If I remember the book properly, this British officer was actually just a sightseer who went to observe the Civil War out of professional curiosity. So he showed up at Gettysburg in his redcoat uniform and simply let Lee and the other Confederate generals assume that he was an official envoy from Queen Victoria's court, without outright lying about it.

@theanimalguy7

9 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure he just wore civilian clothes The only reason the film gave him a red uniform is so that we know who Fremantle is

@williamanderson3185

7 ай бұрын

He was an adventurer, on leave from the Army. i think he was a at least a colonel. Quite a colorful guy.

@gonzaleo

5 ай бұрын

In the book, as well, Longstreet didn't want to discuss too much military info with him just in case they would have to fight the English again.

@Daniel-mw2lf

4 ай бұрын

Harry flashman no doubt

@user-sw8ni6gh9b

4 ай бұрын

Yes, that can be right...

The execution of those lines, “different dreams”... perfect.

2:00 “You English had your own civil war, didn’t you?” Read “Cousins’ Wars” by Kevin Philipps. Outstanding work. The American Civil War was, in many ways, a continuation of that old conflict between Royalists and Parliamentarians. The parallels are remarkably shocking. It is no mere accident that many of the periodicals as well as ballads and poems referred to Southerners as “Cavaliers” and Yankees as “Roundheads”. Even the great General Robert E. Lee is often affectionately called the “Last Cavalier”.

@evansmith3589

7 ай бұрын

Confederates reminded British artist Frank Vizetelly of cavaliers.

@babababad

Ай бұрын

That is part of a larger Southern myth by which they portray themselves as the natural heirs of European aristocracy, inherently superior to both Northerners and Negroes. In reality, this was a sort of national nostalgia that, although not based in fact, nevertheless influenced antebellum Southern honor culture and has been a major theme of Lost Cause propaganda.

@mikeyd7749

28 күн бұрын

My 8th Great Grandfather was Major General Robert Overton. He was under Oliver Cromwell. He had a 1st wife named Anna Gardiner who was from a wealthy family. His 2nd wife (or maybe mistress) was Hannah Elton. When Gen. Robert Overton was sent to the Tower of London during the English Civil war, he sent Hannah and their son David (age 14) to Suffolk Co., Long Island, NY along with Hannah's brother (David's Uncle). The Overtons have lived on Long Island for generations.

i did do some research on George Meade he actually was born in Spain then he moved to United States going to West Point

@markcorbett3807

Жыл бұрын

His father was a wealthy merchant named a U.S. Naval agent to Spain.

This year marks the 160th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg. I just might use some vacation time to go visit the National Battlefield and meet the cast who are gathering for the anniversary of the battle and the film.

@andrewstravels2096

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been there 3 times, you’ll like it.

@Original-Juice

Жыл бұрын

I'm going in early June. I live less than 2 hours North of Gettysburg and I haven't been there since i was in High School for a field trip (44 yrs old now). I feel ashamed of that too! It's absolutely oustanding and from what I remember the Battlefield Park Rangers /Tour Guides are spot on with their attention to detail. Please consider going it is something every American should experience. Enjoy

@SlyEphex

Жыл бұрын

Make sure to check out the dobbin house tavern when you go to Gettysburg. Crab cake sandwiches and decent drinks...

@JohnYoga

3 ай бұрын

@@Original-Juice They are.

Don't mind me, just watching a classic clip. Take care, and all the best.

You British had your own civil war…didn’t you? Hell….us Brits have had MANY civil wars lol

@williamclifford4441

Ай бұрын

We had two in England!

@TheMrPeteChannel

25 күн бұрын

Wasn't the Glourious Revolution more of a civil war too? As was the Jacobbite Rebellion?

Both North and South of course had their own government and institutions at the top, and both had their states that contributed something unique to the country as a whole, its own identity. As mentioned in this clip, there were Virginia Gentlemen fighting alongside Texas Frontiersmen. Each state raised up its volunteer regiments and they often had banners that were represented of their individual states. I’m not quite sure about Meade’s Army, but Lee’s Army had at least 1 regiment from each of the 11 Confederate States, courtesy of 1 regiment from Arkansas. There were even brigades that were made up of regiments that were raised from individual states or regions, including the Union Iron Brigade, which was recruited from the Midwest or “Western States” and Hood’s Texas Brigade, each bringing their own unique flavor to the armies. State individuality existed during and before the Civil War more so than it does now. Most people considered themselves more loyal to their states than to the nation as a whole. That concept mostly died with the Civil War.

