Man, I’ve never even HEARD of this. I find it interesting that Hasbro didn’t bother adding lore or character descriptions to this toyline. I feel like that’s the main thing that made Transformers so successful.

@ghosteyesriderdragon187

10 ай бұрын

I have. When Chris did a Basics on the Monsterbots, he also mentioned how the Battle Beasts became Headmasters for the Monsterbots

@antifurryfoundation55

10 ай бұрын

I remember having the lizard moose, and shark ones but I never knew what the hell they were

@ianbrewster8934

10 ай бұрын

My father bought a bunch of these for me as they were cheap two and three packs.

@Mekboy_ComputerMonster

10 ай бұрын

*Pulls string* _"Maybe someday?"_

@Endrgamr262

10 ай бұрын

Maybe that’s the reason they weren’t successful because hasbro didn’t give them any lore

"Fire burns wood!" "Water put out fire!" "Wood... uh, beats water!" They really stopped trying very quickly, huh.

@ChrisMcFeely

10 ай бұрын

Some sources go with "Wood floats on water!" which doesn't make any more SENSE, but is... a true statement, at least?

@DarthPrime52

10 ай бұрын

You are familiar this little obscure franchise called Pokémon yes? Kinda ahead of its time if you think about it that way. Then again it’s just rock-paper-scissors but plants beating water makes a bit more sense than paper beating rock.

@manjackson2772

10 ай бұрын

​@@DarthPrime52in Pokémon it's more like, attacks are imbued with essence of plant. It's just abstract enough to overlook the actual mechanics

@gabrielchee8470

10 ай бұрын

Then again some grass type moves involve wood (e.g. Wood Hammer)

@leetri

10 ай бұрын

@@manjackson2772 The logic is that you water plants to make them grow

"With the rise of the internet, many eighties kids who only knew the toys as Battle Beasts were shocked to learn their connection to Transformers in Japan." I am living proof of this.

@TheVeritas1

10 ай бұрын

Me too.

@toddwood440

9 ай бұрын

Yep, I saw this video pop up and I was baffled how there was any connection between the two. We owned some battle beasts and never thought of any relationship with transformers.

Fire, Wood and Water being used in a game of rocks paper scissors reminds me of home Fire, Grass and Water was used as the main typings for the Starter Pokemon of each generation.

@GoGojiraGo

10 ай бұрын

Fortunately Pokemon didn't go the "one Type to defeat them all" route Battle Beasts did, even if some Types like Fairy can feel OP at times. Fun little fact, if there was a Pokemon that was all 18 Types in one, it would still be weak to the Rock-type.

@vincentleonard3797

10 ай бұрын

​@@GoGojiraGo Just picturing this affront to Arceus rampaging across the land entering Lycanroc territory. The pack alpha, a wizened Midnight form, is alerted to this monstrosity, which looks like a monotype Pokémon from every type Frankensteined together (I don't have clear idea of which ones aside from not Lycanroc). She is led to the abomination, which notices its arrival with a glance over its shoulder (at least it looks like a shoulder) and a roar like a legion. The alpha Lycanroc is unfazed, shielding her eyes against some embers before stomping the ground, sending a line of sharpened stones racing along the ground towards the beast, splitting to surround and stab it from all angles. The beast roars in pain,attempting to flee once the rocks retract into the ground, but the alpha already foresaw that, having ordered some Midday forms to flank it. In its agony, it had failed to notice this until it turned to run. The alpha barks an order, and the Middays howl to the sky, causing large boulders to fly out the ground and rain onto the monster. It braces for impact, but in vain. The boulders crash into it hard enough to batter it with its own arms, which it seems to weather before the effort of standing becomes too demanding and it collapses, unconscious. The pack circles it, uncertain if this is real or a ruse, but some prodding convinces them that it's not getting up quickly. They howl in victory, the alpha questioning how to dispose of it before noticing some humans in the distance. This beast looks nothing like anything it's familiar with living here, and looking at it closer, its own body conflicts with itself in several places. It could only be a human creation. She barks to the others and motions to back off, allowing it to watch the humans reactions to the monster. One of the humans looks at the alpha directly, and nods once while closing his eyes, a motion she has learned is a display of trust among humans. After thinking for a moment, she return the motion as the humans restrain the beast's misshapen limbs and carry it away to wherever it came from.

