Good review. I am thinking of buying an XE. I have watched your review of the XC twice now. Have you stopped vlogging? I hope you are alright.

Thanks for the review, your review made more sense in rider perspective than a advertisement showcasing on other channels, your review made me move a step closer to making a purchase decision for XE, looking forward to the XC review, cheers.

Exactly what I've done. I've sold my, gorgeous, Thruxton R for a White /w Green Stripe Scrambler XE purely because of the comfort and fun I will be able to have on it. The Thruxton was/is great but this Scrambler is FANTASTIC!

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

That is cool to hear. Enjoy!

@PaulBilton

5 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 Thank you. And thanks for posting this video up!!

Thank you for posting this I watched your XC review first. I have a had both triumph 800 versions . The XC & road biased machine. The 1200XE would better suit my current riding. The 800XC was a great bike but it was expensive to repair when dropped.So I ended up with a Suzuki DR650 which I love to death.This new scrambler has no body work to replace.I will be unloading one of my current bikes to purchase the 1200XE model .

Thanks for the review. I have just traded in my 2016 Tiger 800 XCA for the Scrambler XE with the enhancement pack. I measured the width of the handle bars because I have a narrow gate to get through at home and both bikes are the same at 35”. I filtered with my Tiger daily on the M27 and never had an issue, I think this will be even easier as you have less visual mass for your brain to think about. Can’t wait for new bike day next month.

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! Good thing you measured and a nice reassurance that they are the same width and won't be an issue! Enjoy your new bike! Which color did you get?

@martynedmiston2369

5 жыл бұрын

I went with the blue/black combo. My favourite colour and matches my camper van too!

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

@@martynedmiston2369 cool. Congrats!

Good review thanks, nice to hear a different fresh accent coming through and your matter of factness was heartening as well I have an XE now, I ordered an XC as I liked the look of it a lot more, I hated the blingy anodised gold forks on the XE- those ‘hey look at me, I’m a freaking bad colour fit on an otherwise retro cool looking moto’- and I still hate them. The shop couldn’t get my new XC going for some software reason after I’d unloaded $20 K+ for it, so they wisely and graciously isn’t me an EX, fully optioned, until they started said bike, which never started actually. They shipped up another XC from Victoria, I’m from Coolum in QLD, and that took 3 weeks, all of which time I kept the XE on loan since I had lent the shop my $20K for the other XC, which had nice black bars and black forks- respectably retro esq. When it cane time to swap bikes, and after giving the XE on loan and real flogging and a lot of miles, I feared going back to the XC- a lesser bike, even though I still had not ridden one. Sunstate Triumph were now more than happy to make me happy exotically after I decided to bring their nice loan bike back, unscratched and a lot more ‘run in’, so they let me change my order to an XE they had in the shop- same blue as the one your riding . I love it, happy with it, got rid of the CAT, cooled the heat, cooler sound, and on Friday I’m getting this SOB fugly gold forks wrapped in black I think or maybe bright green- anything but bloody gold l.

Amazing and quite nice bike!!!

Nice review. I'm in the same boat...need a detailed XC review!! I don't think I'll do much of the off roading so while I love the XE colors I don't think I want to trade on road performance for colors. Every review out there is totally XE biased.

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

The XC still has to hit the dealers. Could be any time now. My dealer just mailed me they expect one in two weeks time.

Excellent and informative review....you are pretty much echoing my thoughts and feelings about the bike. I've had a test ride and liked it very much, but I'm holding on until I've ridden the XC....which in some ways I prefer the look of....but in other ways the XE wins me over!!. Whichever one I go for that gap between headlight and tft screen needs sorting for sure. Also I think there's a few too many shiny/anodized bits, but that's a personal choice and I'd enjoy making the bike a bit unique to me!. Cheers, Steve

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve, I agree the bike has too much bling. Especially the exhaust, I has about 5 different colors which is too busy for me and I will probably paint or swap out some parts. But tinkering is also part of the fun for me. I am interested in hearing your opinion after you have ridden the XC.

@steveturner1633

4 жыл бұрын

Your talking my language, the poor EX kind of looks like it was sprayed with glue and fell into a tackle box - but that gives everyone the chance to personalise and retro fit their own bike which is great too I think. It was probably the extra safety of the XE on cornering and Electronic Traction Control that swung me and the extra height .

I sold my Tiger 800 XCx to get the Scrambler 1200 XE, and the ride comfort was definitely a consideration. I haven't put many miles on it yet, but I'm even looking forward to some winter riding!

@winglessoracle2967

4 жыл бұрын

Congrats

I want one !! Those are nice !!

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

I have one 😁. I want to do a full long term review this summer. Sneek preview... its awesome!...

The purchased the blue XE and think it looks fantastic. I’m going to put the brown seat on it. You should do a video on using the dash functions as it very confusing. The bike is very impressive.

nice review

I'm on the very tips of my toes and I don't care. This bike is fun and the most versatile, good looking bike I ever rode. I cant believe that I will be emptying my bank account to get one.

I will take both, one XC green, and one XE blue. 😁

Nice review, did I miss the part where you talked about how the suspensions felt on the road over the bumpy parts? Also personally I like the white and green, but wish Triumph had offered something a bit more toned down like the Speed Twin (grey/black/white). Even on the XC the black one could have been cool, but not a fan of the half matte with red pinstripe...All manufacturers should always offer a full black or dark grey option and then go crazy on the colors if you want...

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Agree in the black! The suspension was plush on the road. Giving a relaxed touring feeling and soaking up everything as suspected. However not too much as they are also quite stiff which is reassuring in corners (keeps its track without becoming wobbly). So it holds a good middleground for me. Also it is ofcourse fully adjustable and I would probable stiffen it up a little bit.

