs of service. If they fire me for doing my job they won't be happy at the money they will lose not only from a law suit but from the esop I have which is quite substantial. Any company that fires drivers for this isn't a company worth working for and should be out of business. Besides I'm too damn old to go playing these types of immature games some companies do. I suggest if you work for one of these you may want to go work somewhere else.

  • @Jack-pd4ps

    @Jack-pd4ps

    Ай бұрын

    Facts.

  • @Matt.97-yx2zx

    @Matt.97-yx2zx

    Ай бұрын

    I did the same / The big company I used to work for pretty much understood me. They are strict on following hours of service/ smaller company, however, did not like what I did, but I didn’t care/ my priority was my CDL, not the company I work for / can’t do shit with no CDL

  • @eelkeplantinga7158

    @eelkeplantinga7158

    Ай бұрын

    Talking about Lumpers lol. There's only Capstone these days, I call them Mafia each time. In Kent Washington Sysco once 387 dollars for 6 pallets to unload

  • @danstafford6536
    @danstafford6536Ай бұрын

    The e l d has made trucking worse... It turns a good Trucker into a bad trucker I've got all kinds of stories on bad shippers and receivers... One example, Costco unloades at four o'clock in the morning, They made me stand on the dock Well, I'm not a graveyard truck driver... Many Shippers and receivers are very uncooperative and give a truck driver a hard time... California is the worst, They all hate truck drivers.

  • @SilverGirl-925

    @SilverGirl-925

    Ай бұрын

    I'd like to ask a question. I called someone's husband a 'trucker' on a youtube comment, and they were insulted. I thought it was a completely acceptable term. She said "He is a man who drives a truck, not a trucker". My husband is a teacher, but apparently people are supposed to refer to him as 'a man to teaches'? I always thought it was cool when people say, "I'm a trucker". Am I wrong? This woman reported me as being abusive for that.

  • @BigLisaFan

    @BigLisaFan

    Ай бұрын

    Teachers are now “educators”. Don’t worry about that woman. Probably wishes her husband was a CEO rather than a trucker. 🤣

  • @doughansen5957

    @doughansen5957

    7 күн бұрын

    ​@SilverGirl-925 she's an idiot, don't worry about it. Sounds like someone taking a high horse stance about a non issue.

  • @charlesbutler8057
    @charlesbutler8057Ай бұрын

    Retired now but drove otr all thru the covid pandemic. I recall driving legally for 24 hours straight with only a few 15 minute breaks in order to make a Walmart load on time. FMCSA allowed this so the general public could get fed. Shippers/receivers treated drivers with respect during this time because we were considered essential personnel at that time. Many praises were heaped on drivers at that time for continuing to drive. Now the entitled general public and FMCSA consider truckers to be servents due to the actions of a few. Trucking has turned into an even bigger shit show following along with the rest of the country. God bless.

  • @davidbarnhouse5119

    @davidbarnhouse5119

    Ай бұрын

    I also remember that we were so "essential " that we were told that we'd be compensated for being away from home and family and making sure that people were fed and had their toilet paper and now today we are the biggest POS out there. I'm so close to pulling the plug and hanging it up

  • @DonFonzarelli-uq9yx

    @DonFonzarelli-uq9yx

    Ай бұрын

    No wonder your retired.

  • @onebadapple83
    @onebadapple83Ай бұрын

    Had a questionable PC a while back at a speeding stop in Ohio. Trooper talked to a supervisor and was told if the movement wasn’t producing revenue it’s ok to PC!

  • @joelmanon5983
    @joelmanon5983Ай бұрын

    Let's make America Paper Logs again 😎

  • @c-w-h
    @c-w-hАй бұрын

    My company uses drop lots to rest when no other place is available to park. Trick is to drop trailer. Use PC and then go back to the drop lot under PC.

  • @RomeoUrsu-fy9qo

    @RomeoUrsu-fy9qo

    Ай бұрын

    My trick is to work normal and get paid for my time….PC is free work.

  • @c-w-h

    @c-w-h

    Ай бұрын

    @@RomeoUrsu-fy9qo not all drop lots have bathrooms and showers. When you wake up in the night and need to go. They spent all their money on cams. 🤣 America.

