Triumph Speed 400 vs RE Classic 350 vs Harley-Davidson X440 - Who should worry more? | ZigAnalysis
In this episode of the ZigAnalysis, we discuss, well, what could be more interesting than the Triumph Speed 400 launch price? These two new bikes - Speed 400 and Scrambler 400X - are the byproduct of the Triumph-Bajaj partnership to build premium sub-500cc bikes for the former to sell globally. Bajaj handles engineering and manufacturing, and distribution in India (somewhat). Our boys - PD and Jehan breakdown their first pre-ride impressions of the bikes at the time of the launch, it's price and how this impacts some of its rivals like the Harley-Davidson X440 and Royal Enfield Classic 350. All this and more, so stick around!
Host: Jehan Darukhanawala & Priyadarshan Bawikar
DOP: Kamesh Chauhan
Graphics: Shreelesh Shirke
Editor: Akshay Raj
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:12 Speed 400 vs Classic 350
1:07 Speed 400 vs Classic 350 Pricing
1:37 Speed 400 vs Harley X440
2:25 Speed 400 vs Harley X440 Pricing
3:20 First Ride Review Date
3:36 Speed 400 vs Classic 350 Spec Compared
4:57 Triumph Dealerships
5:20 Speed 400 Service intervals
6:43 Speed 400 Exhaust note
7:24 3rd 400cc Triumph
8:03 Speed 400 vs Interceptor 650 vs 390 Duke
9:20 Parting Thoughts
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For everyone asking about the on-road prices of the Triumph Speed 400, or are shocked by the image(s) floating on the internet, here's Bajaj's official statement on the same: “At Bajaj Auto Ltd., we are committed to our customers and follow the highest standards of transparency, including pricing. We would urge all our customers and media to ignore the rumours doing rounds across various public and social media platforms related to the on-road pricing of the new Triumph Speed 400. The company has not released any on-road price guidelines and the same would be in line with its other products and industry norms. This will be issued by 10th July. Speed 400 has been launched at ex-showroom price, Delhi at INR 2.23 lacs for the first 10,000 customers post which it will move to its regular price at INR 2.33 lacs ex-showroom. State-specific ex-showroom and on-road pricing will be released closer to delivery.”
@Misbahahsan
Жыл бұрын
Triumph dealer scam pe bhi zara video banaaye
@prabankumarbasumatary7809
Жыл бұрын
I guess that was HD, RE tactics 🥳 to hamper speed 400 booking
@ashishsharma1544
Жыл бұрын
@@prabankumarbasumatary7809 So you are saying they paid triumph dealer to add these charges? I have the proofs of what’s conversation taken place between the dealer and me.
@commonman6561
Жыл бұрын
Now Bajaj is ready to loot us 😂 Kawasaki is cheap on pricing but services Bajaj loots us 😂😂😂 U dumb guys 😂😂😂
@prabankumarbasumatary7809
Жыл бұрын
@@ashishsharma1544 so what? U didn't get the point.
Everyone should have their own pie and keep competition healthy. Monopoly should end , not the brands
@chaitanyacc6019
Жыл бұрын
In theory it sounds good but it is a capitalist system my friend.
@devendran93
Жыл бұрын
Abdolutely
@AkashKachhaway
Жыл бұрын
That's well said
@pydimukkalapavan
Жыл бұрын
Honda vs RE vs KTM vs Triumph
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
Competition improves everyone but ultimately quality shines through
As man who sold Triumphs I can say with confidence that yes 16000 Kilometre service will be too long for India but not the the 1 year interval. With Triumph its usually 16000/10000 kilometres or 1 year and latter will play a huge role
From pictures and videos, it can be safely concluded ---- 1) Serious involvement of Triumph is evident in design when compared to Involvement of Harley. 2) Bajaj's Power of local sourcing is evident in Price. 3) Ability to deliver Quality by Bajaj is also evident as compared to Hero.
@sajosunny3579
Жыл бұрын
Triumb service cost and mileage
@athulrajk
Жыл бұрын
@@sajosunny3579f you have the money to buy it and fuel obviously you can afford the service cost 😊
@sabyasachisarangi
Жыл бұрын
Bajaj always had that ability, if you look at their electric scooters, Chetak just feels way more polished than the Vida. Vida obviously is new, has more features, but it's the Chetak that's way ahead in fit and finish.
