Fun fact: the G1 episode "Make Tracks" also has Megatron create an endless army of mindless car drones, just over a decade before Beast Machines!

@originaluddite

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering whether the 'watchdogs' in The Ultimate Doom are primeval Vehicons, but we never see them transform. Also, TFWiki suggests that they could be native alt-modes for the likes of Reflector...

@chrisedwards3214

Жыл бұрын

Megatron had drines when he was Cybertron in war dawn

@matthewreynoso6904

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisedwards3214Yes! You’re right!

@robrice7246

9 ай бұрын

@@matthewreynoso6904 And in Beast Wars: Uprising, they were retroactively named Dropkicks (after the 2007 Movieverse character).

@thegreygoblin5165

6 ай бұрын

Nice

The Vehicon Generals, Obsidian and Strika especially, need new toys more than most

@GladDestronger

Жыл бұрын

New and BETTER toys no less.

@ronnycsiregar3262

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jonryder7269

Жыл бұрын

Beast Machine Strika and Obsidian Leader and Voyager class with Prime vehicons to boss around would be so perfect for Legacy

@KodyCrimson

Жыл бұрын

Obsidian just needs to appear again outside of comics, period. Strika got to be in both Animated and Cyberverse.

@JadStaAna

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

Never knew of the Steve joke, but still laugh at Megatron throwing the ground based vehicon from this ships landing deck.

So basically, the Prime vehicons are just Transformers' equivalent to a combination of Star Wars' B1 Battle droids and the Republic's clone troopers. Edit: thanks for pointing it out.

@braydengill9495

Жыл бұрын

I made this comparison, and it made me laugh.

@minimalbstolerance8113

Жыл бұрын

Roger Roger.

@DonaldWWitt

Жыл бұрын

@@minimalbstolerance8113 Roger Roger!

@MetalSonicReject

Жыл бұрын

@@DonaldWWitt Steve Steve!

@Burning-Twilight

Жыл бұрын

That makes so much sense I can't believe I never made the comparison before. The majority of times incompetence, the humor in many of their deaths, and the brief moments of sapience that some show.

Another nice bit about the Vehicons is that now animators have an easier time with them since they all have the same design and can just copy and paste them without having to recolor (if necessary)

@matthewreynoso6904

Жыл бұрын

That’s true! Another thing that makes the Prime versions awesome!

@joshuaromerogonzalez945

Жыл бұрын

A fancy way of saying using generics for the sake of filling out the enemy ranks, or to make up for the small cast in a show

@matthewreynoso6904

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuaromerogonzalez945 Hey you and I both have an Optimus Prime based profile picture!

@clownplayer7265

Жыл бұрын

Kinda like the seekers.

@ksanbahlyngwa1998

Ай бұрын

Yea it's like picking Freeza over Cell

Steve will always be iconic, but also Jetstorm is pretty cool.

"Now, Waspinator cool biker bot."

@robrice7246

Жыл бұрын

"Hardly ever get blown up and..."

@awesomeproductions7755

Жыл бұрын

“Mmm… chick-bots _diiiiiig_ brooding loner bit!”

@GoGojiraGo

2 ай бұрын

@@awesomeproductions7755 "You mean I risked my life for this... this.. SCRAP HEAP?! EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!"

@reubenguttenberg7405

Ай бұрын

​@@GoGojiraGo that means spiderbot not go steady with waspinator?

@GoGojiraGo

Ай бұрын

@@reubenguttenberg7405 NNNNNNNOOOOOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo!!

I always forget that Animated Jetstorm's design was loosely based on Beast Machines Jetstorm. I'm glad he got that recognition, but honestly, I'd love to see a more faithful update someday - he's one of my favourite characters!

@capmodesty

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that Jetstorm was on the designers mind for Cybertron Snarl too, he himself is based on Beast Wars Silverbolt but the chest colour makes it look like the Vehicon face

@robinleedy7828

6 ай бұрын

@@capmodestySnarl? Dinobot?

