"We're stuck with you... like _you're_ stuck with you." My boy Shane spittin' straight fire.

@joshlivie6589

5 жыл бұрын

Made me cry in class.

@zero-tj9vj

5 жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw this comment that line came on 😂

@lemon-vy3mj

3 жыл бұрын

This deserved the top comment spot

@nobodysbaby5048

2 жыл бұрын

Puts a spotlight on the source of the problem.

"You've talked strangers into death, and laughed."

@immortalandundead5554

6 жыл бұрын

The way that to line is said gives me chills every time

@halabutler297

6 жыл бұрын

Me too

@mmd420

6 жыл бұрын

My smile is so big right now.

@tahaali3424

5 жыл бұрын

@@meganwall-watson3526 i know :(

@haku301.

5 жыл бұрын

@@mmd420 tf is wrong with you

"You've turned freedom of speech into freedom of cruelty" Holy shit...

@otakus1216

7 жыл бұрын

ikr

@Unknown-xg3jm

7 жыл бұрын

In my opinion that, was the most powerful line in the poem.

@1Shinatobe

7 жыл бұрын

"You have talked strangers into death, and laughed."

@Theodore_VII

7 жыл бұрын

My favourite and most impacting line is "We are stuck with you... the same way you, are stuck with you."

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Emman Pascual i think, personally, the most impacting line is "you all have smiles like one way barbed wire, not meant to keep us out, but meant to keep us in"

this should be use for anti cyberbullying talks at schools

@amandamich1618

7 жыл бұрын

They'd be way more effective than the ones they show us now.

@laylarisse1931

5 жыл бұрын

I actually somehow talked my teacher into showing this to my class at a private Christian school. People really liked it.

@reigndraws2896

5 жыл бұрын

My teacher did that’s how I found Shane, and I bless her because his words are so powerful💕

@jeongyeonbaby

5 жыл бұрын

Victor Lucas We had ours in our anti bullying assembly I had to read it in-front of my high school

@zeph6701

4 жыл бұрын

Victor Lucas y e s

"You've talked strangers into death and laughed" something all trolls out there need to think about

@ElobinGarvic

8 жыл бұрын

+A Oman Sounds like you are speaking from personal experience.

@Jesus-zp7fe

8 жыл бұрын

+A Oman I Feel ashamed D:

@asmaalhinai6687

8 жыл бұрын

+Elias Garvey DON'T be a troll on a video about trolling smh

@HeckPoliceman

8 жыл бұрын

+A Oman I do every once in a while. My sides hurt from laughing every time

@HeckPoliceman

8 жыл бұрын

I am become death devourer of lives. You may call me Gravelord Neato.

This honestly deserves an award. Shane Koyzcan deserves many awards for his eye-opening work

@youreverythingchannel9490

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@grecelynmurray4958

3 жыл бұрын

k everyone, we need ta spam the like button so this gets to number one on trending, then everyone can see it!

"You turned freedom of speech into freedom of cruelty.." LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!

I love how he recognizes that people are going to hate on this video, but he doesn't care for what they have to say, this is for the people who can't respond to their trolls or cyber bullies because they are dead. This video is no for his definition of a troll or a cyberbully. It's a cry, for the people who died because of them, to stop them before they hurt anybody else.

@dawnqwerty

8 жыл бұрын

To be a debbie downer, the dead are the only ones who have no chance of knowing about this video. I know it's all feel goody to think that way but it's not helpful.

@GrindingGearsTV

8 жыл бұрын

Not for them no but for us yes..because we can change again.

@Grimwalkerx

8 жыл бұрын

+GrindingGearsTV do not pitty the dead, pitty the living, Dumbledore

@GrindingGearsTV

8 жыл бұрын

Mr563g I do not pitty the dead, I do pitty the living and thats what I was saying in my last post -GGTV

@tobymidnight1957

7 жыл бұрын

zero fall I was bullied in elementary school and beat up in sixth grade then I changed schools where it was good but now people in my classes are trying to silence my voice and stop me from talking about real issues saying it's depressing and not only that but my uncle died when I was three then when I was eight an eight year old classmate of mine had cancer and died then October 2015 my fifty year old aunt killed her self so I'm so grateful this spoken word price exists

this shocked me i dint know words could express this much

@erickane8163

8 жыл бұрын

thats shane koyczan for you

@XxWargrinderxX

8 жыл бұрын

Him and in-q are true poets of our generation

@jacobjohnson5137

8 жыл бұрын

Love this man so much. He is the reason I memorize poetry.

@janebergman9632

7 жыл бұрын

Same

@oceianamalaki1546

7 жыл бұрын

Words are the most powerful of all. Physical pain disappears. Mental does not

My favorite lines: "As if crushing our spirits would make your mirrors cast better reflections" "But the fathers who stood guarding closet doors and the mothers who secured the floors underneath beds all shook their heads not knowing how to deal with you"y "It isn't cute, it isn't funny. You've talked strangers into death, and laughed" "Offered nooses, cliffs and pills who unfortunately found you before they found help" "Dashed through police tape as if it was race of who can be awful first" "We are stuck with you, the same way you are stuck with you"

@llama__5128

4 жыл бұрын

we turned ourselves into life preservers to try and save as many people as possible. yours are also on my list but i also really like this one. me and many people have thrown ourselves out and try to help people close to us that have been treated poorly. i just felt like adding this ^^

@criminalchicken499

3 жыл бұрын

"You turn freedom if speech into freedom of cruelty"

“You have cheered on rape” Has got to be the line that makes me most sad. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking of those who have done something like that.

"We told them, you aren't real And then one day, the world changed"

@kingnoodle3498

6 жыл бұрын

Until the fire nation attacked

@squidy101playsmc

6 жыл бұрын

FUCK!

@loungegod

6 жыл бұрын

Okay, you quoted the poem. Want a trophy?

@tayacompton8766

6 жыл бұрын

Justiceblast10 lmao salty

@loungegod

6 жыл бұрын

Taya Compton about what? I can quote a poem to. "But one day, the world changed...You went from living underneath bridges to living underneath information super highways"

Thank you.

@sublxnary

9 жыл бұрын

Bashurverse Hope you feel better soon Brandon!