@mr.knoll-it-all1564

Жыл бұрын

Before the civil war it was grammatically correct to say “the United States are a great place to live” after the civil war is is grammatically correct to say “the United States IS a great place to live” Let that sink in The federal government took a much larger role during and after the civil war, and federal nationalism became the identity replacing state nationalism

@theanimalguy7

8 ай бұрын

Meade might have had regiments from each state in the MidWest & New England, but definitely not California. They attempted to solve this by having a guy make a California Brigade for the Potomac(All of the soldiers were from Pennsylvania) but it was renamed to the Philidelphia Brigade following the death of their commander. Trivia: The Philidelphia Brigade was the one to be at the Angle during Pickett’s Charge.

@TheMrPeteChannel

25 күн бұрын

Before the war people said "These United States. After the war These was replaced by The.

I like how Fremantle does this monologue about Americans being transplanted Englishmen as if it’s some deep philosophical insight. When in reality, this happened within living memory of the American revolution. There weren’t many left, but there were a few folks still kicking around old enough to remember 1776 at this point

@lufsolitaire5351

3 ай бұрын

As well as some interesting little-known history, with Longstreet pointing out his family came from Dutch planters who were in North America long before the English. Back when New York was still called New Amsterdam. They’d migrated southwards from New York to South Carolina where Longstreet was from.

3:16 His description perfectly matches Stonewall Jackson

Starting at 3:53 Longstreet is telling Fremantle what his strategy as opposed to Lee’s strategy.

Britishman with a fancy accent, tea, redcoat, mustache, and calling Americans Englishmen still 😭

@williamclifford4441

Ай бұрын

Believe me the real Colonel Fremantle would not have walked around looking and behaving like a total prat! You don't get to be a Colonel in the Guards by being an air head as portrayed in the film! Grrrr.

@RebelKing00

Ай бұрын

Their ancestors were English mostly. But Longstreet also had Dutch ancestry

Freemantle should have been in the cover of Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.

@musicaleuphoria8699

2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't be surprised if Sgt Pepper was his NCO.😅

Interesting enough, except for his paternal paternal side, Longstreet had a lot more English ancestry. His paternal side was Dutch.

The brit is just one "absolute shower" away from playing the role as if he's Terry Thomas

Just makes me wish the Flashman Papers for the American Civil War had been written.

Gotta have a cup of tea,hey what!

"It's over, Anakin. I have the high ground."

The Brit’s comment on trenches made me wonder if in lore he would have been in the Crimea which was only 7 years before Gettysburg and how that war was defined by both trenches and complete and utter chaos caused by some of the most incompetent generals in history who were totally unprepared for the war and then only a year later from Gettysburg, Lee’s Army would be throwing up trenches like there was no tomorrow and made Grant suffer enormous casualties until Grant bottled him up in Petersburg

Conveniently he left out Beauregard, Buell, Mclaws, Von Steinwehr, Kilpatrick etc. to fit his nonsense about transplanted Englishmen.

@raymondlee3414

Ай бұрын

Don't forget Gen Pat Clebourne and Gen Stand Watie.

@RebelKing00

Ай бұрын

Half of those were immigrants

@RebelKing00

Ай бұрын

Most of the generals he listed including Longstreet had English ancestry. Though the Longstreet side of his family was Dutch.

2:44 The most poignant line in the movie, and yet still to this very day the Lost Cause adherents would argue the Civil War (or the rather windingly named War of The Northern Aggression, which has an appeal to pathos quality) is anything but.

@southron2279

2 ай бұрын

The lost cause is very much not dead mostly because yankees aren't necessarily the same people as southerners if the south ever unites under common cause again you will not won the next civil war

@southron2279

2 ай бұрын

Confederate views on emancipation of the slaves is not that simple many Confederates were also staunch abolitionist or unionists, and multiple Confederate generals were saying at the time that confed congress should free the slaves unfortunately most of the big slave owners were politicians in congress not foot soldiers

@CaptainTrips560

2 ай бұрын

@@southron2279there were confederates who supported abolition, but they were an extreme minority

@Xer405

Ай бұрын

​@@CaptainTrips560 Ehh closer than you think. Large scale slave owners held all the influence over most who couldn't even afford slaves. Only reason slavery was economicaly viable again was the cotton gin. So only the rich and government were really profiting not anyone lesser.

