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@amiloooo

2 жыл бұрын

Driving mountains ⛰ is very technical, I would think is a most to train drivers on how to go about driving a mountain pass going up and down because you need to know both, I drive a 26' box truck OTR and I see this Semi guys almost running over people just because after they get up to speed they don't like to stop, what happened to this young boy is VERY unfortunate, but what happened to the family members that loss love ones in this accident have bad as well...

@matthewgehring1834

2 жыл бұрын

It is sad. I let the Jake do the work and come down a little slower

@RagedDoDo

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewgehring1834 Yep, come down that hill many times without even thinking about the brake pedal. Unfortunately have to be held responsible for the 4 people that didn't walk away.

@paublitoclavounclavito7396

2 жыл бұрын

He got what he deserved what dummy RIP to all does ppl

@paublitoclavounclavito7396

2 жыл бұрын

I drove down that mountain 🏔 it’s dangerous

I’m from Colorado, I was taught you can come down the mountain a million times to slow, but you’ll only come down to fast once. I’ve used that philosophy for 20 yrs. Drivers need to respect any grade anywhere. Just be careful!

@lilliearizona

2 жыл бұрын

I had just heard that saying recently. And now I make it mantra. Never hurts to go slower

@SolarWraith

2 жыл бұрын

Wise words to live by.

@barryedwards1819

2 жыл бұрын

it takes 3×the braking force to stop a loaded truck at 65 as compared to 40 to 45 mph. those downhill limits are set with alot of thought and understanding of physics. watch that application gauge if its creeping up to 30 get off the road now. 35 is an all around safe speed, it may seem slow to others but it's your life and others that hang in the balance. driving since 1985 and the best advice I ever got was give 100%of your attention to driving the truck as most problems can be avoided if your on top of things.

@justindampier9017

2 жыл бұрын

Same goes for curves. I was told that years ago. Over confident drivers scare me!

@wesleybaldwin7199

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly how I was taught. Never lost my brakes , never smoked them.

I drove one of the wreckers that cleaned up that unbelievable mess. That was made. I had to move vehicles so they could remove bodies from that carnage. That is a day that I will never be able to forget. That could’ve be avoided many different ways. But ultimately he was afraid that he was gonna die so he chose the way he did to end that story. We come down the same mountains with tractor trailers on the back of our trucks fully loaded. Well over the 130k mark. Jus gotta respect the mountains and take your time. Who cares if they get mad cause you came down too slow.

@jsf8145

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I'm new to driving (just got my CDL in Idaho) and I'm going to make sure I drive extra slow in a lower gear down hills. I don't care if I'm only going 10 mph down hill and it takes me 1 hour to drive 10 miles down the mountain. I'd rather put on my flashers and enjoy the much safer slow ride down. At the end of the day I'll be 1 hour late or lose 1 hour of pay (an extra $50), but everyone around me will be safe. Is it really worth making an extra $100 to go down hill at lightening speed to make better time? Not to me. If they want to fire me & would rather worship the value of the Almighty dollar while sacrificing everyones safety, I'll gladly toss them the keys & leave.

@spontaneousexpress

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsf8145 for a newbie, I wasn't gonna try to influence what you are being tought. I wasn't gonna say it but I hope you remember this someday. with less that 50 percent braking power (ie, only trailer brakes or less is working), you can come down ANY hill safely if it is on a highway and traffic isn't backed up and weather is good. Let the truck do the braking. At the top of the hill, Pop it into one or two gears lower than you climbed the hill with and leave it there untouched. Flip that engine brake if you have one. If you don't, just let the GOVERNOR do the work and brake intermittently. (Don't ride the brakes). Plug you ears and let that fat lady sing you to the bottom of the hill!

@darkhorse2reign

2 жыл бұрын

I've driven I-70 with an empty truck and trailer and it's challenging to go even normal speeds down steep grades. I was going about 45 and even with jakes it was tough to stay off the brakes, not over rev the engine, take curves the correct speed, and try not to impede traffic. At any given time one of those factors will take a backseat to the other factors and then the process starts over. I'm in the zone during that process - when my speed changes due to terrain or traffic or a curve I make a change. It's like a chess match. Gotta have skills and brains and also solid emotional skills to stay calm and in the moment. As far as punishment? The jury heard the facts and they are in the best position to judge him, not me.

@omari8619

2 жыл бұрын

I live in CO but don’t go pass Golden even if they pay me a million 💵 because The Danger ⚠️ on driving I-70 mountains is really. No matter how little the steeps are always treat em seriously. I think the guy didn’t have proper mountain driving stills & just found himself on I-70.

@1724nine

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. As a driver that has been in the passenger seat of many of yalls tow truckers trucks I can totally respect your job. It's hard enough coming down the mountain with 80k on board but your so right. Go to slow vs to fast and live to tell the tale.

I'm 38, I started at 21 and I know people were praying for me. Because no amount of luck would've brought me this far in this industry. I'm sending prayers out to the families of the lost ones and for this young man. This is a lost for all of us in the trucking industry.

@santiagogarza4460

2 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

@SCRaetz

2 жыл бұрын

Amen dude. When I was a trucker I had _more than a few_ instances where I was saved by the Lord. There was one particular instance where I was pinned in between 2 jack-knifed trucks on I-80 through Nebraska. There was maybe 30 yards in between both trucks on both sides. It was in the middle of a freak blizzard. Nobody lost their lives. When I told my mother about the incident, she said that she was woken up at 3am (roughly 13 hours before it) and could not go back to sleep until she prayed for my safety. Moreover, *one of her friends* had the sudden inclination to pray for me MOMENTS before the incident happened!! Don't tell me prayer doesn't work! May the Lord Jesus Christ keep you safe as well, brother.

@andresnoneya

2 жыл бұрын

Well said brother!

Hate that those people lost their lives and hate that he may lose his life, but you got to take trucking serious. I've only been a driver for a year and I don't take no chances and I do my pre and post trips! You just never know what may happen!

@cortransport

2 жыл бұрын

Good job Chyne.. all drivers should do pre and post inspections. But that’s not the only problem that causes accidents. The inspections is good mainly to avoid expensive breakdowns on the road and having someone stamp themselves on back of our trailers. There are other and most common causes of avoidable accidents is reckless driving.. people on phone, fatigue, inexperience drivers, a mind with problems, drivers on sort of drug etc. This driver on the video was reckless driving not because he didn’t do his pre.. this guy didn’t even touch his breaks(the pre was his excused on court).. having a few ramps to escaped he decided to roller coaster down the highway instead.. or not enough experience or just not a clean mind. Who knows. I tell people Let’s be complete drivers. And do all that is part of being a truck driver. Distraction goes as far as Some company not hiring drivers with child support because problems cause distraction on road. This gets really deep. Stay safe Chyne.. see ya on the road

@redranger78web21

2 жыл бұрын

Yes , agreed . I just don't understand why?? Maybe I don't want to know,. Lost lives because of this SCUMBAG,. A twisted mind ,. He had , plenty of time, to do the right thing, but , at the top of the mountain, swerving over to try and hit , two different vehicles,. Including escape ramps he didn't stop on or take the exit to try and stop. But , he didn't. This is my emoji to dirt bag 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😠

@FonzoTheTrucker

2 жыл бұрын

@@redranger78web21 Exactly!!!