@blazexstorm5443

9 жыл бұрын

Bashurverse 2nd!

@campy3

9 жыл бұрын

Bashurverse Cry me a river.

@Ethan4Games

9 жыл бұрын

Bashurverse Interview with keem? It's for the kids man.

@Ann_Angry_

9 жыл бұрын

Yep ..

He wasn't meaning to title 'troll' to speak about Internet trolls. He was using it metaphorically to express how cyber bullies hide out under their metaphorical bridge until their next victim comes along. That's how I see it.

@HBlueVanity

8 жыл бұрын

In the end trolling and cyberbullying are really the same thing though. They have the same reactions, and are causes by the same emotions. They both end up hurting people

@TWL3GACY

8 жыл бұрын

+kraktacaptor but they are not the same thing. They may seem like it but they aren't similar.

@sarahgonzales864

8 жыл бұрын

+TWL3GACY The simple thing is trolls and cyber bullies are assholes. They hate on others and make people feel like shit for their enjoyment. Video game trolling that's a different thing. But that's not what this guy's talking about. The problem is trolling and cyber bullying is a problem and people think so little about and do nothing to stop it. Yeah maybe they're not the same but it's hurting people and it needs to stop.

@__-wm9lu

8 жыл бұрын

+kraktacaptor Trolling and cyber bulling aren't the same.

@sarahgonzales864

8 жыл бұрын

Chris H I don't care

Stumbled upon this again in 2023, saved it. Words can’t describe how powerful this is

@jaytee12621

8 ай бұрын

If you haven't seen his other work, I saw To This Day back in like 2013 and I still go back and watch it every year for a good cry. Just as good if not better than trolls.

@TheAccursedLoki

4 ай бұрын

@@jaytee12621idk how i missed this comment, i will definitely check it out!

When this first came out the comments were full of trolls saying “It’s just for laughs man, man up.” I’m glad to come back a few years later to find maturity.

@PrimePhilosophy

3 жыл бұрын

Maturity would include the ability to shrug off words or find some humour in them.. while crying over words or lacking the confidence to say what you really want to say because of peer pressure would be immaturity. Y'all a bunch of adults with the mindset of children. It's kinda cute but it's also really sad.

@grettoonist4997

3 жыл бұрын

@@PrimePhilosophy Then you haven't paid attention to this video, or don't understand it. When I was younger, I used to think Internet trolls just pulled pranks on people like Rickrolling them. Even if they were associating this with a link to a funeral procession, it may have been tasteless, not even that funny, but I definitely knew that I could handle that and as someone who had and still has a thick skin. I think that's required of people on the Internet. Besides, I still believe in freedom of speech. So it wouldn't really bother me. But it turns out that trolls don't just do stupid things for attention and laugh at the reaction. It turns out that people doxxing others are trolls. It turns out that people spreading lies about someone with a disapproving opinion, leading to them not getting the job they wanted because the applicant believed those lies. They can be trolls, too. For the latter, we need to educate ourselves and future generations that you shouldn't believe everything you see on the Internet. We use this mentality to avoid buying into scams, and when cases of cancel culture arises, we need to use the same mentality. It's much more intelligent and efficient than the mentality a startling amount of people are using today, where they believe all that the trolls say because they're too lazy or stupid to proofread and so demand everyone be the same. This mob mentality has caused people like ProJared and those willing to hear him out to suffer, even if in that case, it wasn't instigated by trolls. As for the former, we need to put our foot down and realise that trolls do this too. Doxxing is going further than pulling pranks and telling mean jokes, it's destroying people's lives, and that is not a good thing. As the Internet becomes increasingly intertwined with real life, we should no longer propagate the myth that the Internet isn't a part of real life, and that those who "can't take it" need to just get off. Are the stores that no longer accept cash and instead rely on payment processors like PayPal not a wake-up call? Are the figures that Facebook, Google and KZread boast not a wake-up call? Are all the jobs that can only function with use of the Internet not a wake-up call either? For most people, the Internet is just as significant for their livelihoods as a car. And you don't see people telling those affected by drunk drivers' accidents to get off the highway if we "can't take them"! Bottom line is, recognise how trolling goes deeper than you think. It's not just people telling mean jokes and laughing when the other side throws a fit. That's what a lot of people generally think of when they think of Internet trolling, just petty antics. But this poem highlights just how further it goes.

Wow. The words, the animation, the music... All add up to a thing of beauty. Ironic considering the subject matter is so ugly. Lovely work.

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

bullshit its good

@WriterfromNowhere

8 жыл бұрын

Um, that's what I said?

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

dude, i said its bullshit

@user-ye8nx8jv1q

8 жыл бұрын

+MEOWS dude get the hell out of the comments. You're one of the beasts under the bridge. The darkness that lies and blankets wounds, infecting them with viruses. You just spread. You've made your point. Stop wasting your time and maybe try to have feelings.

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

i could sing you a song on that theme if i wanted to, but most of our feelings they are dead and they are gone.

You see what I don't understand... is people are arguing in the comments about whether trolls are different of similar to cyberbullies. Do you not see that he was only attempting to place a metaphor, using a term from long ago fantasy stories we enjoyed as children. What point is there to arguing...?

@amandabarton8190

6 жыл бұрын

FandomDwarves a lot of people just try to find a reason to argue about something,and yes this poem is saying modren internet trolls are like the tales of trolls in the past,thimgs that feed off of hate and pain.

@NansSpaghetti115

6 жыл бұрын

No such thing as Cyberbullying

@Nowhy

5 жыл бұрын

@@NansSpaghetti115 TRUE.. But trolls are real nonetheless... "To live is to war with trolls in heart and woul. To write is to sit in judgement on oneself."

@Nowhy

5 жыл бұрын

FandomDwarfes Ehm, do you mean what point is there to arguing at all? Or rather to argue whether cyberbullying exists?

@AJROtheWriter

5 жыл бұрын

@@NansSpaghetti115 Maybe you think that because you are a Troll

I’m proud to have drawn this. That was a very nice job to get.