@CaptainTrips560

Ай бұрын

@@Xer405 even amongst the non-slave owning confederates, abolition was not popular. It’s like how only a handful of Americans are billionaires, but the vast majority of Americans still support capitalism, a system that creates and enables billionaires. (This is not a commentary on the morality of capitalism one way or the other. I’m illustrating how poor white southerners still supported the slavery system even though they had nothing to gain from it)

Different dreams different dreams so very sad very sad.

1:40 believe it or not but this is exactly what John Adams told King George III after the American Revolution when he was sent as an ambassador to Great Britain

The Americans having a CIVIL WAR The Brits: Here's our chance to invade them again Lads.

@Ragnar6000

2 ай бұрын

not by the 1860's even the military power of the North would knock out anything the Brits would have sent!.....they would have got there asses handed to em!

@M.R.BrickFilms

23 күн бұрын

They fought again in the war of 1812, nearly started a war in the pig war, and let’s not forget the Trent Affair

This always reminds me of a Monty Python sketch

As an Englishman this makes me cringe

@thekhoifish0146

Жыл бұрын

Can’t blame you

@saudade2100

Жыл бұрын

Same here, and I'm a Yank. My apologies. I believe the British officer would have been Arthur Fremantle. He was a serious military man from a military family. Like most British I have ever read about, who traveled through America, he was disgusted by slavery. Not that I want to give the British, or Europeans, a complete pass on the matter. The Africans did not swim to America, they were brought to America by loyal subjects of the crowned heads of Europe, centuries before the American Revolution. And only a tiny fraction were brought to North America, the vast majority were brought to the Caribbean and to Brazil. Fremantle, like many British, wanted to be indifferent to which side won, but tended to favor the North over slavery. Albert Edward, Prince of Wales, traveled through North America, similarly horrified by slavery. Best part of the tour is the legend of when he visited Chicago, and the Mayor of Chicago introduced him the Chicago Board of Aldermen. "Boys, this is the Prince. Prince, meet the boys." Who knows if it's true, it's the legend.

@alphalunamare

Жыл бұрын

I was tickled by how similar to a friend of mine the Englishman is. :-)

@Smog104

Жыл бұрын

Yes the Toffee nose is cringeworthy

@alittlebitofhistory

Жыл бұрын

tbh it is kind of funny when you realise that Fremantle had pretty much BSed his way into this situation, was on leave from the army and had no power what so ever to help in anyway.

Tragically, he was sooooo right on the question of Slavery question!! If the South had Emancipated their Slaves, England, France, and Perhaps Spain would most Definitely had Granted Recognition of the Confederacy and would have came into the War on her Side to Split America into 2 Pieces to Weaken her!!

@williamclifford4441

Ай бұрын

We had no interest in 'coming in' on anybody's side. The mistake the South made was to believe that its Cotton was vital to the British economy whereas, in fact, Britain had been stockpiling the stuff for a very long time. As well, we were growing it in the West Indies (Think Sea Island cotton) as well as in Africa and the far east. We didn't need the South's Cotton.

@soybasedjeremy3653

Ай бұрын

Not really, Britain wanted to be allied to America. As they say now, they where trolling. They didn't want another war with America. Plus cotton was cheaper in India than it was in the American South.

@Asko83

Ай бұрын

If any Confederate leader had even suggested freeing the slaves, their states would have seceded from the CSA to form yet another rebellion. Slavery was what bound them together and the cause for their rebellion. There was no other binding cause that could have riled up enough supporters for a rebellion.

I still don't understand how your channel doesn't get Copyright Strikes and Claims from all these clips from movies. I did a review of Glory 1989 and edited the best i could and still got claims on my video. Johnny, please do me a kindness and tell me how you avoid all the copyright strikes because as much as i edit, it seems KZread will come after my videos and they won't be promoted if I talk about movies and TV shows

@JohnnysWarStories

Жыл бұрын

Well on this channels they are all claimed. Otherwise, when I do reviews, I try never to use more than 15 seconds of footage in a row and make sure it's 95% narrated.

