Is it just me or does the slide look like it’s moving so slow!

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

It’s sluggish for sure

@shuegler

Жыл бұрын

Might need a bit of a break in to run flawlessly. Some 1911 that are tight fitting need a small break in

@deathofkindness

Жыл бұрын

Totally what I was thinking

@sawoszao

Жыл бұрын

theres multiple people saying the fit is tight but sluggish because of the cerakote and it needs polishing

@kevinmcclintock8553

Жыл бұрын

They have 2 different types of the prodigy he’s using the one with the 5” barrel whereas the other model used more for speed and edc or even competitive shooting is the 4.25” barrel and the slide definitely reciprocates faster on the smaller one naturally

Thank you for participating in Springfields post release unpaid testing and evaluation.

@skurdibbles7913

Жыл бұрын

All my cop and gun buddies have hated their modern pistols for a decade now. It didn't surprise anyone who was paying attention. Springfield is a shat corporation.

@RepublicofTX

9 ай бұрын

Sig, Smith & Wesson, and majority of gun companies do the same thing.

My 4.25” had three failures to fully go into battery out of approximately 150rds on the first trip out. That was straight from the store to the range. Took it home and cleaned and lubed it. Next trip out, zero issues.

@StandorFall13

Жыл бұрын

every person I've heard say they had a problem with this pistol before cleaning and lubing it take it home give it some butter then take it out to the range :-)

@BeansAndBullets

Жыл бұрын

I cleaned and lubed mine before shooting it. I had no issues until recently. I had the chamber, stoned and polished. I ran 100 rounds through it immediately after.. no further issues. I think there was a burr from shooting shit ammo

@teamcq9204

5 ай бұрын

I had over 8 failure to feeds using good ammunition right out of the box. That’s with me and my kid racking the gun about 500 times before shooting. Another video blames the cerakote and that’s why we racked it. Now it’s cleaned and lube. Hopefully this issue goes away.

@Osprey1994

4 ай бұрын

I had about 10-15 failures to feed in the first 150. Cleaned it, lubed it, polished the feed ramp, polished the disco engagement sufraces, cleaned out the disco channels a bit, polished the block that pulls rounds off the mag lubed it, and it runs like a scalded cat for the past 350rds. Trying to chill on the amount of ammo I shoot as I have a class coming up, and I need my holster.@teamcq9204

@teamcq9204

4 ай бұрын

@@Osprey1994I sent my gun back to Springfield within a week of buying the prodigy. Here is what Springfield did to my brand new gun: -INSPECTED PISTOL -REAMED & POLISHED CHAMBER -REPLACED THUMB SAFETY -POLISHED FEED RAMP -REFIT BARREL -TUNED EXTRACTOR -REFINISHED SLIDE & FRAME -RESET TRIGGER SCREW. That’s a lot of fixing for a brand new gun. Haven’t got the gun back yet. I’ll say they jumped on the gun right away. Hopefully I gain the confidence back in this gun. Either way, I am buying a different brand of 2011. Thanks for responding. Take care

Been watching a few of your videos lately. You give me that chaotic ADHD vibe I can get down with. Keep ‘em comin’.

Heavier spring and a polish job. I promise. You'll like it.

@dontworryboutit6663

Жыл бұрын

Sucks considering its already $1500+…

@name_less7687

Жыл бұрын

@@dontworryboutit6663 Agreed .. a little pathetic really.. they should've done better qa

Definitely something up with that recoil spring. I’m noticing that the ejected shells are barely clearing the gun as well. It’s too soft to send the slide back into battery position. Send it back to Springfield, they’ll fix it.

Got that good old Springfield quality.

@UrbanEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

You sound dumb the hellcat and the hellcat pro are the best selling guns of 2022 and the saint edge is arguably one of the best factory AR’s right now

I'm curious to see what a strong recoil spring will bring to the table. Like a 12lb. Might be a bit strong recoil wise but would prob solve all the out-of-battery issues.

