Jared, your test was totally fine :) Don't sweat it! It looks like a lot, however part of the reason you add that much is because you don't want to have to come in and reapply more. As a gardener I hate re-fertilizing part way through the season, and by adding that much right off the bat, you won't have to. The square foot application is for rows and for direct seeding, it always looks like more in containers, but it does truly go a long way. When we use it on our garden, we are able to plant about 30 tomatoes with just 3 pounds of Trifecta.

@MIgardener

9 жыл бұрын

Permaculture Prepper First off, what in the world is your proof. Second what mean bug crawled up your butt while in the garden? Man you are a lonely soul to compile such an elaborate lie.... Nobody will be knocking on my door, and I have 12 different 50 pound bags of raw materials in my garage... so I would be hard pressed for anyone to think I am repackaging. >_< thanks for the laugh though. You have been blocked from my channel.

@MIgardener

8 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks Man, that means a lot. So many people try to say bad things about us, but frankly I think most of it is out of jealousy. I couldn't help but to see you lived in boulder! I absolutely LOVE it there. Many blessing to you and let us know how it does for you!

@salc348

7 жыл бұрын

MIgardener | Simple Organic Gardening & Sustainable Living _

@forrestforrest7790

7 жыл бұрын

Unless the test is to compare unmanaged soil to managed soil I don't understand how the test is fine. I am just learning about gardening but I am experienced with testing and experimenting.

@kstickak

6 жыл бұрын

Is there a results video?

I agree that you should add 2 more buckets with compost or some other fertilizer to make the test fair

I have used Trfecta+ and other MIgardener products and I will continue to use and recommend them as a great company and resource. I, for one, am speaking from experience.

@JandjacresNet

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for sharing mate. It will be interesting to see the results. I've not used a packet amendment for a long while and it will be interesting to see how much of an effect it can have on doing nothing at all.

I especially like the ribbon involved. :)

Maybe it's just me but that seems like a pretty normal amount for organic fertilizer? I'm used to Dr. Earth products which I think are pretty similar amounts. Maybe a little less but Luke's product isn't just pure fertilizer it has other things in it as well, so I can see needing abut more.

I subscribe to MIgardener. I look forward 2 seeing the results.

Can't wait to see how it works out ;~}

Where can we see your results from this trial?

@J&J Acres: Do you have the bean soup recipe?! ;-)

What is his website to buy that from

Jared, With your property there is no need for bagged fertilizer. With your tractor and brush mower you should be making large amounts of Ramial chipped wood. RCW plus all the different manures and soiled bedding you have nutrient surplus.

@JandjacresNet

9 жыл бұрын

It's just something to try. I didn't go looking for it.

@ellisonrepair

9 жыл бұрын

J&J Acres I think you will find a big difference between depleted soil and soil filled with candy. At least add three more buckets with compost or aged manure. Make it a fair experiment.

@HighDesertGarden

9 жыл бұрын

Double Dog Farm ~ Shoestring Gardening on a KISS Principle agreed. I do subscribe to Luke's channel and I purchase things from his seed store; however, this isn't really a fair experiment to just try it in depleted soil. I'm not saying that Trifecta doesn't work, in fact, I can think of many uses for it. J&J Acres In my humble opinion, the test would be a lot more fair if you used an organic potting mix that hasn't been used. Sorry if this seems anal. Keep inspiring people to grow ;)

@David-fv7zg

9 жыл бұрын

I would somewhat disagree with all of the fair test comments. Jared certainly isn't intentionally trying to fix this test, watch a few more of his videos and you will see that's not how he does things. Try looking at it from a different perspective...Luke has shown multiple videos as to how this product produces great produce in good soil. I believe a true test is how it performs in poor soil. I don't expect these beans to be the best crop he has had by any means due to the nature of the original soil content, and I think it control will show the difference. If the Trifecta mix gives even decent results, this test was a success. Think about it, if you get decent results from poor soil, what do you think will happen with really good soil? This test will show exactly what this product can do in a suboptimal environment. I agree that Jared has wonderful inputs for his growing needs based on his location and animals. I also agree that a comparison study against compost, miracle grow, etc would be a good test, but this isn't what he is trying to achieve here. To me this is a very basic test of this product to see the true advantage of it in really poor soil. Luke has shown what it can do in good soil, I'm curious to see what it will do in the bad stuff because let's face it, not all of us have perfect soil and I'm looking forward to seeing how this holds up under really tough conditions.

