Troy's 1977 Marshall JMP
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TGP co-host Troy Nababan just got his old marshall back from @HeadFirstAmplification. It rips. Hard.
Mod vid - • Troy’s ‘77 JMP - Part 2
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00:00 - History & Mods
01:13 - Tones
04:20 - Master Volume
06:34 - Jake E Lee Mod
08:51 - Jose Mod
09:41 - PRS Tones
11:16 - Thoughts
11:59 - More Tones
14:43 - Conclusion
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Happy Friday. Nothing like a good Marshall is there?
@thechannelforeverything2170
8 ай бұрын
Still rocking out that 1975 SLP that I got put back to stock *stock minus the PPIMV, but that can always be bypassed*. Such a great sounding amp. especially when it's in the mix.
@alexb.5703
8 ай бұрын
Always love the riffin and raffin 😊
@hoosierdaddy2308
8 ай бұрын
Very cool.. Sounds great! Tell Troy I need to borrow that for a decade or two.. 😛
@81giorikas
8 ай бұрын
Love your channel but to be honest, unless you are in the room I left the video playing, up until the PRS tones it sounded basically the damn same all the time. Which is good enough. How loud was it? Up until one point, electronically, the power amp takes over and then it's fuck you preamp lol or whatever mods it has in that section.
@GustavoVegliaVicO.M.
8 ай бұрын
2203 stereo with a IIc+
I never heard a Marshall sound so good for a long time. Thanks for sharing this jewel.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Beautiful amp!
What Jason touches, Turns to gold!. It sounds absolutely killer!.
Just want to say that I love the fact that you’re so grounded and appreciative of everything you have, Leon. It’s a breath of fresh air on KZread and will undoubtedly extend your life! ✌️
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Thanks mate. This stuff should be fun after all!
Aaaah! The mythical Marshall! It sounds like a LOT of fun to play
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
The beast!
If you are fortunate enough to obtain a clean unmodded example of an old JMP 2203, the only thing to add is a good ole' Boss SD-1. I remember going down the road of modding my 2204 to hell and back, and found that it was best in stock form. Happy days!
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
SD-1/2203/4 is a beautiful mix.
@kurtbader9711
16 күн бұрын
Tube screamer + 2204. Similar tone but you'll still be able to hear when you're 70.
I own a 77 2204 that is returned to EL34 function. I used to use an older od1 in front but now I have the hot mod evo 2. Excellent beast
Mods, no mods-- doesn't matter. That amp is just glorious and a perfect high for Marshall junkies like me.
It sure is glorious! That tone is really happening
Love hearing a lil Rock Bottom first thing in the morning after prayer time 👍
Sounds glorious! Great playing fine sir and just an absolute beast of an amp. The best dry tone and you can color it to taste. Fantastic!
@LeonTodd
2 ай бұрын
It's got THE sound we all love :)
The second leon hit that first chord I realized it was a long way to the top. What a nostalgic sound!
My 'never sell' amp is a '79 JMP 2104 combo. Even at low volumes it sounds huge...and the low input is the best pedal platform ever. It had mods at some points in its life, but it was returned to stock by the previous owner, and it's perfect as is. 👌
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
What speakers you running?
@SurfGreenTelecaster
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd The original Marshall branded black label G12-65s! That 40+ years of break in time has been good to them haha.
Sounds beautiful and suited to so much variety too.
How can you not love an old Marshall? Killer playing as always Leon.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
One of life's great pleasures
Less than half a year ago I finally acquired a 1977 JMP. My dream amp for so long. Electronics all bone stock. No holes, no mods. Had Svetlana 6ca7s when i got it. Retubed it. Had it looked over. Best amp ever! Playing it through an Atlas 4x12 with v30s and Greenbacks in an X-Pattern. Through a Fryette Power Station. Yes it sounds amazing. Power station allows me to turn the volume to 6 and with the gain at 6 as well its more than enough gain for that growly raunchy marshall growl! Boss sd1 and a tube screamer sometimes join the party and yeah its basically all this amp needs.
@LeonTodd
3 ай бұрын
Congrats! Those big bottle 6CA7 are really something hey
Armed and ready love it 👍🤘
I NEED this amp! Great review, Leon!
Incredible sounding amp. I’ve got a modded 2204 JCM 800 that I’ll never sell. It just has “that” sound
That’s the sound!
Yes, nothing better than an old Marshall
I could tell that you were enjoying the sound of that amp. Nothing beats that particular Marshall sound. It nails Armed and Ready.
Sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
Wow that sounds incredible.
Very cool.. Sounds huge via headphones! Just too cool.. It sounds so chewy and juicy.. Very cool.. It's hard to describe such great tone! Ya gotta love an amp that has a "Pain " switch.. How cool is that.. ! haha.. The mods sound great too! I thought it came alive with the DGT PRS.. Very cool with that guitar sir! Like you I'd use it stock probably and could gig with it and a Tube Screamer and delay and some reverb and I'd be in heaven! What a cool amp.. Thank you sooo sooo much man for demoing this and tell Troy I said he's the man for loaning you this amp.. Troy did great getting this amp! We are so lucky to have you as a friend that takes the time and effort to show us these glorious man toys sir! Be well and safe and keep rocking my friend! Tim
Wow, even without the mods that is a killer sounding Marshall. The Jdke mod is my fave of the two mods.