@MichaelMorris1991

Жыл бұрын

Idk man the recoil seems sluggish I feel like it might make it worse. I've heard the 4.3" barrel is smoother

@deltaforce3702

Жыл бұрын

Haha exactly

@asymsolutions

Жыл бұрын

​@MichaelMorris91 correct, he needs to go down not up. The full size slide is a lot in weight for 9mm range ammo to cycle properly. I'd get a set of #11-#8 springs (about 40usd) and starting from the heaviest go down until you have no more failure to feeds.

@MSSynsyterGates

Жыл бұрын

@@asymsolutions Yeah but the company shouldnt of released it if you have to go out and buy more things to fix it.

@asymsolutions

Жыл бұрын

@MSSynsyterGates it's a flat shooter not a cheap run steel case through it kind of gun. So if you don't use the same ammo they use for testing you'll get bad results. They could make it work with any ammo, but that would require a stupid low lb spring rate that slams the slide into the frame, which is how most common 9mms are tuned. Which of course introduces the issue of limp wristing. If target loads would keep to saami spec, this wouldn't be an issue.

It's the ammo brand I've had it happen to a 40 kimber before so I changed to a different brand and it ran smooth

Never had a jam in my Ruger 1911,other than my re loads but this is still a nice looking Springfield.

@winndixie5505

Жыл бұрын

Wait older model never locked up...even thrown in the mud..it's these new types where everything is cheap that causes jams..

"This competes with the Staccato P" 🤣🤣🤣

@ejmarkle60

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't meant to compete with the Staccatos

@seang1032

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not. But it's a budget 2011 with good trigger. Still has some kinks and a longer break in period. But although around 1500, I'd rather spend the extra money for a c2 or any staccato really

@tokin420nchokin

Жыл бұрын

from what I understand sti had growing pains too and they are just now mastering the magazine

@alu.304

Жыл бұрын

@@tokin420nchokin true on the Gen 1's. They are about as reliable as the 1911/2011 platform can be now on the Gen 2's. It's the Dawson Pattern STI mag. Several companies have learned to tweak it.

@tokin420nchokin

Жыл бұрын

@@alu.304 good information. I don't own a 1911 or a 2011 but I can understand people expecting it to work reliably out of box for the price they are. Do you know if the stacatto mags fit in the the Springfield? I have not really been paying much attention to the gun but I have seen a lot of complaints about it.

I've seen many of these reviews on this firearm and this is the first one that showed the firearm not operating properly, it may be the ammo or its the firearm itself, i return it back to springfield armory and have them fix the issue 👍

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

Going to run some +p+ through it later today to see if I can get this thing to do something else. However. I’ll give it another 300 rounds before I send it back

@KingdomKillaz117

Жыл бұрын

It's not the only one. There's a big issue with the quality control. Stop blaming the ammo. If my $500 Glock can cycle anything, a $1500 2011 should too.

@beasmode18

Жыл бұрын

You watched the reviews on the influencers that got theirs for free. Watch the people who actually purchase this pistol and you will see that this is a common problem

@hunter32043

Жыл бұрын

A big key with these 2011’s and even 1911’s every company is trying to get that butter smooth action or close to it so a lot of these guns you wanna run really wet try really putting some good lube on her and I feel like the issues shouldn’t persist

@josephlawrence6873

Жыл бұрын

Only the 5 inch model seems to have this issue. The 4.25 inch is flawless 😍

Every Springfield I've ever used worked great as long as you were using good mags like Wilson Combat.

@andrewdanvers308

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffkendel1570 most stock mags for 1911s suck ass. And you don't have to hunt for WCs, they're easy to come by. And they're tougher and better spec'd than anything else out there. Kinda like Magpuls for ARs.

@TietLung

8 ай бұрын

I've run everything from cheap mec gars and check mates to wilsons, mcormicks and Ed brown. Never had any issues with any. My springfields seem less picky on mags than some of my other 1911s. Never tried the super low end mags like Promag though.

@bigshames

3 ай бұрын

Or just buy a Wilson combat

Reload was sexy smooth!

That ammo is super low powered!!!

@travispritchard2013

Жыл бұрын

Could it be underpowered reloads?

@raulenchautegui4749

Жыл бұрын

Until we know what ammo it can be over or under sprung

@chrisbanks7830

Жыл бұрын

I think it's more the recoil spring, but we don't know what ammo so who knows.

I love how so many people can't just stick with something that works. Always needing new.

