🎉 couple quick additions. For those new to my engineered plastics series. These can also take a #8 section and a rollerball section that I make as well. Thx for the review!

@archivist17

Жыл бұрын

It's a brilliant design, Ian! 👏👏👏 [I just can't stand the yellow]

@Schon_DSGN

Жыл бұрын

@@archivist17 comes in black too :)

@stephenchung

Жыл бұрын

Where can I get one?

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Just go to his website and he's got everything listed. www.schondsgn.com/

@ethanpayne4116

Жыл бұрын

@@archivist17 The yellow has grown on me as I've gradually realized that Ultem is a very nice material. You see a lot of these otherwise unassuming amber-ish or gray colors in scientific instruments, so the knowledge that it's not just some yellow dyed acrylic makes a big difference.

My favorite engineered pen so far is the PenBBS 355. A bulk filer with a massive filling capacity, shutoff valve and a bayonet locking mechanism to keep the piston in place

I've been into the hobby a bit less than 2 years. I have about 20 pens I use for all kinds of writing and also drawing. My most expensive pen so far cost $80. I'm all in on plastic pen bodies and high quality screw on caps. I also love light pens and pens with large ink capacity. I saw Schoen's ultum at the DC pen show. Amazing! I will buy this pen BEFORE I buy my first pen with a gold nib. This pen checks all my boxes and is so gorgeous, elegant nd wonderfully engineered. I would buy this pen over a Lamy 2000 (another pen people laud for its engineering) every time.

+1 for Schon Design Pocket Six. One of my everyday carry pens. I'll admit I was cold to the ultem material at first, but after learning more about it, it's grown on me a little.

Great review! I just got one and I love it! It's become one of my favorite pens.

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Oh good to hear you're enjoying it 👍

Very good review. I have been interested with these pens. For a while. Schon pens is located close to where I live and have met the owner a few times at pen shows. He does his own work and yes, they are very much a very engineered pen. I just have to bite the bullet and get one of his models. He started with aluminum models that are fabulous. Have tested them and they tend to be a bit thin for my taste, but the quality is spot on.

Way to go Engineers! Great engineering 👍 👏watch solvents on the O rings.

Oh no.... Now I have a new dream pen! I just love these pocket pens. I've been eyeing the green patina copper pen they made. But this one is now calling my name, especially with the ink to match :-)

Brilliant vid Doodle Bud. I’ve got the ultem Gravitas yet to ink it up. Not too expensive not a pocket pen, /but at least I appreciate the benefits of the material now. The Good Blue are also doing one. Thank you D

This looks like a much higher end version of the Moonman Wancai Mini Fountain Pen, of which I have 2 because I love it so much! Perfect eye dropper EDC pen with interchangeable nib!

One of the best print beds I had for my 3-D printer was a PEI bed and I absolutely loved that bed, until I discovered G10

I love eye dropper pens for their ink capacity, but unless there is a valve that shunts the flow, I always get burping because of my generally warm hands. Really do dig the thin body section because of the particular polymer of interest though. It was incredibly satisfying to see proper O-ring gland design! 😁👍

@rcbuggies57

Жыл бұрын

I am always worried about this. I want Ian to make a Japanese eyedropper not only because of this, but also because that machining in ultem would be sick as hell.

@Kenjiro5775

Жыл бұрын

@@rcbuggies57 Yes, exactly! 👍

My introduction to Ultem was Jazz III guitar picks, which just happen to be my favorite.

@McAmeron089III

Жыл бұрын

Yep. I have a bunch of guitar and mandoln picks made out of Ultem. Same color too.

A century of thin and short pocket pens with little nibs, then all of a sudden we get three nice big ones with #6 nibs all at the same time. Funny how that goes sometimes.

I like Schon’s work. His pens are great. Gravitas has a full sized Ultem for only $99 with an anodized SS section. Ben’s version is just as amazing.

@evi4128

Жыл бұрын

I had both. The Schon Ultem is far superior. Ended up selling my Gravitas Ultem and bought the Schon Dsgn full size ultem pen. It's a work of art. The gravitas is still an awesome pen.

@evi4128

Жыл бұрын

The threads are perfect, the o rings give it a amazing snug feel. The walls on the Schon dsgn are so thin and the pen is light as a feather. I have the bock attachment and also the roller ball attachment. I’m seriously considering buying another. Also if I ever have a problem with the nib it’s easily replaced. I expect to have the pen for the rest of my life. Can’t say enough about how amazing the pen is. It’s flawless. And I love cleaning this pen.