@athulrajk
Жыл бұрын
@@ravikb2243 the service period of speed 400 is once in a 16k km , for other bikes it's 5k km . Do some maths and take avg service cost as 4k per service , 3*4=12k so everything is tally now
@Yourking645
Жыл бұрын
@@athulrajk 16k would work in countries like Europe and USA, but in India due to different type of weather conditions and road conditions, these no will vary by huge margin, like 6-7k after that you have to get it service done, you can look at the service interval on big bike but the real world scenario is different in India.
The only company worried here is KTM. It is almost as fast as the 390s for a lot less. I wonder why you guys didn't bring it up.
@worldfactography9250
Жыл бұрын
@@Leo-vj4iv Speed is not classic nor retro either, it will eat some sales of duke too
@Anant.Bhatia.Antz_Bin
Жыл бұрын
@@Leo-vj4iv KTM Duke 390 is a *street naked*. The Speed 400 is a *Retro Street Naked*. RC is the sports bike. ADV is the adventure bike. Duke is in the crosshairs here.
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
Wait for 14th July
I think the HDx440 engine is the Spiritual succesor to the bullet 500.. people who want chill should go for the Harley
@arifzain6844
Жыл бұрын
May be yes, but the design is way too different. It's a unique style no other brands have. So I think it will be worthy to own it. I am just confused are they providing those bike in hero showrooms or only available in harley showrooms?
@debargharoy2492
Жыл бұрын
If you want a fast bike get a KTM if you want a chill motorcycle get a enfield. why would you get a triumph? It seems like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Just like the jawas. Purpose kya Hai Triumph lene ka? Does it look retro ... yes. Does it feel retro... no. It's delusional just like Rajiv Bajaj who eats OATS for breakfast 😂😂😂
@rebelrider247
Жыл бұрын
The Bullet 500 was a bucket of bolts, something that would never fly in Europe as it was really bad quality (no offense to anyone). The Harley engine seems a little bit more put together, it's more modern and refined but it would be something you'd get to see on the streets of Europe.
@yash_kambli
Жыл бұрын
@@rebelrider247its india exclusive
@rebelrider247
Жыл бұрын
@@yash_kambli Exclusive or not, at least that one is up to par with the quality of bike we expect as Euro riders of standard 650 bikes and it does make more than 20HP compared to the Bullet that was just big, slow and overall a very bad bike.
I feel sad to see in India we don't have a comfortable cruiser bikes we just have 2 one is Avenger and second is Meteor for long and comfortable rides all the rest are focusing on power of engine and looks .......
@pranav8937
Жыл бұрын
X440 somewhat falls in this category..
Having booked both (HD & T400) even i felt that the sound of harley is much more closer to its family DNA of Harley's, whereas the sound of triumph is as you said has good amount of hints of the KTM!.... Although the price and looks of triumph are good the harley looks like a rugged james hetfield with torn jeans and singlet❤
@saaamaak
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts too
@surajtomar4870
Жыл бұрын
I think it's universal sentiment that Triumph is more close to its DNA because it's a Triumph made by Bajaj meanwhile the only thing Harley on that bike is its sticker. If you have to bring some obscure model from way back to show it looks like Harley than you have failed in making Harley. Just show both these bikes to western audience and you will get Triumph as clear winner which is also why Harley won't sell this bike internationally.
Please compare Honda 350 Vs RE meteor 350 Vs Triumph 400.
Hunter 350 would be in huge trouble, for now Interceptor & continental 650 are the only RE that don't have a competition for now at their price point, I also think bajaj kinda killed pulser 250's with this triumph😅.
@Jawa42rider
Жыл бұрын
Bro bro jawa yezdi bsa goldstar 650 is also coming with better datasheet 😂
@Yourking645
Жыл бұрын
@@Jawa42riderjawa has screwed up their services, that is why they are struggling in India.