@redranger78web21

2 жыл бұрын

@@FonzoTheTrucker Hey , thanks, what's your opinion on it? He did it on purpose ? I used to drive truck myself,. I haven't since 2009 , haven't been on the road since,. I have seen a lot of bad things out there when I did , plus , watching these videos for a couple of years ,. I had a person, on Highway 101 southern Oregon coast, north of my home town, I was empty , and they were going slower than the speed limit, it was a disaster waiting to happen, it did , I jackknifed the truck, at a spit second,. I don't know what people's problem is , if I would have been loaded normally I would have, I was dead heading north, to pickup a load , but , this person slammed on the brakes , insurance, and myself probably would have put me behind bars, and big payout to the family ,. Yup , then at a truck stop, in Redding CA, messed with the air brake hose , and I didn't check it , so I got into a accident, going across a bridge, where they , had part of the road blocked, for repairs,. The trailer air line, and the wire for the Jake brakes, unhooked, so I had no Jake's ,. I couldn't downshift, because of it , both cost me my job , This video of this idiot? I don't understand how anyone can pull that ? Heartless spineless piece of trash . 👍👍

@FonzoTheTrucker

2 жыл бұрын

@@redranger78web21 I know anything can happen after driving off, but if you fail to pre trip.... A person should not be driving professionally!!!

Sometimes pride can be a factor too. I respect absolutely EVERY curve, and absolutely EVERY decline, and anything that could stop me from handling my vehicle safely. Stay safe y’all.

@sandasturner9529

2 жыл бұрын

THIS GUY GETS IT ONE CURVE/HILL/DESCENT/EXIT TAKEN AT A SPECIFIC MILE MARKER IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME CURVE/ HILL/DESCENT/EXIT AT THE SAME MILE MARKER TOMORROW OR THE DAY BEFORE.

@casteel765

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny you mentioned pride... there are limp dick super truckers out on this road who would tell you that if that guy was a real truck driver like them he would have made it traveling 80 miles an hour.

@michaelchason9170

2 жыл бұрын

The day a driver gets overconfident is the day he or she needs to get out of the seat

@daudyisrael6142

2 жыл бұрын

I tried to warn people. It isn't worth it. Better safe than sorry. Now, at least 5 lives ruined

@smk4902

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the time is bad judgement due to inexperience.

He wasn't ready to be a truck driver,actually driving a truck ITS NOT FOR EVERYBODY

@daiviontaylor

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely agree.

@yorkiepudd7404

2 жыл бұрын

@@daiviontaylor - Totally agree with on that. as been said in UK for years that drivers of all classes, no longer taught to drive only on how to pass a test. Then they wonder standards are slipping away.

@bigred1247

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta have that diesel in your blood.

@yorkiepudd7404

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigred1247 - yep sure have, did 20 years as uk international class 1, saw a big part of the world & got paid to do it lol

@manueltorres7941

2 жыл бұрын

Reasons why I’m starting non cdl hotshot & slowly working my way up dealing with weight. I do have a class A & almost ready to step up the weight from 10k to 15-20k. Slowly but surly,

I drive I70 all the time and is shocking how fast some of these “professionals” go down. CDL A driver for two years and I don’t give a damn how long it takes me to get there, it’s all about staying safe.

@supertrucker1674

2 жыл бұрын

stay in the right lane where you belong...rook

@billking922

2 жыл бұрын

@@supertrucker1674 keep on trucking like a super trucker. You’ll be the next to kill innocent folk with your attitude.

@VM-sp7ii

2 жыл бұрын

Some of us truck drivers are empty so we can afford little higher speed. I can go down in 8 gear on steep hill empty using engine break only

@masonkanterbury3007

2 жыл бұрын

Thank God for people like you. F the trolls.

I’m 26 years old, currently in school to get my CDL. This will forever haunt me from now on. Huge eye opener for me and I will always remember this incident in the future to remind myself that THIS ISNT A JOKE and to ALWAYS do my pre-trip inspections regardless of experience.I wish the best for this young man… I really do and my heart goes out to the family’s and victims that lost their lives 🙏🏽 sad situation overall. Believe me when I say my jaw dropped the entire video.

You would actually be amazed, at how many drivers do not do Pre-Trip, or Post Trip inspections! But I think the bigger problem, is the "It'll never happen to me" mentality, that most people, not just Truckers, have. There's a reason for those "Trucks use lower gear" signs, and reduced speed limits, yet, there are a lot of drivers that ignore them. "Do Stupid things, win Stupid Prizes".

@justinodell3737

2 жыл бұрын

And I've seen a lot of trucks bypass the take check areas at the top of the downgrade.

@justinodell3737

2 жыл бұрын

Break check

@dustbat

2 жыл бұрын

one of the problems on pre trip is the time factor. Bosses telling you you are too slow getting out of the yard. On a newby, how will he cut that time? Sloppy pre trip. An older hand will tell boss, it takes what it takes.

@chrisspeer3257

2 жыл бұрын

Just because I have a rope a hat and a pair of boots does that make me a cowboy .just becuse you have CDL Doesn't make you a truck driver . I blame the company also for putting him in that situation knowing he was Green. And I am sure they where probably pushing him becuse he was new and young . This is the kinda shit that can happen to anybody.

@rednecksandhammers66

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisspeer3257 as a Driver, You represent the company. However, You alone, are responsible for the safe operation of that truck. unless there is a more qualified driver with you, YOU ARE THE SHOW! While I agree a CDL doesn't make you a driver, you are still responsible for what occurs, when you take the task.

I’m a CDL driver. I lost my brakes and my truck burned to the ground at that EXACT location. This happened “in the heat of the moment”. NO ONE that’s human can truly say what to do under this kind of pressure. This is a life experience for him. An experienced truckers union should be present at his sentencing and give a disposition at the hearing because there are definitely some mitigating factors that should be considered in his behalf

@craigj.651

2 жыл бұрын

You were going too fast right? Dont blame the mountain.

@alcnya

2 жыл бұрын

Me and another driver was just saying the same thing. 100%

@alcnya

2 жыл бұрын

Hope his lawyers are on it.

@LK-dm7kx

2 жыл бұрын

His boss should be charged too. A lot of companies put you in the truck with 3 month experience. The poor driver has to answer questions for anything that can happen. 90% of drivers have no clue about truck operation and it's components. They are just a robot seating in the driver seat and counting the miles for the week.

@ewizzle2

2 жыл бұрын

@@LK-dm7kx everyone has to start somewhere No one is born driving

I am a second generation truck driver i have been driving from the age of 18 and am now 71 the best advice my father gave to me was you go down a grade at the same speed you go up it and you will never go wrong take your time and respect the road 🙋‍♂️🇬🇧

When I drove in the mountains(Donner Pass(CA), the gourds(TN), well, really, in evey mountainous State), my stress level increased a thousand percent and my speed decreased to 25mph. White knuckling all the way...this was Not the time to relax...I saw everything in front of the truck, behind the truck, on both sides of the truck, the Runaway Ramps, including the other truckers who would *Speed* around me(I was going too slow)...and the stares I would receive from them😔(but I didn't care, I wasn't going to crash with that freight). That feeling didn't last long though. Once I was safe. I thanked God for keeping things in order, Everytime! A sigh of relief, for Real. God kept me in the mountains until I was Not afraid to deliver freight in the mountains. I was sooo happy to be set free from mountain driving. And, there's No fear, now...much respect for the grades, though. Even when driving a car...🚨! Hope that young man is given some mercy. Wow! 4 deaths...so sorry for him and the families, with loss. Be Safe, Truckers! Shalom❤️💜❤️

@marquishagaddes9757

2 жыл бұрын

I drive in Tennessee and these mountains get rough. Drive safe, get back home.

@truckergal

2 жыл бұрын

You inspire me Monae! 🙏

These newbies aren't being trained enough during different terrains, they must be trained more, especially in snow.

@niighthawk

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right, companies and local schools and just pumping student out with only 3 weeks of training.

@ronniebenoit4081

2 жыл бұрын

They're train in "school" how to double clutch, parallel park log books and take a 10 hour break....there's no pride in these new drivers. Head phones on foot up on the dash...he'll I seen a driver with 4 screens on his windshield and dash..... WTF !!!!