@ellisonrepair

9 жыл бұрын

Dave Pruitt I'm a very bias when it comes to Luke. Many of you know, I think he's an arrogant bastard. He likes to insult groups of people. Organic farmers. The over weight. Elderly women and ethnicity. Just watch his videos. ;-) Jared is a certified permaculturist. He certainly knows that soil health never comes from a bag.

Anybody know why Trifecta+ dropped their NPK on this product from 10-13-12 to 5-10-4? Was it burning plants?

@cliffw4713

7 жыл бұрын

Tonio Yendis Yeah because legally you can only put what is readily available to the plant from the fertilizer.

@farmerdale9303

7 жыл бұрын

those numbers used in this labeling scheme do not directly represent the source composition or absolute nutrient content of the fertilizer. Also it is based on weight so if you mix in fillers your weight of nutrients will be lower.

I seen video the other day were the guy used triple 19 or triple 13 fertilizer during planting watermelons and wound up with 50 to 100 pound melons. he said the cost was about 14 dollars for 40 pounds. he used the same thing with chicken litter on his tomatoes and they were monsters. How much is that Trifecta and sea 90 I can't remember the channels name something like runnin gardener reb but he was very good at showing things cheaply done.

@JandjacresNet

7 жыл бұрын

This bag was sent to me specifically so I could do the test, so I did not pay for it. Then I failed the test because my irrigation failed and all the plants died, so the test was never even completed. You can look for the fertilizer at migardener.com/

Did you ever post the results of the test?

@JandjacresNet

8 жыл бұрын

No, I went away on vacation and the drip irrigation failed and all the plants died.

Good Luck! :)

Tidy Cats buckets 🤣

This is not a fair comparison. Besides control you should have regular miracle grow to compare with. Right now you are comparing no fertilizer to fertilizer. Of course Trifecta will do better. This looks fixed. I am sure you were not intending to have an unfair test. Just add one with regular store bought fertilizer to an other 2 buckets to make it fair.

@PermacultureHomestead

9 жыл бұрын

KALSINFILMS Luke is a con man, looks like he repackaged some store bought 10 10 10 and added an inoculant, im betting hes ripping good people off just to make a buck. he probably doesn't have a license to sell fertilizers in his state and that stuff is obviously NOT organic lol

@courtneymcfarland8333

9 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't compare to Miracle grow personally... That's something I would never use in my garden anyways! Even if he doesn't compare it to another fertilizer it's still going to show that it at least does something if it shows results.

@KALSINFILMS

9 жыл бұрын

Courtney McFarland Comparing to control is like Comparing Cars to walking and declare cars get you from A to B faster. At least trow a competition Car in the Race.

@courtneymcfarland8333

9 жыл бұрын

Maybe he's not testing if it works better than other fertilizers but wants to simply see what amount of improvement it provides? He said himself he wanted to see the difference between no amendment and amending with trifecta. If that's what he wants to see then the experiment setup is perfect. How about everyone who has an issue with it does their own experiment and then makes their own video about their results??

@PermacultureHomestead

9 жыл бұрын

Courtney McFarland how bout nobody use this product cause its an unlicensed, stolen, copyright infringed piece of un-organic garbage.

Dude you gotta update with a note saying the experiment spoiled and provided no results.

@JandjacresNet

7 жыл бұрын

History tells me that most folks wouldn't read the note, so no point in bothering.

@forrestforrest7790

7 жыл бұрын

I bet most people are a little sad that they watched the whole video only to find out you bailed on them. Come on don't feel so down. You do all this stuff and you let this get you down?