@ShadowEclipex

10 ай бұрын

​@@GoGojiraGoDragon type was almost that in Gen 1, in the way it resisted most of the common typings (especially the starter types) and it's only weakness was effectively Ice type since the only damaging dragon type move in those first games dealt a garunteed set number.

Surprised that they didn't have any connections to the Pretender Shells, they share a lot if aesthetic similarities

@JetstreamGW

10 ай бұрын

Maybe they would've if they'd lasted longer, but Pretenders weren't introduced until 1988, looks like, right at the end of Battle Beasts' run.

@SuperSuperSpork

10 ай бұрын

@JetstreamGW I wonder if the same artist made the concept art

@jerryrichburg2458

9 ай бұрын

Just a different Time.

@dungeonsanddragonsbutformo9835

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking this

Headcanon: the 3 Wise Ones and their Gems were created by the 13 Primes before the fall of Megatronus. Specifically Solus Prime, Quintus Prime, & Onyx Prime as a way to test the Emberstones power at creating non-Cyberonian life and also to hone in on how to make "Mass Produced" versions of their artifacts for the future of expansion & colonization of unpopulated planets.

I remember as a kid getting Battle Beasts and finding it *really interesting* that the suits they wore had very Japanese mecha elements to them, and I noticed the Takara connection. It wasn't until decades later when I learned of the Beastformers connection

I just love the battle beasts. I purchased a lot of them during my childhood. 20 years later, I learned about their connection to the Transformers and that the shadow beasts I own were exclusive to France and were pretty rare.

@beastmanreview009

10 ай бұрын

I learned about the Transformers connection a quite few years back from TFWiki!

@pinkstargalexy865

10 ай бұрын

Oh cool. I only knew them from the Headmasters, thinking they were backround alien characters thought up, but just found out they were an entire toyline and branch. They look super cool for sure.

@FoxyAlopex

10 ай бұрын

​@@pinkstargalexy865same

@beastmanreview009

10 ай бұрын

@@pinkstargalexy865 I didn't know till quite a few years ago through TFWiki:)

@marvelousball

10 ай бұрын

What a terrible childhood you had.

I remember loving these toys when I was young! Beastformers and Beast Wars seem like a perfect lore pairing.

@ikecarr5989

10 ай бұрын

I didn't know until 2001, where I read a BEAST WARS/BATTLE BEASTS crossover fan fic, that the lines intersected. I have the Dreamwave book where Megatron recruited the Predacons on the Planet Beast. Where the Predacons had gone native.

I had dozens of these. I was obsessed. Man this was a blast to the past

@shenglongisback4688

10 ай бұрын

Same so much fun

@MrPooPooJohn

10 ай бұрын

@@Joelorian no :( my favorite was the giraffe guy and I think I had a gazelle one too.

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

10 ай бұрын

I lost all of my original figures when I moved from Ohio to Vermont. I have since collected a bunch. My favorites are shark, lion, fox, rhino and black panther.

Came here from Beastman Review! I wanna learn more about these! They look so rad!

This is a toyline I had never even heard of until now I honestly think hasbro should bring something like this back maybe if they made a battlebeasts tv series maybe exploring the lore of the characters I do think this series does have some potential

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

10 ай бұрын

I hope some of their designs end up in the MOTU figures universe.

My parents didn't allow me to collect more than one toyline at a time so I didn't own any of the Battle Beasts, but I remember thinking they looked cool; I also remember the slogan/chant from the UK commercials: "Battle Beasts! Battle Beasts! They battle for FUN!"

I wonder if the Battle Beasts characters will ever become prominent Transformers characters, since they have unique designs and potential to bring about new adventures for the Autobots and Decepticons.

@JetstreamGW

10 ай бұрын

I mean, the comics license has been picked up by Image, and there's some kind of weird Transformers/GI Joe/Void Rivals (??????) crossover nonsense going on. So if Hasbro's picked Battle Beasts back up, it *could* happen.