@harshalshetty9865
Жыл бұрын
@@Jawa42riderbsa goldstar is absolutely dead, 650 single with just 44 hp isn't enough
@Jawa42rider
Жыл бұрын
@@Yourking645 according to me service is not issue I have jawa issue vo nhi h service ka hn service network ka issue to h and maine ek bar service me issue face kiya tha I was on ride and meri bike me clutch plate issue tha nearest jawa showroom gya and waha RE aor Jawa dono k showroom ka owner ek hi tha I was thinking they have specialist fir jawa but ulta hua RE k showroom se mechanic aya and clutch plate lgane lga and belive me usko 4 ghante lge usko fix krne me even mujhe google krke pta lg gya ki jawa ki clutch plate kaise lgate h Maine manager se bola to bolta h bhai itna focus nhi krte is showroom pr bgl me hm roj 10 bike bechte h and isme hm mahine ki 10 bechte h so kyu hi rkhe extra worker to kahi na kahi ye chij jawa ki reputation kharab krti h inko dekhna chahiye ki ek hi bnde ko jiske pas already rival company ka showroom h jawa ki dealership na de belive me 4 ghante lge clutch plate fix krne me maine complaint Dali jawa official pr fir us showroom ki gandi Mari gyi even unko warning mili so company ka response achha h kuchh dealership hrami h specially vo jinke pas already RE ki dealership h baki jaha se maine bike Li h and jo mere district me h new wali dealership they are too good
@Jawa42rider
Жыл бұрын
@@harshalshetty9865 yeah but at 4500rpm according to single cylinder enough power even 55nm of torque and also liquid cooled and maine GT ka dyno teste dekha tha paper aor reality me kafi difference h hn manta hu thoda error ata h but bahut jyada error tha hn twin cylinder h to top end jyada achha h but data sheet me jhol h goldstar me ek gear missing h jo ki hona chahiye tha liquid cooled engine k hisab se but may be kya pta vo India me de because fir GT se bhidan h to vo chahiye
There is a fan base of RE as people earlier can't afford to buy a HD. Now with HD x440, it's in the budget of most and now RE need to think what to do.
@Antony_Shamarjit_Lee
4 ай бұрын
HD is for America and America lovers. Except for those, most people don't buy RE because they can't afford HD. They buy because of its go anywhere type of ability, the beautiful evergreen classic design and mainly its legacy, which is almost parallel or even better than HD. There is no doubt HD X440 is a somewhat good bike, but it's mostly developed by Hero. So, now buying a x440 over Mavrick will be a no brainer for sure.
The Triumph Speed 400 Ex- showroom price is great 2.33 lakhs but when at the end of the day we don't pay for Ex-showroom price we actually pay the On-Road price which in Bangalore will be around 3,38,240 rupees I think Triumph should look into this matter simply paying 1,14,000 extra is no good
@vinyaspai2000
Жыл бұрын
No Bro on Road 2.90 in Bengaluru❤️
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
The photo that is circulating is apparently doctored. So yeah, the final price isn't 3.3 but rather 2.85-2.9 in blore
@blrmotorcyclesinc.
Жыл бұрын
@zigwheels Spoke to Keerthi Triumph Bangalore and they confirmed 3.38 lacs as on road price.
@sourabvlogs4787
Жыл бұрын
@@blrmotorcyclesinc. Is it confirmed bro?
@gamegtv5438
Жыл бұрын
I don't why the taxes are more in bengaluru 🙃 it is even more than Mumbai Delhi. Why government need so much money?
Am I only one who loving the design of HD more than triumph?
@NemysisPrime
Жыл бұрын
Design wise, yes, HD is looking better than triumph... But that is subjective... Triumph parts are much better (from what I've heard from the numerous reviews) - the bolts, the fasteners etc... All are much better quality than Harley.. Triumph is selling their triumph bike in collaboration with Bajaj... But the HD 440 is just a rebadged Hero bike..not that HD 440x is not a great bike... It is definitely much better compared to meteor, RE.. But in comparison with triumph 400, HD is way behind..
@robinjaiswal548
Жыл бұрын
for me its the proper frame in the harley bajaj is saying ita hybrid perimeter but thats a lie look at the tank mounting on frame its like commuterish pulsasrs 150 180 not the perimeter in 200NS which clearly looks below tank i dont whats wrong with bajaj they gave this way back in 2012 but now they didnt give it in 250s f&n nor in this triumph honda cb300 better and my good ol NS is still the best pulsar yet
@ProfAVanHelsing
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you're the only one.
@lankplank3265
Жыл бұрын
You're the only one
@prabankumarbasumatary7809
Жыл бұрын
@@robinjaiswal548 expert 🥳👎🏼
Only competition is in between honda and triumph true gems
@TheRahuljat
Жыл бұрын
There is no DNA of Triumph it’s just a regular 400
@THUGPUTIN
Жыл бұрын
People needs to understand RE 350 and Honda cb350 doesn't compete with triumph 400...even harley davidson x440 has that long stroke classic engine... Triumph competes with ktm390, Honda cbr300, ninja 300 and upcoming r3/mt03 and Royal Enfield 450cc liquid cooled engine lineup which also makes 40bhp... Cb350 on road is around 2.4L and triumph on road will be around 3L... This 60k difference is not just in buying price but mileage also comes to consideration where cb350 wins...