@JandjacresNet

7 жыл бұрын

Rest assured, KZread and several folks who comment here, not you, get me down all the time.

@forrestforrest7790

7 жыл бұрын

I get the same way. I am trying to align myself with the fact that humans are also wild animals and not always predictable. It is hard to blame them for bad actions.

@nunyabiznis817

6 жыл бұрын

You don't know how to read history, then. You are right, people do not normally read "show notes" but they do read them in a case where a video is expected to have a followup video.

Careful what you say at the end of the experiment should Trifecta fail to give adequate results (it may very well do fine). Apparently the owners of this fertilizer don't like negative criticism of any sort.

@JandjacresNet

9 жыл бұрын

Mind Bones, the truth will be told for everyone to see, regardless of the results.

@PermacultureHomestead

9 жыл бұрын

Mind Bones luke is a con man, he repackaged some 10 10 10 added an inoculant and calls it his own, im betting 100 bucks its NOT organic, and im also betting that he doesn't have a license to sell fertilizer in his state. CON MAN all the way.

@HighDesertGarden

9 жыл бұрын

Permaculture Prepper what makes you think that it's not organic? Have you held the bag in your hands or analyzed it up close? I myself have never seen this stuff except for on Luke's channel; therefore, I can't say one way or the other; however, I'm curious to know what you've seen that indicates that it is not organic? Are you saying this because it doesn't have an OMRI label?

@MIgardener

9 жыл бұрын

High Desert Garden He has absolutely no truth. It is complete bogus lies. I use it on my very garden, and I grow absolutely chemical free. It is very much organic, however not omri listed because that is outragously expensive.

@HighDesertGarden

9 жыл бұрын

***** I understand. Just because something isn't certified organic doesn't mean that it isn't still organic.

So what where the results. Seen one comment about a faulty irrigation system. If this was the case. Most folks would fix the issue and re-exam the product. I'm sure that folks out there would like to know. I work to hard for my paycheck to make some one else's life easier. But if this is a true to word product. Then the results should be published. Even in a non scientific environment.

@JandjacresNet

6 жыл бұрын

I used all of the product the first time so there was no way to re-do the experiment. MI Gardener had sent me the first bag for free to try, but I didn't feel like the experiment was worth me purchasing another bag to try again. Sorry to let you down.

Where's the footage with the results?

@JandjacresNet

5 жыл бұрын

Never happened. Went on vacation, drip irrigation failed, everything died.

@TheVigilantStewards

4 жыл бұрын

@@JandjacresNet lol dang I just watched this whole video

Not a good test. You should have compared with another product

@JandjacresNet

7 жыл бұрын

It wasn't a good test because my irrigation failed while I was on vacation, so the test was never completed. I'm sure MI Gardener would love to see you give it a try yourself!

the world future for food is ketogenic

No comment except to say no comment. ;)

@JandjacresNet

9 жыл бұрын

*****, your restrained is well appreciated, as is your viewership :-)

I have one bucket with plain old soil with all the nutrients gone and one I will put fertilizer in. Let's all hold our breath and see how great Trifecta works. Bahhhahahaha.

@JandjacresNet

5 жыл бұрын

How many samples would be sufficient for you? 3? 10? 100? A full field? A test is a test.

Damn Troll's!