@Isaacarthy

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you drew the art for this? That’s honestly incredible

@EtherealSojourner

Жыл бұрын

More love for you! Great job

@BusketPosket

Жыл бұрын

The artwork was just as fluid as the words, which is a hard thing to do when they flow so quickly. Some of those visual moments are just stunning in their beauty and/or tragedy. Fantastic job!

This is what I love about Shane Koyczan. Most artists just try to make us think, make us feel, but he makes us act. He actively seeks out the wrong in the world and tells us how to fix it. This, "To This Day", and "Shoulders" are not just compilations of clever words; they are messages, and we cannot and should not ignore them.

@Naracid

6 жыл бұрын

Yeh he's quite different out of all those moralistic boring cucks, he actually points out the problems and punches at the right places.

"Grow thicker skin, then!" ~ Internet troll, with a loving family, directed at an orphan.

@amyd2235

9 жыл бұрын

Well someone can't interpret this song :). You obviously have no clue what this dude is even saying so GG with the language of douche bag! - to you my lovely troll fellow, from someone who could give less of a fuck about what you think of anybody, me, or this poem. Have fun in life!

@theocahill169

9 жыл бұрын

Well obviously someone couldn't interpret his comment, Amanda. He was giving attention to the stereotype of an internet troll, and making it relevant that many may come from a loving family, and be oblivious to what other people are going through. Maybe you should read it again...

@zachyoung5611

9 жыл бұрын

Amanda Driskell i think you misread his comment xD he quoted something a troll had said to an orphan, nothing wrong with that. And even if he was trying to troll, dont lash back with rude comments or recite the same insults they would say to you. just shake your head, turn the other cheek and scroll past the comment (: also it helps to know that they would get their ass whupped in real life

@gruntage95

9 жыл бұрын

Amanda Driskell I think you misread the comment mate. Essentially, I was bringing to light the fact that seldom to people know the circumstances of the people they're 'trolling'. Theo Cahill got the interpretation of it pretty bang on.

@Saskaruto16

9 жыл бұрын

Why is it assumed that all trolls have it good and every victim has it bad? You don't think alot of trolls I would say even the majority do it because of a bad upbringing. What if the troll was the orphan taking the rage that was his life out on some random rich kid on the internet who's fragile psyche was caused by his parents getting him everything he wanted and him not being able to handle that someone could do this to him? Not all trolls had a good life. Not all victims had a bad life. Pushing this idea causes so many problems in the entire debate. Stop. Whether you think trolling should be allowed or not is made completely irrelevant because you don't even understand it. Stop.

I can't explain the thoughts this gives me. I understood the words as if he was speaking to me. His vocabulary is so complex and I wish I could create such beautiful art like he can. Shane, your gift is wonderful.

@delilahm4574

9 жыл бұрын

Delilah M "As if crushing our spirits, would give your mirrors better reflections than the ones they gave.." -Shane Koyczan, the real MVP.

@aubriem1944

9 жыл бұрын

I know. I feel the same way.

@CommissarKozlov

9 жыл бұрын

+Delilah M Yea right. I'd carry him in a game of CS:GO. He's no MVP. I bet he bottom frags.

@israsteeves7746

8 жыл бұрын

one, our names are the same. two, this guy is a master. my favorite by him is shine. his words hit you, and take the breath out of your chest and the thoughts out of your head.

@CommissarKozlov

8 жыл бұрын

Delilah Wahlund None of those things happened while I was watching his video. In fact, 3/4 through the video I got distracted by a spider and forgot to continue watching it. You want something that's effective, listen to the Pale Blue Dot by my boy Carl Sagan.

everyone told me to ignore them and so i repressed how much they hurt me. this is so validating, thank you so much for this.

@albertoalfonso7835

7 жыл бұрын

Ughh i hate when people bully others. Man just know they arent worth it

@ventedthesenuts

7 жыл бұрын

tinymeows it's called tuning off the computer

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Bubber Fuckme mmmm i want to say something but we've already had a flame war and i'm tired of those and tinymeows, i want to say something to give moral support but i'm not too good with words, haha, so just know that i wanna help in some way

@ventedthesenuts

7 жыл бұрын

da Wolfy the fact you are still triggred about it rather than forgetting about it shows me your point was rather poor

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Bubber Fuckme i'm not still triggered, it's just that seeing it again makes me mad again, and just because i'm mad again doesn't make my point bad in any way and besides, i'm just not the kind of person who can forget things so easily, and i can't ignore them, and it's hard to resist voicing my thoughts but right now i'm trying to keep my thoughts to myself(and already failing slightly), so please, let's NOT start another flame war, i'm tired of doing that

shit, the way the music switches right after the line "but then one day, the world changed" never fails to make me shiver, even years after i first heard this

Do you ever wonder if he knows how much his words keep people going?

@aubriem1944

9 жыл бұрын

I know, right.

@CommissarKozlov

9 жыл бұрын

Carl Sagan's words keep me going. This guy didn't say anything that important.

@aubriem1944

9 жыл бұрын

Eh, everyone has their own taste.

@ShaDHP23

8 жыл бұрын

I'm certain he does. To This Day saved scores of people. I doubt he would continue to write his incredible work if he were unaware of the fact that he possesses the gift of being able to save. people

@OniNeko.

8 жыл бұрын

+Charlee Eggleton He does, he has said in interviews that he cries everyday from the heartbreaken letters sent his way. He knows and as astonished as he is that his words me so much; he tries.

The difference between bullying and trolling is the difference between a grenade and fireworks. On the surface, it seems like a big difference, but its not. Both can blow off an arm and both can kill.

@xXmutantpancakeXx

9 жыл бұрын

TyphoonGameing Could not have said it nearly as good as that...

@gregoryedwards3467

9 жыл бұрын

TyphoonGameing brilliantly put.

@thomasstewart2870

9 жыл бұрын

If people die because they can't turn off a computer screen, try deserve to die.

@lucasbrown712

9 жыл бұрын

Thomas Stewart reading a hate comment or any online ridicule isnt something you can brush off. If someone in real life said you look retarted or you're ugly you can tell them off. But online you are helpless. no one can come and defend you because they arent throwing fists they are throwing knives that go straight to the heart they cannot be stopped. even if you turn off your computer the scar still remains. the pain of someone wanting to hurt you without even seeing your real face or have ever truely talked to you cuts deeper than turning off a computer screen can heal. when you turn of your computer screen you are letting the fuckers win. they now control you. physically limiting what you can and cannot do. this is a power they cannot have. if you think trolls should be able to force someone to turn off their own computer. you make me sick. the fact that u think someone deserves to die because they dont want to give in to these soul-less fuckers is malevolent and apauling.

