Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS | Road + Track Review
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On paper, Triumph's all-new Speed Triple 1200 RS has all the minerals; 178bhp, 198kg and just £15,100. Fagan jumps onboard for a road and track assessment...
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Professional motorcycle journalism right here: "Yeah, It sounds like a cow giving birth", never change 44teeth gang.
@bazitube390
3 жыл бұрын
"It just oozes filth"
@lukegodfrey9391
3 жыл бұрын
I spat coffee all over my phone laughing at that comment, class.
@NoelWeldon1980
3 жыл бұрын
I loled my face off🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“A raging Casey Stoner” - KZread quote of the week😂
UK has 4 cameras in every corner, and when you want to put one in good use, you are not allowed
@LordDraikful
3 жыл бұрын
It's really not that bad unless you're down south. Get up to the Peak District or further north and you can misbehave just fine.
@windyrun7979
3 жыл бұрын
Why are riders not allowed to use cameras on track?
4:16 you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter
Its great to see someone actually giving a balanced and honest review. Too many people seem too happy to read from the press release and call it done. Great work 44T.
Let’s hope triumph make a killing with this one, top review Mr Fagan
Great vid Al. Have to say your commentary has come along heaps and bundles, cannot wait to test ride this new speed triple. 👍
getting seriously pissed off with KZread algorithms hiding 44T’s videos way down my subs list even when I try and find them within minutes of them being uploaded. Twats. Great vid tho
@FortyFourTeeth
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a common theme sadly
@wobblysauce
3 жыл бұрын
Most set upload releases to the hour, do it hr and 1 min and It will be the top.
@GapeGang
3 жыл бұрын
Turn on notifications
@jakebennett4307
3 жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth Sod the algorithm. I'm gonna hit that bell and be checking your uploads regularly because your content is awesome. Never water it down.
loving all the new content right now!
Great review as always Fagan 👏 Glad Triumph finally delivered...
I still prefer the old one with the high level exhausts but will take one for a test ride
Always a good day when I get that notification
@dddhhh2967
3 жыл бұрын
Only we dont get it often enough🤔
Can’t wait to watch your review on the BMW S1000R. Really great to see you back outside. 👍🏻 Great review 👍🏻
@latemnf
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 and I'm gonna trade it in for one of these. Although I'm interested to see what Suzuki is going to bring to the table, if this new GSXS will be a legit supernaked.
As a Sprint ST 1050 owner (who’s under 40!), I long for an non-boat anchor engine in a sport tourer chassis. Here’s hoping they do it! It would make for such a mega bike.
That new RST suit is so sick. I Love it!
@glackandbold7270
3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Fruit Stripes gum.
Great to watch and even more so seeing Statham on a lot of my local roads and routes! Did miss a few great roads though locally! Love it!! 😍👍
Coming from a 790 Duke this bike felt alien to me. Riding position felt similar but footpegs felt are so high up. The feeling on the road was totally different experience. The RS felt numb to the road, it just absorbed everything. It would just hold its line, the never seemed to move around it would just flow through corners. Totally strange experience and actually unnerving at first. So much power but it doesn't jerk or get away from you, you only get what you ask for unlike the 790 which is very urgent in comparison.
@AYYOFLOCKA
Жыл бұрын
Hey! This is a bit random, but I'm currently on a 790 duke and thinking of moving over to the 1200 rs, how are you finding it a year on?
@Zeggawong
Жыл бұрын
@@AYYOFLOCKA Hey the 1200 was a friends not mine. Iv ridden it a couple times and an rsv4 and i definitely prefer the 790 for the hills than either. Far more fun. The 1200 feels too good almost. Its not as playful as the 790.
That is a fine motorcycle, thanks for the impressions. Also the leathers look really nice
Wow, in the sunlight that bronze flake really pops! Awesome job Del. Cheers!
Your reviews are so good, I just enjoy them so much.