@jeffpopiel7304

Жыл бұрын

Especially when everything new is simply what we had before but you can hold 1 more round in the "new" one 🤣. Seems like all the recent money is going into thinning out the grips to hold as many rounds as possible while also subsequently thinning out the mag. I'll stay with my steel mag single stacks and make em count.

@sbfguy7793

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffpopiel7304 exactly. Single stack metal mags and double action revolvers. Reliability>everything.

For $1500 MSRP I need my pistol to run flawlessly out the box - especially when I have a few pistols that cost a lot less that did just that (Walther PDP, HK VP9 Tactical, FN 509T, HK P30L). I’ll pass and just save up for a Staccato or Bul Armory DS 1911

@jimdandy3326

Жыл бұрын

It’s just a break-in period.

@user-mq1up2fw4r

Жыл бұрын

@@jimdandy3326 that's not excusable for a $1500 handgun. If this was the case for a glock, everyone would be tearing it apart.

@jimdandy3326

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mq1up2fw4r 🤣🤣🤣

@Migazii

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mq1up2fw4r bruh… 🤣🤣 you just literally stated what everyone does to a Glock..

@GunGuy258

Жыл бұрын

@@Migazii yup. Defend every junk Glock with their lives. 😆

that beard is glorious man 👍

If it was a sig doing that, they'd just tell you it has a 500 rd break in period

Mine would do the same thing after 300 rounds. Deep cleaned it and lube her up and she runs great. Had to put blue lactate on the guidrod also. Once you break her down it will loosen up every once in a while

And the shills on SA armory’s ad for this gun is “I’d depend my life on this gun”. Smh

@Osprey1994

Жыл бұрын

And you have people shooting light target loads out of this thing with no problem...definitely a QC failure. In the end though I would still rather buy from BUL than SA.

@driftitlikeyouownit

Жыл бұрын

The QC will get better stop acting like it is the end of the world this is a first gen of its kind in the lower price bracket. You instant gratification people need to calm down.

@pistolgrips

Жыл бұрын

A couple of malfunctions makes not a bad pistol. Give it a few rounds. It’ll be fine.

@DGonz0-

Жыл бұрын

Sub ammo... subsonic, less powder dude

@on2wheels378

Жыл бұрын

It's new, 1911s out the box are tight. I doubt he's using full power rounds. But yeh, kind of presumptive in your part. 1911s In whatever caliber they are tight, they fire a few target rounds, maybe seven for function but, yeh, u don't load a pistol up with defense ammo after u buy it, without breaking it in. Or maybe u do?

I checked out one at Bass pro the other day and the slide would hang up about 1/4 inch from the full rear position and I showed it to the clerk. They checked a few others they had in stock and determined it was defective and set it up to send back... I want one so bad though

LMAO at the arm chair pistol smiths in the comments.

Those guns are cerakoted so you need to polish the rails or 11 to 12 lb recoil spring to help faster in the breakin period

@OvertonWindex

Жыл бұрын

For 1500 they can do that at the factory. Its a 110 year old design. What a joke.

@GT-ev3om

Жыл бұрын

@@OvertonWindex might be 110-year-old design but it's still going strong and all the Glock Fanboys are switching to them 🤷🤷🤷🤷

@OvertonWindex

Жыл бұрын

@@GT-ev3om kid. You use emojis. Nothing you say means anything.

Not the only gun of this type to need a break in.

@ekimnamdets6946

Жыл бұрын

Needs oil too

@BabyWick351

Жыл бұрын

who tf is Eugene and Ortha?

Lean into big fella

Love the shirt "house party fuds" lol

Gotta polish that feed ramp....and different extractor...egw parts worked for me💯💯💯

Mine did it right out of the box too.. Threw some lube at it and I never get a failure.. Also only shoot 124gr out of it because I usually get problems from 115gr

It's like my $175 diamondback DB9 gen 2 trigger malfunctions out the ass

4.25" 150rds day 1 with a little bit of lube, had 10-15 failures to feed. Cleaned it, polished the feed ramp, disco, and just did a bunch of massaging that I found by doing a bit of research (coworker helped too) and now the gun has about a 3.5lb trigger pull, and runs like a scalded cat (500rds). I'll weigh in on how it's performing after this upcoming class, but at this point, the disco drag has almost vanished, if you quickly rack it you won't feel it. Gun isn't as smooth as some of the more expensive options, but I wasn't trying to spend 1700-2400 on something I might not like.