@capmodesty

6 ай бұрын

@@robinleedy7828 No, Cybertron Snarl, wolf, AKA Fangwolf in Galaxyforce

@robinleedy7828

6 ай бұрын

@@capmodesty Oh Yeah That Snarl

Fun fact, it’s been stated that the concept for the mass produce drones and beach machines was basically they didn’t have the money to create that many character models for the bad guys

You blew my mind with the KSI bots being Vehicons theory. I had never thought of it like that but it makes so much sense. Great video as always! Excited to see all the Rise of the Beasts tie in episodes next month

@novustalks7525

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty obvious. Don't know how you never realised it

@bamaboyz8978

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t expect to see you here

@NobleRaider2747

Жыл бұрын

Awesome seeing you here, Pigpen!

@mkhanman12345

Жыл бұрын

@@bamaboyz8978 where

@mkhanman12345

Жыл бұрын

@@NobleRaider2747 in Italy?

These were always my favorite army build types, especially in Prime, but I love the variety in Beast Machines

The Transformers game from 2004 based on Armada also had it's own mass produced army of Decepticon robots known as "Decepticlones" with several different types such as "Light Unit", "Medium Unit", "Heavy Unit" and more. These guys are pretty iconic to me given their uniqueness amongst the designs rather than being all one theme / color, although it is cool to have that too sometimes.

@noddy1973

Жыл бұрын

Huh no mention of Decepticlone army from Armada game or Cybertron games various grunt designs from both sides?

@RTMecha

Жыл бұрын

@@noddy1973 The Decepticlones are the enemies you fight off in the Transformers Armada PS2 game.

@MicronOnline

Жыл бұрын

@@noddy1973 re using background character models is somewhat common in FPS games. So it's up in the air if the Cybertron games grunts are supposed to be clones in cannon. OR if it's limitations of the time and money necessary, to make individual bots that makes them so similar

@zacharybrogden3038

Жыл бұрын

Man I love that game. The Heavy Unit and Spiders terrified me as a kid but I loved it.

@RTMecha

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharybrogden3038 The Spider Tank is probably one of my favorites

i like how after the war ended, in RiD2015 the decepticons were able to recolor themselves, with one of them altering their appearence further and becoming a bounty hunter

@thesimpnations8283

8 ай бұрын

Kinda like black rights after 19-

The Beast Machines Vehicons (show and toyline) were the best part of that entire series. Such an interesting aesthetic too. Basically how Cybertronians would look without humanising features and faces.

@novustalks7525

Жыл бұрын

Love beast machines

I loved it when emgo called he’s vehicon Gary the accountant 🤣

I was a big fan of the Vehicons when I first saw them in Beast Machines as a kid. As their Cybertronian alt modes fascinated me. My love of Vehicons would only return several times after watching TFP, AOE, and after reading Beast Wars Uprising where they were portrayed as an army of Transforming Terminators with the added bonus of having a zombie virus (that one was by far the coolest). I would later find myself creating an army of all the various Vehicons. So as a long-time fan of the Vehicons, it was great to finally get a video of them.

I actually feel sorry for them always being abused, especially in the prime series as we can see they don’t want to fight, but are always suffering:(, especially the part with ratchet torturing a miner class one. They are just robots doing their assigned job and they had to suffer because they were born in the side of the deceptions. It’s just great to see in the ending of transformers prime the vehicons and the other transformers unite together and rebuild cybertron.

@clownplayer7265

Жыл бұрын

Didn't also some named Decepticons kill some additional vehicons because they're terrible bosses?

@fegreninja7197

Жыл бұрын

@@clownplayer7265 The only named Decepticons we’ve actually seen kill the vehicons were Starscream and Megatron, and Starscream only killed the vehicons to escape capture when he went rogue. Breakdown actually respected the vehicons and in an episode (I forgot which one) Breakdown regularly talked with them.