  • @RomeoUrsu-fy9qo

    @RomeoUrsu-fy9qo

    Ай бұрын

    @@c-w-h Now that is a very good reason to work for free…even I admit it😂😂😂😂

  • @Anonymous-qr8lk

    @Anonymous-qr8lk

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@RomeoUrsu-fy9qoHow is pc home to your family free work ?😂

  • @babatundesho4735
    @babatundesho4735Ай бұрын

    What a clean explanation. His a good teacher.

  • @CameronCalhoun-mc9by
    @CameronCalhoun-mc9byАй бұрын

    Y'all it's fair to say trucking has hit the shits almost every vid I see now is something bad happening for some stupid shit

  • @Nihil2005
    @Nihil2005Ай бұрын

    Use the “Split Sleeper Berth”. Put yourself in “Sleeper Berth” when you arrive at the shipper/receiver.

  • @Seri-Katil
    @Seri-KatilАй бұрын

    Company policy should not be allowed to overrule dot policy.

  • @yabadabado7442

    @yabadabado7442

    Ай бұрын

    I totally agree.

  • @mayyouprosper8140
    @mayyouprosper8140Ай бұрын

    PC doesn't have a limit.

  • @Rassy636
    @Rassy636Ай бұрын

    Show Fmcsa this …. Let’s see what they say

  • @ironballzz1484
    @ironballzz1484Ай бұрын

    This happened to me in Alabama last week. I had to drive under 5 miles an hour for half a mile to a truck stop

  • @kelg-ti7xb
    @kelg-ti7xbАй бұрын

    He should have told him he needs to call the police so they can escort him out because it's against the law to move..if he out of hours

  • @yamama7265

    @yamama7265

    Ай бұрын

    The police really don't have the authority but the dot do he should call the DOT and explain the problem

  • @ak_getright9905

    @ak_getright9905

    Ай бұрын

    So he couldn’t just pc to nearest truck stop after getting unloaded, since he was empty? Seems like that should be one of the prime uses. Especially after seeing he was in the same location for 5 hrs and especially if they unloaded him in a normal time frame he would’ve still had time to go park.

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ak_getright9905under the dot rules, he could. Under bs company policy he likely couldn't. Policy should never trump law imo

  • @Whyme103

    @Whyme103

    Ай бұрын

    Find another company, there is no way I’ll beg a company for anything, just move on.

  • @gregflock380
    @gregflock380Ай бұрын

    if your company wont allow pc.....and your at a shipper and they need you leave ....tell them they need to tow the truck....when your company pays for the tow tell them to allow pc next time

  • @NYiiTrippy
    @NYiiTrippyАй бұрын

    Copy and pasted directly from fmcsa Personal conveyance is the movement of a commercial motor vehicle (CMV) for personal use while off-duty. A driver may record time operating a CMV for personal conveyance as off-duty only when the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work by the motor carrier. The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the motor carrier at that time. Personal conveyance does not reduce a driver’s or motor carrier’s responsibility to operate a CMV safely. Motor carriers can establish personal conveyance limitations either within the scope of, or more restrictive than, the guidance provided

  • @boatbound3300
    @boatbound3300Ай бұрын

    Lots of luck fighting this crap

  • @jasonrappold4719
    @jasonrappold4719Ай бұрын

    Then the company is crap

  • @masontheworldtraveler3098
    @masontheworldtraveler3098Ай бұрын

    Learn cyber security and work from home be with your wife and kids shower whenever you want unlike otr

  • @oldyoung1

    @oldyoung1

    Ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @timexcape7961

    @timexcape7961

    Ай бұрын

    Also 4 year degree, internships, personal projects, networking. Might as well be a criminal, there are no jobs.

  • @masontheworldtraveler3098

    @masontheworldtraveler3098

    Ай бұрын

    @@timexcape7961 I know many people that don't have a degree that's in the field you need experience and certifications

  • @licktin1091

    @licktin1091

    18 күн бұрын

    Are you stupid? Cybersecurity is a very competitive field. Plus a 4 year degree costs a lot of money. Also good luck with networking. If you don’t like otr, do local or regional. Not everyone can do remote

  • @MrHhill2001
    @MrHhill2001Ай бұрын

    You definitely can pc from the dock. You’re done with the load

  • @vendingdudes

    @vendingdudes

    Ай бұрын

    Only if the purpose of your movement is an off duty activity

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@vendingdudesfood and entertainment, you can get both at a truck stop. The entertainment is usually the new drivers backing into a spot lol

  • @calebthekonkurer
    @calebthekonkurerАй бұрын

    That’s Rediculous 5 hours 🤷‍♂️ Wow that is wrong 😑

  • @Britcarjunkie
    @BritcarjunkieАй бұрын

    I've PC'd clear across the country! It's perfectly legal so long as its done correctly.