You just got jammed!

I’ve put 400 rounds through my ruger 45 acp 1911 and never had one round stove pipe jam or otherwise piss me off yet. Love my 1911

@1979bobhd

Жыл бұрын

@Michael Davis • I have shot hundreds of rounds through my Kimber 1911 .45 and not a malfunction yet I am nearing 1300 rnds.

hey look it's the superior defense guy

It being sluggish makes it look flat shooting. Pretty cool if you ask me.

FN man here,not a Springfield fan.this proves why

Same thing happened to me with a rented staccato P. We oiled up the slide rails and stopped it all together

Paperweight?

Yup know a few others happened the same way..can't repetition fire to quick on these ..they need an overhaul although it's a really sweet bad ass gun...

Boycott SA until they recant their support for gun control and start resisting government violations! If Barrett and S&W can do it, so can SA!

@Osprey1994

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people haven't been supporting SA for a LONG time. I like HS Produkt and I think they make some interesting stuff, but I can't justify supporting Springfield. But realistically the best thing you can do is actually go to stores that aren't partnered with SA and don't stock their products.

@driftitlikeyouownit

Жыл бұрын

Then the two of you need to stop supporting Ruger, Daniel Defence, all gas stations, oil itself for any reason, tires, all fast food restaurants, Walmart, HEB, Costco and any and all big buissness. I bet you won't do that now will you?

@jmmywyf4lyf

Жыл бұрын

Springfield recanted that support almost immediately.. thats old news

@luke8222

Жыл бұрын

I’ll never buy from them I don’t care how cheap and how amazing the quality is. They are a garbage brand.

@markpetela5286

Жыл бұрын

@@driftitlikeyouownit if they sold guns I would

I have the 5 inch and shot over 600 rounds through it. Same issues. I recently replaced it with a Wilson combat 12lb recoil spring and so far no issues with 200 rounds through it. The stock spring is wayyyyy too light on these things and you can visibly see it and physically feel it. Upgrading the spring will fix the issue. At first I thought it was my magazines but they run flawlessly now.

Already hearing about some pf these that might be 'tight chambered'. Recommend you plunk test your ammo ahead of time. Not all reloading dies properly resize ammo just above of the extractor groove, and, while .388" resizing might cut it for factory Glock barrels, some Prodigy barrels are measuring only .385". Be careful of 'blaming the extractor' unless plunk testing first.

So, a typical Springfield

Good point what ammo are you running.

I love the 1911

Great video, but really 2 weeks? I’m worried I may wait longer since SA is probably up to their necks with warranty work.

What kind of underpowered ammo are you running ?

I recently bought the XDm elite. I love it, and now I'm zeroing in on the Prodigy. I am impressed with all these well informed comments. Gives me lot's to think about.🤔

@hamiltonstrickland9593

Жыл бұрын

The xd elite is flawless. I'm really just trying to figure out what is going on here!

My sig 365 did the same thing a few times in the first 200. Took it apart, lubed the shit out of it, it’s ran flawlessly ever since. Not all guns are Glocks, some need some break in.

they had chamber tolerance issues, 2 out of 3 of my friends who got one dumped em because of this. You can see the ejection is super weak

Gotta break the gun in first before you judge it. The recoils spring and feed ramp and other parts just need some wear to run flawlessly. And make sure the gun is actually lubed up as well, a dry gun won’t run right

@mortiarty7842

Жыл бұрын

Seen a trex arms pistol mag dump 1000rds right out of the box no lube

Sub 200.. so pre break in? My number too about 500-700 and then ran like a German sewing machine

@EveryDayCrud

Жыл бұрын

700 is more then %90 of people will shoot in their life. A break in period shouldn’t be more then 200 rounds.