@samsonvlogging1202

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnysWarStories Thank you. I gotta remember that "never to use more than 15 seconds of footage in a row and make sure it's 95% narrated." Thats where I keep making mistakes with my review videos is including too much footage and then KZread claims the video and "buries" it.

@JohnnysWarStories

Жыл бұрын

Good luck though. Sometimes my genuine reviews still get flagged and I gotta go through the appeal process or edit and re upload. Such is you-tube life.

Lee was an excellent tactitian but a poor strategist, and after moving into Pennsylavania had no idea what to do

@samsmith2635

2 ай бұрын

Lack of JEB Stuarts Calvary to be the eyes of Lee's Army was why that is the case

@raymondlee3414

Ай бұрын

@@samsmith2635 Yes, and it was Gen Lee who sent Stuart off on some tasks because Gettysburg wasn't a planned battle at all. Then Lee blamed Stuart. Furthermore, Lee had other Cavalry with him he could have used. He also had Gen. Imboden's dragoons at Gettysburg.

Longstreet’s paternal paternal side was only Dutch. He was English on the rest of his ancestry

","Dictatorship naturally arises out of Democracy, and the most aggravated form of Tyranny and Slavery out of the most Extreme Liberty. PLATO"." - St. HMAJW."

Freemantle says something very interesting when he asked about their own Civil War once. He basically laughs at it and says “we would never dream of it now”. That is in reference of how the modern world at the time were appalled that a civilized nation was at war with eachother over slavery. And long term this is a shot at how civil war shouldn’t be celebrated or glorified. You know how many monuments commemorate the English Civil War? 2….

Itd done him some good to dust up on his Thomas Sowell beforehand. Absolutely NOT the same cultures. Very distinct....I won't get into it but Sowell's research into this is quite fascinating and explains so much....but that's definitely a nope to the same cultures part. It's one of the primary reasons why the south was so far behind economically and socially....again, Sowell for reference.

0:58 "....Virginia gentlemen fighting alongside Texa frontiersmen......" In reality, were the upper classes of the South (read - slave owners) actually doing any fighting?

@markcorbett3807

Жыл бұрын

Another Rich man’s war, but a Poor Man’s Fight.

@jonathanweaver5310

Жыл бұрын

The sons of plantation owners fought, yes. And that phrase reflect the more...cultured aspect of Virginia whilst Texas was still very much the untamed frontier

@dab0331

6 ай бұрын

In the sense of being officers, yes. Not in the getting dirty in the mud sense

@JS-wp4gs

2 ай бұрын

@@dab0331 Considering how many confederate generals were killed or wounded during the war i'm calling bs on that one. Hell, forrest himself enlisted as a private originally and was by no means the only one

"The KING should not interrupt into the Lives of the Citizens He represents to the HEAVENS to include Himself into a NEW translation of the BIBLE!!!" - St. HMAJW."

Whooped the British twice ????? Nah 1-1

@bobgall6764

Жыл бұрын

Nope....1-0-1

@TheIceman567

Жыл бұрын

@@bobgall6764facts

@flatearthisahoax4030

8 ай бұрын

The War of 1812 was a stalemate

@dab0331

6 ай бұрын

​@@flatearthisahoax4030​A stalemate is a victory for a fledgling nation that didn't have the naval power, history, and funding the British had with its vast empire in Africa and India. Especially when British were trying to return the branch to the tree.

@Master-Mirror

5 ай бұрын

​@@dab0331 The British had no real intention of reconquering the United States. The Americans did however intend to conquer Canada while Britain was distracted by Napoleon over in Europe. If they were an unprepared fledgling republic when they came up with that idea, more fool them, because they got trounced. I'll agree the war was a stalemate, but one the British wanted. Remember the British defeat at New Orleans happened while peace discussions were already underway.

Twice? Imagine trying to claim the war of 1812 as a victory. A draw at best, a British victory at worse. After all America's aim in the war was to conquer Canada, Britain's aim to defend that it. War ended with Canada free of American occupation. It's clear whose war aim was achieved.