@user-dn2dr8px3d

2 жыл бұрын

I think it has to do with the trainers.most r just looking for the money.i personally think that company shouldn't use trainers like that because they don't care about teaching or getting there student ready for the road they only care about how much money there going to make and if u add in a company that only wants to move freight.to me it's a accidents waiting to happen but I'm a new driver what do I no

@coach2208

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe they're trained in any school, the way they train these newbies is that they set up 4 cones in a parking lot and if they can get the trailer in between the cones, THEY get their license.

@boogeronthewall1373

2 жыл бұрын

I spent 6 1/2 years as a forklift inspector before I decided to drive a truck. My dad who also drives said son don’t you roll out that gate if you know you have a defect cause know the company will hang you out to dry. To this day I pre trip post trip anything I find I go to the shop. I see guys with the same years of driving as me rolling out the gate with air leaks not giving a damn. Hell one driver brought a trailer in with loose lug nuts. New drivers old drivers half and half. You got those that care for there job and you got those that don’t care for there job. Those that don’t care need to turn there keys in before they hurt or kill someone.

And they wanna shove 18y olds into trucks, many of us grew up around trucks and could've handled it at a young age.... but in the era of trainers fresh out of school training trainees that's a scary thought.

@joshmitchell3516

2 жыл бұрын

Its not the age where I'm from we were all driving truck at the age of 18 thru the rockies

@chrisarcher4098

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshmitchell3516 heard that, I grew up near Stennis Space Center in Mississippi learned to drive a 78 International cab over on the lease roads back and forth starting at age 6. Like I said some of us grew up doing this others weren't as fortunate.

@inthastreetzwithkj5564

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a 19yr old truck driver, got my license at 18 never had a problem. Of course I had experience form my dad who has been driving for 20 years, but that’s not the point. Age has nothing to do with it. It’s attention to detail, common sense, and perception

@inthastreetzwithkj5564

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t drive a automatic either 😂

@putitherepls

2 жыл бұрын

@@inthastreetzwithkj5564 well said brother. I understand your point completely. Every person is different. It makes it difficult for the young ones since generalized statements hurts their opportunities. Ofc, this is a result of other young ones who ruined their rep for them already.

My prayers go out to this young man and his family and all the victims of this accident☝️🌎❤️!!!!

On my first week of driving, my mentor dropped me because I went down steep downgrades at night while raining going about 45 mph (and sometimes less) she was angry I wasn't going 65 and accused me of trying to slow her down. She told my company I fell asleep driving in retaliation (Luckily the trucks are kind of high tech and if I fell asleep it would record it) Anyhow, I'm glad I refused to do what she wanted especially seeing this video!

@tonytorres1624

2 жыл бұрын

And you are in your right, don’t let some experience driver abuse of you for any reason.

If they let him off, this young man has to live with the fact that he killed those people because of his negligence. I pray for the families that lost their loved ones and this young man! God help them to heal.

Hell yeah driving takes experience. No rookie needs to take mountain loads.

@Ryan_Stewart

2 жыл бұрын

Did 3 weeks with a trainer doing nothing but mountain loads, it was one of the things my trainer had to sign off on... imo company has some blame slacking on training. Hope all the victims sue, mind you I'm a Midwest driver, no mountains for me on my day to day

@davidtrevino5211

2 жыл бұрын

Most companies don't train their new drivers at all to drive in the mountains...

@worthyrobinson

2 жыл бұрын

From nc I did my 1 trip Flagstaff u got to have it in u

Props to you for having empathy for the young driver. Prayers for him and the ones lost.

I lived in Denver when I got my CDL 20+ years ago. That was part of our driving program to go to those mountains for practice/learning. I'm sure not many states can provide that to teach the students properly. Way too many rookies right now on the road compared to before. He was trying to get it in a gear when he burned his brakes?! WHAT?! Everybody knows that you must have the truck in proper gear BEFORE the downgrade and not remove it under any circumstances ! I know that every truck is different, but I'm sure I can go down in my Cascadia fully loaded at the speed limit (45) using the proper gear and Jake's without even touching the brakes. Pretrip probably would not save from it (doesnt say if there were any problems) but definitely says he was not in a gear going down using brakes - big no no. Driver did not have proper training.

I always thought Mountain driving should be an endorsement on your CDL

@sylvanusdemedeiros848

2 жыл бұрын

I agree👍

@zacharymorris5313

2 жыл бұрын

I drive a mixer in the hills a lot here in Colorado and I absolutely agree with you that it should be an endorsement. It's not for inexperienced for timid.

@miastrong151

2 жыл бұрын

If he is from Colorado, he knows I-70. Those are crocodile tears.

@julioramirez9558

2 жыл бұрын

100% accurate

@SNAKE301981

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I stay on I-10

I'm studying now for my CDL. My prayers go out for him and the people who lost their lives. Every time we wake up it's a Gift from God 🙏, .

@enrique1765

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck man! You got this !!

@bunbohue369

2 жыл бұрын

god is dead

I ran through those mountains many times, I never take it for granted. Please take your time,that freight isn't more important than your life,or the public's life.

I read into this case when it happened back in 2019 here is what I learned he got his CDL and drove local near Houston Texas for a year then he was so happy when he got a new job to run OTR because he could make more money 💴 to support his son that’s in Cuba but literally 3 weeks later this accident happened just crazy but he’s NEVER driven in the mountains so he didn’t know the what to do so when he was coming down the mountains he tried to slow down by down shifting the transmission and he couldn’t get it back into gear so he went down in neutral and when he burned the brakes he had no way to stop the truck and he was scared!!!!! I’ve got to say that I feel sorry for this guy because he didn’t know what he was getting into and now his freedom is on the line just crazy

@keilonthomas8401

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly that judge and prosecutor dont know that they assume he knew better . I gave him a year experience including training just based off his age alone. This big trucking companies get far too many passes i preach too people if the company you working for equipment is shit don't drive that truck tell them go fuck they self understand you have the gold ticket you can go anywhere however keep at least $2,000.00 saved at all time and travel light that way you can always get home.

@meatwrd

2 ай бұрын

Should have done more training before hopping behind the wheel , no excuses. Those trucks are the biggest , heaviest things on the road and you choose to go down a mountain that you’ve never been on before therefore no training either ? 🤔 deserves everything the judge will throw at him !

And most people think trucking is easy!!!🤣 it is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. It’s a high stress, highly attentive and very physically demanding job that will destroy your body physically and mentally if you don’t take care of both..Respect your truck, respect the road conditions. In 30 yrs and 4 million miles, I have never had an accident because I respect my rig, I respect the load I’m hauling and I respect the road conditions. Keep the shiny side up.

@alannelson6723

2 жыл бұрын

@Donald Trump jr once ypu loose all but about 70 pounds of air, your parking brake springs will start to set. But if your going any speed or down a very long grade.... it will not take long before you burn through them. If your not in a gear where you can use your engine to start dumping speed and motion. Your in a little bit of trouble. Evan In a well maintained truck, shit happens.

@anytime2136

2 жыл бұрын

Amen Brother, Amen.

@elmerelless674

2 жыл бұрын

@Donald Trump jr he didn't run out of air his brakes overheated and they lose friction

@stevanledesma9651

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say physically demanding, just mentally.

@raystroud8342

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevanledesma9651 No. It is very physically demanding. Climbing in and out all day long,trying not to fall out. Hold on to a big steering wheel and shift gears all day every day for years. Rough riding seats will hurt your back. OTR drivers getting fat cause of poor diet and lack of exercise. Use ratchet binders all day long and dragging chains to tie down heavy equipment just to move it a few miles and then untie it and put it all back up will wear out your elbows fingers wrist neck knees feet and ass. But oh, it's just driving. Right

I remember this accident well. He deserves every second of that sentence. I've been driving for almost 20 years. I have run almost every steep grade in this country numerous times. Never once have I had a problem. He blew past 2 RUNAWAY TRUCK RAMPS! TWO!!! Four people died as a result.