@jamesjay8479

Жыл бұрын

@@EveryDayCrud for 1500 a gun shouldn’t need a break in period IMO. Of course the more you shoot the better it will get but it should run flawlessly out of the box

@EveryDayCrud

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjay8479 i entirely agree

@user-hl6ls8sv4t

11 ай бұрын

@@EveryDayCrud Why get a gun if not train and shoot it. 700 rounds is like a few range days per month for a year

Don’t you wish they would equip automatic handguns with some sort of slide release lever so you only need a twitch of your thumb to charge the weapon? Wouldn’t look as operator, though.

I noticed when the malfunction occurred. The safety was engaged

Mine was very slow into battery, I think they undersprung the system. I think its an 11lb spring or so. I swapped to a 14 and mine pepped right up. If it were smoother I think it would be fine but its not lapped. I'm going to try to lap the slide to the frame and see if it helps. I will use some diamond lapping compounds I use for my other pistols. These things would be awesome if they just took an extra 30 minutes to lap them. Even the rails are kinda tight on mine. I bought mine to use as a starting point. If I have to add some metal to it to tighten it, I don't mind. Great being a gunsmith sometimes...because now I can have nice things. Btw, it's a great pistol, even worth the $1800 some stores are charging for it. My shop sells for $1400 and we have 60 people who left cc numbers to get one.

I’m think seriously of getting one of these along with a dot optic.

@johnrose9503

Жыл бұрын

@Lynx Actual brah does anyone pay attention anymore

The prodigy is one of those guns you have to run with nothing on the moment we start putting lights in optics on it the slide don't go fully into battery prodigy is a great gun but only when you run it clean

The 5 inch is a lot of mass with that low recoil spring. I head if you go up 1-2 pounds then you will have a lot less issues. The 4.25" cycles much better as the high end 9mm are usually 4:5-4.6 inches long. A 5" is really long for the forges steel slide. It's a big boy.

Why does the ejection pattern seem so tiny? Figured it would launch those casings. They’re barely making it out of the way it looks like.

Looks like smooth recoil and recycle

That brass is barely dribbling out of there like an old man's limp seed.

That slide is struggling to cycle

@Slay_No_More

Жыл бұрын

Its a Springfield, what'd you expect?

@tidefanyankee2428

Жыл бұрын

Underpowered ammo?

@Johnblaze678

Жыл бұрын

@@tidefanyankee2428 Spring weight is too heavy, and the slide is dragging on the disconnector

@tidefanyankee2428

Жыл бұрын

@@Johnblaze678 I just gave one possibility.

Let me ask a quick question did you lube it enough. 2011/1911 need to be run wet. They are not polymer guns. Also did you run 115 or 124 or 147

been done with Springfield for a while. Does not surprise me.

from owning a Mr920( basically a glock) and the springfield prodigy is that u can’t run them the same the prodigy demands u being more gentle with it and high maintenance, as in glock u can essentially run it with no lube and dirty as hell and it will still run.

Weird, a 1911 having malfunctions.

It needs a heavier recoil spring

@sv2697

Жыл бұрын

No it need the issue fixed from Springfield.

@ericcoats4890

Жыл бұрын

@@sv2697 he told you how to fix the issue. Whether Springfield does it, or you do it. The result will be the same. A working gun

@sv2697

Жыл бұрын

@@ericcoats4890 u should not have to buy a new gun and expect to fix it urself at ur own cost even if it's a 10 second job.

@matthewrobinson5249

Жыл бұрын

@@sv2697 1911 people are expecting to tune the gun after purchase. Comes with the boomer vibe. I love my prodigy tho no issues here so far.

@driftitlikeyouownit

Жыл бұрын

@@sv2697 that is one of the issues and springfield wil fix them calm down. This is a 1911 styled as a 2011 even those have issues of thier own

Every 1911 has a break in point js

A 1911 malfunctioning??? Unfortunately this is all too common

Just curious if those were the mags that came with it or were they different 2011 magazines, and were you shooting 115gr?