  • @triforcexxx305
    @triforcexxx305Ай бұрын

    Once again we need to held these shippers and receivers accountable and the company as well for being stupid

  • @yeezus9142
    @yeezus9142Ай бұрын

    Not me watching this after using personal conveyance from Pensacola to Orlando cause if I make it to Florida I’m going home no matter what 😂

  • @danstafford6536
    @danstafford6536Ай бұрын

    The worst I have ever had happened... I waited for two days to get a trailer loaded, Then they canceled that load.

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    Now you got a free load to sell. If they still want it after cancelling, 2k fee to unload your truck, and must be cash, no check. They can cancel checks.

  • @KingJRZJ

    @KingJRZJ

    Ай бұрын

    ​@legionofanon his trailer was empty

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    @@KingJRZJ i misread loaded as unloaded, oops

  • @RidinWitKenny
    @RidinWitKennyАй бұрын

    All truckers. Let’s unite. I’ll be the spokesperson. Let’s write down our demands and set up a date to stop driving until our demands are met….. no? Well stfu! Everyone who’s REALLY tired of the bs let’s do it.

  • @3182john

    @3182john

    Ай бұрын

    I hear this every week. “Let’s all shut down next week!!” Or “let’s all boycott NY!!” (Still not sure exactly why) nothing ever happens.

  • @zeroshepard9513

    @zeroshepard9513

    Ай бұрын

    Its easier to quit the cesspool

  • @RidinWitKenny

    @RidinWitKenny

    Ай бұрын

    @@3182john because it’s not organized. Ppl just be running their mouth. We don’t have anyone to speak for us. No one to lead. But I’m volunteering.

  • @RidinWitKenny

    @RidinWitKenny

    Ай бұрын

    @@zeroshepard9513 Quitting isn’t a lucrative option though. Where u gon go and make this kinda of money for this amount of labor?

  • @zeroshepard9513

    @zeroshepard9513

    Ай бұрын

    @@RidinWitKenny I want livestock. Ill stay until I can afford to switch. I want exercise and real fresh air. This job is a health sink and these hassels arent worth it for me.

  • @mayyouprosper8140
    @mayyouprosper8140Ай бұрын

    The company is breaking the law.

  • @TOdoubledizzle24
    @TOdoubledizzle24Ай бұрын

    Any company that fires you for that, you shouldn't be working for in the first place. With trucking you have to ha e some extra money in the bank so you can walk away at any time!

  • @davidc.w.2908
    @davidc.w.2908Ай бұрын

    Just stay on property. They might call the police. You then explain to the police what happened. If the police tell you to move, ask for name and badge number and put that into your log as the reason you had to use personal conveyance.

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    If police show up, request an officer with DOT certification. Then let that officer make the call, and if he says you stay for your 10h everyone else can eat crow

  • @younglove3362

    @younglove3362

    Ай бұрын

    You all are forgetting that he's on private property. They're legally able to kick him out.

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    Ай бұрын

    @@younglove3362 true, but in the process you still cannot violate hours of operations to comply with being kicked out. You are forgetting that the DOT gives no ducks and if you violate the logbook rules you can be/ will be shutdown right where you are caught and maybe even arrested depending on the violations. In the end, no matter what, if you can't pc because of shitty company policy, do not move without written order from a DOT officer.

  • @davidc.w.2908

    @davidc.w.2908

    Ай бұрын

    @@younglove3362 You are forgetting they let the truck driver on their property. Once a driver runs out of the clock, they cannot kick him out. They most likely won’t call the police because they will get a ticket.

  • @younglove3362

    @younglove3362

    Ай бұрын

    @davidc.w.2908 And you're forgetting that the driver is on private property. If the owner wants him off, he has to go. Hours or no hours. That's why the personal conveyance is there.

  • @mayyouprosper8140
    @mayyouprosper8140Ай бұрын

    Company policy does not mean the company can break the law. Legally you can pc anywhere because its personal even if you are loaded.

