It honestly makes me feel a lot better knowing that outstanding knife makers such as yourself have struggles along the way when learning new skills too. So thank you for showing the process even if it doesn’t turn out the way you’d like, it’s a nice touch of reality on the KZread scene

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Stainless Damascus is an unforgiving process. One mistake and it’s usually over. Hopefully this one won’t be the end. We’ll see next week. Thanks for watching.

The fact that you got a proper shape out of that mini knifemare has my respect, well done Denis...definitely waiting for next week and the big reveal.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I’m not that hopeful actually, but we’ll see! Thanks for watching.

I empathize with the frustration you must be feeling after so much work! And, I appreciate that you posted this series with all its warts and problems. You are undoubtedly saving somebody from the same frustrations when they try this.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

It’s an unforgiving process. We’ll see if this one error ends it all or if I get something next week. 🙏. Thanks for watching, Bryson.

Absolutely love your vidoes , and everything you make . You are an amazing knife maker , and bladesmith. I've been watching you for over 2 years now .

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for following the channel! I appreciate you watching. 🙏

Great work as always 👏👏

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Definitely an interesting and expensive knife/project Dennis. Nice cliffhanger as well. I'm really interested to see these final results. Thanks again!

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I’m not that optimistic it’s going to work out. We’ll see! Thanks for watching

Wow. I can't wait to see !!! I hope ot worked !! 😊

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I hope so too! Thanks for watching, Ben.

Such a tease man! Can’t wait to see what happens next!

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Well it’s not good news I’m afraid. You’ll see Thursday. Thanks for following along.

That profile looks good!

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

We’ll see if it is good enough for a blade. 😬. Thanks for watching, Greg.

Wish I had some suggestions but its such a complicated (and horrifically expensive) process that I'm kind of out of most practical ideas apart from that in future efforts, you'd have to go pretty big I reckon. Massive billets to get much out of the end result and it would be intriguing to see how its done in places like Damasteel, Takefu and Balbach as they seem to make quite a bit... but aren't sharing how they do it! The only other thought I had between last week and now was that in terms of the layers themselves, really thin strip stainless might be one way to do a bit of risk management in the sense that if you had say, 30 layers of 1mm steel, it'd save you doing 2 cut and shuts on 10 layers of 3mm steel and less of the anneal/normalise processes. That might give you the layers you want but lessen the waste of the cuts in between. Anyway in the process of doing it you're learning a lot and even if there isn't much to show for it at the end

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Josh Prince actually recommends the opposite, thicker layers to start so that they don’t transfer heat too much. I should have just welded it together then let it anneal and draw it out in another session. That’s what I get for trying to shortcut it. 😕. Thanks for watching.

Thanks for metrics 👍👍

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

No problem 👍

Your videos make it all look easy you are amazingly skilled! I had a question about hand sanding I was wondering about: should final sand be done after full temper and hardening? Thanks!

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Yes, final hand sanding is always after hardening and temper. Some guys take their pre-heat treat sanding down to 400 grit, but you just have to redo that anyway. Plus if you get a slight warp you need to do some grinding. Thanks for watching.

На прессе так бывает.Но как всегда класс.Мастеру терпения, счастья,здоровья и Любви.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Спасибо, что следите за нами!

Thank you for the video. I was considering to try and make SS damascus myself. Not anymore.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

It’s a very tough and unforgiving process I’m afraid. One mistake and it’s usually over. I’ll get it eventually. Thanks for watching.

@MrZetor

3 ай бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks English is not my first language, but even if it was, I reckon I'd struggle to find words to express how much I appreciate true master craftsmen like you, who show not only their successes, but also experiments that didn't go perfectly. I, for some reason, hate the idea of buying mass-produced stuff like damascus billets, and was seriously contemplating on spending, what, a couple hundred hours (and euros) on trying to make SS damascus of my own. Thanks to you doing, _AND_ publishing your progress, I realized that (especially with the much inferior gear I have access to) there's no way I could forge anything solid. So I gave up on this (argon) pipe dream, and saved a ton of time and money. Which is nice. My first professor told me that you _can_ write a paper (a scientific publication) about an experiment that didn't yield any advancement like higher speed, lower power consumption, lower cost, lower (silicon) area. I disagreed, and never even tried to submit anything that wasn't at least in some way better than the state of the art. In retrospect, I can now see that there definitely is value in informing others about methods, techniques, ideas, approaches, architectures, algorithms, etc., that simply cannot work, or have to be done in some exact manner to avoid failure.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

@@MrZetor I like to quote: "Success is a terrible teacher. We learn more from our mistakes than our successes". You might have just gotten lucky the first time but failing over and over makes you learn the process and know what issues you will face and overcome. 😉