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

Sti / duramag. And factory 124gr

The issue is the mags from my understanding the lips on them are off so billets point straight and hit the ramp sometimes catching on it. My friend has the 5 inch model zero issues but I’m seeing ppl with the same model who have issues the 4.25 works better from my understanding

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a magazine issue, rounds aren’t getting into the gun just not going all the way into battery

@princerob20101

Жыл бұрын

@@fortknoxpodcast well it most definitely don’t effect all models because my friends don’t do it at all we shot close to 500 rounds no issues all types of ammo

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

@@princerob20101 hoping it’s a break in period

@princerob20101

Жыл бұрын

@@fortknoxpodcast same I got one on layaway the 4.25 model I’m buying mine still I don’t care I’m sure if it’s the barrel, they will fix the issue and give everyone new barrels or springs whatever it may be. These guns are legit. If anything when I get mine and send it for a nice camo job I’ll have the dude sand some of the parts

Absolutely Jam

Start playing this game of thinning out the grips and thinning out the mag to hold just "one more round" and issues are sure to follow. Guns are like cell phones, you can only make them so big so thin so light before they all start to reach a same style playing field.

Yeah that's Springfield for you

My Springfield 1911 did that for about 500 rds. I got fed up and sent it to my gunsmith to figure out and fix the issue. The word he used was "reliability updates and I had no issues after the work had been done. Things that make you go Hmmmm?

There’s always a reason for shit like this it’s likely the ammo or the magazine my guess is if you shot a hotter round it’d be less sluggish on the slide and work the way it’s meant to but it could be anything

Very nice……break it in n you will be gravy

I’ll stick to my staccato. I was thinking of getting one of these but not now.

@mixedmarksman5873

Жыл бұрын

if your willing to spend that much on stacatto why would you buy a cheaper 2011? lol cz shadow 2 custom all day

@aishefasani5635

Жыл бұрын

Shut up. You know you don't have a Staccato lol

@driftitlikeyouownit

Жыл бұрын

What he said....this is going to be entry level for the rest of us who either cannot or don't want to buy a 2k to 4k pistol which I think is rediculous personally.

@jeffpopiel7304

Жыл бұрын

@@driftitlikeyouownit true, considering all my pistols are under 1,000 and never failed me.

@HansBelphegor

Жыл бұрын

@@driftitlikeyouownit 1500 isnt entry level but mmkay

Running like a high point.

Pretty much... It is like the disconnector is one giant burr. Should I polish the disconnector or replace it? Another channel used a Wilson Bullet Proof Disconnector and 12lb spring adn viola no issues.

Best 1911 performance to date well done …

Wellllllllll that didn’t go as planed👀

my $300 Taurus is never failed THC 9

@fortknoxpodcast

Жыл бұрын

Yes it did. Quit that bullshit

if a firearm has an issue you work it out clean it maintain it polish it etc and if after all that it still don't work then it's a toy not a tool

It's evolving, except backwards

I've had a couple of prodigies and every one of them gave me trouble bought and sold all 3 of them within a fortnight lol

Are you using reloads?

He’s got pretty big hands. I wonder if his crush grip is partially engaging the mag release button causing the stoppages?

I heard this has to do with their placement of the extractor?? Apparently it helps avoid the malfunction if we lightly insert the mag rather than slamming it like were usually taught.

According to my son in law, to the trash can with it if it EVER has a malfunction! We went shooting one day and SAR CM9 (CZ clone) had one failure to eject and I’ve never heard the end of it! To him it didn’t matter that it was the first magazine through it and had not even had the initial cleaning (my fault). But he never has an answer why my groups are .75” and his are 4”! He a Glock fanboy.

with all due respect sir, buying that pistol for $1500, try RIA TAC ultra instead, almost same look and features spending half a price of it. unless you just want the brand. ✌🏻

This giving me PTSD.

The big arms help a lot, Im sure.

Most 2011 style guns have a break in period (up to 500 rds). I mean, except for the staccato...cuz....you know. 😉 BUT I am curious what his left hand was doing and maybe his support thumb had a little too much pressure on the slide or if it was truly the gun

What headset do you use?

I have 15 thousand rounds threw mine now. That hang up happened 5 times. I was smart enough to change recoil spring, an polish that disconnect head

@fortknoxpodcast

3 ай бұрын

I lost this thing. … no idea where it’s at

My Springfield runs flawlessly. Shooting low powered ammo or using cheap mags?

What typ of ammo are you using

What's up with the hammer check on the second mag?

Sound like somebody beating on them old school metal garbage cans 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