  • @Dubya9W9

    @Dubya9W9

    Ай бұрын

    it's not breaking the law..When you purchase a truck and hire someone to drive it, you get to say how he/she uses said equipment..you should try it..and idk why all of these drivers crying now..most wanted the eld, well now you have it..me i'm looking for a glider..buh bye

  • @bcgrittner
    @bcgrittnerАй бұрын

    I’m glad I’m retired.

  • @oldsagejoe
    @oldsagejoeАй бұрын

    Before retiring the carrier I drove for had a simple policy for personal conveyance.... you had to start and end your pc driving at the same location and no loaded trailers.

  • @jameswhite5116
    @jameswhite5116Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the informative information

  • @irri4662
    @irri4662Ай бұрын

    Unplug

  • @bp218

    @bp218

    Ай бұрын

    Do it all the time !! Then hit reject for unknown driver!!! Passed inspection 3 times!! One time I did sweat it because I had to send logs to dot car . Dude came back and said have a nice day!!

  • @juniorrodriguez6961
    @juniorrodriguez6961Ай бұрын

    An issue like that happened at Target Distribution Center, once they ask me to leave unloaded its an automatic rejection on the load. As an owner operator, with own authority, i personally log off and end my day, commencing an Off duty term.

  • @TruckHaulinTalks
    @TruckHaulinTalksАй бұрын

    Great information. The mileage limit by companies may be an insurance coverage precaution. Thanks for posting.

  • @BlockBallerRecords
    @BlockBallerRecordsАй бұрын

    Well people downplay the “Chicago Companies “ But I bet you they won’t Fire you for driving all day without a ELD

  • @user-oo7gh8wp5k
    @user-oo7gh8wp5kАй бұрын

    This is the problem because companies policy go against federal law and shipping receiving policy

  • @mikeb4168
    @mikeb4168Ай бұрын

    He could have edited his log to show on arrival on duty 10min comment- "drop load in doc"k, then go on sleeper berth show comment as"trailer disconnected", 2 hr`s will pause clock, then when secutity requested to move go on PC show as run "errands", then when he gets a call back from security sayig box is empty , go back hook empty then go on duty- comment "pre-trip ispection, hook empty, the whole time clock would have been paused..,now there might be several variations to this example but When I sit get unloaded always stop the clock, Manage your time,. ,

  • @troninawiggins49
    @troninawiggins49Ай бұрын

    This is complete bs... I feel horrible for the driver

  • @jameswhite5116
    @jameswhite5116Ай бұрын

    Another scenario. Costco (Tracy, CA) said, "they used to let drivers park on their lot. But drivers leave such a mess that they (Costco) don't allow parking."

  • @elvissboh
    @elvissbohАй бұрын

    Good video. Thanks

  • @jonathansimmons3731
    @jonathansimmons3731Ай бұрын

    Fatigue is your limit if you have your own authority

  • @ronnieallen6986
    @ronnieallen6986Ай бұрын

    The law states can PC if a driver runs out at customer to the nearest safe haven like a truck stop or PC to get something to eat only time to us PC

  • @Wesker1213Gaming

    @Wesker1213Gaming

    Ай бұрын

    Company policy as it relates to personal conveyance supercedes law. I.e. Company policy can be more restrictive, as is the case with my company.

  • @patmurray1076
    @patmurray1076Ай бұрын

    CALL THE POLICE ASAP!!!

  • @NerdyHoodReviews
    @NerdyHoodReviewsАй бұрын

    I asked if i could use PC to go home and i had only few minutes left on clock. My house was only 1hour away and i was gonna have a day off. I was told NO, that it's only for gettin to the closest safe haven.

  • @TruckerNate97
    @TruckerNate97Ай бұрын

    That's why I always go off duty when at a shipper or receiver so I can do a split shift

  • @Super29Vegas

    @Super29Vegas

    Ай бұрын

    However I do split sleeper 7-3... 7-3 is better then 8-2 whatever comes first

  • @vaskodalaverataoriginalanew
    @vaskodalaverataoriginalanewАй бұрын

    He can absolutely legal go to the safest parking there is nothing to discuss

  • @allgasnobrakes123
    @allgasnobrakes123Ай бұрын

    I’m at Prime and we get one hour of PC per day. If you abuse it, you lose it period. Most of these drivers have lost their PC privileges per their company and just aren’t being honest about it. Yes, it is completely legal but as you said, drivers have to comply to company policy. That driver should have been able to PC to a truck stop and put in the note safe parking or truck stop, something like that.