@cynthiaalvarado8610

Жыл бұрын

@@evi4128 I have both as well. I found that the Schon section fits on my Gravitas body so I can use the #8 Bock section on it! I personally prefer the body of the Gravitas better because it posts deeper and is much better balanced. It’s down to personal preference and both pen makers are extraordinary and talented!!

@marilyngardner4269

Жыл бұрын

You will get much better customer service from Schon Dsgn than from Gravitas if there is ever a problem or issue. Trust me on this.

@benwalsh9257

Жыл бұрын

@Marilyn Gardner After our last conversation, I thought we cleared the air. I still get word the odd time of these comments being left by you. After our last exchange, I figured this might stop. I was honest and open with you, and yet, you're still defaming me.

Oh my god!!!...that rattlesnake pen holder is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen!! I need that so bad you have no idea...for a person who specializes in working with reptiles and loves pens!!!!

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Info is in the desctiption along with the discount code they gave me to pass on. An extra 15% off :) I will chat about it more in my next video

@technoraptor7778

Жыл бұрын

I checked it out right away!! If I was ever to have a pen holder...it would be this!!

While I only have one Schon pen (Pocket Six, in aluminum), it is similarly flawless!

regarding O-rings and body fillers, I much prefer the way PenBBS is doing it, where the o-ring has its own groove BEFORE the threads and not after them, that way you seal the body AND leave the threads dry.

The chemicals/plastics compatibility table is really useful, but what are the relevant plastics for most pens? I guess most fountain pens are acetal? I think Lamy Safaris are ABS. I also have cellulose acetate pens (Pilot and Pelikan), which I guess are also acetal? I also certainly have polycarbonate. We need a pen brand vs material table.

Now if you collaborated with Schon, then you would have the DoodleSchon fountain pen.

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a new dog breed. Poodle X Bichon Frise = DoodleSchon

I really hope there’s a market for a pocket pen for $240. His work appears solid. too bad it’s $100 more than I would afford

Thank you for another great in-depth, covering-all-the-bases-and-then-some video! I don't own a SchonDSGN pen yet but i have seen a couple at our pen club meetings and was impressed by the build quality. Christmas is coming up, so it might be time for a self-gift soon lol

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

He really gets into the finer details with his pens and nothing gets missed

Looks well made. Shame the natural color of ultem plastic is urine yellow. Would likely go for the black color if I ever got this. Or maybe if there is more demand for ultem in pens in general different colors become available. Although at the current price that might take a while.

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Great video! But just one thing, the twsbi grease is for lubricating and not sealing! You wanna use a thicker grease for eye dropper sealing. It should not be a problem for schon dsgn pens since they has o-rings everywhere but for eye dropper convertions it risks leaking.

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

The orings provide the seal on this pen far better than any grease would. The grease is only needed to extended the life of the orings. Still seals without the grease

I recently found your channel and love the content. What type of enginner are you? I'm an electrical engineer that loves using fountain pens for my everyday notes.

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

I studied computer hardware engineering but all my work was to do with precision laser equipment. So lots of mechanical, electrical, optics, computer, manufacturing, R&D, test, etc.

it seems cool but i think ill stick with my muji pen, now if that was shorter...

How about leaking if it warms up. Important for a pocket pen.

I'm mostly into ventage pens,. I've been repairing my own pens for over 10 years and just ecently purchased a Montblanc Meisterstuc 144 that I'm going to have to repllace the cork seal on. But this new pen has piqued my intrest, such a simple design and well engineered. What impresed me the most is all the sealing points/leaking pionts are fitted with what looks like high quility orings. Great Job on the design and executiong Ean, I'll have to put one on my list to look at further, the first Modern pen I'm seriously considering! One question Can this be fitted the jowo Flex nib?

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Im not 100% sure on the flex nib question. I imagine it fits the regular Jowo housing, it will work in this as well. Ian is pretty good at answering questions. So either reach out to him on his website or Instagram

It would have been nice to have the interior polished. Maybe take micro mesh to it. -addendum: I checked out the website and sorry to say they are not my cup of tea. I’ll stick with my Pilot and Platinum pocket pens. I would also ask if anyone has looked into reviving the Newton pen?

Great review, great pen, wish I could afford it. For the money I'd rather have two Sailor Pro Gear Minis with gold nibs. Papa don't need no space-age plastic.