@kennethfielder2371

2 жыл бұрын

And don't forget he tried blaming the truck which was parked on shoulder for whatever reason as being the cause of the accident.

@Polemic-2525

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethfielder2371 He knew he was in trouble going down that hill , he had options. You wouldn't think anybody can be this stupid.

@handyvan3422

2 жыл бұрын

he ran past 4

I remember watching videos on KZread documenting the motorist footage. It was right before we went to trucking school. Made me pay attention for sure and respect the road more. Praying for him, the victims and their families. ❤️🙏🏼

Im 26. My first ever load roughly 70k lbs over the grape vine. This was 2 months ago. Thankfully i used to make alot of trips with my dad over the Sierra Nevada, so i understood how quickly it can go bad and what you need to do to not loose brakes. But holy shit i see so many drivers ride their brakes so much. It needs to be taught better that 80k lbs down a hill cant be done like a car.

I was thinking about this the while driving yesterday. Driving It’s a huge responsibility that takes patience and discipline. Taking the time to rest the night before checking the truck and really being patient taking your time is very important.

@truck6280

2 жыл бұрын

Tell them to raise rates then.

@kentcthahauler5354

2 жыл бұрын

@@truck6280 Ok, but people are still doing this as a career. So, be safe with the rates we have for now....

@MarkSmith-dh5dh

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm! Yes that's right this is everything that a professional driver would do because he/she wouldn't want to be the reason for destruction! This country's justice system should hold other so called professionals in the same light namely cops especially as it seems many cops across the country aren't qualified for their job either! #SMH 🇺🇸👍🏼

@MarkSmith-dh5dh

2 жыл бұрын

s safety should be followed per the safety department mandates! If you need more money for this then it's time to find a different line of work! When I was trucking. I always remembered this thought. Think the vehicles around you has your family members in them so do the things which you would want others doing around them! 🙏

@beats-by-skrill8925

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, is the trucking life worth it??? I'm thinking about transitioning to OTR. I work at a local site being a yard pilot/spotter bringing in $44,928 annually before bonuses and overtime. Wht is the average annual income for most drivers?

He missed multiple runaway ramps. Not wrecking his truck on the ramp was more important than risking innocent lives. There’s no excuse for that mindset.

@ohiojg1230

2 жыл бұрын

👎 no excuse at all for not hitting that runaway ramp...I just don't see how he could not take that ramp

@realf1rme

2 жыл бұрын

he couldnt process the thought correctly , when youre in a situation like that your mind goes out and dont know what to do and make the right decisions .

@chrishenze5284

2 жыл бұрын

@@realf1rme I disagree. How do you not know what you're doing isn't working? It's on him

@busterdan22

2 жыл бұрын

He was inexperienced and he panicked.... For him to get 25 to life.. Noway. 80,000lbs i take it thats the gross wt. How many axel on that truck? And whats the max speed for trucks in America? Im European and its 50mph. Max gross wt is 26ton or60, 000lbs with 5 axels.

@kodiak81973

2 жыл бұрын

His own words when this happened he said he didn't take the runaway ramp because he didn't want to wreck his bosses truck!!! And he didn't drive into the rear of the truck that was broke down where he crashed BECAUSE he didn't want to kill himself!!!! Every big hill or mountain these guys go down 80+ so fk this guy.

Proud you made me feel better thank you be safe bro

Powerful info thanks brother

Reminds me of a video I saw here on YT of a trucker talking about loosing his drive shaft at the top of a mountain and he knew there was a small town at the bottom. He was in tears telling how he was going to drive the truck off the mountain if he couldn’t get it slowed down before he reached the town. Luckily he got it slowed. In my mind we have an obligation of never plowing into innocent people even if it means taking our own life.

@pepepepe5710

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a hard, powerful, difficult to swallow statement…

@HooodTv

2 жыл бұрын

You know what that video was called?

@infoage265

2 жыл бұрын

Yea........ f*ck that. I'm not killing myself.

@marks3400

2 жыл бұрын

This is a sad story for both parties but we have to realize it was the truckers responsibility to get that lumber safely to its destination and he failed this was what we call in my industry a preventable accident

@jamesanderson6812

2 жыл бұрын

I tell people and other drivers “ I will brake for anyone no matter how stupid their decision , but I will not swerve to save an idiot and kill everyone around me with my truck and trailer “. I drive VERY defensively and try to never get to a place where an idiot can get himself , me and others killed .

It sounds to me he didn’t have much experience and panicked and really didn’t know what to do. I feel for him man. My condolences to the deceased families.

The way many of us were taught. Especially those of us from the coalfields where we have more on the trailer than most big road trucks and loads weigh is to go slow use the lower gears and never ever try to shift after you start down. Sadly most new drivers are only taught with empty trucks. They do not understand what effects it has on truck. I don’t think the pre trip had as much input on the accident as inexperience and being scared had on the young man

I was always told when I went to truck driving school in 1987 that it isn't how fast you can go but how fast you can stop if needed because you don't know what's around the next turn. How True.

I'm 22 with 10 months of experience driving and 8 months otr. The training I went through wasn't enough. I got a cdl in 3 weeks and after 2 weeks with a trainer i was getting calls to see if I was ready to be a solo driver (I wasn't and stuck with my trainer another 2 weeks). One of the first loads they had me take was from Dallas to Salt lake City. GPS gave me two options, I 70 or and extra hour on I 80. Not a damn reason why a fresh driver should be driving solo through Wyoming or Colorado in January after a snow storm. It still aggravates me thinking about it.

@clintonkirker5154

2 жыл бұрын

us-287 I-40 I-25 us-550 us-64 us-491 us-191 I-70 us-6 I-15 total miles 1242 The 2 routes you stated are longer mileage wise and takes about the same amount of time. Don’t blindly follow your gps or you will end up like this guy.

@deesplash7087

2 жыл бұрын

@@clintonkirker5154 so you’re saying he should have took one of the listed routes

@clintonkirker5154

2 жыл бұрын

@@deesplash7087 nope, the route I specified is the best route from Dallas to Salt Lake City.

@rosaliemacrae7355

2 жыл бұрын

What school did you attend

@TheShanesousley

2 жыл бұрын

Thats bullshit dude. Glad to see youre all good though.

Tragic incident. Poor families who lost loved ones.

I'm a trucker my self and pre-trip is one of the most important thing to start ur day with

Thank You Mr. MAI

I would say he deserves time due to life lost with the negligence. However, we let murderers post bail and walk out the same day with a slap on the wrist anymore. So why is this guy treated different. It is no different than how people are being treated from the Jan 6th incident vs rioters burning down cities. Huge double standards.

@Invictus13666

2 жыл бұрын

Plus 1 man.

@jonathanhudson9189

2 жыл бұрын

well said

@hellspawn3200

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone with a "professional" license or degree gets treated harsher than a "non professional"

@mattmoschkau84

2 жыл бұрын

@@hellspawn3200 Most truckers don’t understand what a professional is, it means you have a public responsibility with liability. It means you have to do the right thing or you will be held accountable.

@anthonydotson8652

2 жыл бұрын

He's Being Targeted Partially Because The Bigger the Conviction The .more Money Lawyers Can Sue For .

He won't do life in prison but his life is ruined none the less. Mountains must be respected.

@mucleboy0151

2 жыл бұрын

How? You know how maby violent criminals have turned der life around u sound dumb

@d3991c

2 жыл бұрын

@@mucleboy0151 because when you murder someone innocent, you have to live with that guilt for the rest of your life. There is no coming back from that.