@skr1808
Жыл бұрын
@tyldudn refinement and reliability not great with dominar
@surajtomar4870
Жыл бұрын
Honda is now permanently dead in premium segment because they are more interested in Activa and Shine. Within 1 yr they launched CB300F at 2.25 lakh and it has flopped.
I think you guys hit the nail on the head. With the 17 front and rear wheel/tire sizes, this competes with the Hunter. While it is priced like a Classic 350, the Hunter 350 is more philosophically close to the ethos of this Speed 400 and I look forward to seeing you guys compare the two bikes in a side by side.
I feel Honda CB 350 is better than RE Classic 350...
@pintupramod
Жыл бұрын
Far far better
@DEEP11155
Жыл бұрын
Class
@devashish8888
Жыл бұрын
@@pintupramodyes on highway its far better but i'm not sure in mountains
@prashantsinghchauhan3687
Жыл бұрын
Yep and I personally like the design of Cb 350 rs ❤
@ViolentVick
Жыл бұрын
@@devashish8888 I've one. It performed well in my rides. 2023 BS6 CB350 H'ness
Yamaha is not going to launch it's R3 series in India after this, it absolutely has no chance. They either bring the Tenere 700 at an attractive price or forget about achieving any significant market share. The days of the Honda CB300R also are already numbered unless Honda drops the prices to atleast to that of the Triumph.
What about the after sales services any idea of how much will it be for boath HD and TRIUMPH.
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
Too early to say, will make a video once we get more details
@tathagatadas8675
Жыл бұрын
@@zigwheels Thanks..waiting for that and also speed 400 first ride experience video.
What about the service cost. Should I expect a 8k bill?
I think the chill torquey nature of the HD 440x shouldn't be underestimated, that can eat into classic 350 a little bit.
@pranav8937
Жыл бұрын
Its a viable purchace if you were looking into classic, meteor and java42
I think the brand value will also play a bigg role RE is no doubt established brand but Triumph and Harley are like a way more superior in brand name so people will be attracted to them more , so to say The Classic 350 doesn’t have to fear compilation is wrong
Nice video. Shocking twist to the competition. Hope Triumph provides affordable and decent service experience to the customer set they are targeting. 🎉
@santoshvictor
Жыл бұрын
No it will not be
Never underestimate Royal Enfield. There’s a new 450 single on the starting grid kicking off as a Himalayan and it wouldn’t surprise me to see that new liquid-cooled single cylinder engine finding it’s way into other models. You guys do an excellent program, Big hugs from Germany 😉
@dinesh2759
Жыл бұрын
Whatever they introduce...their engine is absolutely crap...even the J series which sounds like a goods auto rickshaw after one year usage. No dependability, no performance.
For sportiness and young buyers who don't want a heavy bike - Triumph 400 For Classiness with a bit of sportiness - Harley x440 For Pure Classiness with Vintage - Bullet 350
@debargharoy2492
Жыл бұрын
If you want a fast bike get a KTM if you want a chill motorcycle get a enfield. why would you get a triumph? It seems like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Just like the jawas. Purpose kya Hai Triumph lene ka? Does it look retro ... yes. Does it feel retro... no. It's delusional just like Rajiv Bajaj who eats OATS for breakfast 😂😂😂
400 cc 40 bhp priced 2.3L , ktm charges same spec at 3L , plz give a conclusion
@nighthawk4028
Жыл бұрын
A) spares and service will be High B) quality of internal components will be less than KTM.
@carlosdaniloreyesgonzalez2978
Жыл бұрын
Por la respuesta anterior. Usar liquid moly o motul mas el Mos2
Nice! Other than anything else I would like to see how the Harley compares with RE Classic 500, I have mentioned it earlier too. Specs for comparing them- they are so closely matched! RE Classic 500 Displacement, 499 cc ; Engine Type, Single Cylinder, 4 stroke, Air cooled ; No. of Cylinders, 1 ; Max Power, 27.57 PS @ ... Engine Type: Single Cylinder, 4 stroke, Air coo... Max Power: 27.57 PS @ 5250 rpm Max Torque: 41.3 Nm @ 4000 rpm Fuel Capacity: 13.5 L Harley Davidson x440 Engine Displ. 440 cc Mileage 35 kmpl Max Power 27.37 PS @ 6000 rpm Max Torque 38 Nm Gear Box 6 Speed Fuel Type
Hines 350 is the best
Why nobody is talking about spares and service cost for god's sake, if it's getting compared to a RE or KTM and talking about making a dent in RE shares but what about expected maintenance cost if people will consider it over an RE, they'll surely consider this aspect as well
Pls compare pelin comfort between speed 400 and honda highness 350. And also which age group people should bye which bike for daily office computing.