Incredible.. best tone ever
No tube screamer, you have to use a tube screamer on an old marshall, modded or not !! PS, You made me remember why i have tinnitus...!!
Damn that sounds good
It’s a fire-breathing BEAST!!!
Man, at 1 o'clock even I can hear the growl thru my crappy phone speakers. Must be goosebumps inducing in the room
sounds so damn good
Hey, Leon, that song ‘Foot to the Floor’ is an awesome track. I pulled it up on Alexa and even my niece and nephew thought it was great. They were jamming out to it. Nice work you did there on the guitars.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
That's awesome! That's actually the first song I ever wrote when I met our drummer nearly 15 years ago
A great M/V JMP is a truly great amp. My drummer has a nice late-70's 2203 he'll never part with. It has been through so much and finally given some TLC and sounds amazing. They are still relative bargains on the used market, but I have a feeling that will change. Wonder why Marshall hasn't had a reissue of these, since they do sound a bit more aggressive than the JCM's.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@nicholastotoro7721
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd Just for giggles, have you ever tried the Helios or Helios eclipse? The Eclipse has replaced my Shiva (that I bought in 2005) as my favorite amp. I think you'd dig the gain sounds if even just the "regular" Helios!
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
@@nicholastotoro7721 no but I'd love to. The clips online sound sublime!
@nicholastotoro7721
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd I'd call the Shiva 95% Bogner and 5% Marshall. I'd call the Helios the opposite LOL! 95% modded JMP (then you still have the '80's and Eclipse settings on the toggle) and 5% Bogner chewy mids.
Sounds Awesome!! Love the JEL mod . I think Jason is about to have a lot more amps sent his way.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
As he should! He's incredible
Could Rock that amp all day!
I see your point in the conclusion, but Steve Fryette is absolutely everything to me after the 2203. The VHT/Fryette Deliverance does everything I wish the 2203 would do (very much including the dual gain knobs).
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
I've only tried the Deliverance module but it is a thing of beauty. Steve knows how to voice an amp.
@Robstafarian
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd Steve's major contribution is distortion with little to no inherent compression (the famous "dry" gain). Truly dynamic high gain is glorious, and so many players (including Paul Gilbert) are unaware the option exists.
+1 for Badlands! That first album of theirs/his is pure fire...
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's INCREDIBLE
No doubt, if any problem arises light the wick on a Marshall. Happy Friday
Really cool demo and great playing with very appropriate song choices. I am quickly realizing that this era of 2203/2204 Marshall amps may be the sweet spot of the entire Marshall amp lineage. It's the most versatile having the best characteristics of both Plexi and JCM800 amps. I'm totally with you thinking that this amp doesn't really even need any mods as it is damn near perfect completely stock. The JEL mod seems to tighten the sound a little by cutting the low frequencies and boosting the upper mids, treble and presence a bit making the amp more aggressive. It is more noticeable then the Jose' mod which seems to just increase the gain a tad while goosing the presence. I didn't really care for having both mods on at the same time as it was a little too much and sort of overkilled the sound. Great call on the "Warren Mod" comment and "laying down" some killer Ratt!
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Yeah I could live on this stock
Oh man that sounds gooooooood 😎🤘 Nice mods... was watching the video the other day. I'm really hoping Jason come up with an FX loop mod for the JVM... the satch loop is so much better than the stock one. This has put me in a jamming type of mood now.... if you can hear a Marshall... its just me 😂😂
Sound killer...Maybe a tube screamer or a Boss SD1 upfront for leads..
Now that amp is a hard rockin monster, Troy must be wrapped!
It's as old as me! good year
Great amp, Jason did a great job.
Maybe it's because I'm a NMV, power section break-up kind of guy, but I really dig the MV at 1 o'clock tones.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Beautiful isn't it :D
Jesus the PRS tones were something else!
I noticed a fatness to the tone when I put a 220uf cap across the resistor Friedman recommends. I made a Soldano Hot Mod with a 6k11 tube that fits into v2. Apart from that mines has no mods. I’m liking theJEL mod though. Saw you at Yngwie gig. Was right up the front. Your playing and Tone was articulate and not shrill. Seems like we have same taste in amps. I have a JTM45 RI, a DSL100 and a ‘77 JMP.
@LeonTodd
5 күн бұрын
Cheers mate, which city?
THAT THING SOUNDS AMAZINGGGGGG ... i play my jcm900 mkiii in a apartment with the volume at 1 oclock ... thats the way to run a marshall
Oh my. Lordy lordy lordy \m/
Sounds clean no hiss noise.
this sound makes me never want to use a modeller again
Have '77 and '78 2204s. They're really sensitive to pick attack, so you can be super expressive just from that, but with all sections contributing to the distortion you get this really jangly but heavy tone I've never heard from any other amp. I stopped buying amps when I found these. Kind've sad, I used to love going to music stores but eventually I realized all the best stuff was at home.