I remember the original line in shops but the only time I actually held one was at primary school when a kid I knew brought some in. It was one of the Shadow Warriors, so my assumption all these years has been that all Battle Beasts had the 'look inside' gimmick. Kind of want to collect some now, they've got Monster in My Pocket energy.

Don't give up Sheep Commander!

Oh man....I had a BUNCH of these. What a good childhood memory.

I wondered why the titans return mosterbots titan masters looked like animals. That was actually really interesting revelation 😀

"Collect every one of these incredible creatures that battle FOR FUN!" I loved these toys! Good gravy I had a lot of them.

Honestly I have never heard of these things before but I feel like the entire co-branding between the battle beasts and the transformers that they had in Japan would’ve worked really well here in the states especially with Beast wars

Weird....I was just talking to OptiNation Review about these like literally 2 hours ago! I have the red armored gorilla with the fire rub sign. When I was a kid I had zero idea what it was, I just made a connection to Transformers because of the rub sign (I had a few G1 bots that were hand downs). I recall it was around the time when season 2 of Beast Wars came out and I'd find myself pretending it was Optimus Primal. Odd how there was so much lore behind it, never knew that till quite a few years ago while reading through TFWiki. Great video man!

@LadiesMan217ebayuser

10 ай бұрын

Hey! You got a ❤ from this guy!!

@LadiesMan217ebayuser

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for exposing me to this channel Ner-Ner!!!🎉

@SuperShreddertron666

10 ай бұрын

Same! I just learned what these toys are. Had some years and years ago. I thought they looked cool, but had no idea what they were called till this morning haha!

@ChrisMcFeely

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed, thanks for the shout-out in your new video! 😁

@daroachdoggjr8426

10 ай бұрын

This channel is so full of information! Thanks for sending me this way!

I had so many of these guys, thankfully I still have a few of them. The pirate bat guy was always my favorite. Imagine my surprise years later when I discovered the Transformers connection! This kind of thing is ripe to make a comeback, I really wish HasTak would either re-issue or reboot these guys.

I discovered their existence when I investigated online why the headmaster of my Doublecross/Twinferno had an eyepatch. Having the Battle Beasts and the Monsterbots meet again, not only in media, but in the form of a Headmaster gimmick, was pretty awesome, and made perfect sense. I believe these guys have a chance of an even greater comeback. Hasbro can give them the treatment they gave to the Pretenders for the Legacy line, not strictly following their play pattern from the 80s, and instead making them regular transformers figures, that convert into their battle sleds, or something like that

New subscriber good sir! Just saw Beastman mentioned you and I had some of those growing up. I had no idea whst they were from. I had a drill car for one and a red base they all came in. Great channel💯

Wait a ruling Lion tribe and evil Alligator anyone else getting Deja vu with a certain Lego set?

@burner555

10 ай бұрын

Chima😂😂

Before I start rattling on, great video Chris. One I really enjoyed gets a thumbs up. Battle Beasts never caught my interest as a toy I wanted. I do remember the advert being shown on Saturday morning tv. Seeing these in my local Woolworths and John Menzies. Very cool toys with the rub symbols. The connections to Transformers takes it to a new high. I wonder if we will get more crossover with Transformers in the toyline. It would be cool if it ever happened.

Used to love these figures when I was young but at the time never knew they were connected to Transformers. I still have a few of the figures - brilliantly designed characters. Think I have an issue of the comic from the Diamond Select version somewhere too.

I had a few of these. And just learned today, in 2023, some 40 years later. Of the connection to the Transformers. Picking my jaw off the floor right now.

I have at least 1 of every series 1 and 2 of the Battle Beasts, each of the 3 mini vehicles as well as the Fire and Water bases ( was always missing the wood ) and I had NO IDEA that they were linked in any way, shape, or form to the Transformers, which I also love. This is amazing and really made my day.

Amazing, I have the Titans Return Monsterbots and I had no idea they had a connection to the Battle Beasts! 😮

Epic! One of the best Basics videos ever.

I loved my small collection of a dozen or so Battle Beasts when I was a kid. Great topic for a video.