Hunter 350 costs 1.49 lacs ex showroom!!.. Why will Hunter be affected by Triumph 400 at 2.23 🤷♀️
@srikanthreddy6626
Жыл бұрын
The higher models ex showroom is 1.8L .Its just 40k more .
@debargharoy2492
Жыл бұрын
I own a hunter and trust me the low end torque and aggression is something else. It's a chill motorcycle with some aggression. And the motorcycle is nimble and can filter through the nastiest traffics. The chassis is awesome. It's an everyday bike unlike triumph which you will think twice before going in daily commute. Nobody is gonna eat Hunter's share. Hunter is ❤. I own one and I love it.
@durgairaj5926
Жыл бұрын
@@debargharoy2492I'm also have ❤️ Dapper Ash ❤️
@Rajs0721
Жыл бұрын
Just watched vikas rachamalla video and Triumph india charging 1.05lakhs approx more on road for Triumph speed 400...disappointed Triumph dealers across india should stop looting customers otherwise soon Triumph india will be wiped out😊 no one can replace RE in india😎
I will go for Harley Davidson for only for Life style brand because it is dream for any boy who watching the history tv 18 shoes like biker's battle ground and counting cars etc ❤
@01tj007
Жыл бұрын
I too am one of those 90s kid with HD being the dream, but but big but, HD 440x doesn't give the Harley vibe at all, it gives Hero bike with Harley badging, whereas triumph 400 feels like triumph bike with Bajaj manufacturing... Huge difference little disappointed by hd440x, they should have gone for better visual schematic as a bobber or scrambler, it looks like hunky street bike
@saaamaak
Жыл бұрын
HD for me ✌
@debargharoy2492
Жыл бұрын
@@01tj007I would say quite the reverse... x440 is more harley a it's a long stroke chill engine just like Harleys are supposed to be.... whereas Triumph looks like classic roadster or scrambler but actually has a chapri KTM engine underneath. I feel the 398 cc engine with some modification will be found in next KTM 390.
@enderzebak2863
Жыл бұрын
you will be disappointed to know this is not harley and just a hero honda with harley sticker
@enderzebak2863
Жыл бұрын
@@01tj007buy a street rod then you can get it below 4l used
Good morning from NZ .Great chat guys loved it !! I collect a new 650 super meteor interstellar Green this week Honestly can't wait, such a sexy bike. I am 67 and feel like a little boy wait for xmas😂😂.
CB 350 RS 💯
I don’t know how to add the image in the comment because the dealer of triumph are looting the customer as per my case in Rajasthan. E.g. just to give a perspective they are adding 10000 rs for PDI charges Asking more RTO charges for the same ex-showroom and engine cc price. On road price in Rajasthan - 2.98 lac when ex-showroom price mentioned is 2.23 lac
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
Mail it to us at bikenews@girnarsoft.com
Bullet 650 standard is an xelent deal at the price point now. Something more peppy like an SV650 V-twin/other cost more. I did love that v-twin when I had it, but the Suzuki GR650 twin I briefly had, with its 50HP was a hoot to ride.
Bajaj has built the engine! Not just crash and saree guard are bajaj!!! That TR series engine is built by bajaj! Triumph gave the requirements to Bajaj, they built it! I just hope it should last. I hope there's no cost cutting internally. By the appearance it feels premium though.
They have set the standard for the competitors! Good for the Indian market!
Anyone considering the Harley Davidson x440 over the Triumph Speed 400 must be blind. The x440 doesn't look premium at all; It looks likes its been hit with a parts bin cannon, haphazardly designed; it's a mess. On the other hand, the Triumph Speed 400 looks premium and was cohesively, carefully designed with parts made specifically for that bike.
to achieve satisfactory triumph 400 and 400x sales in India the company should not limit the availability of the bikes to triumph showroom only but widespread the bike sales to bajaj outlet for better reach in the small cities and rular area’s .We already know the condition of honda’s hunter 350 which was a great bike and created a great buzz but availability issue and Honda’s decision to sell it only through big wings outlet led to the dismal sale
What about Triumph Bonneville 400 ? .... If it happens will it be a tough competition for Royal Enfield classic 350?