Didn’t expect to hear Al shouting out my home town on a Sunday morning
Finally it looks more street triple esque, so much better and great review as always
Thank you for the great report, Al, loved it! Can't wait for you guys to gang-test it.. and I'm excited to hear Karen von Grumble's comments on ergonomics, since I'm 6.4, too.
Another great review Fagan 👏
Sounds + looks amazing! Can’t wait to test one
Dream of a review Al. Keep up the honest flowery words and honest reviews. Thanks mate. AndyB
Great review, and sounds like a terrific bike. Looking forward to a group test, pretty sure you do too ;)
That wheelie...!! I salute you, Sir..
That engine sound....lovely. Great job as always. You really know your stuff sir.
@dougiequick1
Жыл бұрын
One strange thing i dont understand is how folks rave and carry on how wonderfully AWESOME the Yamaha CP3 900 engine is...I mean it really gets the accolades! But I dont seem to hear similar opinion towards the RS? I would have thought being more powerful and higher revving (i think?) it would get even more praise than the much lower powered CP3 Yamaha motor? Are the both not similar firing orders? Is the "cross plane" THAT much different that it attracts such adoration compared to other triples? BTW I DO own a '22 Yamaha MT-09 with the TRULY intoxicating CP3 890cc motor ....if the 1200RS has a similar nature then I want one! I mean if it is the 170 hp version of the little 117hp CP3 ....IS that the case? Or not?
@dougiequick1
Жыл бұрын
BTW The rumors appear consistant and persistant that Yamaha is just about to reveal a brand new R! TRIPLE! At least one source suggests it will be 1100cc and almost all the sources suggest it being TURBO charged to boot! Can you imagine A wonderful natured CP3 similarly adorable to the MT09 motor except DOUBLE the power?? Which a Turbo 1100 triple could EASILY deliver (double would be like 235hp) It would simply destroy everything in the class INCLUDING Italian V4s and Austrian 1290s and even would give the H2 a royal pain its arse! Besides you KNOW Yamaha will make any R1 Turbo r otherwise competitvely lightweight so it is NOT going to be the heavy beast the supercharged H2 is! Turbos are lighter than SC anyway and a three cylinder is considerably less metal than an Inline 4 Actually I figure its totally possibly Yamaha could build Turbo Triple R1 that is just as light as their current normally aspirated R1. Also note that with today's turbo technology the troubling turbo lag with hard hitting power is a thing of the past if done right...apparently the key is in using sophisticated fueling programs and running larger (than ld school) turbos but using less boost...it COULD be perfection? We shall soon see I suppose
Thanks a lot for the comparison with the competition about the chassis !! This is what I was hoping and waiting. Glad to know how the new Speed 1200 ranks against it's rivals. I laughed so much with that cow giving birth 😂😂😂 I can't wait to see the video shootout : Tuono V4 vs Streetfighter V4 vs Superduke vs Speed 1200 😍 Which is best in each compartement (agility, braking, engine, gearbox, ergonomics, etc).
If everything goes to plan I'll pick up one of these around this time next year. They've knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
@TWIS22
11 ай бұрын
Did you get it?
Loved the video guys, been waiting for this for ages being an ex 1050RS owner. Would love to see a back to back with its rivals superduke/speed triple like you and mozzie did wity the 765 and 890 👍 Through in the others like new s1000r and tuono would be a winner 🏆 Keep up the great work guys 👍
@dougiequick1
Жыл бұрын
I would be in love with the s1000R save for one issue being they mount the headlight and clocks to the FORKS rather than the frame! IMHO that just sucks for adding a windscreen! With a frame mounted headlight like the MT-10 and 1200RS there is the potential for adding a windscreen that WONT be trying to steer the bike in strong cross winds etc. The only thing with the Triumph is there are no robust windscreens available that I can find! Just a tiny one from Puig is all I have seen s far as opposed to the MT10 there is a whole selection of avialble sizes
The Speed Triple for me screamed midlife crises, I'm 52....this on the other hand.