@thomasstewart2870

9 жыл бұрын

There are buttons like blocking, one can avoid commenting, there are so many alternatives.

I love this poem because it's almost as if this can go for real life bullies as well as cyberbullies. really brings tears to my eyes. shane is an inspiring man

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

yeah yeah yeah crybaby

@user-lz1ri4fp3f

8 жыл бұрын

+MEOWS shane describes people like you in this poem

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

yeah, i know, why does everybody have to point that out

@YoutubesLevi

8 жыл бұрын

You're right MEOWS needs mental help for that

@jasilychu

8 жыл бұрын

So true,I love him.His poetry has a powerful meaning

for people that want to read along: Once upon a time, You and all your kind lived underneath bridges, Had ridges for ribs that dropped off into empty chests as if your Hearts were all stolen treasures, As if an excavation crew were hired to dig up and remove the part Of you that let you feel. And while the world above you invented the wheel, you stayed put, Knowing it would one day need to roll over top of you to get to Where it's going. You had an endlessly flowing supply line of food. You began to brood over humanity and made meals of our hope, As if crushing our spirits would make your mirrors cast better Reflections than the ones they gave, As if the only way you could save yourselves was to make the world Ugly so no one would notice you hiding in it. You learned to knit pain into a kind of camouflage, Treated hope like a mirage that you could use to lure in your next meal. You lived off of our fears, as if you could taste what we feel. And every night, as the moon read bedtime stories to sunlight. You took darkness as an invite to head out into the world, You curled your hands into wrecking balls, your breath became Squalls, you made rocks rumble, you made land shiver You made boys and girls pray that someone would deliver them From you We told them you aren't real. Then one day, the world changed, but you all stayed the same. Just migrated from living underneath bridges to living underneath Information super-highways. Days and nights became meaningless, each already deepened Chest became an abyss that no one would ever find the bottom of. Concepts like love fell into your gravity, we turned ourselves into Live preservers, hoping to save as many as we could, But the fathers who stood guarding closet doors and the mothers Who secured the floors underneath beds, All shook their heads not knowing how to deal with you. You, who crept into our lives with tongues like knives stabbing your Words into our skin. You began to begin uploading yourselves into our homes you had Computer screens for eyes, and software for bones. You turned your hate into stones and hurled them at beauty, As if you couldn't bear to see anything other than ugly, anything Different. You had fingernails like flint, and scraped them along decency hoping we would be the ones to all catch fire. You all had smiles like one-way barbed wire not meant to keep us Out, Meant to keep us in Voice like a firing pin, you spoke in explosions It isn't cute. It isn't funny. You've talked strangers into death, and laughed. And as each family learns to graft skin over the wounds you gave them, you hem yourselves into the scar. You have coaxed the sober back into bars, Handed out cigars at memorials, Offered nooses, cliffs, and pills to those who unfortunately found You before they found help. You have praised suffering, Waltzed in between tragedies, Gracefully dipping misery as if we would somehow be impressed With the dexterity of your animosity. You have cheered on rape, dashed through police tape as if it were The finish line in a race of who can be awful first. Even now, You somehow see this as an invitation to turn your keyboards into Catapults, Wondering which of you can be the first to hate this best. Your loathing, already dressed in riot gear, Ready to incite rage, As if each message board is a stage, Where you recite hostility, Turning freedom of speech into freedom of cruelty. We are stuck with you, the same way you are stuck with you. Your mind is glue, and it keeps malice fastened there like cheap Wallpaper. We were once upon a time told that none of you exist, we Dismissed you as make believe or myth. Now armed only with resolve, we can no longer afford to tell Ourselves that you aren't real. We will not let you make your dinners out of the things we feel.

@sammybloom8787

7 жыл бұрын

Twenty Øne Fall Øut Piløts At The Hamiltøn Disco i only saw that nobody did it, and its not in the description. i figured people would want to read along if they couldnt hear properly.

@mayflower15502

7 жыл бұрын

Sammy Bloom ... Captions have been uploaded... just use the CC button -Sorry-

@user-nf7lc8fj6l

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sammy

@debo2077

7 жыл бұрын

Sammy Bloom heh...

@debo2077

7 жыл бұрын

Sammy Bloom thanks

Wow this was so beautifully written, and the illustrations did justice to the words. Even though there are so many great lines in this, I think the one that hit me the hardest was "We are stuck with you, the same way you are stuck with you."

@TheSfid

9 жыл бұрын

This guy's "More Often Than Sometimes" and "To This Day" get me every time.

@MisterClassified

9 жыл бұрын

Joe McIntosh I think I will start using that phrase: "More often than sometimes" :D

@jessenietmann5134

9 жыл бұрын

The line that sticks out for me is: " Then one day; the world changed. But you all stayed the same. "

@PurplePoppyAnimator

6 жыл бұрын

I love how I found you here.

you know what, what if we just cut off all comments on youtube. prevented anyone from commenting on a video, would things be more quiet? more peaceful? as much as i wish "trolling" would stop i don't think it would. people always say "learn to take a joke" or "stop being a pussy" yet trolls always forget they're talking to an actual human being on the other side of the screen. people defend trolling by saying it isn't the same as bullying but what difference is there? it pains me to know people on the verge of suicide because of trolling, and those who say that what this man is saying is too serious or incorrect then i don't know what else to say to you. apparently bullying can be hilarious and justifiable if you called it trolling.

@Chibi1ni2ri3na1ynot

9 жыл бұрын

However if we were to take the comments out the trolls would be forced to confront us in real life. Let's see how much shit they talk then

@ashleylightheart126

9 жыл бұрын

I agree with you there is no clear line between trolling and cyber bullying so we should treat them as the same just like how we handle bullies stand up for yourself gather your friends cause you can never stop a troll you have to kill it. Not literally kill it metaphorically speaking.