@mucleboy0151

2 жыл бұрын

@@d3991c im sure it was incidental genius itd not like he purposely did it

They need more training and we need to show more repsect for our truckers who bring us all we need. It’s a very dangerous job and they deserve the respect and praise we gave them in 70’s and 80’s. Thank you all for your service America needs to appreciate you all more. 🙏🏼🌻🚛🚚

He is learning this lesson the hard way.

He stopped because he knew something was wrong, called two people for advice than headed down the mountain. People said his brakes were smoking and he didn't use the ramps knowing he had no breaks.

@timkis64

2 жыл бұрын

but if his brakes were allready smoking.the decision to then head down the mountain was doomed from the start.they sure as hell werent going to get any cooler if their allready smoking.

@peterlanum

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta be smarter than a truck 🚚

@jonathanlehr9206

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not making any excuses for him! He didn't use engine brakes, he didn't start in a low gear like all the signs say. He testified he was afraid to take the emergency ramp. Oh and he lied about having driven over mountains before. I've been over that part of 70 in a regular vehicle and you can tell all the truckers are being extra careful he basically did everything wrong and killed all those people for no reason.

The company should have to bear some huge consequences. Just because someone has a cdl doesn’t mean they are competent and capable of driving every truck, haul every load and travel every road in any condition. So I feel the company’s training, hiring and maintenance programs need to be made an example of. Too many companies are quick to hire to turn a dollar but they leave drivers to simple just figure it out on their own.

@vlissblisskiss

2 жыл бұрын

this is particularly the case with the majors. these mfs will hire anyone

@annv7485

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason I knew to use my Jake going down terain like that was the old school drivers at the CDL school I paid for. In training for my 1st driving job using the Jake was shot down added to that you can't down shift an auto shift to slow down because it will automatically go right back into the same gear you tried to shift out of. He should share the responsibility but the company should have most of the blame.

@brooksjb82

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly right and thank you.

@the-kilted-trucker59

2 жыл бұрын

Look I've been at it to long some days, but even with a calloused ass I still watch bone head truckers and other sights dealing with dumb drivers and accidents. It reminds me of the point that we must expect everything could happen.

@gtoboss1992

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

Mutha Trucker, i watch a lot of your vids, i love the content and you do a great job, THANK YOU for bringing this out there! This video brought me to finally say something, my history in transportation spans 40+ years, when i started there were not very many driving schools if any especially in Northern California, you had to know someone with a truck to get into trucking, i learned in the woods watering roads for a logging company on the weekends when i was 14, i drove an old Mack with twin sticks a 5 x 4 with an old 335 cummings, i learned at an early age the respect it took to handle a loaded vehicle of that size, at 18 i got my first semi a set of doubles hauling locally from the greater Chico area to Turlock and back i was trained for 2 weeks and turned loose, i get the lack of training today especially in the schools hell most of the trainers aren't competent enough to train and i hate to say this but it is true! I don't drive anymore but still hold my license but when i quit i was running the bay area up to the Northern Coast everyday with grades up to 16% and never had a problem, but i did see my fare share of rooky drivers in places they shouldn't have been...i guess i'm just getting at the fact that the training has to ramp up a few notches, people complain about pay well if you have the experience they will pay! you can pretty much name your price! Godspeed you Mutha Truckers! Keep up the great content! i'm out

I've traveled down this part of 70 a thousand times , respect and patience are key.

Guys like that are the ones I see on 68 in western MD. I'm going down the hills in a truck at 40-50mph and using mostly jake with a bit of brake pedal to keep the speed right and the brakes cool. I get passed all day long by these guys fully loaded(flatbeds, car haulers, etc). Friday I was coming east when I saw traffic stopped at the bottom of a long downgrade going west. Even from the other side of the highway the stench of burning brakes was strong. Someone had crashed and the right lane was closed at the bottom of the hill causing a traffic backup. Guys like this go flying down the hills cooking the brakes by the time they get to the bottom and it's only a matter of time before they push it a bit too fast and/or find stopped traffic at the bottom and simply can not stop. As far as sentencing, it does seem like a genuine accident and sentencing should take that into account. Him ever driving a truck again? Not even a chance. That should be a lifetime CDL loss. We just can't afford to keep having these idiots on the roads.

@Robocline

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I see that a lot too. I just shake my head and resolve that I won't have sympathy when they're in the ditch at the bottom of the hill.

@rudychacon7175

2 жыл бұрын

How would you keep it under control without jake brakes? Is engine braking enough?

@justanobody957

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudychacon7175 Yes..

@justanobody957

2 жыл бұрын

@@rudychacon7175 Jake brakes and engine brakes is the same thing just different terminology.. I cut my engine brakes on going downhill grades hauling tankers and before I knew it my speed is around 58mph.. The engine brakes are a life saver..

@michaelchason9170

2 жыл бұрын

My major was welding. When metal gets so hot it burns like oil

I grew up in that area where he crashed. I have watched trucks pulled over @ I-70 & Colfax my entire life w/ brake fires. That Genesee hill coming out of the mountains is very serious. He would have saved a lot of lives if would have just used the runaway ramp.

@wileycoyote3370

2 жыл бұрын

Try coming off that hill grossing 130.000 you will only do it wrong one time

@PARMYGUY

2 жыл бұрын

He probably didn't see it being a green horn. Why i say read every sign. Read every ramp bridge. Because it might not apply to you today but it will one day.

@TheShanesousley

2 жыл бұрын

He likely didnt see it honestly. Focusing on shifting and bam. No brakes. Its all about steering at that point I doubt he ever noticed.

When I got my CDL, my first run went through I70 Mountains to Denver, that was the scariest 5 hours of my life. I’m 35, I can only imagine what was going through that poor kids mind. THIS is why they don’t allow truck drivers to drive at such young ages. The experience and judgment you need to make the right decisions at the right time is critical in this industry. Of course this kid didn’t take the damn ramp, he was probably balling his eyes out knowing he’s about to die cause he has to crash to stop! 110 years is so obnoxious for an accident, pray for those innocent people who died, but this child should not lose his life because of this. It was not malicious or intentional. By the sounds of it, he was not familiar on how to prevent break fading.

Man what a sad story!! Experience is key to these situations! I’ve been driving for 16 years and I still feel sometimes that I don’t know everything… the young man panicked in the situation and didn’t do the correct things that he could have done.. loosing control in the mountains it’s a nightmare for any driver.. May God help all the people involved in this accident.

I feel like this incident was not only a failure of the driver, but also the trucking company for not maintaining their equipment. There’s a lot of ‘run & g-u-n’ companies out here that do the bare DOT minimum at maintaining their fleets, their drivers, and their customers.

@100realtorah3

2 жыл бұрын

Even if I would have took myself out I would have flipped the truck but I wouldn't have crashed into no cars if he felt the truck was on safety drive don't put your life in other lies in danger don't drive you always get another trucking job.

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

When I started, new drivers were not allowed to run across the Eisenhower, specifically for this reason. It takes a bit of skill and of course well maintained equipment to cut across there. Personally, I have always avoided it like the plague, I don't even like taking a four wheeler through there.

@100realtorah3

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwright1602 you blame the truck driving company for that train you in 3 weeks and put you on the road.

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

@@100realtorah3 You know who is really at fault here? The state of Texas that gave him that CDL, as he did not meet the DOT regulations to acquire one. Then the trucking company that put him in this situation, which is another subject all together. The outfit that hired him, they have no business out here either once you drill down on them. Lots of blame to go around. This kid should have never been behind the wheel of any truck, especially driving one across the Eisenhower.

@michaelchason9170

2 жыл бұрын

I stay on our company. Changed about 15 tires in a year and a half. Annual inspection, I want it done right.