  • @hitman-br9un
    @hitman-br9unАй бұрын

    By all means, this is chanel is the ONLY voice for truckers out there. This is great, but as a trucker I feel ashamed as well how disorganized we are. Mother Trucker channel, thank You for being out there and putting so much effort to help your fellow truckers. I sincerely thank You!

  • @MuthaTrucker

    @MuthaTrucker

    Ай бұрын

    appreciate you as well. Thank you for the kind words and always praying for you health, wealth and happiness. Be safe out there driver

  • @mrthomas3996
    @mrthomas3996Ай бұрын

    This happens every day and it’s bull 💩

  • @BM-if9zn
    @BM-if9znАй бұрын

    I hope the driver has a copy of the communication with the company along with the security guard video. An attorney may be able to assist him. So much BS

  • @Jeff-kj3mk
    @Jeff-kj3mkАй бұрын

    I have an ELD exempt truck use paper logs.I run SAFELY on my own terms.If im tired i take a nap otherwise i drive.I dont need the DOT telling me when to drive,rest ,go to the bathroom, etc......

  • @SENSUI347

    @SENSUI347

    Ай бұрын

    HOW CAN I GET AN EXEMPT 🛻

  • @puppswarm6682
    @puppswarm6682Ай бұрын

    Guidance: No, except for the one exception described in Guidance Question 26 to 49 CFR 395.8 where a driver who runs out of hours while at a shipper’s or receiver’s facility may drive from that facility to a nearby, safe location to park, provided that the driver allows adequate time to obtain rest in accordance with daily minimum off-duty periods under the Hours of Service rules before beginning to drive. Personal conveyance is those times where a driver is operating solely for a non-business purpose and cannot be used to extend the duty day

  • @bharriott4404
    @bharriott4404Ай бұрын

    I just experience this exactly situation Friday at my delivery🤦🏾

  • @DARKSEID007
    @DARKSEID007Ай бұрын

    I know Alex is covering this pretty well with this refresher video, but will give my 2 cents. Some folks may agree, some may not, but so far 17 years of driving, 3 company audits, 1 DOT full company audit & no issues so far. Unfortunately I seen a few people on here that doesn't quite understand how the 8/2 or 7/3 split actually works. (This won't help to get you extra driving time like the agricultural 16hr rule, which extends driving time due to weather & safe haven conditions / once a week only) As long as you've gone off duty or sleeper birth for a minimum of 2 hours & have your tab set to go to the split setting, you're able to get your clock to stop at whatever time that you went off duty, it will stop counting, technically & will not begin until you start driving once again or go on duty. (Yes you may see it still counting down but as soon as the 2-hour Mark hits, it will give back that 2 hours automatically to your time along with the remaining part of that day and stops) (It can be used multiple days) You use the remaining time for that day, take an 8-hour break & then whatever time you used previously, up to going off duty, to do that split, you gain back for the next morning or you can do a full 10 hour to completely reset. (This is how some folks are able to deliver loads on time, if they get stuck in an accident or traffic & such, just gotta decide if you want the 2hr break to get that lost time back) Another major sticking point, if you are not (PHYSICALLY) unloading that trailer, you (DO NOT) have to be in the unloading line. Log it 15-30 mins and go off-duty. (Some companies are A-holes& want you on that line especially for LTL, but again, only if YOU are unloading it, it has to be on-duty) PC can be used as long as you are not advancing your load, whether it be for mileage or starting point or physically loading. This is why no touch freight is nice. If you do happen to be kicked off of a property you can PC away from there go do your 10 hour (if needed) or the remaining time needed to drive legally, then return to the property, whether it be at the gate or at the roadway near the gate safely, to where you can begin your day. As long as you're pretty well within a few hundred feet of the facility, then you're legally staying within the rules for PC conveyance.