@Speedytrip

5 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 Fully adjustable is an overstatement :) I'm having mine re-worked (springs, valving and oil). There's not enough adjustments available in them to make them comfortable, even at the softest, they feel harsher than necessary. Someone wanting something stiff will be pleased, as you could make them as sporty as many sports bike (not exaggerating). But most adventure touring bikes I've ridden offered a much more relaxed ride. On rough pavement it makes you pay for every minute of it (and I'm 200lbs).

Traded my 2016 Tiger 800 XCA and my 2018 Street Scrambler for a loaded XE with Extreme Package. I owned a Bobber a few years ago and have owned a 2009 Street 3. This is all of them combined yet is capable of taking me off road like the Tiger. I will name her Goldilocks. Anyone who has a bitches about this bike either needs to buy another one in the T line, owns a KTM or BMW or simply can't afford one.

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, i also think this is a baby born from my ktm 1190r and my thruxton r. What els do you need? Did you consider the XC?

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Which colour did you get?

@markjacobs6294

5 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 I did not consider it because I am a 60/40 on off road rider. I owned a 2013, 1200 XC so the tall seat height has never been an issue for me either. The small cost difference is worth the upgrade IMO. If you're only going to ride off road on the occasional gravel road or 90/10 then get the XC. I'd go with the black one also. I went white/green on my S1200XE.

Hi!Very nice review,i would like to ask you if you would suggest it to a novice rider,thanks!

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

That depends how novice 😁. The riding position, power and electronics make for a forgiving and relative safe ride but to be honest I would not suggest it as a starter bike. Just a little to heavy and the torque needs to be controlled with care. To be honest

That red cobbled road at around 14mins must be as slippery as f##ck in the wet?!

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Yes when it rains those are a f... pain. I crashed on one last year while not paying attention. Luckily only my ego was bruised.

How much heavier was the KTM1190R you had? Did it have better road handling than the XE? Was the 1190 less top heavy?

@winglessoracle2967

4 жыл бұрын

The 1190r was a bit heavier at 217kg dry vs the 207kg of the triumph. I found the ktm to be more top heavy and harder to handle on foot due to its seathight. The roadhandling is on par with a slight plus for the cornering on the KTM. The KTM also has more grunt but in practice you hardly use it. Offroad I prefer the triumph as it gives me more confidence. For touring the wind protection of the KTM is nice but I was bothered by the wind buffering at highway speeds.

@Kaegis

4 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 Have you also tried the 1290 Super Adventure R? Apparently is a little heavier than the 1190R but make up for it in its composure and low down grunt etc. Interesting. There are no 1290's in the stealership in my area to try but I have pushed the XE around and it felt very top heavy and therear suspension was absolutely terrible. Hard like a rock. I certainly expected a lot different.

@winglessoracle2967

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kaegis Hi, I haven't tried the 1290 yet. I found the 1190 already to have lots more low power and grunt than required so I am sure te 1290 will be the same. No differance in that aspect between the two. If you dind the XE topheavy don't bother with the 1190 or 1290 they are even more top heavy. I find the XE to be the sweet spot for me in that aspect.

@winglessoracle2967

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kaegis agree that the rear is hard but for my riding that is fine.

Can the ABS and Traction control be turned off? How hard is it to do?

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Yes you can switch them of easily in the menu. Switch to offroad pro mode (only on the XE version) and everything is off. Very simple.

@actstuntcam

5 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 Cheers, does it hold that preference, or default to abs and traction on?

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

@@actstuntcam it sets to default if you switch the ignition fully off. Not sure it there is a workaround like the KTM dongles.

I bought the Speed Twin. Did not trust the exhaust of the Scrambler so close to my leg, even with some protection on it. Love the dutch country roads and classy villages

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the bike

@dirk-ac-coryn

5 жыл бұрын

The exhaust is not a problem. I’ve had the 900 scrambler and now I bought the 1200 xe two weeks ago. The exhaust is smaller on the 1200. I’ve had never a problem with the exhaust.

@c.g.c2067

4 жыл бұрын

well, being a tax heaven things are well kept

@Fr99763

4 жыл бұрын

C.G.C : whoah!

It's most definitely not on off road bike? So I took fifth place at the Mexican 1000. I guess that's not off roadie enough for you. Reviews are like elbows and assholes, everybody's got one it seems these days about this bike. most of them start out by saying this is definitely not an on or off road bike so what the hell is it then? I'll tell you, it's the best damn bike I've ever owned after owning 15 different Triumphs.

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, sorry to upset you. What I meant to say is that it is not a dirt bike (comparing it to 200 cc cross and enduro). I own one as well and sold two bikes after this review to get it as I agree it is the best bike I have ridden the last decade. I drive it offroad for 30% of the time and it is a blast. Just a bit cumbersome in technical single trails.

@markjacobs3956

5 жыл бұрын

@@winglessoracle2967 Yes maybe I was having an off day...sorry. I've just gotten so tired of all the reviewing "pros" saying it's not capable of this or that or anything because we'll, it's not a KTM or a BMW. I traded my 800 Tiger XCA and my Street Scam for my XE with Extreme package. Love love love it, 50/50 riding. Enjoy.

@winglessoracle2967

5 жыл бұрын

@@markjacobs3956 thanks for the replay. I agree. I owned a ktm 1190 r and this is easier and just as capable if not more off road. Traded my thruxton r and kawasaki versys to get it. It is proving to be the one bike that does it all. Enjoy!

@steveturner1633

4 жыл бұрын

True, I was out on a test ride with my Mrs on the back, made a wrong turn or right turn, ended up on a rough wet dirt forest road for 15 klms, gullies, ruts, water, slight mud, Mrs sat comfortably listening to jack johnson on the headphones and I relished in the elements and after that she was good enough for me - both of em.