@santoshvictor
Жыл бұрын
Right now everyone is excited but once bikes start to go servicing cost and spare parts which cannot be locally available 😅😅😅then the true face valu of these bikes will come to light
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, don't think that's in the plan anytime soon. But sure, that's something interesting as well.
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
These are locally manufactured, so spares and servicing costs are going to be lower than typical Triumph bikes. The question is just how low? It will not be BMW G310 level high but not KTM level low as well.
please suggest best first bike under 5 lakh on road in bangalore? should i wait for r3? or go with ninja 300 now?
though the pricing is competative no one matches RE is sales network and aftersales spare parts availability. So RE is still unchallenged in most of the teritories of India
@saaamaak
Жыл бұрын
I feel let them all have their places in the gigantic Indian biking space. I am not going to be loyal to any brand, we all have our likes. Let's respect that. Let us instead be loyal only to all the biking fun and our biking brotherhood... So cheers ✌
@surajtomar4870
Жыл бұрын
Which is good for maintaining exclusivity.
Hi there... I have booked the speed 400 and now i was wondering how i will now that i am among the 1st 10000 or not???
Getting a dealership is a better idea than Getting a bike
Hunter is a toy bike. Anyone wants a real RE feel they should go for Classic or Meteor. The only advantage of Hunter is its price.
Launch of Speed 400 has put me in a dilemma. I had booked a classic as a replacement to my 2016 Classic 350 but with the launch of the Speed 400, I am in a fix. I own an Interceptor 650 and Ninja 650. I need your expert advice on this, should I go for classic or should I put my money on Speed 400. Just to add to this, I am 57 years, living in Delhi.
@roobanloganathan6498
Жыл бұрын
Since you hv 2 650cc bikes, no point you go for the triumph which is almost same type but only less cc Go for the classic 350 cc as it’s completely different from the other two bikes you hv
@cruze86
Жыл бұрын
Bhai chhapri ho kya? 😂 Itna bada bada bike rakhe ho, age se experience rider lag rahe ho aur buying decision ke liye inn namuno se salah maang rahe ho!😂😂🤦🏻♂️ Either you’re rookie or dumb.
@SM-ih3go
Жыл бұрын
I think speed 400 will complete your collection.
@srikanthreddy6626
Жыл бұрын
As you have already experienced classic 350 ,it's not a great idea of owning it again.Also as you own premium bikes ,you know how they feel & service cost .Better to go for Triumph Speed 400 ,because of its reliability & service interval (i.e 16000km/1year).Triumph itself developed everything & manufactured in Bajaj plant ,where as Harley Davidson just gives it badge to a bike(Harley Davidson x440) developed & manufactured by Hero motocorp.
@divyambhatia6542
Жыл бұрын
My personal suggestion will be Harley because I think you are the one who wants to relax on motorcycle and long strokes are your thing...650cc are great but are usually limited by chasis harley gives best of both worlds
please compare the Hunter 350 vs Classic 350 vs Harley x440 vs Triumph speed 400
@dinesh2759
Жыл бұрын
J series is a crap engine..sluggish. No way should we compare it with triumph or harleys. Instead compare them with cb350 engine. Real competitor interms of engine quality and performance.
@zigwheels
Жыл бұрын
That's a big list. We will have something coming soon.
My most favorite will be the jawa standard in the maroon colour, the true retro beauty 😍. If not the second most favorite is Benelli imperiale, but the colour scheme is boring. If Benelli introduces white, grey or other light colour schemes or combination of colours on the tank, that would be no1 🔥🔥
People who have booked the triumph in Bangalore are getting it at 3.38 on road! 17k delivery charge and other charges! Can anybody else confirm this?
A great bike speed 400 is ! no doubt ... but I have a feeling that the moment these bikes are available for costumers !!!!! bang re roadster450 or the himalayan 450 are in the market . then we will see who is better. After all we know what RE bikes are know these days. bikes exactly for a particular mind sets . a perfect machine . {i am RE lover}.🤗
What triumph first needs to do is to increase their dealership network. There is not a single dealership in M.P. I want to buy a triumph scrambler but there is no dealership so obviously I will go for other bikes. I think they should sell these bikes at bajaj dealerships in the starting just what like Kawasaki has done in the starting.
how does honda cb350's compare to speed 400?
Good one.. just curious can this new bike ride RE INTR 650 OR GT650 On highway and long runs? Maintanance, ride quality in long run. Will buying bike that fits well from point of view Hybrid riding both in city and highway which I do in a week 124 kms.