@Stonez

9 жыл бұрын

Oh great, we have a PewDiePie fuck-up sugestion. Trolling/bullying is not going anywhere. We just have to deal with it somehow

@lucidity8060

9 жыл бұрын

mario morales I know what your trying to say, but all I will say is shut up.

@Stonez

9 жыл бұрын

Trey Alsbury​ Can you not cyberbully me ;)

There's a subtle awesome moment at the end. The Troll goes too far, gets noticed - and someone brings the hammer down.

I first saw this video in 8th grade and was really moved by it. Looking back at it now as a junior I understand it so much more and it's just an amazing piece of art

@lizabeller

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I vaguely remember watching it in 6th grade but it's so much better now

Could people stop posting comments saying stuff like "learn the difference between trolling and cyberbullying" There is a very thin line between the two

@jamarcoach4492

9 жыл бұрын

And I'm tired of "the line between trolling and cyberbulling is thin!" No, it's not Trolling is when one says or does something to elicit a reaction of some sort. Typically anger When looking at it, it's like the digital equivalent of a prank. It's supposed to provoke a reaction for a short amount of time and if done properly can be something to laugh about Cyber bulling is trying to make their victim feel like utter shits. Cyber bullies stalk your online activity, spread false rumors about you, doxx you, or any of the nasty things you've heard on news. Do some cyber bullies hide underneath trolling sometimes? Sure. But the same could be said for literally anything else. There is a difference

@erismason3441

9 жыл бұрын

Jamar Coach Yes, because the line between pranks and being a hurtful jackass is oh so very thick... True internet trolls were harmlessly funny and tended to feign stupidity for laughs; they're mostly extinct nowadays. But most of the time, trolling is a lower form of cyberbullying for exactly the reason you gave. Trolls want to elicit angry responses from people anyway they can. Why is making people upset and hurting their feelings ok? Pranks and trolling are only ok so long as the victim laughs with you. Most trolls want to get laughs from everyone except their victims, whom they don't care about at all.

@jamarcoach4492

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, there is a line Would you say the line between pushing someone in a pool vs. Pushing someone from a building is thin? Afterall, both involves doing something against one's will No, you wouldn't, Because that would be stupid One is seen as a prank, the other attempted murder So why when talking cyberbully or troll the line is thin?

@jamarcoach4492

9 жыл бұрын

Then that's a cyberbully A troll fucks with you once, with intentions yo make you look like a fool for a couple of minutes, (like a prank) Cyber bullies fucks with you with intentions to make you feel like shits. Sorry such experiences happened to you. But call them what they really are

@jamarcoach4492

9 жыл бұрын

Did you even read me first post? I said explicitly that cyberbullies sometimes hide underneath the troll label And I'm not "pertect"ing trolls. I'm saying that, like everything in life, there's a gray area. Trolls aren't cyberbullies and cyberbullies aren't trolls

I don't understand how people are unable to see the beauty behind these words stringed together with rope that goes by the name of rhyme..

@r1paugie

8 жыл бұрын

exactly.

This only becomes more relevant as time goes on. Rest in peace Etika...

@luna_tik

Жыл бұрын

im so sorry.

You know a video is good when you feel inclined to clap as the credits roll.

Was anyone else scrolling through the comments to see if there were any trolls on this video?

@ANDREWHarris86

10 жыл бұрын

RandomChanceZ is one

@JaredCarter6625

10 жыл бұрын

There is a depressingly large amount of them. What's worse, most of them don't think they are trolls, that somehow deriving pleasure and humor from another person's pain is "all in good fun". I'll admit that I'm an idealist, but honestly this kind of thing makes me understand why people hate internet culture.

@almishti

9 жыл бұрын

Jared Carter It often makes me rethink the whole first amendment.

@JaredCarter6625

9 жыл бұрын

Kat Karsecs arresting people for being mean wouldn't make them any nicer. I don't want people to act nice because it's convenient, I want them to actually feel empathy.

@almishti

9 жыл бұрын

Jared Carter I agree. What I meant was more like I think we, as a nation and a culture, could stand to have a deep discussion on the value, purpose and meaning of "freedom of speech." I feel sometimes we take that freedom for granted and interpret it to mean we can say anything we want regardless of consequences, or without consequences. You raise an important point: how to teach empathy? Can it be taught? I don't believe it's about people being 'nice', because nice too easily masks an inner malice. But I think we can debate, argue, disagree, and even fight and still be civil and respectful about it.

Kathleen brought me here. And I'm glad she did 💙

@brir.4564

9 жыл бұрын

Me too!!

Shane Koyczan has taught me healthy coping mechanisms, I struggle with self harm and depression, but this man, has taught me that poems, letters and stories are better than a blade cutting skin. Thank you Shane Koyczan, you’ve saved me from a world of darkness.... You have shown me hope, and light, when I thought death was the only thing left for me..

"you've talked strangers into death, and laughed" oh my god. I didn't think words could express my feelings so well.

Sent here from Kathleenlights's channel and this vid was sooo good

@LadyaahBeauty

9 жыл бұрын

Stef A Same !

@liselohrbauer7765

9 жыл бұрын

Me to. Amazing video. So on the point.

@demiverse7436

9 жыл бұрын

Stef A same and im so glad i came this video is amazing!

@ruru1224

9 жыл бұрын

Me too

@Sianya129742

9 жыл бұрын

Same(:

1:31 the moon looks like a distressed face, terrified is that intentional, or is just a coincidence?

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

or maybe it's just me? i see faces in a lot of things and since i draw a lot i also always see the expressions in every face i see, because i kind of have to be able to see that or else my pictures would be stupid looking

@specify000

7 жыл бұрын

I sort of see it too, now that you mention it.

@dkburger

6 жыл бұрын

Niggah where!l?

@maximmonday2440

6 жыл бұрын

Nah look like a paranoid disembodied meth head who is going to wipe out the earth Majoras mask style

@2Meows

5 жыл бұрын

@@maximmonday2440 Tell me, oh wise one, how do you speak with such... brilliance?

"we will not let you make dinners out of the things we feel." So beautiful and his work is absolutely amazing I wish more people new about him.

Who the hell would dislike thi- oh wait...