@Wolfbroa

10 ай бұрын

@@fegreninja7197it was one with racket juiced up on synthetic energon and he talking to a vechicon something about arachnid

@fegreninja7197

10 ай бұрын

@@Wolfbroa Oh right, “Stronger, Faster” that’s the one

Perhaps the idea of the Decepticon drone army began as early as Generation 1 with the Insecticon swarm? Or even just the mass of paint swapped Seekers? Although the Seekers weren't drones, they do kind of create the idea of a near infinite number of identical-looking soldiers to fill the evil army.

@twistedgaming9185

Жыл бұрын

In the original toyline at retail, the Autobots outnumbered the Decepticons (22 Autobots against 7 Decepticons). So the Seekers were a way to pad out the Decepticon army (along with a few Reflectors, although the toy wasn't available until it became available as a mail away, two years later).

@fegreninja7197

Жыл бұрын

In the G1 episode War Dawn I’m pretty sure Megatron has a squad of identical soldiers, so maybe that’s where the idea came from

I wished, but didn't dare hope for Steve to be mentioned. Always going above and beyond.

Wasn't mentioned in the Video but "Prime" Vehicons are also introduced in G1 IDW 2005 Comic Books, serving as Titan Hunters or appearing in Holiday Special

There are also two more different named Vehicons besides Steve: Shadelock, a vehicon turned bounty hunter/mercenary from Prime`s sequel series Robots In Disguise and Fearstorm, a gladiator from IDW Publishings comic books. There maybe more Vehicons like these that I don`t know about. These two are only one that know of.

I would love to see both Vehicon incarnations come together into one big army. I love both vehicon incarnations, especially the designs of the Beast Machines ones because they're decently diverse. But I also enjoy how the designs and how similar-looking the Prime Vehicons were. I just love how the flying Vehicons looked vaguely Sportscar-like.

The Basics On Vehicons… as well as Steve.

@abdullahirfan9991

Жыл бұрын

I just expect Steve walking in with vordt of the boreal valley's OST

Wow, I didn't know the Beast Machines Vehicons were so terrifying. The concept of having your soul and individuality stripped away to become part of a seemingly endless hoard of drones is something I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.

9:09/9:10 Nitro Zeus is based on the KSI BOSS body type. Not to mention that the BOSS recolor and the KSI Sentry recolor from Stinger were released in the Studio Series toyline.

@jakecowsert6185

Жыл бұрын

Ppl don’t know trax is vechcon I keep arguing with them

@ltb1345

Жыл бұрын

Seems like Nitro Zeus was a BOSS who survived long enough to develop sentience, and reconfigured his head to base it off of Shockwave.

@jakecowsert6185

Жыл бұрын

@@ltb1345 like any cybertronion they can have upgrades

A Personal Headcanon of mine, was that since the Nemesis was Trypticon from Fall of Cybertron, I always figured the Prime Vehicons to be clones of Full-tilt, G1 Trypticon's chest partner.

TF prime vehicons are basically the transformers version of stormtroops

It was actually me and my twin bro who looked through TF Prime and decided which Vehicons were Steve, finding him some of the worst but memorable moments from most episodes that he'd always survive somehow. We brainstormed a backstory that he was a CYbertronian witht he ability to expend great energy to shift between 3 body forms, Miner with greater strength for labor, car, and jet, that he was cloned by Trypticon as the Nemesis as it needed a crew, and so his forms became the body types of each Vehicon, he would never get noticed by the named Cons and endure horrible situations on Earth, at some point taking damage, forgettign his designation, and adopting the Human name Steve, by the final batle of Prime he'd been assigned to a mine and waited there for some time with 2 other Vehicons until an encounter with the Bee Team and Steeljaw during RID. We even made him and entire article on the Transformers Prime Wiki, sadl soem morons tried messing with it. THe article got a bit of attraction. So I think we helped in growing the legend of Steve the Vehicon a bit. I love that he was made canon through a comic.

@braydengill9495

Жыл бұрын

You are a Legend for this.

@TheZamaron

Жыл бұрын

@@braydengill9495 Thanks.