@jamalwilburn228

Жыл бұрын

No, the original intents of the war were for the British to see the United States as a nation and to stop impeding the US in its goals of expansion. The US succeeded in what it intended to do

@jamalwilburn228

Жыл бұрын

Invading Canada was never the main goal. It was a side quest.

@timothyhouse1622

Жыл бұрын

Also, the most famous battle of the war happened AFTER the war had ended. Oh, and the British burned down Washington DC.

@PotatoSalad614

Жыл бұрын

​@@jamalwilburn228 The War of 1812 was a national humiliation for the US. They failed in their major war aims, had their capital burnt, Navy destroyed, and economy bankrupt. The British however, achieved their war aims of keeping Canada, then British North America since it was a defensive war, kept their maritime belligerent rights, all while fighting with one arm behind their back since they were fighting arguably the greatest general in history in Napoleon on the continent at the same time. It was those maritime belligerent rights that allowed Britain to have its imperial century. Jefferson famously said the war would be a "mere matter of marching" and that Canadians would welcome them as liberators, only to get battered by the local militia without even the full support of British regulars. They wanted more land for more slaves, and after losing the war went on to invade Spanish Florida for the same reasons. Impressment continued after the war, a key US war aim that they also failed at. After Napoleon was defeated Britain sent better ships, with better captains, who wholly demonstrated Britain's prowess by blockading the entire east US coast and defeating the US capital ships (the ones that came out to play anyway ;D) HMS Shannon taking the Chesapeake in what is dubbed the bloodiest battle in the Age of Sail. Another important note, New Orleans was a disaster for the British, though irrelevant to the outcome since Britain signed the treaty at Ghent before the battle had happened, and had already won, but it's important to note that New Orleans is the battle the US stop teaching at, pretending they ended the war on a win. In reality, the British licked their wounds and went on to Fort Bowyer, winning the battle and preparing to propel themselves onto Mobile, Alabama. That is when they heard news of the treaty, from a position of even more power than before. In every single major aspect, the British dominated the war and defeated the US, it took decades of propaganda to change the view from "Madison's war" to a "draw" by painting it as some nonsensical second war of Independence.