About 10 years ago, I decided to try using compost tea in my garden. The concept fascinated me. I then had a conversation with my wife. Wife: What are you doing now? Me: I'm mixing compost tea. Wife: What for? Me: For my veggies, obviously. Wife: You mean, in addition to all that other stuff like seaweed and fish oil and Gawd knows what else? Me: Yep. Wife: What does this stuff do? Me: It delivers the ingredients in the compost to the soil ... um ... more quickly that just putting compost on the beds. Wife: How do you know it works. It just looks messy to me! Me: Compost is messy. And I KNOW it works because other gardeners are using it and they say it works for them. Wife: I'm glad we don't handle our finances the way you manage your garden! And we're running out of room to store all that stuff you add to the garden. Me: Okay (I probably really said "Yes, dear" but I don't want to sound sexist ... oops). That conversation bugged me so much so that I decided to have a lab do soil tests. It was expensive but I found I had a reasonably healthy soil a little high in phosphorus and potassium. I resolved to add nothing more to my raised beds but compost (home made). I've had great success with my veggies since that time. My nature has always been to explore and try new things but especially when it comes to my garden, I do not try anything new that doesn't show a reasonably evidence-based, measurable result as tested on a normal healthy soil. I don't give any credibility to anecdotal results, scientific-sounding advice, testimonials, claims that hundreds or thousands have found success, or "it works for me". Choose any gardening topic for soil amendments beyond compost then do a Google search on that topic. Filter your search by using terms such as "field trial". Pay particular attention to domain sites such as *.org or *.unv - science-based sites. This can be done on such subjects as compost tea, rock dust/azomite, biochar, etc. In fact, I did this on the topic of this video - Trifecta Plus. You will notice that on many topics, there are very few controlled field trials. And if you think about it, the reason is that the particular ingredient doesn't show any significant result when applied to the average, healthy garden soil. And then there's "confirmation bias" ... that's the "active ingredient" in a large number of garden products out there. If you really think about it, if a prolific garden KZreadr had a product that REALLY works, don't you think they would publish a controlled field trial on their product?

@JandjacresNet

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Ron, thanks for your post. I do understand where you are coming from and generally agree, though I don't think I can agree with your last statement. On one hand, fertilizer is fertilizer - in the sense that it wasn't as if he was making a claim that you'll get a bumper crop every year or grow a tomato the size of your head, etc. All I can do it put it in my perspective. Lets say I made compost at home and wanted to sell it to folks. Would I publish some sort of controlled field trial? Probably not. I'd probably just tell folks it works great in my garden and tell them what all I put into the compost. But, that's just me!

@priayief

6 жыл бұрын

Of course, you're correct. I missed the obvious point that if you're marketing a product you're not going to show how it doesn't work. I guess that's why I went back to basics ... I'm cheap and lazy. Have a great day.

@JandjacresNet

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps I misunderstood your point. I presumed you were suggesting that a KZreadr would go out and pay for a formal study to be done on their product. Frankly, if the N-P-K has been analysed, then they are meeting the same requirements as any other fertilizer producer. But, as I said, I'm with you - make compost.

Can't believe I've just wasted 20 minutes watching this and then trying to find the results video - only to (eventually) discover that there isn't one because the trial failed when the irrigation packed up!! Why keep the video up??? It's pointless now we know the trial failed. Or, why not tell us, up front, that the trial failed - instead of making us waste time trying to find the results?

@TheVigilantStewards

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this video and very much wanted to see results, I agree... best thing to do would be to take it down because there is no point without the results... Nice video though

Like to see a safety data sheet. Most likely illegally selling.

@PermacultureHomestead

9 жыл бұрын

Double Dog Farm ~ Shoestring Gardening on a KISS Principle see my posts above... people like this make me ANGRY, hes feeding off the ignorance of his subscribers to make money, con man all the way. I will be reporting him to the Michigan BBB and Dept of consumer affairs... I suggest you do the same if your serious about justice and liberty.... don't be all talk... ACT.

@scout4life19d

6 жыл бұрын

Just came across this item. I do watch the MIgardener video's. But I was curious about the follow up on the product. As for the claims on this product. I have not used it myself. But than again. After (2) years this product is still available. So not sure if Michigan's BBB also went bankrupt like the rest of the state. Or you claim to act was a hoax or there was no grounds for your claim for them to act upon. Feel free to enlighten me...

MIgardener doesnt just con you on his fertilizer. Bought seeds and two varieties of seeds were wrong. He deletes bad comments from his store seed page and wont respond to emails! All I wanted was 2 packs of the correct seeds.

@JandjacresNet

5 жыл бұрын

Shame that some people are like that.