I own the Buggy Vehicon figure from AOE and because of that figure, I’ve always labeled the KSI Drones as “Vehicons” instead of their actual name cause Vehicons seemed much more fitting

@novustalks7525

Жыл бұрын

They're actual name is the prototypes. But they're literally the vehicons in concept

@jakecowsert6185

Жыл бұрын

Thank you I’m not the only one

@jakecowsert6185

Жыл бұрын

@@novustalks7525 they can’t have protoform

@jakecowsert6185

Жыл бұрын

I believe they are vehicon

@novustalks7525

Жыл бұрын

@@jakecowsert6185 what? They're made by humans

I'm really hoping that at some point the writers revisit the Vehicon generals in a future show. It's always interesting seeing the distinct personalities that lead their perspective squad.

My brother and I got the original Vehicon Generals way back when they came out, though it was weird how much larger Jetstorm was from Tankor and Thrust. We never saw Obsidian/Strika in stores. My brother also got Blastcharge, but we never even knew about the other 3 Generals until this video. A couple years ago, I spotted the new show-accurate Tankor in store and snatched him up. Out of all of them, I'm not sure who I like more, Jetstorm or Tankor. Character-wise, probably Tankor due his character arc, but I have a special love for flyers and tanks. I often impulse buy when I come across something that can fit one or both of those descriptions.

I have an idea for a Vehicon concept where they're a hive mind, with a primary body and many remote drone bodies. That way, we can give them personalities while not feeling so bad watching them get smashed up because as long as the primary body is alive, so are the Vehicons, because it only counts as "death" if the primary body is destroyed. They still react to pain because the primary body has a connection to them and have basic "minimize damage to tools" functions, and their dull minds stem from the stress of having to split their consiousnesses so much.

Steve would be proud of you for this amazing basics video!

Your videos are wonderful. I love learning more Transformers in-world and fandom lore from you

Would the Sweeps from G1 also count as such a horde of mass-produced things?

@ChrisMcFeely

Жыл бұрын

Oh sure, if I was doing a video specifically about "mass-produced guys" ("The Basics on Army-Builders" maybe?) they'd definitely be in there. There's tons of other examples not touched on in this video.

@metal_fusion

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisMcFeely I have to disagree, G1 sweeps were mainly individual reformatted decepticons and the times we see them are in pairs of 4 or even 7 at times. Dreamwave comics did made them a mass produced army builder unit but outside of most Transformers material the Sweeps aren’t a army unit. Okay apparently Tfwiki also states that other media has the Sweeps as army building units in IDW, Legends material comics as well

@Azurios

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisMcFeely The video is about Vehicons after all. I just had to think directly of the sweeps when describing it. You never see a lot of them, but as often as things die, there must be quite a few of them.

@matthewreynoso6904

Жыл бұрын

Never would’ve thought of adding the Sweeps into all the armies mentioned in this video!

@ltb1345

Жыл бұрын

@@metal_fusion The ability to duplicate themselves carried over for the Insecticons when they became Sweeps. That's why there are more than just two or three of them.

The Vehicons need new figures immidiately, both the Beast Machine generals, Strika, Obsidian, Tankor, and the Prime Vehicons who can be the foot soldiers serving under the BM Vehicon generals.

Now we need a basics of decepticons warships nemesis.

I’ve been hoping for a The Basics episode on the Vehicons! I really love the Prime versions of the Vehicons the most, but I love both the Beast Machines and Beast Wars Uprising versions as well!

For me the Beast Machines Vehicons will always be the best especially Jetstorm with his threatening banter and pop culture references like “ Gotta catch’em all “ and “ your situation matches your location TERMINAL!”

I remember as a kid when watching Beast Machines on dvd 📀 being intrigued by the Vehicon concept and thought Megatron’s decisions on who’s sparks to use for the generals added additional evil irony to his character.

I think I liked the Prime version as they are not that dumb but they are comical relief for both Autobots and Decepticons.

Do THE BASICS on DRONES next, Chris!