@vagineerperson3066

9 жыл бұрын

+Confirm Level Viewer Why would they do that? Simple, they are trolls themselves.

@radiophobia1974

9 жыл бұрын

o-----o

@radiophobia1974

9 жыл бұрын

Confirm Level Viewer Yah :P

@vagineerperson3066

9 жыл бұрын

Confirm Level Viewer No, I mean why do people tear at honest constructive criticism a.k.a. free speech?

@radiophobia1974

8 жыл бұрын

destiny johnson YEEEEEE

A good portion of the commenters now believe that they are poets. I have to admit, some of them are pretty good.

@x.lexiejewel.x1630

8 жыл бұрын

I'm crying 'cause they are pretty good 👏😂😂😂😂

“then one day the world *_changed_* “

" The father's who stood guarding closer doors and the mother's who secured the floors underneath the beds all shook their heads because they didn't know what to do with you" I got chills from that

Powerful. Love this poet, the lines are just incredible. It's annoying that people are nit-picking- Does it really matter what the difference is? Call it whatever you want, it's still people feeding off others like leeches. This is a strong description of both.

@ericy9510

9 жыл бұрын

It does. The theme of the poem is based on trolls, if the author got the definition wrong, then the poem is ridicule.

@furiscafynn6275

9 жыл бұрын

Hm.. I feel it doesn't matter- Maybe he did that on purpose though? Maybe he didn't get the definite meanings 'mixed up'. Really, you never know with Arts :/ something means more than one thing yet all the same things- I hope that makes sense >.>

@ericy9510

9 жыл бұрын

Furisca Fynn I understand you are looking this from the point of art, but it still bothers people that the main theme of the poem is wrong.

@furiscafynn6275

9 жыл бұрын

Yea...I do actually find that interesting, but I still remain with my view, personally.

@HOULWOOD

9 жыл бұрын

Eric Y guys, the author doesn't mean the 10-year olds cursing at you in the comments, its mostly about the *ahem* 4chan ones. You know, the ones that can find out your real name and address, the ones that leak nudes and make fun of suicide victims.

Someone give this man the world's biggest cookie.

@joepacheco4447

8 жыл бұрын

I give the second biggest the first was too damn big!!

Years later this still makes me want to cry

@basicfetus

3 жыл бұрын

Amogus 📮

When we were younger our parents didn't tell us the kitty pool (our feelings) would one day be deeper then the ocean and you'd be at the bottom feeling everything and being numb to it

There's a thin line between trolling and cyber-bullying. Words can hurt.

@Nowhy

5 жыл бұрын

As thin as the line between arrogance and self-confidence. What i want to see most, is what this poem embodies: Saul Williams - No Different

@bismuth7398

5 жыл бұрын

@@misery8000 Maybe if you're an emotionally healthy person that doesn't easily take things personally. But let me tell you something: emotionally weak people aren't bad people.

@shady8045

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but arguing semantics is stupid. He was clearly referring to what you would probably consider a cyber bully. Also, the “dexterity of your animosity” line was probably referring too the darker side of “cyperpranking” or whatever

I tip my fedora at how thoughtful this is, in this moment I am euphoric. Thanks.

I still come back to this video to this day

@mememan3447

3 жыл бұрын

To This Day is another poem by him

This guy... He really helped me through some tough times...

@unclediggie6559

4 жыл бұрын

Yes like when the trolling is slow

Kathleen Lights brought me here! What an amazing video!

@allief4931

9 жыл бұрын

Same!

This is perfect. Show this to everyone who exists.

@Thecreeperboombox

9 жыл бұрын

is this about people acting like trolls

@ErikBoesen

9 жыл бұрын

Andrew Cen Yes.

@Thecreeperboombox

9 жыл бұрын

damnit then im involved

@ErikBoesen

9 жыл бұрын

Andrew Cen Yes you are. Although I believe it is referring more to online bullies.

@ErikBoesen

9 жыл бұрын

But still

The beginning reminded me of class bullies, later, when the world changes, I was reminded me of depression.

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

well that's just great for you, give up already and admit what you are

@mssaarahn

8 жыл бұрын

Right now, you come across as a bully.

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

i know, that's what i'm trying to do

@mssaarahn

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alex :)

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

i mean, i don't insult for no reason, but you seem to do that, you don't know me or why i do that, you don't know who i am or who i'm gonna be nor do you deserve to know. honestly, i think everybody who does get bullied, who isn't everybody in the fucking world so stop acting like it. but everybody who does, deserves it. and i know exactly why

The thing is he isn't trying to insult these bullies, he's trying to make them understand what they are and how they affect the people around them, he's trying to make them understand they are true monsters...

The only real way to deal with trolls is a sword and shield. I look at the comments and I see so many people complaining about this video. I can see that they've done exactly what trolls do. They whine, they complain and get offended when their mischief is challenged. But this guy is a knight clad in armor. He isn't afraid of you. You're afraid of him, because not only is he taking you on, but also because he's giving out swords and shields to everyone through this video. It's time for you guys to suck it up. Trolling may not be bullying, but it can lead to it. Know when to stop.

wow. this was incredible. amazing.

"Already dressed in riot gear, ready to insight rage. As if each message board is a stage where you recite hostility, turning freedom of speech into freedom of cruelty." DAMN.

We’re scared of monsters, yet we are the monsters.

This guy is a beautiful soul. I'm crying my eyes out because this is a very inspirational poem that makes me excited every time I watch this. And yes, I know I'm getting really deep but it's true

There is a difference between trolling and cyberbullying, but the line is so fine and the difference is so tiny it's hardly relevant. To quote Jonathan Enter, the difference between trolling and cyberbullying is the difference between your first high and addiction. Trolling, no matter how benign, can tear open wounds, burn down walls, shatter safe havens, feed insanity and even kill human beings. One push, no matter how light, can undo so much.

@buru2b634

8 жыл бұрын

+ShaDHP23 Damn, deep...

@krullachief669

8 жыл бұрын

+ShaDHP23 The best bit about both is that they don't exist.