I've wanted to know more about these guys ever since your Monsterbots video. Thanks a lot, Chris! And to Greg too.

@xp3labs

10 ай бұрын

Have some shadow warriors and the originals as well

I love how in the commercial they just say "wood BEATS water!" because they couldn't think of an actual reason why wood would beat water

Ahh Battle Beasts. Doing the Grass-Fire-Water system before Pokemon made it cool 😂

@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812

10 ай бұрын

Wood not grass. 😊

@45TRANSFORMERSFAN

10 ай бұрын

@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Oh I know that XD But it's pretty much the same thing

Thank you, this was an excellent video. As someone said below, what a blast to the past

I'm glad to see an episode about this line following the Rubsigns one.

A Weird Part of Beast wars history uncovered again by Chris

@LadiesMan217ebayuser

10 ай бұрын

Beastman Review was talking about how he would pretend the gorilla one was Primal lol. I'm loving this channel!🎉

My first exposure to them was watching Headmasters when we got the Takara collection

Damn, didn't know that the battle beast name continued onwards from hasbro to another company and from takara but under a different name. Also nice of them to get referenced in modern media.

"Water puts out Fire!" "Fire burns Wood!" "Wood... uh... wood!"

So from what I'm understanding, Battle Beasts is one of those fandoms that have almost died a long time ago, but managed to survive to today through the machinations of both the fans and the loose connections to other fandoms

I liked a lot of these designs of the figures. I had like maybe less then 8 pairs. I liked the white horse with the loght blue armor you had a picture of very early on in the video. The octopus was pretty cool too. They now go for between 28 to 50 for a single figure if they have their weapon

Oh I remember the commercial now! 😮 It’s been so long!👍👍

I remembered my favorite Transformers G1 episode where both the Autobots and Decepticons had to fight against a bunch of cyborg animals and then a giant energy eating worm 🪱 monster from (Quintison creation) that turned some of them into energy vampires, as a kid I thought that was a nod or reference to Battle Beast somehow since the commercials were still airing with moble vehicles just coming out. Sadly it still wasn't enough for me to want them.

I remember the Battle Beast advertisements on the back of the Marvel UK Transformers comic.

Me while watching the video "I had the bat with the green hook" 😂 love it. Keep up the great vids!

Battle Beasts were one of the few series that my mom let me collect. She seemed to be interested in them as well. So I had every one of them. I need to go home and check the attic. I'm sure they're still in a box. I haven't thought about those things until today.

Back in 2004 I found some at a toy store, I remembered playing with these all the time. I had the playsets too!

I didn’t know about their Transformers connection until I started watching Headmasters a few years ago.

I had a handful of these way back when. The elemental aspect drew me in, always loved anything to do with fire, water, and so on.

The theme song is stuck in my head. These Rock,Paper,Scissors figures look so fun!

I remember getting the blue bunny as a Christmas present once, and then bunches more of them at flea markets. I did not know of their connection to Transformers. Though, for some reason, I thought they were associated with *Slime Slurps* candy. Possibly the candy packaging reminded me of their tummy rubsigns. ...wait. Were Battle Beasts just the more action-oriented versions of the Care Bear Cousins?

Wow man. I've never even heard of these much less seen them....how interesting

I still have about a dozen of these from my childhood, and I never knew they had a Transformers connection until now!!! 🤯

Now I remember where the name repugnus ringed a bell, he did actually show up in a modern tv show it was in bumblebee cyberverse adventures,

Fantastic video! This would make a great feature for the legacy lineup!👍👍👍👍

@DBWalks2010

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!👍

I don’t remember seeing any of these as a kid!? Look quite cool though. I imagine I’d have been a fan if I had.

I completely forgot about these until you played the commercial that had been seared into my brain when I was a kid. I'll be sending you a bill for my PTSD therapy... ... Just kidding! 🤣 I had no idea Battle Beasts were connected to Transformers at all... this was FANTASTIC!!