@TheIceman567

Жыл бұрын

@@PotatoSalad614 what are you smoking? Invading Washington doesn’t mean the US quits. This isn’t Stratego. It was the same thought when the US invaded Canada and occupied York…strategically unimportant. Kingston was more important as was Baltimore in the Chesapeake Campaign (Washington occupied). And the British failed in their attempt to take Baltimore. I guess the Americans didn’t run that day. Oh by the way…the British General staff that cowardly ran at York was thought of as traitors by the locals. Military cowardice ‘par excellence’. Read about it. Or am I not permitted to discuss that because it was British cowardice? Navy destroyed? The US navy won the majority of battles.. list of victories 13 Aug 1812 capture of the Alert 19 Aug 1812 capture of the Guerriere 18 Oct 1812 capture of the Frolic 25 Oct 1812 capture of the Macedonian 29 Dec 1812 capture of the Java 24 Feb 1813 sinking of the Peacock 5 Aug 1813 capture of the Dominica 5 Sept 1813 capture of the Boxer 28 Apr 1814 capture of the Epervier 28 Jun 1814 sinking of the Reindeer 1 Sept 1814 sinking of the Avon 20 Feb 1815 capture of the Levant 20 Feb 1815 capture of the Cyane 23 Mar 1815 capture of the Penguin 11 Dec 1812 capture of the Rachel 25 Mar 1813 privateer Nereyda captured On the other hand, Wade G. Dudley in Splintering the Wooden Wall: The British Blockade of the United States, 1812-1815 attempted to establish that the blockade was quite ineffective in punishing the United States, pointing out areas where it was weakest, such as in the South and on the Gulf Coast. He remarked that, in 1814, ‘the country as a whole was quite self-sufficient - no one starved, and the implements of war continued to be produced - its government had little money, thanks to the tremendous expenses associate with warfare, Madison's embargo, and the blockade’. But, paradoxically, this was a time of resurgence and renewal for the American military, who performed well in campaigns at Niagara and at Plattsburg, maintained control of Lake Erie, stood firm on Lake Ontario, and won a crucial battle on Lake Champlain. Despite British amphibious attacks on the shores of Chesapeake Bay, the burning of Washington and the ransoming of Alexandria, Baltimore's naval and militia defenders repulsed the British who withdrew quickly from the Chesapeake to shift their attention to New Orleans. The one major element you’re not seriously accounted for is American privateering enterprise, which was successful in both naval and financial terms, despite the blockade. Privateer owners were an interesting blend of profit-minded entrepreneurs and patriotic sea warriors. To license and hold them accountable, the government issued 517 commissions for privateer and letter of marque vessels, which captured 1,345 British prizes and inflicted an estimated $45.5 million in damage on the British merchant fleet. The privateers sallied forth from Massachusetts, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Virginia, Louisiana, and Georgia. Indeed, many of the sailors who formerly had manned trading vessels signed on as privateersmen in major ports from Portsmouth to New Orleans. The large numbers of these swift-sailing, highly maneuverable schooners and brigs which slipped through the blockade, were a continuing irritation to the blockade commanders as they harried British convoys from the West Indies and took the war even to the chops of the Channel. The balances the losses to privateers and American naval vessels by pointing out that the United States lost 1,407 merchantmen to the Royal Navy. But by this comparison, American privateers did fairly well. Even British PM Liverpool expressed his confusion as to their motives; “I confess I cannot believe that with the prospect of bankruptcy before them, the American government would not wish to make peace, if they can make it upon terms that would not give a triumph to their enemies [the Federalists].” Also, As for the economy, it was due to not having a national bank and the embargo act of 1813, With the onset of war, existing embargoes expired and Congress issued a new Embargo act in 1813. On December 17, 1813 President James Madison signed the Embargo Act of 1813 into law. This added four new restrictions to the existing embargoes. All American ships and good were prohibited from leaving port. All commodities customarily produced in the British Empire were banned. All foreign ships trading in American ports were not allowed to trade unless 75% of the crew were citizens of the ship's flag. No Ransoming of ships was allowed. In addition, at least 3,000 American slaves escaped to British lines. Many other slaves simply escaped in the chaos of war and achieved freedom on their own. The British settled some of the newly freed slaves in Nova Scotia. Four hundred freedmen were settled in New Brunswick. The Americans protested that Britain's failure to return the slaves violated the Treaty of Ghent. After arbitration by the Tsar of Russia the British paid $1,204,960 in damages to Washington, to reimburse the slave owners. In the United States, the economy grew every year from 1812 to 1815, despite a large loss of business by East Coast shipping interests. Prices were 15% higher-inflated-in 1815 compared to 1812, an annual rate of 4.8%. The national economy grew 1812-1815 at 3.7% a year, after accounting for inflation. Per capita GDP grew at 2.2% a year, after accounting for inflation. Hundreds of new banks were opened; they largely handled the loans that financed the war since tax revenues were down. Money that would have been spent on foreign trade was diverted to opening new factories, which were profitable since British factory-made products were not for sale. This gave a major boost to the Industrial Revolution in the United States as typified by the Boston Associates. The Boston Manufacturing Company, built the first integrated spinning and weaving factory in the world at Waltham, Massachusetts in 1813. And thrown out of Canada where? Even from the Canadian documentary called “The war of 1812 a desert between us and theml” Literally states after the Battle of Longwoods in 1814 the British gave up in trying to push the Americans out of Canada because it was “Unwinnable.”… kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWtsxMaGpJSvYMap.htmlven your British native alliance was defeated in Canada and the USA even won the last battle fought in Canada at Cooks mills. Please study.

English fellow gave Lee too much credit. Lee was in reality a mediocre Strategist but a Great Tactician making him a fairly good Army Commander at best. His ability to read his opponents helped in the beginning against the Unions mediocre Army Commanders. Luck, Northern Incompetence, and knowledge of the Terrain lead to early southern Victories but when faced with competent opposition such as Grant, Sherman, Meade and a few others who used the unions advantages the Confederates lost.

they really over did it with the doofy english character...all he needed was some fked up teeth

"Experiencing Our Bio-Sphere as HUMANKIND We are The Nose, Ears, & Eyes of OUR Lord." - St. HMAJW."

Englishman with a cup of tea on battlefield. No clichee at all. Monty Python shows war more realisticlly. Just the tiger in America is missing