@JordanHookJ

8 жыл бұрын

It depends, I love simple trolling, such as hunting a person down a killing them on GTA until they quit or telling a new person in a game to do something that will clearly waste them, cyber bullying and trolling has a bit more than a fine line

@trinityfrank2526

8 жыл бұрын

+ShaDHP23 Simple teasing can make a person wanna die....you don't know what I, nor any other person has gone through. That last word, like idiot, could be the last snip of a scissor for their hope.....

@elderrusty541

8 жыл бұрын

You know what there is a difference trolling is an excuse to do it trolling is not a joke and anyone who thinks it is is wrong and should talk to someone anyone who finds trolling funny and condones it I hope you can sleep when you know what you do can cause death and I want you trolls to think about that.

this is deep man, deep

@killamantuneZ

7 жыл бұрын

really deep

YOU are the reason I look thru the hardships of life. YOU are why I am going to college for a PsyD. I want to help kids who were bullied and I don’t know what I would do without your strong words that resonate within me.

He left open the ability for discussion, but not the ability to rate. That's powerful.

There words are like invisible ink, that they tattooed on our skin

The fact that trolls are born out of neglect, anger, sadness, and hopelessness is accurate

How much the meaning of "troll" has changed over the years...

What a genius video, thanks for the work you've put in it :)

@steevensc3293

3 жыл бұрын

- Grande Luzu!

I think this hits a bigger issue, bullying, not just trolling in general. I lost my best friend in 2012. Her name was Sam. Now, in memory of her battling strength with depression, I go by Sam, too. Her death date was the 27th, it was 2 years ago then. She would have liked this poem. Loved it. She always had liked Shane when I read him to her.

“And then one day, the world changed. But you all stayed the same”

These are what real people look like people like him are the ones who are the flicker in a dark broken world

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

yeah yeah yeah, give up already, were stronger

@vulpixxlenya2284

8 жыл бұрын

+MEOWS *we're

@coragedadawg96420

8 жыл бұрын

i don't need to be good at spelling when it's not my first language and i'm already good at it for my age.

@YoutubesLevi

8 жыл бұрын

Yea what age is that 2, because that's the age you act like.

@fabianpinero2113

7 жыл бұрын

Vinyl Scratch it looks like you where trolling her. I'm not trying to be mean or anything just wanted to tell you

Words hurt, so we must be strong. If a single blazing sentence of stranger can tear and burrow beneath your skin so harshly how do you stand the eyes that judge you with righteous familiarity? Who has made you so paper thin that even now my words cut at you with the double edged sting of truth? Your confidence and self identity so fragile that I can shatter it without ever knowing who you are? Where are your parents to comfort you, your friends to assure you? Have you no love or strength in your life? No... Then it won't get better... Not easily at least, not if you stay like that, not if you're naive and see only beauty and innocence in this world. Words hurt but this world can hurt so much more, so you must be strong. You think my minor pin pricks, prods and jests tattoo a flourish of poisonously inked poetry across your wrists? Is that what you see or are you wrapping my words like a bandage to hide the cuts your peers and loved ones carelessly scrape out of you everyday?

@fivefs

8 жыл бұрын

They were meant to build you up and cement your sense of self but instead they've torn you down or else I wouldn't have gotten in. Not with simple words and a glancing blow of your scanning eyes. So come and meet me since I've drawn your hot blooded rage, I am here, something you can argue with, something you can fight... But you can't win. You can never win verse me, from that first blow the battle is mine. As you slink away with wounded pride I've left my veil of snide remarks hanging over you. They'll be there when you walk into the daylight, when your peers grind against you making you weak... Maybe, just maybe they'll armor your weak flesh, "nothing you haven't heard before from worthless nobodies" and you'll steel yourself a little more against shattering in a beautifully cruel world. Perhaps though you'll shatter... And through the falling glass of your facade everyone that made you weak will see me... And my veil of words will shield them.

@fivefs

8 жыл бұрын

+fivefs You took my bait so I set my hook. I enjoyed the tug-o-war between us but none of it hurt me, I didn't have the hook in my mouth, it wasn't personal or spiteful not for me. You could learn from it, next time swim past the hook, ignore the worm twisting. I learned it, I was once a fish like you. I've been Trolled into a boat seen above the silver lined surface into how some parts of life are harsh and leave you gasping for air. It wasn't what drove me to stand bridges edge staring into the raging river that could sweep it all away... Who the hell thinks that way? I shouldn't give a stranger the time of day. It's the people who don't want to say that they wore us away.

@fivefs

8 жыл бұрын

+fivefs Make me a monster, shape me a Troll. Take the verb and create your noun to fit your notions and lying beliefs. The boogieman is stealing your children not the school yard bully with a new way to use keys and force their way into your house without mercy. Not a blind eye as technology raises unrealistic views bound to crack and break them against reality. I'll sit here and cast my line to troll the waters for fish seeking to fight hooked words that mean nothing compared to the everyday onslaught. You'll make a creature of legend as I simply seek to teach lessons mankind seems to forget. You'll shove bloody rag in my hand when I was one of the many words of comfort offered and ignored while you had offer nothing at all. I'd rather be a mountainous troll that challenged that poor soul than the shadow that hung over them as they weakly slipped away!

@fivefs

8 жыл бұрын

+fivefs Loved the video, the animation was beautiful. Obviously there are some thing's I disagree with for it but it has a power message and is about hope which is so important. Please take my late night ramblings with a grain of salt.

@Sylvanas17

8 жыл бұрын

+fivefs nice

I found 1.1k trolls who dwell under our information superhighways

“As if the only way you could save yourselves was to make the world ugly so no one would notice you hiding in it”

“You’ve talked strangers into death” happened to my friend and his father went nuts when they caught the “troll”

you've made trolls look extremely badass

@kylelyle4976

10 жыл бұрын

No, he showed them as they truly are, sad.

@apostle602gmail

10 жыл бұрын

i mean in comparison with how usually they really are: stupid and utterly harmless. seriously, if you get offended by a standard "ur a fagit", you'd better just try it offline.

@soraroxesventerra

10 жыл бұрын

Olivia Piper Robeck Trolls aren't sad, a troll is just people trying to be funny, some trolls are terrible and just go "darude sandstorm" 24/7 and there is the haters who start flames, racist, etc. Good trolls are ones that make funny comments, that are jokes... Saying trolling in general sad, is like saying all comedians are sad. Trolls are just internet comedians, who 99.9% of the time don't get paid.