@LeonTodd
16 күн бұрын
Beautiful isn't it!
@kurtbader9711
16 күн бұрын
@@LeonTodd Beyond verbal expression. We both know.
Head First Rules
That Whitesnake riff around the 7:30 mark sounds great. Hell, the whole thing sounds great!
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
It's a beauty hey!
🥰 yesssss... it's crazy how hot those JMPs could get! also LOOOOOVE lawsuit guitars! 😍
Glorious! forgive if you mentioned, however what is your Marshall TV cab loaded with?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
25w greenbacks from the 90s I believe
“The Force is strong with this one.”
Are yah Hiiiigh tonight...are ya Feelin all right!!! Dude.
ill take one
🔥😎🎸
so i guess you're not going to give this back? 😄 sounds absolutely killer, response/clarity mods, ripping marshall tone, awesome
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Hahaha it's gonna be hard! Might have to get Jase to clone it for me.
That. Marshall. Sound. 🤌 Troy is a lucky man.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
He did real well with this one
Wow😮…sounds beatimus😝
For me, this 2203 model is one of the best if not the best head Marshall ever made. I reached out to the company and asked why they haven't made a studio version of this model.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
The SC20H is their attempt at a small form 800 right?
@calimusic2007
8 ай бұрын
Yes it is. I had a JCM800 and currently own the studio classic version. I had no regret selling the 800 but I am definitely holding on to the studio classic. In my opinion, better gain stage and a tighter in the low mids. Highly recommend you check one out Leon.@@LeonTodd
Can you jump the inputs with a patch lead on this model? That sounds great getting a high and a low blend . Works well on my JCM 800 master 1 /2 model
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
There's only a high and low input now so it won't work like a Plexi
Love the Greco...amp is not bad either!
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Those old Greco's scrub up alright!
Had 2 jmps 1 was stock with 6550s in the power section and the other had a lee jackson mod and an fx loop from granger, they where alot of fun. But honestly the 800 2203s I've played always sound more metal than the jmps. I suspect part of it to be the difference in the drake and dagnal transformers.
How does the Jose compare with your Molecular? In general how much overlap is between those two amps?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
If I get a chance I'll do a side by side vid
Rippin'
LEONTODD< the Jose mod is adding clipping diodes to the input jack? and the jake e lee mod is adding more gain to the first V1 preamp tube?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Check out the headfirst video on this as he explains the mods in detail
Does it feel closer to a JCM800 or Silver Jubilee with the mods?
Damn, shoulda boosted it with an SD-1.
Leon, when playing a head like this @ home (loud) connected to a 4 x 12 cab (& nothing else) & don't want to attenuate or use a load box... how do you monitor / experience the tone while the cab is in another room?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
I mic it and listen through studio monitors, which I did here. Since everyone else is going to hear the mic'd tone I figure I may as well too.
@markingleby621
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd - yup fair call .... however, if no one was listening, the recorder is off, cats are out of the house on a play date (LOL) and you're in the mood to turn the master volume up to "7" Do you reach for Ear plugs? the attenuator or mike the cab and listen via monitors?
great tones but mate i love your playing
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@GustavoVegliaVicO.M.
8 ай бұрын
@@LeonTodd i'm the one who should thank you. i enjoy your content for free. hahaha
I have so much fomo for a 2203.
So it was converted from a 1959 to a 2203 ? I only ask because of the 4 inputs. Sounds killer.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Yeah converted to 2203 spec long before Troy had it
Would you please try to replicate that modded model on axe fx?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Yep, this weekend!
Achieves its final form 😂
Sounds great, bit too much treble for me, but it does sound good.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a sizzly one. Would love to try it through some EV's
P-T-M-B all at 0 master at 3oclock. Pre between noon and 3. Trust me.
You sure it's stock 2203? My 70's JMP 2203 has 2 inputs, I thought the 4 inputs were 1959 circuits?
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
It's a 1959 that was converted to 2203 spec.
No matter how many digital modelers they invent, nothing beats those amps. Get a good 1x12, a boost and delay, a cab/speaker sim and you are good to go for touring.
are you using a pedal?
@LeonTodd
2 ай бұрын
No, that's the raw amp tone
I had one of these and I sold it because I’m an idiot. Whyyyyy.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
The one that got away!
Its a cool item to have. Its not going to be the difference between a record deal or not.... a good song or a bad song..
Legendary amps, but unfortunately, the true magic of these old Marshalls only happens at 120+ decibels !
a simple eq pedal in front can do more than any mods...
Not sure I dig the sound of those Greco Les Pauls.
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Sounds amazing! I have a Friedman modded JCM 800 Reissue and it’s one of my favorite sounding amps. Modded Marshall’s are the way to go.
@LeonTodd
8 ай бұрын
😻
Sadly not for me. I was hoping I'd get to hear some awesome tones. I can't say they're bad, but I guess maybe my tastes just don't line up with this.