The onroad cost is around 3.2 lakhs in kerala. 90k extra........ damn😢
@ashwinkumarv8029
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3.38 in Bangalore 😢
@divyambhatia6542
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@@ashwinkumarv80293.25 delhi wtf
@zigwheels
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Please send us the images to the official quote on bikenews@girnarsoft.com
I hope they release some cruiser bikes before 2028. That's when my Thunderbird 500 turns 15 year old and would not be allowed on Delhi roads. Currently I have Meteor as my only option but either I have to for an underpowered 350 or go for overbudget with Super Meteor.
Can't say; RE with all its issues was addicting because of its Torque. Let them come to the road, we'd decide.
Only drawback to triumph is dealerships. Hdx440 is available through hero.
Triumph should come with Borneville 400 with inline Engine. it vl be going to be the game changer.
4:24 - 60K (75K-1lakh on road actually) is a lot coz who's planning for a hunter, he needs to pay more than 40% of his budget. Someone not on a tight budget won't consider a hunter as a bike.
That Harley Davidson bike looks like anything but a Harley. As a fan, I'm more pissed off by the design than excited by its affordability.
I bet if you look deeper into the internals of the Speed 400 you will find the KTM DNA camouflaged in some smartly redesigned engine casings..just like the Mojo and Yezdi .The soon to be launched Duke 390/400 will have the same engine with bumped up output..just like Bajaj did with the Dominar 400 by detuning the Duke 390..
@templetours9
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Mojo 1st edition was flawed, but had they been fixed, that lovely engine, the seemingly 500cc body and build was the real deal. Jawa and Yezdi 4-stroke will probably not match the 2-stroke sound and performance(?). Mahindra gives Italian names, why not Indian. Jes sayin.
0n road price of both the bikes in Karnataka is coming to a whopping 3.20-30 lakh. Still premium pricing.
@Jonakkk
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How did you confirm ?
Dealership's next level pricing 😵💫 Triumph 400: actual pricing Ex-showroom - 2,33,000 Road tax - 46,553 Delivery charges -17,000 Registration & RTO charges - 3,937 RSA - 6,016 Insurance - 23,592 Intro kit - 8,500 *On road - 3,38,598*
Elephant and fans are digging there own Graves! I honestly thought this one would be between 3.5-4 Lakhs ... But i literally got chills when i see the price. Only one thing makes me sad.. the maximum speed limit on kerala highways for two wheeler is now limited to 60!!!!! And there is AI camera everywhere.. 😐😐😐
Western Bikes are known to be expensive to maintain the very reason Japanese rule the market hands down in every country around the globe . Japanese have proven reliability , very low cost on after sales , leading fuel efficiency and inherited smoothness and long life . Possesd with highness ,awaiting Kawa Yamaha Suzi to enter this segment. Want RE to continue lead the segment as they own
@zigwheels
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That's why an Indian company is taking over the operations.
Service is a differentiator.... I feel, Triumph has their attitude to service wrong (not my personal experience, this is from what I have heard, hence could be grossly wrong). In my opinion Triumph is selling on their brand value... Harley will be selling on the value Hero brings... Interesting market space to watch
If I want chill relax attitude of RE I will go for Harley rather than classic if u looking for some fun bike im going with trimph then 😉😁
Can you please provide a comparison video of husqvarna vitpilen 250 vs triumph speed 400
From specs triumph doesnt seem to provide any unique character compared to dominor, ktm and others. In this category HD clearly wins. Harley can easily fill void left by classic and bullet 500 with much more smoothness and ease of use.
At 2.33 lac base price the market gets scewed, to top it there r few dealership as of now and also the service centre r less. The price list are out and the dealers r charging additional 17K as delivery charges and 8K introductory kit in which there (petrol n polish) an 25k extra 😮😮😢, 6k for RSA, this would finally cost 3.38lac if bought at 2.33lac basic price. Delivery commitment is this month end if booked early..
@zigwheels
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Please send us the images to the official quote on bikenews@girnarsoft.com
I have had a fair share of experience about riding and ownership of bikes....l have a Fatboy and a classic 500...personally I think triumph looks far more premium than the Harley.....but if you go for brand value obviously Harley is the winner....and about RE...the after sale service(RE s service network is unparalleled compared to both these brands)and brand value at ground level is definitely very difficult to match up to
What about H'ness? It's creating its own market slowly. I see them more now on the streets of Kolkata, at least.
@osho782
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They are silent on mileage in which Honda excels
Please compare with HD440x
Hello guys. What do you think about upcoming Aprilia rs 440. Will it be good competition to Yamaha and Kawasaki or it would be as usual with Aprilia, more premium than the market.