Seriously respect to every truck driver , truck driving takes a lot of skill and responsibility from weather conditions to crazy drivers anything can happen

@edjahman

2 жыл бұрын

Talk is cheap. The way that I'm treated out on the road every day speaks volumes. Everybody loves truckers until you are out here driving.

@CRAPO2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@edjahman Bonehead truckers are a problem also, no signal accelerating when theres a baseball field in front of them to block me from changing lanes.

@edjahman

2 жыл бұрын

@@CRAPO2011 I've been driving Class A since 1990 and it's appalling on a daily basis how my fellow truckers drive. I get more courtesy from 4 wheelers and that's sad. I sound like the get off my lawn guy. Society as a whole has deteriorated over the years. It's not just truckers really.

@edjahman

2 жыл бұрын

@@CRAPO2011 you're right truckers have no respect or courtesy towards other truckers nor do 4 wheelers. Some of us do. I look out for people that don't deserve it because it's the right thing to do.

@edjahman

2 жыл бұрын

@@CRAPO2011 my fellow truckers are way worse then most cars these days.

Everyone that goes to a truck driving school including myself were told always doing pre-trip and post-trip they're very important this is not a glamorous lifestyle with the American truck driver is the backbone of this country and there's a lot of responsibility that goes with being a truck driver unfortunately this young man took some shortcuts and now it can cost him his freedom my heart goes out to the families of those four people who lost their lives in the crash

Colorado grades are HELL! That was probably his 1st time going down there. But man... its scary how fast you can pick up speed when loaded if you aren't careful.

@johngaudet6316

2 жыл бұрын

I been a driver since 97' and I remember once after my first year going too fast down a mountain and had brake " fade". You only do that once in your life. I literally though I was going to die. It's NO JOKE. I got lucky. Now I'm in NH hauling Hazmat making big $$ and home every night. I'm very fortunate for having a great trainer. I started at yes, SWIFT SALT LAKE CITY.

The I-70 is Quite easy to Handle , if you use the Jake-brake between 35-45 miles and KEEP IT there. I've seen Harder Mountain Passes than can kill even Experienced Truckers in the Rockies and the Big horn Mountains . Don't even try to E-Coast downhill .

@davidbenjamin7165

2 жыл бұрын

When you say E-coast, are you talking about using the engine brake? I have limited experience driving through mountains, that's why I ask

@hudsondonnell444

2 жыл бұрын

I freakin' hate automated transmissions for the E-Coast mode. Yet none of them shift properly for performance or efficiency. I'm trying to pay off a 15 Cascadia to get rid of it. I want a Kenworth or Peterbilt with a high horsepower engine, 18-speed transmission, and tall 3.21 or 3.25 ring and pinion gears. The manufacturers cater to too many fleets run by morons.

@hudsondonnell444

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidbenjamin7165 E-Coast mode is found on most if not all automated transmissions. It keeps the transmission in gear while releasing the clutch to coast downhill. It increases full economy but the programs used by these manufacturers let's them coast on downgrades that I as a multi decade driver don't feel comfortable coasting on.

@Durahan82

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidbenjamin7165 E-Coast is a cruise control mode Cascadias uses

@hudsondonnell444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Durahan82 all of the current crop of automated transmissions have this function.

I feel like he would be a good example for teaching truck safety. First hand experience goes a long way. I think he should be held accountable. But experience like this should not be wasted. New truck driver need this knowledge so we don't repeat history.

Man that is heartbreaking! I’m a new driver and man if I’m ever in the mountains I’m driving 5 miles under the recommended grade speed, I’m not taking any chances. Sounds like he took his truck out of gear and the rpm just kept going up and he couldn’t do anything but use his brakes, which he most likely over heated them

first time I went down that pass, after about a year solo, when I got to my receiver, I kissed the steering wheel. it taught me how sensitive and complicated these machines are, how you have to know your rig, how to always plan for the worse, and how easy it is to destroy you and others. he fucked up, he has to face the consequences, same as we all would. the ramps, he should have took the ramp.. idk.. it's a fucked situation all around. respect your truck, plan and train for the worse, and thank your God when it comes out to the best.

In the words of the great Clint Eastwood, ' a man's got to know his limitations.'

@gettogo0159

2 жыл бұрын

@Risk On - One of many great lines from dirty harry (Clint Eastwood) Another is : "Was it 5 or 6 shots from all this excitement I lost count so do you punk what to take that chance? Do you punk?" *click* ...... a evil laugh POS : "you s.o.b !"

@gettogo0159

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeskidmore6754 Oh yes - the heat effect of normal resin comp brake pads over heat them & you got no brakes..... Permanently glazed over, now if you had F1 carbon fibre they would work better in high heat & really would stop anything.

Multiple ramps and he didn’t take it. Going down hill without being in proper gear. Lives lost. Throw the book at him!!! And no pre-trip damn. He done done.

@bongonatti573

2 жыл бұрын

No Bro, I have been in extremely dangerous situations while driving. And luckily survived, I was able to keep myself calm regardless of the situation. But many people can't handle things like that. It's really sad Yes. But all drivers knows that going down a hill u can be prepared, and some dumbass will come in front and force you to decelerate which will fuck up everything

@jerimenolan4809

2 жыл бұрын

@@bongonatti573 oh you must be referring to pack of idiots out there on the roads that absolutely must get back over into your lane giving only 40ft tops while going downhill. Yeah I wish everyone of them would burn

@craigj.651

2 жыл бұрын

@@bongonatti573 if another vehicle causes you decelerate on a hill it just means you wasnt going slow enough, everybody should be passing a cmv going down a hill. Go back an read the cdl manual.

Wow, must of been a terrifying experience for the driver. Praying for the victims

I've been driving commercial class 1 driver for 21 yrs. I see alot of piss poor truck drivers on the road up here in Canada. Big problem is these rookies are having a mind set of these 18 wheeler rigs are being driven like personal vehicles. Police and D.O.T should be enforcing these laws and rules more often. Make accountability for these unlawful actions.

I was driving on 17 in AZ last week. First time I’ve been on this particular stretch and it was at night. Saw a sign “next 18 miles” or something of 5-6% grade downhill. I put it into 9th gear and went 45-50 mph all the way down that hill. Trucks flying past me. It’s night time, can see far ahead, and an area I wasn’t familiar with. I’ve been driving for a while, it’s okay to slow down making safety a priority and not taking a risk. Most people would see other trucks flying past and be like “oh it must be okay to speed up”. My particular load had a high center of gravity so I knew I couldn’t take turns like everyone else. Slow down and be safe.

@brianthomas7873

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevindahlberg7753 most definitely. People will sit side by side holding up traffic instead of letting each other over. Race ahead, block each other, won’t flash each other over or flash “thanks”, and so on. There is no courtesy left in trucking. It’s become a cutthroat, dog eat dog industry. The slow governed trucks make it worse. All the big companies governed at 62-65 mph make their drivers even more impatient.

@Dortchskii

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianthomas7873 @Brian Thomas sometimes I wonder if it's what you said "that their is no courtesy left" or people just don't give a shit that I flash them over because of the name on my truck. Most of the time I know when they're looking hard in the mirror as alot of Drivers will start pushing towards the right side of their lane subconsciously. And when I hit the headlight interrupter they'll re-center and I swear they'll go up an extra 200-300 feet ahead of me just so they can pretend they didn't see it. 😂

@Dortchskii

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevindahlberg7753 one thing I can say I'm happy with about the company I work for is they prioritize safety over the ELD and would much rather drivers be late/miss an appointment than to put ourselves or anyone else at risk. Whenever I'll be delayed be its always okay what's your new ETA, new PTA. Thank you for the update take your time, don't rush, please be safe. They've never tried to convince me to run tired, in dangerous weather etc. Here's a Quote my DL would often use. "We can always reschedule a load, but we can't reschedule someone's life"

@brianthomas7873

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dortchskii I always flash my hazards (Mack light interrupt only does top marker lights and can easily be missed) so I use the hazards to make sure they know I flashed back. Not many people flash, and most of the time I don’t need it because my truck goes fairly quick 😂 if I’m close to them still with no one behind me, I’ll keep going up the road more but still flash my hazards to let them know I saw. I go up further when there’s no one behind me because all the big companies use all that distance sensory crap and it’ll mess with all that if I get over too close even if they flashed me to come over

no pretrip aint no joke. sounds like he was totally negligent from the beginning to the end. it says a lot about what kind of driver he was when he would rather run that white truck off the road instead of taking the off-ramp

@AfricanBushmechanic

2 жыл бұрын

What is your career?