Gotta say that the Prime Vehicons are definitely my favorite

Fun Fact: Those hilarious Hub promos are the reason I like the Vehicons even more. I even bought a Prime Vehicon because of it. God, I miss The Hub

Honestly, I didn't think there was enough content for a Vehicons basics video? You proved me wrong again Chris. Kudos. As for my favorites, I like the Beast Machines Vehicons the most.

7:58/8:01 Not to mention Shadelock, a Vechion mercenary employed by Starscream.

I really wanna see a basics vid on Mass Shifting Construction vehicles to titanic limbs, giant robots to handheld objects and tall bots that can cram every servo into a motorcycle

Vehicons always have the coolest were most unique designs in my opinion. I am hoping that the next chapter to Legacy has a version of these guys in either the car or jet mode. I know for a fact that studio series is going to do the Devastation variations since they basically have the molds and get easily be sold individually or as a two-pack. We would buy it

I can't help but wonder what was going through that Vehicon's head when Megatron tossed him off the ship. He should know he is a car type. I get from a narrative perspective we would question why he didn't transform as most wouldn't realize he didn't have a jet alt.

Also the decepticon grunts from the highmoon games are also referred to as vehicons

The Prime Vehicons/Steve are my favourite they're just so funny and stylish

I wanna see SG Vehicons (Prime kind) with Autotrooper colors and vice versa. Legacy has the advantage of drawing different characters from all the continuities and they’re touching Animated with Prowl but I’m hoping Hasbro uses Legacy to do some TFA characters that didn’t get toys in that line like say General Strika.

You could also put the G1 Insecticon clones (Insecticlones) in this category.

It feels like it could have been tied into the generic seekers used to turn a few Decepticon characters into and army in early G1 episodes and then later was taken further with the Vehicon concept.

There have been many names for these guys Steve, Ted, Chuck and the best of all Gary This is an Easter egg for all the Emgo316 fans out there Also great job as always man👍

@Lukusprime

Жыл бұрын

I’ve always knowing Unnamed Vehicon Drone as Gary instead of Steve. I thought everyone called him Gary until I learned about the Steve running joke on the wiki

I loved the TFP Vehicon design. It was like someone made the Decepticon logo into a car.

I always found it weird they never did more with Obsidian, considering him and Strika are the only transformers confirmed to be sort of married.

@novustalks7525

Жыл бұрын

Married? When?

@grimnir8872

Жыл бұрын

@@novustalks7525 I said sort of married because Beast Machines refers to Obsidian and Strika being "Consorts" which is a fancy word for being the romantic partner or spouse of someone.

@gabrielchee8470

Жыл бұрын

@@grimnir8872 technically Deathsaurus is the first TF who is married.

@twistedgaming9185

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielchee8470 It is only canon to the manga, which is separate from the Japan's G1 cartoon continuity.

The Prime/Aligned versions are my favorite, but I do have a soft spot for Tankor

Might we be seeing this idea again in the Transformers ROTB movie in just under a month?? That big battle scene looks like an army of Predacon drones to me... Great video as always bro and the KSI idea also seems on point to me as well.

Hey Chris, could you do a basics on Strika? Or a video on both her and Obsidean as a pair? I loved those two in beast machines!

The Insecticons in the original Transformers series were also known for making a vast number of clones of themselves to represent a swarm like real insects often made up of.

This is a pretty good video that I didn't know had too much lore to it. I can't wait for the Metroplex and Fortress Maximus Basics videos and go over their histories since there are Basics videos on Trypticon and Scorponok.

The generic Decepticon soldiers in War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron also looked somewhat similar to the Prime Vehicons, but they were never called as such.

@DONG-502

4 ай бұрын

I don't belive that these are Vehicons

My favourite version are definetly the Uprising ones. "Derailment" wasn't just a good ending, but also really showed them as a actual threat. They could defeat some without much effort, but there were just too many.

Not Vehicons, but in the Transfomers Armada video game there were Decepticlones. And there were ALOT, light, medium, and heavy units, swords units, flying and sniper units, spider tanks, artillery units, gorilla units, drone units, and my personal favorite the roll arm units that rolled around and blasted enemies like a droideka from Star Wars.