  • @Trtrucking79
    @Trtrucking79Ай бұрын

    Happened to me.. I called the company I’m leased to and informed them that my tablet screen went black.. then they use paper logs til it’s fixed… I just needed to hear the words use paper logs..🤷

  • @vf12497439
    @vf12497439Ай бұрын

    Nothing new about being kicked off the customers property after your loaded or empty. Call your company logs/compliance/safety line and explain I’m out of hours and they are demanding I leave. There is no legal parking here and I need to go to the nearest safe/legal parking. If your company leaves you hanging to catch a parking ticket I would find another job. 23+ year driver here and I’ve seen different angles and a reasonable company will say they will fix your eld and just go to the closest legal parking. A shit company that you need to leave will say pull out on the street and catch a parking ticket. DONT WORK FOR SHIT COMPANIES THAT WILL LEAVE YOU IN UNSAFE LOCATIONS!!!!!

  • @MrHhill2001
    @MrHhill2001Ай бұрын

    This dude is correct

  • @drsingingeagle
    @drsingingeagleАй бұрын

    This is yet another reason I stopped driving for others and got my own damn truck.

  • @adamantium_1
    @adamantium_1Ай бұрын

    When I worked at Heartland Express, we were allowed to PC home up to under 100 miles❤

  • @Super29Vegas

    @Super29Vegas

    Ай бұрын

    Most companies allow that not sure this days

  • @Boxtruckin
    @BoxtruckinАй бұрын

    I use “ food & entertainment “ for pc all the time. Just passed a level 2 & level 2 with these

  • @daveshangar6820
    @daveshangar682013 күн бұрын

    Problem: No parking? Solution: No deliveries! BRING BACK PAPER LOGS

  • @younuschowhan5436
    @younuschowhan5436Ай бұрын

    I am a single driver of my own company ( authority ) once I used PC miles from Albany NY to Binghamton NY which is about 160 miles and motive eld company dropped my reading.

  • @tc3354
    @tc3354Ай бұрын

    That’s some bull 💩

  • @NolocoLawrence
    @NolocoLawrenceАй бұрын

    I kind of know this. The problem that doesn't seem to have a resolution is when you're working for a local company or I mean it doesn't necessarily have to be it could be corporate and they route you in such a way That if you were to stop to get fuel or if you needed to use the restroom. You have so many stops and anything outside of that and if it's an accident it doesn't matter they don't seem to understand that you need to provide more time for getting back. Because otherwise you don't have personal conveyance or just when you run out of hours. So you might be like an hour or 30 minutes or 20 minutes from the yard but now you're SOL. That's that's something we need some sort of personal conveyance for

  • @paullogan9960
    @paullogan9960Ай бұрын

    One small question on P.C. I delivered into Los Angeles, Ca. ( This was 2 decades ago) on a Monday, nothing Tuesday, Wednesday lunch called in and nothing. Told Dispatcher Have a good weekend and bobtailed to Pensacola, Fl., 3.5 days to arrive at home show P.C. the whole time ? Note in logs Home bound? Took a 10 day vacation at arrival. What does P.C. say for that many days?

  • @vendingdudes
    @vendingdudesАй бұрын

    It is unfortunate this driver is not a regular Mutha Trucker viewer. He would have known to just respond "oh, i can't stay? Ok, mo problem. I'll just hit PC and notate "driving to nearest safe and reasonable location per safety official". Have a good night, sir. Zero conflict, PC works for you, not against you

  • @gregflock380
    @gregflock380Ай бұрын

    i have 20 yrs in trucking now.....i refuse to put up with any and all bullshit now.......i have a perfect job now because i REFUSE to put up with ANY bullshit....i dont touch freight i dont sleep in trucks...i sleep in hilton hotels...i have 3 day weekends.....they call me at the hotel when my load is ready.....

  • @ak_getright9905

    @ak_getright9905

    Ай бұрын

    Who do you work for and what account? Gonna go tell all the foreigners

  • @kevinernst8493
    @kevinernst8493Ай бұрын

    Im glad to see someone reads rules. Problem i see is somebody could utilize that time to extend hours. Why a person would move a load for free is crazy but we do live in a crazy world. Fuel is expensive im not going to do the math on cost of 1200 miles doing a pc

  • @100pyatt
    @100pyattАй бұрын

    Follow the FMCSA guidance to the T and eliminate getting in trouble for PC ✌🏼✅

  • @davidkeys6192
    @davidkeys6192Ай бұрын

    When told too leave and you are out of driving hours make the shipper or receiver call the police and have you trespassed and then have the officer sign your logbook making you drive from the property to a safehaven and your covered. If the company kicks back on you for any reason from this trespass then it's money in your bank account when you take them to court.