@kangaroo1888
3 жыл бұрын
Just get a busa cheaper and does everything ( not the new one ) .
I am impressed by your riding skills, I would be more interested in an indepth road review as I have the current model and not sure if should upgrade next year. Thank you.
Great review as always, really weird seeing you riding in my local area.
10 Speed Triple reviews show up at the same time - click straight on the 44 teeth review - enjoyed that one, Cheers Nigel
thankyou mate that was a truly excellent review
Awwwww you bugger Al! I was trying to get this bike out of my mind, so as to not go from one PCP (ST RS) into another - but I'll have to give it A LOT of thought now!!
Have heard a few testers complaining about how stiff the bike is. Shame because that shouldn’t be the case with the state of Triumphs home countries roads. The suspension development team should have ironed that out, no excuse at the price of bikes today. Good looking bike all the same.
Why as an OEM, not picking on Triumph, would you have a press launch (lots of $$$) and not have a suspension guy(s) there to dial in the bike for the journalist??? Here's your bike for the day.....lets set the sag, turn the knobs for street vs track and go have fun. Adjust through out the day as needed. This is 2021 and IMO it's very short sighted by the OEM's. Looks like a really nice bike.
@91scalloped
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! I own one and it is so comfortable and you can trust the bike in every corner: you didn’t feel like you’re going to high side from super nose dive, you don’t feel like the ass is constantly going to give out moving higher or lower in a corner passing someone then going max wrist, or any real problems I’d bitch about. I’m 6’5 and my lanky ass can make this bike do whatever I want on the track or street. I own a panigale V4s and this speed triple is no dog by any means.
@richardbrooks4549
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they thought journos would know how to adjust suspension?
Thanks for posting! I just picked up a ’22 and it’s a kick in the pants 👍 I don’t like that wheelie control is linked to TC, but that’s my only real gripe. I got the BT Moto flash for my ‘20 R1 and love it. I’m definitely going to get this bike flashed! Thanks again for your cool videos 👍
Great review keep em coming
Nice review, in classic 44t style we love, i have been so tempted to get one (still maybe will) and sell my Street Triple 765 RS, i dont ride on track so may just keep the 765 now.
Well, we have seen the jurno's chasing BHP cred with sports bikes. Now big naked bikes too. To me, anything ballpark is going to thrill beyond expectations. Just buy the one that rocks your world and ride with your mates.
The way he says it “Super Juke Aah” 😄
Booked a test ride but after this review by Al I think I'll just go ahead n buy. Watch me fly by on it. Lancashire. Nice 1 Al for your review on it.
damn i like this wheelie action, i hope you guys would add more of it to your uploads.
I'm hoping that the new 1200 triple finds its way into the Tiger Sport, it would be a real wolf in sheep's clothing if they decide to build it..
@peterfallows6802
3 жыл бұрын
A must ‼❕,❔
@f270
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it kind of did
I have been waiting for this since January.
It's very strange watching Al on my local roads! 😅
@hrld6892
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that. Looks very familiar 🤔
@stephenmcqueen4029
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, zouch to melton
@LoCk3H
3 жыл бұрын
me too live round the corner :D
@westers1514
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, same here
@Banditmanuk
3 жыл бұрын
Yep those Yellow DHL planes fly over my house landing at East Midlands. Some great roads out Melton way, the B6047 towards Market Harborough is one of the best.
Really good review, cheers.
Love your work Fagan ,Could you do a episode on the gear you wear .Im about to buy my riding stuff and would be great to listen to your tips ?
100mph pop at the end ....nice
Glad to see Triumph making some really great bikes. Looking forward to their new bikes for 2024.
Those leathers are majestic. Great review.