I had no clue that "Steve" was a thing and now I'm in love with Vehicons!

TF Prime's Vehicons are my absolute favorites. Their design is simple but so good. I really wish they would release both vehicon variants with new molds.

I remembered back in the day looking up Obsidian and Strika on G1 fansites to learn about these guys. Turns out they're originally created for BM. It only FunPub that tried to make it them fit within the tailend of the great war. I'm surprised that Japanese G1 hasn't try to wield thier story to their timeline. Before AOE came out, I hated there was no named Decepticons beyond Galvatron and Lockdown but after seeing the movie, it actually worked in it's favor. In Bay's movies, the Decepticons appear for a few seconds and straight up died in quick anticlimactic fashion. At least with sparkless drones, you don't have to be worried that their potential will get wasted and easily watch them get slaughtered.

Out of all the "Beast Machines" Vehicons, Jetstorm was probably the best with his humor and awesome design. Beyond that, I also like the "Prime" interpretation with their sleek designs and purple/gray color schemes.

Great video. My favorite version of Vehicons Are the Prime Version. Its also interesting to say that Prime Vehicons unlike his BM Version had Sparks. Because in the Battle for omega keys on Cybertron, the Spark Extractor works on them And kill some Vehicons.

Would the Ground Soldiers and Seekers from Transformers: Devastation also count as mass-produced Decepticon army even those they seems to have their own Sparks?

@sukottotsukeshi.

8 ай бұрын

Along with the live action

Man really dose research everything about transformers. We never thought he would talk about these. Prime is probably the most famous. Gotta feel bad for Steve.

Any chance on the basics on Strika, obsidian and Jetstorm?

When we find out Rhinox is one of the generals hit home for me, that still hits me hard as I grew up with beast wars and is my favorite transformer line.

Finally DECEPTICONS TRANSFORM AND RISE UP!

@herbalyzoltan409

Жыл бұрын

I thought you'd never ask. Attack, attack attack!

I'm getting a brainstorm for including Vehicons in my fanfiction right now!

Whenever I think of mindless Decepticon armies I always think of the Decepticlones from the Transformers PS2 game :)

The original G1 insecticons had an army of drones, and I think the Seekers were meant to be drones as well. Great video!

how the vehicons came to be beast machines: story-backed concept that supports the themes of the series and allows for the same model to be reused, saving the crew money. prime: saving the crew money

I never heard about vehicon Steve before and now I love him

The faceless, unlimited numbers of enemy soldiers is often seen in shows like this. The heroes always have a set number of figures, while the forces of evil always had unlimited numbers of faceless drones it didn't matter if it was the innumerable masked figures of COBRA soldiers from GI Joe, or the endless waves of zombies in any franchise, the bad guys always had an endless army of faceless, identical, emotionless drones always willing to go into a fight and be mowed down like wheat in a field But the bigger question is why it was only the bad guys that had the unlimited numbers of faceless cannon fodder and never the good guys? Why were these faceless armies so willing to be destroyed en masse? Did it go back to the Japanese "Banzai" charges of ww2? The million man Chinese army from the Korean war? Or was it older than that?

@ThyBigCheddar

Жыл бұрын

It's to give the good guys an underdog approach. And how better to do that than to give the bad guys a huge army. And easiest way to fill an army is with clones or generic bad guys.

@dragonweyr44

Жыл бұрын

@@ThyBigCheddar The underdog theme only goes so far. It could work once, maybe twice, but not week after week after week after week. It doesn't make sense Let me put it this way It's the apocalypse and everyone that you know has turned into a zombie, You hold up in some kind of fortress like place with ammo, guns, supplies, maybe some people with you You manage, over time, to kill off every zombie in the area, let's say, 10 miles for arguments sake Does it make sense that MORE zombies randomly appear and in greater numbers then all of those zombies you JUST killed off in a short amount of time like they do in the Resident Evil or Walking Dead franchises? Like they're magnetically drawn to you Or, let's put it another way Transformers Now some of the series make it a point that Megatron has a factory to produce vehicons on an automated basis like in Beast Machines, but other series, like the Prime series don't have factory pumping out endless numbers of disposable canon fodder Cobra from GI Joe has an endless number of trained mercenaries to draw on, where do they come from and why are they so readily available These franchises make no sense The Nazis had about 10 million soldiers during the war, both native born and those recruited from other countries but once a group of them were wiped out, more didn't spring out of the ground like dragon's teeth (ancient Greek myth from the Jason and the Argonauts myth), so why do movie and tv armies do that?