@zigwheels
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Competition to those? Yes. Pricing will be premium? You bet
@hiteshgujarathi4636
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@@zigwheels I can't tell anything about price since triumph gave a heart attack on 5th😅. I can only hope for the same when Aprilia will launch this bike.
This launch has certainly redefined the value for money quotient in sub 400CC category. Only downside I see here is the charector of engine and sound obviously. RE should think about classic 500 reborn. And Honda may bring CB450. But who knows. And HD will remain here for long for sure
Hero has nailed it with Harley Davidson, it has more displacement and torque, and the service network of Hero Motocorp is more than anything in India. No second thought, mid model of HD 440x has ample features and has everything i need. ❤Harley Davidson since my childhood
Hate to be that guy but I find all the 3 colour options very mid. It would be amazing if there was a white option. Triumph please, its not too much to ask
Triumph has its own classics T120 & T100. They can able to launch this with 400cc, main question is are they willing to expand it ?
I looking after service cost in both bike. Is it cheaper service cost like RE.
I dont think these two can replace REs. Service is going to be a big game changer here.
Hello gentlemen, pls ref to the timeline of the vid btwn 55" to 1:05".....Of the list of bikes that need to b worried, how come u missed out the Dom400?? Current ESR price (ok, with the travel gear pre fitted) is Rs. 2.6lacs....And now v hav the Triumph 400 at 2.23/ 2.33 lacs.....So, isn't it the end of Dom400 by Bajaj auto themselves?....what do u guys feel...?? Pls respond with comments😁😁😁
Even though i have already booked s400. I can confidently say the most distinguished bike in coming times will be x440. It wont be chaprified in any way. It looks way cooler in real than photo as i heard. It sounds the best..as per indian roads and an average office goer and weekend tourer harley will be perfect
The enginer specs are vwry close to dominor 400. The design atleast on the screen doesnt seem to be very triumph like. For my eyes when i see on screen its more like old gen pulsar (round headlight) with high quality paint (triumph spec)and golden upside forks. atleast the tank should be large enough. Atleast the tail should have been given some unique element. The very good thing that might work in its favour would be built quality and performance.
I think RE is best and than Harley, than Triumph... Harley has their own legacy... Triumph is comparatively new name in Indian market
What is the service cost for triumph bike?
A Bullet buyer will always buy Bullet. But those who are looking for bike with 2 lakh something budget, will clearly have a better option than any other bike in Speed 400.
There is an image going around, which depicts the on-road pricing of the Triumph at 3.38 lakhs. Also take a look at the prices of Triumph accessories. All these cheering and celebrating for Triumph might be short-lived.
What about honda highness?
Triumph quality is concern I saw 2 different video where they tried starting Triumph bike for exhaust note it didn't start in one click it took 2 clicks ..... I still wonder with what quality it is.... Ref your video where you show exhaust note another was in Gagans video
Please do a comparison between honda hness and triumph speed 400
Please make a comparison video definitely for Triumph Speed 400 & Royal Enfield Meteor 350. The opinion is much needed.
I chose Honda over RE for reliability and refinement. As much as I love triumph brand, I feel the models are built for a much younger buyer and not so retro looks. I can't imagine these models looking cool with all the accessories like guards, backrest, saddle stays and luggage/helmet boxes. Compare that with the CB350 or RE classic or even meteor, that relaxed feel is not there. So I like you guys said, classic 350 customers may not shift to this and I would add Honda Hness to that as well. The only missing piece I find for Honda is number of service centres.
Please compare triumph 400cc bikes with honda Highness CB350 and CB350 RS and Harley Davidson x440.
Ok now where should I get one from exclusive triumph showroom or Bajaj
@zigwheels
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Triumph showrooms only
Classic 350 should not worry at all.
we knw u guys have ridden this bike and recorded the video 😁😁 its allright we will wait
My mind is somehow always comparing this to Duke 390. I think my mind meets with many other, isn't it?
@pravinmurthy
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I'm with you.. This bike secretly challenges the Duke 390 the most..
@shreeniketdeshmukh4249
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@@pravinmurthy yes it does
@roshinsiby5390
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Me tooo😂
@zigwheels
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You're not alone.
Boooked a 250 duke 1 month back and now triumph 400 launched at this price.. Kindly compare both. Confused.
Day by day Zigwheels is upping the content..loved this video👍
That's the video i want after the price announced by Triumph🤩🤩🤩🤩