@paelloyd8981

10 жыл бұрын

Taylor Bibeau The Onion has absolutely nothing to do with trolling whatsoever. You're thinking of satire.

@apostle602gmail

10 жыл бұрын

Olivia Piper Robeck also it's not trolling, it's just your regular old abuse

I love the incredible amount of irony from how many people are trolling in the comments.

@dejaypage1575

9 жыл бұрын

It only shows that Shane is correct...it weeds out the trolls in a way, to show who to look out for. And people who don't see trolling as bullying...bullying can take multiple forms. As long as the bully can find a prey that is an easy target for their physical or vocal abuse... And remember the saying, "Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me"...is very inaccurate. Broken bones can heal with time...words will forever be remembered and it will take its toll. So this isn't about not being able to handle it...it's about just watching as someone gets berated, mocked and harassed for no reason except for being an easy target. That's what a bully wants, and call them what ever you want, they will be known by their true form: the same school yard bully who decided that insults on the playground wasn't enough, they had to go to cyberspace to find new targets

@dejaypage1575

9 жыл бұрын

Jacob Tonelli Agreed. and takes someone to help you out when you need it most. Since Bullies lose their power when people stand up to them.

@SirClawedfrog

9 жыл бұрын

That's not irony. That's more like reverse psychology.

@Torkcoaldude

9 жыл бұрын

IKR

@lupvirga

9 жыл бұрын

SirClawedfrog then you, my good sir, needs to understand what irony means. It's an anti-troll poem and there's trolling in the comments. That's irony.

Shane: trolling has literally killed people The trolls: yeah but that wasn't the intention, therefore, consequences: evaded

i learned about this in middle school, and i keep coming back to it. it’s so well written. 10/10

I love it how almost everyone in the comment section say: "I'm not a troll or a cyberbully but this is bullshit etc." at the first or second part of their paragraph sentence lol.

1:48 man this hit

His words are magical

I watched this in my class because were doing poems and this really inspired me because cybor-bullying is a problem right now

Please wake me up from this nightmare, In this suffocating world I can't bear. While I'm hear I can't speak a word, I've been signalling help for a while, has no one heard? Someone please go in my head and flick that lever, Because if you don't I'll be here forever. Or at least I thought, 'tis was not a dream, So I am already awake, but can I scream? In this 'nightmare' we call life, We can wake up, need a knife. But with every nightmare, you have to remember, If you wait it out, it does get better. For every nightmare there is a dream, It does get better, although it may not seem. Although this nightmare may be a burdened, You have to remember, STAY DETERMINED. Pls don't hate or heckle I'm only 12!

@vgmaster831

8 жыл бұрын

Nice poem bud. Keep practicing.

@katherinetarbitt3139

8 жыл бұрын

very good kid

@averagamer9222

8 жыл бұрын

That was pretty damn good, dude!

@trashywaifu5287

8 жыл бұрын

Quite the wordsmith I applaud you

@recordkeeper4761

8 жыл бұрын

You write beautifully. I am 18. I hope to become a writer and I wish I was as good as you

This is exactly how I feel. I shouldn't be afraid to posts on sites like 'KZread, DeviantArt, and Reddit' the Internet is supposed to be the one safe place from the world. But it doesn't seem that way anymore. I wish I could write without having to worry about hostile judgment. I should feel safe. Safe in the one place where I don't have to communicate face-to-face. But it's just not that easy anymore. I hope everyone grows out of the cyber bullying phase. Or at least, I hope it's a phase.

@faeryb0mb

7 жыл бұрын

deviantart and youtube get it the worst.

@tylerlynch8559

7 жыл бұрын

The internet is the opposite of a safe space

I discovered this video four years ago, and every time I come across it, it still blows my mind. Beautiful words and an amazing message.

"As if we'd somehow be impressed by the dexterity of your animosity."

"Turning freedom of speech into freedom of cruelty" That hit me

who the fuck dislikes this. honestly if it isn't your type of entertainment don't dislike it just leave and quit being negative

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Poop Master true, but it isn't right to ignore the bad you have to acknowledge the bad, and forgive it, if you want to really enjoy it

@skylightdivine1591

7 жыл бұрын

+Krazy0ManMan Exactly.. Exactly..

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Poop Master not the forgive part, i think

@ventedthesenuts

7 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Trigona that is the point of the dislike button to show you dislike it there is no problem with that it's not being negative it's using a tool given to show who dislike it

@wolfydawolf1296

7 жыл бұрын

Bubber Fuckme on most things but on art that is meant to spread awareness of a problem? i'm not trying to show favoritism, but not this, not something meant to help people know about the darkness in this world

As applicable today as ever. So glad this video has not been taken down. A great sign of hope. Been difficult to find any recently.

"As if the only way you could save yourselves was to make the world ugly so no one would notice you hiding in it" - *that* is the _true_ definition of SAVAGE.

who on earth could dislike this?

@Supermegurwolf

8 жыл бұрын

Trolls.

@samanthanicolealmonte9995

8 жыл бұрын

+Supermegurwolf HAHAHAHAHA! BEST COMMENT EVER HAHAHAHA 😂😂😂

@mrmustachekitty3687

8 жыл бұрын

The cyber bullies :|

@karlycosgriffe662

8 жыл бұрын

Trolls

@claiiremartiinez

8 жыл бұрын

Maybe they thought it said dis I like

This deserves a lot more attention than it's getting.

@Kyle1444

9 жыл бұрын

*alot less

@LnPPersonified

9 жыл бұрын

doped1 No, I was right the first time.

@TheRealKanders

9 жыл бұрын

No I agree, alot less

@LnPPersonified

9 жыл бұрын

TheLauncherofMissile ---------> 4chan is that way

@LnPPersonified

9 жыл бұрын

TheLauncherofMissile D'aw, you're so cute. Does your mommy know you're using her computer?

I haven’t heard this since middle school and it’s hypnotic I couldn’t turn it off until the end

your voice seems to hold more hope than most

Ahh.. I'd forgotten how much I loved his poetry..