Doodlebud, you are the Mr. Wizard and Engineering Whisperer of the fountain pen space, and I appreciate it so much. I have one pocket pen, the brass Kaweco Sport, and I think that I need the heft of the brass to compensate for the size. What the heck is that all about? Sounds like a me problem!😂Thanks for giving me other features beyond aesthetics, materials and function to consider. Anyway, that’s a dead wicked pen rest, and thank you again. 🎃

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy my approach to my vids. These are the things I look at and think about when I put a pen in my hand.

These pens make me wish I had a need for them, they're that good. But I don't travel with pens, I don't take pens outside of my home for work or any other reason, so I just don't need an indestructible pen, I don't even really need a pocket pen (although I have had an aluminum Pocket 6 for 3 years now). They write fine, but probably not better than any other modern pen with a Jowo #6 nib. Sorry Ian.

I had this idea of making a pen out of polycarbonate because it is really tough and looks cool, but the material sheet you provided kinda ruined it. The stuff reacts with almost anything!

I’m curious, how do you tell a good quality o-ring from a bad one? Any brands or materials you recommend when looking for replacement?

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

There are a bunch of different orings with different materials and durometer ratings (hardness) depending on the application. Here's a link for some quick reading to give some general info. www.thomasnet.com/articles/hardware/o-rings-material-makeup/

their Monoc is inching its way into my “grail” spot.

@Doodlebud

10 ай бұрын

Cool looking nib for sure

Engineers, pppfftt. What have they ever done?😄 Another interesting video.

A PEI pen for the PEIEIPIs

In your professional experience, what would you estimate the lifespan of these O-ring seals to be given the owner of the pen gave them the same treatment and care you display in the video?

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

I would expect them to last a very long time. Really not much wear & tear

@anonymousmoose3155

Жыл бұрын

@@Doodlebud Thank you! It seems like this pen really has no mechanical/material point of weakness like a lot of others do.

Are you going to review his newly engineered nib?

@Doodlebud

3 ай бұрын

If I get my hands on one I will

I have succumbed to Ultem fountain pen fad myself but the more I think about it, the more pointless it seems. Fountain pen is wrong application for Ultem. All the benefits of Ultem, high thermal and chemical resistance are irrelevant for a fountain pen, so you are left only with disadvantages like brittleness. So for a fountain pen, ABS plastic is far superior material to Ultem. Unless you are using your pen in high temperature hot steam environment. Then Ultem pen May be handy.

Lovely pen! By any chance were you able to attend the Scriptus pen show in Toronto, today?

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

No other side of the country for me. Have yet to attend a pen show

@seanferguson5460

Жыл бұрын

@@Doodlebud It's so much fun being surrounded by one's people: pen nerds! I came home with quite the score.

@ironmic9244

Жыл бұрын

@@seanferguson5460 I just wish it was longer, and for 2 days. Ending at 4pm put a serious time crunch for me. What did you get? I just got a 48 pen case by Girologio. $84 with tax, good price considering they sell for $US89. I didn't find what I was on the hunt for though, OMAS 360.

@seanferguson5460

Жыл бұрын

@@ironmic9244 Hi Mic! My agenda was modest. I wanted a vintage Schaeffer. Nothing special. Just a good ole workhorse and I found one for $25 at the vendor just inside, to the right of the entrance. I was also looking for a local shop that could help with some of my minor pen maintenance needs and the consensus, no surprise, was Laywine's. I picked up a small bottle of mango coloured ink by Troublemaker, which looked interesting, but my big score was winning one of the raffle prizes: two beautiful vintage Parker pens. I went looking for an everyday pen and now I have three new ones! Congrats on the Girologio. Looked up the OMAS. Beautiful. Next time. The hunt is everything.

@ironmic9244

Жыл бұрын

@@seanferguson5460 I tip my hat to you sir for winning the raffle. I headed over to Laywine's after the show to chat a bit. Haven't been there for what seems like years. Are you new to Toronto? There is another shop; Wonderpens in Little Italy, and there is a smaller shop around The Junction; Take Note. Laywine's is the first place I go with a problem. I have a couple of 360s. Only pen that I have multiple models of. Want to get one in every nib size, but they are harder and harder to come by.

Make it a quad with engineer in the comments 😂

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Calculating..... 🤓

Hey DB. Thanks again for your engineering perspective. I know that Ian has been very successful with his pens. I congratulate him for his success. Personally, not for me..too small & $expensive$... I know he runs a small 1 man shop, and is not, for example, Lamy who have hundreds of employees and machines. Cost to machine has to be integrated.

Yeah but that color is ugly af and the design is too

@Doodlebud

Жыл бұрын

Some people love the looks of some pens while others don't. Its all personal preference