@ThyBigCheddar

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonweyr44 What? In Prime they make a point of how the Decepticon forces are thinning. By the final episode the only reason the Autobots win is because the Decepticons lost over half their troops through the terracon outbreak and Arachnid. Also why are you bringing up stuff like the nazis having 10 million soldiers? To a group of 5 people, that probably looks infinite. Your argument seems to be based on shoddy memory and you just wanting to be angry at flaws that aren't even there.

@dragonweyr44

Жыл бұрын

@@ThyBigCheddar Thinning, in the final episodes What about the dozens of episodes before that? Was there any complaint about how they keep losing soldiers? Megatron throws two off his ship, one turns into a plane and flies away, the other turns into a car and smashes on the ground. No one says anything about how he potentially kills 2 of his own and definitely killed 1

@ThyBigCheddar

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonweyr44 Yes. A lot actually. Infact season 3 had an entire plot about how Megatron needed an new army.

In my head I feel like the term Vehicon would be used as a general term for Cybertronian clones, no matter who made them like other alien races. Where as being either branded Autobot or Decepticon would give them the title of Autotrooper or Decepticlone for variation and more association with the two.

I believe the robot design from Duane Capizzi's Carmen Sandiego was created in reference to the standard Vehicon template.

Personally in terms of the Prime vehicons I’ve always been much more of a fan of Steve’s brother, Gary.

@gandalflotr2898

Жыл бұрын

Emgo316

I've kind of have love/hate relationship with the Vehicons. I like the idea of them being a separate army made by another party, like the Quintessons, humanity, of BW Megatron. That can really contrast with Cybertronians, since while they're "robots", they're not machines. It's basically the other end of the robot spectrum, they have no soul, just programing. What I Don't like, is the TF Prime approach of making them fill out the bulk of the Decpticon army. I always find TF is at its best when both sides are made up of real characters with personalities. The whole mass produced drone idea just sucks the soul out of the Decpticon army

“Know the best thing about vehicon troopers?” “They’re easily distracted.”

Back in the time of beast machines, the scavenger went on clearance so my main playtime featured techno wasp buzz saw and black arachnia taking out control towers that the scavengers built and guarded.

I loved the joke in Prime where megatron tell the jet vehicons to go after smokescreen and throws the car vehicon off the ship 😅

The Beast Machines Vehicons are memorable but I think I like the TF Prime Vehicons better especially Steve.

While the RID Vehicons did get a shoutout, I particularly find it cool that arguably the lead member of Starscream's bounty hunter trio, Shadelock, is a modified Miner Vehicon, further bringing to question the level of sentience amidst the standard Vehicon troops if he was able to break out on his own.

I ALWAYS want to army build with these guys, the Sweeps and the Sharkticons!

Great Stuff, as always! I love it!

An episode I've been eagerly awaiting! And even better we got the Vehicon who fell to his death in car mode. 😂

In a way the G1 transformers episode War Dawn kinda introduced vehicons considering the bots helping Megatron were identical although they were thinking for themselves.

Your videos are the reson behind most of my transformers knowledge. Thank you for these videos.

All praise Steve, the real hero of the decepticon ranks.

The idea of drone armies can be even taken back further in the G1 series with the Insecticons using mindless insect drones to do their bidding.

I think the Decepticlone army from the PS2 Armada game deserves a mention to their origin as well.

Very interesting, though I hoped you would have shown the drones used by Megatron in the G1 episode War Dawn, to help show how long the idea has been around.

Another amazing video