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

He was not a driver, he was a steering wheel holder... The tell was the fact that he did not even speak or read English, which by law is a requirement to obtain a CDL.

@Greg3070

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing of course, but he may have just panicked and got tunnel vision. You don't see what's around you when that happens, you just focus on survival. Even if your best chance is right near you. I worked in aviation and the same thing happens to pilots. That's why they use checklists and have a crew of 2 when carrying a lot of passengers. One can stay ultra focused on control while the other looks for options.

@spontaneousexpress

2 жыл бұрын

How does anyone know he didn't do a pre-trip. He might have but incorrectly or straight up ignorant

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

@@spontaneousexpress According to the witnesses I heard the day this happened, is that his brakes were smoked at the top of the Eisenhower... He had more than likely been relying on his tractor brakes for weeks and did not have a clue. You have to realize this kid just arrived from Cuba, and he had no business on that stretch of road to begin with, besides the fact he did not even qualify to obtain a CDL as he does not speak or even read English.

Thank you

With respect for truck driver. We are military family and move every 1-3 years all over places. Move comes there is big rig. I pray for them everytime on the road on our way to destination best luck for us to make it there all safe and sound. Thank you for your service to you too!!

My first time going down mountains i was hauling 43k going east on 76 PA at night, probably not much for some that are used to haul loads like that, but it was my first time hauling that heavy. I remember seeing other truckers flying by me over the speed limit going down hill. Also It was my first time taking that route so i just kept it 5, 10mph under the speed limit plus jake brake. Almost didn’t have to touch my brakes at all. I prefer to always keep it safe and respect the terrain than trying to make on time to a delivery or try to be a bad ass.

Truck driving in the mountains is a completely different thing. He wasn't properly trained for that and his dispatcher should have never let him take that route.

@Alien300Blackout

2 жыл бұрын

His dispatch is probably the same group of people that think paper log books and 100 hour work week should be the Gold standard.

@joshweiser7737

2 жыл бұрын

Dispatchers are not the ones who drive the trucks so how can you blame the Dispatchers for him taking a mountain pass or blame using paper logs. This is the most idiotic blame on someone else. This shows that if you screw up your going to blame someone else just to save your own butt for your screwup. You must be a Democrat or a rino.

@Greg3070

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshweiser7737 you're right, but a new driver without good training can be intimidated by an aggressive dispatcher. I've seen it many times. I've been the victim of them trying, but I had enough life experience to know better. They get bonuses for moving more freight but nothing for ensuring your safety. They try to make you feel incompetent when you say I can't get it there that quickly. When you realize it's a game they play, you just respond with Ill do my best. It gets there when it gets there

@RiZenAsH

2 жыл бұрын

The dispatcher’s only job is to keep the truck moving. They’re no more responsible for that driver than you are. If anyone is to blame it would be the one who hired him in the first place. These fly by night companies only want seat fillers because they can’t afford quality drivers or no quality driver would work for them.

@smk4902

2 жыл бұрын

@@RiZenAsH A good dispatcher knows the level of the driver he is dispatching and will advise accordingly. Even more so in small trucking companies where often the dispatcher is the owner himself.

I was going down the I70 about 3-4 weeks ago, I got flipped off and honked at for going down the grade slowly 😂💀 & a couple super truckers passed me, I guess 389’s & white volvos are exempt from gravity and logic 💀

Im very new to trucking and the amount of people that don't do, or do halfway inspections was surprising. My wife and I were sitting in the exact spot in traffic about 15 to 25 minutes before this happened. Just so happened I got off to take a different route.

Stay safe out there y'all. I hated driving, went back to school and got out of the truck after 13 years. It's a dangerous job

He panicked and couldn’t get his thoughts together. He gone do sum time tho, hell half of us driver’s done already been

Lol it’s funny af how u call us mutha truckers 🤣

I love every truck driver always respect and give them room to do what they need to do they the big boys of the street really. I feel like his mind is panicking thinking of all sorts of stuff and when he missed those runaways he probably knew what was going to happen it’s a sad situation makes not want to get my Class A

This is the best reason for a higher standard of training

He could have put it in any ditches down through there. I have been over that mountain a few times. I remember thinking, with 43000 lbs. on, if my brakes went out, I would put it in a ditch. Scary situation.

All drivers need to see this!!! What we do is not a joke. Pre-trip and post-trip inspections need to be automatic!!! More over, driving within your abilities and skill level. READ the signs, OBEY the signs. To often I'm passed by the super Truckers on Doner pass. To often I see smoking brakes coming down the hill. Know where those runaway ramps are and swallow your pride to save your life and others.

There's a saying in aviation that you fly the aircraft to the scene of the crash. You never stop trying to solve a problem in flight. You always are on guard, you're always looking for places to land in an emergency, and you keep a calm and cool head working through all possible scenarios in your decision making to avoid risk. Part of that is proper pre-flight planning and checks. Looks like this driver didn't do this? In aeronautical decision making, there are key attitudes they warn pilots to guard against such as 'macho' or "it'll never happen to me".

@CharlieForbes524

2 жыл бұрын

It also seems that perhaps the driver locked up. Maybe fear, maybe stress of the situation that he couldn’t keep a clear head to recognize what to do.

@chbrun34

2 жыл бұрын

How many pilots get life in prison for crashing on the highway and taking out people ?

NO PASS…. He’s responsible for the safe operation of his vehicle! This includes pre and post trip inspections of your unit! Immediately after this horrible accident, I’m sure the carrier fired this guy for violating Company policy, thus cutting this guy lose and leaving him to swing in the resulting breeze. I think everyone would like a brief overview of this Company’s hiring and training process, as well as how and where he obtained a CDL!

@billlanglois2767

2 жыл бұрын

Right on, I think if they went back to the trainers and held them responsible for these people, then training might be improved and we'd be getting a better quality of driver

@sandasturner9529

2 жыл бұрын

Orgot the other side of the story/coin. This guy we are speaking of still has his own mind so some drivers are gonna do what they want before and after testing. Still, there are responsible drivers out there that know their equipment.

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

He should have never been issued a CDL, as he, as was reported at the time of this "accident", did not speak or read English. That is a DOT requirement to obtain a CDL.

When I was with CRST with my Instructor he took me on I 17 Arizona he did not tell me to reduce speed earlier or use the engine brake until today I don’t even know how I made it alive

@bigboss7189

2 жыл бұрын

I learned how to use the engine break just by being shown where it was.

After 52 years out on the road and thinking back to as little as 25 years the quality of now drivers has gone from a 65 / 70 % good down to 20 /25% good! Now I know that there is a shortage of drivers but we have to get MUCH BETTER SCHOOL and when the new drivers come out of school and go with the trainers the trainers have to have more than 2 or 3 years over the road doing what the student is going to be do! NOT training on a dry van then go driving a flatbed!! There's a lot I would like to say but I have carried on more than enough! Thank you for the chance to say what is on my mind!! Jim Anderson

1-70 into Denver was my dedicated route. Yes drivers speed and ride their brakes down the grade. Their is no way you should ever be out of gear on that hill. Still think 18 year old's should be otr drivers?