@MrZetor

3 ай бұрын

​@@TyrellKnifeworks I literally could not agree more. 'Unearned' success (call it 'luck', or whatever) breeds complacency, which often leads to one taking unnecessary, and just outright stupid risks, thinking 'I got this. I got this.'. For example, I watched your 'CuMai' video and was _really_ impressed by the end product. I figured I'll give it a go, but honestly thought I'll fail miserably. Unexpectedly, it worked perfectly! The next attempt, I got _WAY_ too overconfident, and upped the ante. I had one similar but larger 15N20/Cu/15N20/Cu/15N20 billet, a regular steel damascus billet, and a 15N20/brass/15N20/Cu/52100/... billet in the forge at the same time. In a coal forge, that is, in a community college, with three other dudes with their stuff on at the same time, everyone constantly 'disturbing' the pile even... I took out the (apparently overheated) 52100 CuMai billet first, pressed it, and saw a molten stream of brass flying out maybe half a meter from my face (no full face shield, only glasses on). Yikes! The 'regular' Cu billet failed (didn't stick) also, probably because the 'brass incident' disturbed my focus, and I reckon I went to the press way too cold. This is stupid. There's even an old saying in Finnish "liian monta rautaa tulessa", which translates to 'too many irons in the fire', meaning 'too many pieces of steel in the forge [at the same time]'. Every native Finnish speaker knows what this phrase means, but I'd bet very few have any understanding about forging steel, let alone what actually happens to metal if you leave it in a hot forge for too long. But I should know better. I reckon the 'unearned success -> complacency -> (costly) failure' cycle applies to any activity performed by humans, not just forging. For example, I was chopping tinder (small/thin pieces of wood used in lighting a fire) from logs, holding the log in my left hand, and hitting it with a small (handle length ca. 20cm) axe. Gradually, the process got faster and faster, until I _literally_ thought aloud in my mind "Wow, I'm [skill-wise] a proper f'ing axe mrdr!". The next chop hit my thumb => 150km round trip to the hospital to get stitched. I still vividly remember my sister's daughter (maybe 5yo at the time), clearly shocked from the amount of blood, asking 'Why are you not crying?'. I replied 'Because it won't help anybody.'. But I digress. What I want(ed) to say is that your contribution to the art is _truly_ appreciated, and I can only hope that you keep on keeping on. Keep on doing what you are doing, that is.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

@@MrZetor Good thing it was only stitches and you still have a thumb. 😉

Any news on the viking challenge . I’ve been working on something but I wanted some official rules to abide by

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

It gets announced next week. Stay tuned!

Always interesting to see the conception of a new blade ! I was wondering if you'd be interested in making a damascus throwing knife that as a blade like a kunaï (diamond shape) ? I imagine it would be a huge challenge, not sure if doable. Inspiration from the game HUNT: Showdown. There is a throwing knife in-game called the "Shinbatsu", it is pretty complex in the handle design but the element that strikes the most is the diamond shape damascus blade.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I’ve made a kunai before a few years ago. Not that difficult of a blade to make. This stainless Damascus on the other hand, it’s quite the process. Thanks for watching.

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Just had a damascus knife do almost the exact same thing 15n20 an 1095 but the seem stayed together I'm not sure what happened any advice?

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Too hard to tell from just that statement. Likely you were forging it too cold but that’s just a guess. Thanks for watching.

i've done my own stainless steel damascus without gas. i weld all around my billet to get no oxygen, and i stretch this with my rolling mill. Then i go stock removal, no more forge for my billet Maybe it will help you. Thx for your vids, see you.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I’ve tried that and it can work but it has a lower probability than feeding in gas. I shouldn’t have tried to draw this out so soon after forge welding it. That was my issue. Thanks for watching.

I'm curious would you say its worth the time and material cost doing this yourself vs buying a billet from damasteel?

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Once you get the process down, then you can make your own patterns that Damasteel doesn’t offer. Plus buying Damasteel gives you a pattern everyone else has. 😉. Thanks for watching.

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In terms of the can coming apart, I’ve seen something similar on Forged in Fire. Can’t remember which episode it was, but a contestant wrapped his metal in a paper towel inside the can, and as he was going through his heats and began drawing it out, the fan started to come apart on its own. I don’t know the physics of what’s going on but it seems like it might not be something to be concerned about (mind you, this coming from someone who has no experience as a blacksmith and just watches a ton of videos, so I might just be talking out of my ass regarding this)

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

The paper is to remove the oxygen in the can. Feeding in argon is better. Thanks for watching.

@lightspeedvictory

3 ай бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks the guy in that episode was actually using it to keep the can from sticking to the billet, to make it easier to remove. But yeah, I see your point. Love your gold and silver Damascus works BTW

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

@@lightspeedvictory the paper works for that sometimes. Titanium dioxide works a bit better IMO. Paper can burn up and get absorbed pretty easily.

Why didn't you try your rollers to draw it out instead of the drawing dies ? I want to see what happens if you try that instead

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

You need to get the billet down under a 1/2” before you can use the rolling mill. I did use the rolling mill after to draw it out. Thanks for watching

Frig that was hot.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Hopefully new video coming

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

You’ll see an update this Thursday! Thanks for watching.

@hassanjaved1904

3 ай бұрын

@@TyrellKnifeworks your welcome

Looks like you are overheating. Your tc position is not great. Try to map your forge with a longer tc. You may be very surprised with the results.

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

I’ve already used a second, full length TC in the forge to double check and it reads accurately. It’s pretty optimally placed below the burner under the flame so the heat has to do a full circle before hitting it, which is exactly where the workpiece is. Thanks for the advice though.

First! 🤣

@TyrellKnifeworks

3 ай бұрын

Haha, hey B! Thanks for watching!