  • @interestingcomments5178
    @interestingcomments5178Ай бұрын

    I refuse to work anywhere with unreasonable PC limits.

  • @WilliamChasteen
    @WilliamChasteenАй бұрын

    Walmart and Sam's Distribution centers are notorious for this.

  • @jeffarmstrong2920
    @jeffarmstrong2920Ай бұрын

    I have told you many times before that legend transport tells us to use it all the time to deliver and or go to pick up a load then once out of hrs they say use it to a truck stop next to you after all that

  • @dondunham9287
    @dondunham9287Ай бұрын

    If I'm delayed by the customer or traffic from getting to safe parking, I flag it, usually consult safety, then PC then explain in remarks. It's rare and not used to advance loads anymore than the first available safe parking. Haven't had trouble yet.

  • @lordvader_lllgaming6273
    @lordvader_lllgaming6273Ай бұрын

    Walmart did this to me before as well trrated to call the police

  • @demariojefferson1988
    @demariojefferson1988Ай бұрын

    A company fired me for using their 25 mile pc limit for finding a safe haven 😆

  • @westcoast7380
    @westcoast7380Ай бұрын

    That is on you when you get caught.

  • @sierrajade63
    @sierrajade63Ай бұрын

    5 hours to get unloaded, with short hours should have went off duty. I always do.

  • @johnnycray4427
    @johnnycray4427Ай бұрын

    We have to SUE (class action lawsuit) the federal government; for not working with us, & leaving too much grey area for P.C, not providing adequate parking, & unfair business practices

  • @shannnism
    @shannnismАй бұрын

    This is exactly why companies are trash. if I am going to stay in this industry, I am going to have my own unit. I would rather put up with the peaks and valleys of owner-operator then deal with stupid company bullshit. Unfair stupid company bullshit. Just because a company gives a driver good benefits, It does not mean that they necessarily give a shit about you. This type of dumb shit proves it.

  • @gamblicious1
    @gamblicious1Ай бұрын

    You cant use personal conveyance with a trailer attached whether its loaded or empty 😞 this is what New York dot told me

  • @clubbertruck

    @clubbertruck

    Ай бұрын

    Wrong

  • @dreadzjackson5349

    @dreadzjackson5349

    Ай бұрын

    If you are not dispatched you can PC across the country most of these dot officers enforce the rules that they want to enforce

  • @rrios283s73

    @rrios283s73

    Ай бұрын

    1st thing, do not go to NY

  • @Troutfisher0311

    @Troutfisher0311

    Ай бұрын

    That is bum info. You absolutely can pc loaded, empty, whatever.

  • @benkok02
    @benkok02Ай бұрын

    Did go from North Dakota to east texas on pc with trailer no problems with two inspections by Poe. No problems at all if you know the rules and be polite to officer.

  • @warntheidiotmasses7114
    @warntheidiotmasses7114Ай бұрын

    How come doctors and lawyers don’t have to put up with such horse shite?

  • @robfromthefuture214
    @robfromthefuture214Ай бұрын

    This is the ONLY rule: PC either BEFORE your day actually starts, or use it at the FINAL STRETCH of your run. And that’s if your company even allows you to PC without questioning you every single time you use it. Theres no other way. I get it. I abuse PC. There’s going to be times where we all have to misuse it to get the job done. But you can’t put yourself in a position where you increase the chances of being caught while IN THE ACT of doing it.

  • @Trucker4Life84
    @Trucker4Life84Ай бұрын

    I mostly drive for small companies but majority of them always tell me to drive on PC and usually give me feedback when I tell them no. After some time I'll leave because I won't jeopardize my license for the sake of an extra hour.

  • @DD20248
    @DD20248Ай бұрын

    For those of us driving otr,going home on PC 1200 miles from a so called drop lot is not an option as a company driver.Just think of the cost in fuel.

  • @1966msteel
    @1966msteelАй бұрын

    That's a situation that you take to your company Safety Coordinator when the customer is demanding that you leave there property and your out of hours and it's against your companies policy to move on personal conveyance.

  • @artificialIntelligence-rt5qn
    @artificialIntelligence-rt5qnАй бұрын

    we going to fine these drivers,

  • @shaun2318
    @shaun2318Ай бұрын

    Va State Police told me I can’t use PC to advance a load even if going to a restaurant or my home is on the way. He said I would have to return to the spot I started my PC and go from there. That was loaded or empty

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