Thank you for this very honest review and comparison to the previous SpeedTriple. I think the old one will be more for me as a pure road machine compared to this 180hp monster of a bike
@danj9339
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I watched this thinking the 1200 is an awesome machine but I think I want the old one! Maybe I'm getting old!
Al that is one wild suit FFS 😂👍, great review as always.
Great review Al. Pity about the jobsworth and the camera! 😂. Will try and get a go on one.👍
Gday Al. I moved to an SDR last October after 5 Triumphs. Don’t think I should even sit on one of these new buggers. Miss that triple intake growl so effin’ much.
Looking forward to a test ride on this
I'm saving this one for on the big screen!
Been waiting for this one
Oim soh-rah oh-fi-cuh, oi just opened the throh-uhl.... Haha. I wish I talked like them. It's so fun to listen to.
Love the slick leathers Al!
Love the look and sound of this bike. Possible contender for myself. Also just renewed my bike insurance with @BeMoto mentioned 44-teeth which to my surprise means I only pay £100 excess in the event of an accident. Happy days. 👍👍🍺🍺🏍💨
I test rode this a few weeks back. Handles lovely and brakes are very strong. Felt light and flickable. Well built, good finish. The Tuono felt heavy and slow to turn in comparison. The Triumph does loose out on mid range punch to the Other bikes in this sector. This bike would have been a contender if they separated the wheelie control and traction control. I find that just lazy.
@f270
2 жыл бұрын
Triumph is completely dropping the ball on electronics! I love my 765rs but it could use an imu and advanced electronics. I'd love to buy a 765 moto2 but for that price with old tech? And now this, what's the point of an imu if you can't have wheelies and TC separate?
fuck yes, feels like a damn lifetime waitin for this one
That's awesome Al cant wait to have a test ride out myself, it mite be my next bike? Anyway you take care and ride safe TTFN
Thanks for the review I was really thinking about swapping out my 1050rs for the new one and this put me right off. Still going to try it but as it seems they have sacrificed road for track no point swapping my road bike for it. Maybe time to update the zx10r instead.
@S1000xrhp
3 жыл бұрын
I met a couple of lads at Kielder who had one each. They said the same even though they'd had them to a local TT racer who twiddled the suspension, they said the bike was better but still firm and definitely different to the old road biased 1050. Hmmmm!
I've got a 2020 Speed Triple RS. Only goes on the road, it's too fricking quick for me , speed limits, or my abilities. I do find it quite comfortable. I'm itching to get a go on this one, although I think my wallet will be safe this summer (unlike last summer, when it got emptied on a Speed Triple RS) As for the old Speed Triple RS not being any quicker than a Street Triple RS , well maybe, but my naff gear selection means I find riding a Speed Triple RS more enjoyable. I don't have to bang up and down the gear box as much as I did on test rides of the Street RS. Yeah the Street RS was more agile, but I guess I like lazy gear selection, and just using the low down torque coming out of corners.
@benfarr6049
3 жыл бұрын
Coming from motocross to a 2020 street triple RS I didn't notice the shifting. They also have quick shifter. If your just riding the road the street is a better all arounder
@karlosh9286
3 жыл бұрын
@@benfarr6049 I could've had a Street. I preferred the extra low down torque of the Speed. The Speed isn't as nimble in the corners, but I'm not much good at corners anyway !
Yeah baby, great review as always, so you like it then! wise words spoken...
Thumbs up for the Review 👍
glad its here sounds great I will have one well I hope to
Yes, been looking forward to this one! I saw Bike World's review went up yesterday and deliberately didn't watch it. Saving myself for unadulterated 44teeth.
Faark if 2021 isn't screaming for a super naked shootout, I don't know what is!
Great review thank you. Just a question Has the steering stabilizer installed on the bike?
Melton Mowbsssss, where I live 😊 weird route you guys took looking for good roads though. The Saxby Rd has average speed cameras all down it too.