@donn.4766

2 жыл бұрын

Yes ive run the I-70 many times, it is NOT for beginners or inexperienced drivers. This also shows how negligent some companies are by sending new guys OTR. Ive seen my fair share of guys who should not be on the road.

@BartholomewHunt87

2 жыл бұрын

The thought of having such young CMV drivers frightens me. Even a large portion of full grown adults who are out here driving OTR frighten me. I can't imagine any pilot program being rigorous enough to prepare such young drivers to exercise excellent judgement and situational problem solving.

@AfricanBushmechanic

2 жыл бұрын

If an accident is a claim? Then having a chance to breath should be a claim too. How did the train drivers not get a life in sentence. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoKHmpaqn7y8j7w.html

@Greg3070

2 жыл бұрын

@@BartholomewHunt87 with enough training and proper supervision you can use young people, look at the military. But the trucking companies aren't going to pay for that type of structure. That's why a little age helps. Younger drivers need to be reminded of risk more than older ones do.

@angelmonae7140

2 жыл бұрын

...21 is the age you can get on the road as a truck driver not 18, and you have 40 + year old otr drivers that are just as irresponsible and ignorant out here on the roads because they’ve “seen and done it all” and think they’re invincible

Driver training needs to include testimonials from drivers like this that had to learn the hard way. Non truckers need training as well. They grow inpatient with slow trucks, but losing a few minutes on your trip is just a part of life you have to deal with. If you cannot see the drivers face in the mirror, the driver cannot see you, respect that This young man should be given a job teaching new drivers what not to do, that would not be an easy sentence. A horrible accident, but that is what this was, an accident due to improper training.

@digger1825

2 жыл бұрын

They teach all those things like gear selection before heading down a mountain, don't ride your breaks or they will glaze, on and on. He decided to ignore those things a Decision that cost lives. He needs to go to prison

@digger1825

2 жыл бұрын

So they should let him go because he doesn't understand? I don't believe that! The test is 150 questions and then you have to pass the pre trip test then the driving test.. So you're saying they skipped all that and just gave him a cdl??

@digger1825

2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually a proud Republican a d have a cdl and have been driving for over 25 Years. But I won't personally attack you and stup to your level. The signs for speed are in numbers not letters, the shape of the signs have meaning too, and you keep ignoring the fact he passed the runaway ramps, but you have the wright to believe what you want and keep sticking up for him but it sounds like you are the liberal wanting a killer to get a slap on the hand. And if we were face to face I'm positive you wouldn't be this disrespectful to me. Have a nice day..

@digger1825

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! You are a leftist nut case you probably believe we should Defund the police.. I can see there is no talking to you so good bye, nut case!! Hahaha!!

Everyone reacts different when in a tough situation, some people freeze up when in a stressful situation

Poor guy poor those people I have no words!

He admitted in this video, on the stand, that he had it in GA over drive. U never try and switch gears going down a mountain grade. The truck should have never been taken out if gear. Yes, the guy deserves what he got. How young he is has nothing to do with it.

@ericchavez8321

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Kids think they know it all nowadays. He thought he was a pro driving and shifting. I been driving for 15 yrs and i still never risk it, i get prepared before downhill. This gets me mad, cause of their ignorance, dot is on our ass

I dont think its a matter of him not doing his pretrip, im almost certain he just didn't go down slow enough and couldn't shift down in time. Possibly didn't know how to use his Jake brake

@hellspawn3200

2 жыл бұрын

I was on a Walmart dedicated account out of reno for 6 months. And one thing I learned is a lot of truckers don't know how to Jake brake.

@szymonchoinski4234

2 жыл бұрын

I agree.Pretrip doesn't have anything to do with it. It was his lack of experience and lack of common sense.He could have made it down the hill even without jake brake if he put in low enough gear. Even when he realized he can't slow down he should have used ramp or even put it in the ditch.

I seem to remember that that guy's command of the English language was not very good. He probably couldn't even read the signs that said runaway ramp. Much of the blame for this

My first time going down the mountains out I-70 past Denver was at night. I never got above 45 the whole way to parachute Colorado. I seen one truck get pulled over for speeding. Always do your checks. I can save your self and others.

I don't feel bad for him. Everything that happened was absolutely preventable

@jarod133

2 жыл бұрын

Smh..

@rightlanetruckinsacramento1039

2 жыл бұрын

Bad for him!!! What about the families he disregarded and killed their son, daughter, brother, sister, mother, father, spouse. Don't be sorry for him. Yes it could have been prevented. All ACCIDENTS are preventable. There is always a root cause and usually several contributing factors. Everyone loosely uses the term accident. Take out the root cause, it would not have happened!!! Stay safe everyday and you won't have accidents that kill.

I see hundreds of these “drivers” out there every day and wonder why there aren’t more accidents like that one. My thoughts go out to the family of the people killed that day and wish that drivers would take just a few minutes to not only check their truck over every morning but to pay more attention to their surroundings as they drive. We’re not on vacation out here.

I don’t think very many people realize just how much trouble you can get into with a truck if you don’t follow the rules and be as careful and safe as you can be.

I went through that area for the first time in my career a few weeks ago, grossed at 79,500. Scared me to death, I’d smoked my brakes once before and that was because I didn’t know my rig at that time on 87 headed to Phoenix. I held 25-35 mph on this hill and that was enough to keep me on the edge of my seat with my equipment working properly! Just a long steep grade.

@craigj.651

2 жыл бұрын

You did it the right way, no truck should be going over 35mph if that, on a hill like this.

To all the rookie drivers, respect the signs on the mountains that say GO SLOW... better to get there late than never to get there at all.

@JakeLabsGaming

2 жыл бұрын

im a rookie driver for Werner waiting for a trainer and I'm 22 just got my license October 5th and i fully agree with ya on that not gonna lie I've told alot of my folks I'm not nervous but truthfully I'm hella nervous but also excited I've never driven big rigs until this year I'm not a bad driver but I ain't super trucker either I'm still learning and hell I've never driven out far from the east coast in a rig and i plan to do OTR once I'm done training

I remember this,Something about couldn’t read the roadway signs due to recent entry into the US ,At least that’s what he reportedly said,Having an odd Texas CDL Was also mentioned

@reformedartist8528

2 жыл бұрын

why was he even allowed then...wtf

@jerimenolan4809

2 жыл бұрын

@@reformedartist8528 cause some receivers print instructions in 6 different languages when you go to check in

@sarcasmmuch8905

2 жыл бұрын

@@reformedartist8528 Texas allows CDL Licensing at 18 within state boundaries,Utilizing illegals seems to a nationwide pandemic

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

He could not speak or read English, I believe he just came here from Cuba... Lots of mountains there...

Born and raised Coloradoan. I can not count how many times a driver has smoked their brakes coming down Genesee mountain. (The last down grade into Wheatridge) As a driver you are taught everything you do can end up possibly killing someone. Your pre and post-trip inspections as we all know are some of the most important things we can do to keep everyone around us safe. This driver should never been put on I-70 without the proper training/ experience. That being said he was still responsible for driving his truck in a safe manner. His refusal to take the runaway ramps showed his neglect to protect the motoring public around him. I do not believe he should get any reprieve as he made a choice to stay on the road instead of ditching his truck to protect others. Yes it is easy to say this when it's not me making that choice. However I have chosen the ditch to protect others even when they were at fault. My life vs theirs, their life is more valuable at that instance.

My first downhill I lost my breaks. Hit about 90. 2 curves then straight away. I did touch the brakes for 20 miles. Pulled over truck stop down the road. My partner woke up and made me drive for 20 more minutes. Then touted me the correct way next trip. After that I didn’t ride the brakes after that.