I'm confident that a fully faered version will come out eventually, in the same sense the Tiger 1050 Sport was a faered version of the speed triple, yeah yeah, taller and whatnot, but that's the kinda variant of bike that sells, not sportsbikes
As allways the realistic report on this bike. Thx from an aging and fast Tuono-Rider who spend years and money prior tuning his old Speed triple till it dropped. Love the new bike exept the poor exaust position and fixing by the footrests...
Couldn’t agree more about the outgoing bike’s demeanor. Interested to test ride the new bike before deciding my next purchase.
Wish they'd make them in more colours. For 4 years now you can only get the Street Triple RS in black, white or grey. Thinks it's the same for the Speed. Want to see some metallic reds/greens. Also, not being able to speed on camera due to the Joe Achilles precedent is a shame.
I bought a 2020 superduke r 4 months ago. I really wish I would of waited. Then again its been freezing and I haven't given it a good thrashing yet. First service and its had a wiring relocation recall, due to the rear subframe rubbing wires bare.
This thing is begging for a factory full fairing kit. I know Triumph has said that they may not release a standalone sport bike based on this chassis but hopefully they will offer an add on kit to convert the bike.
Sounds good; shame no track footage under power :( we’ll keep an eye out for follow-up footage
Loving the new suit Al 👌🏽
The 2018 rs version is quite good, imo. It is the maximum evolution I agree. Ohlins, gadgets, and 150hp... not bad.
Nice review 👍
Fantastically done as usual, why couldn't you have your camera on, on track ? Is it an embargo thing ?
Great Review 👍🏻
Not a bad offering for the money. I think I'd spend just a bit more and go for the usual hypernaked bikes, like Tuono or Superduke.
@rosendo3523
3 жыл бұрын
I've got an SDR and an MT09, and they're both absolute blasts. I'd say, upping a sporty triple engine to 1160 will probably push the Triumph ahead of the SDR. I can definitely see one in my future!
Nice suit Al!
Might be time to trade in my Street Triple R 2011, 1200RS with decat could make it only about 10 kilo difference.
Hmmm....Michael Rutter lapped the last version (2018) Speed Triple 1050 RS faster than a 2017 Superduke at Donnington albeit slower than the all mighty Tuono! The 2021 Speed Triple 1200 could be a Tuono slayer!
Not the shining review I was optimistic for, but it looks and sounds ‘kin lush mind. Reckon if the launch had been able to be in Spain or in Ducati’s back yard the road test would’ve been more fun. Get hold of one for a group test somewhere sexier ? Donnington prob flattered it a bit ? Back to back with a 765 RS on track would be good !!
I think the cost difference between this and a 765RS is ridiculous. £10.5k vs £15k, according to the triumph website. This has no benefits other than a punchier motor, but the 765 is not lacking there. I think these will be a rarity by comparison.
I was considering shopping for deals on a 2020 1050 RS however his description of them plus the issues I’ve read online today about gearbox issues has convinced me to not bother.
@LondonSteveLee
3 жыл бұрын
Gearbox issues aren't that common - not compared to, say, an Aprilia Tuono.
@robertosmith1
3 жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee A search of Speed Triple RS gearbox issues will turn up a lot of results. Seems the quick shifter can cause serious damage to the gearbox. I love the look of the 1050 but would hate having a gearbox grenade just out of warranty.
Stiffer lighter good steering what more do we want test riding ☝️on Saturday great review
I always found my Street Triple 675 2013 front end very floaty and imprecise. That was my only complaint about the bike. Interesting that the front end is more weighted on the 1200 RS.
I like it. Triumph has finally provided a good big bore roadbike
Does sound naughty. I was looking to trade in my Tuono Factory 2018 for the Ducati Street Fighter S. It didn't feel any quicker but was quite peaky so lass mid range than my Tuono. This looks like it's something I need to try. The KTM I had new with the original 1290R 1.0 66 Reg. Although was fun it fell to bits and just was not worth the premium price for a sub standard quality bike.