Also one of Battle beasts merged with Foretress Maximus, using Spike Withwicky's suit ( prototype of master bracelets ). Also Beasts developed 5th way of master technology - getmaster. And new chokon power - jutchokon. ( or something ). With battle on the Beast begins one of the most impactful stories - The road to Legends's revival. And few about this Galvatron : This Galvatron is homage to Galvatron from Marvel comics ( the time-traveller ). He traveled in time and was present in the battle of Autobot city, but was killed by Metroplex. He was a city commander. Later he overthrew Megatron of normal timeline and became leader himself, later joining Unicron Neo ( second Dark Nova ) and Violetjaguar, who possesed bodies of 3 powered masters ( there 5 of them )

I constantly go through the tfwiki and see these constantly and have always wanted to know the story behind them, so I'm really glad you did this!

Please do a basics on tarantulas. He is my favorite beast wars character.

To be honest, I've never know about Battle Beasts before. Although they do have some similarity from the anime Beast Saga by their appearances, as I watched it on TV few years ago.

I had tons of the original Battle Beasts, but had no idea of the Transformers crossovers until right now!

I still have the pair I got as a kid. It's a shame these didn't catch on. I really like their design aesthetic.

Theres episode of Transformers Headmasters, Beastformers debut. I liked it. Later an anime called Beastars popular.

I remember having me and my brother having bought a bunch of Battle Beasts. Fun little toys and great ot see their connection with Transformers. Really brings me back. :)

I was surprised when I saw them on Headmasters. Interesting connection. I owned a few of them back in the day.

I had a rake of Battle Beasts in Ireland in the late 80s. I had an annual with the same cover as the first image in this video. It’s so great to see them again here.

Yes I knew about the link to the Transformers, back in the 80s us kids just assumed they were part of the same universe. I'd love to see the original toys get remade again, I'd collect them all.

I vaguely remember seeing these in toy stores and the commercials on TV when I was little. Talk about a long and storied history, the best kinds to hear when talking about the world of the Transformers.

I had dozens of these. Never could get a sunburst warrior though.

That was a blast from the past. I still have the old annual at home somewhere. Thank you Chris keep up the amazing content

Had a large bin of these figures and loved them. Many battles in the dirt pile out back with them.

I’ve seen these as a kid, but I definitely didn’t know their relations to the Transformers. Great Stuff, as always!

I still have some of my battle beasts from back in the day. It's more than a little worn, and the rub sign is gone, but I still got it. Need to get that remake of doublecross he was my favorite monsterbot

I still have my battle beast they were fun to collect

I love❤ videos like this! Never knew their existence and relation to the Transformers. Awesome video Chris!👍🏻

Hasbro could bring Battlebeasts back by reinventing their concept and giving them a major connection to the transformers lore

I had a bunch of these as a kid but I haven’t seen them in awhile(I hope they’re just in storage). Funny thing is I saw the Headmasters episode long ago but didn’t see the connection until like a decade later. 😂

Hi Chris,Great video about Transformers The Basics on Battle Beasts aka Battleformers, Keep them coming, Also your latest video was excellent, Also The Battle Beasts aka Battleformers are not only my favorite Transformers Factions but also my favorite Transformers Subgroups of all time, I too find it interesting that Hasbro didn't bother adding lore or character description to this toyline. I feel like that's the main thing that made Transformers so successful. Also When Chris did a Basics on the Monsterbots, he also mentioned how the Battle Beasts became Headmasters for the Monsterbots, I too wonder if The Battle Beasts characters will ever become prominent Transformers charcters since they have unique designs and potential to bring about new adventures for the Autobots and Decepticons.Also This is a ToyLine i had nevet even heard of until now i Honestly think hasbro should bring something like this back maybe if they made a Battlebeasts Tv Series maybe exploring the lore of the characters i do think this series does have some potential. I really hope HasTak would eitheir re-issue or reboot these guys. Also i too wondered why the Titans Return Monsterbots Titan Masters looked like animals. That was actually really interesting revelation.🙂Also Headcanon the 3 Wise Ones and their Gems were created by the 13 Primes before the fall of Megatronus. Specifically Solus Prime, Quintus Prime, & Onyx Prime as a way to test the Emberstones power at creating non- Cybertronian life and also to hone in on how to make "Mass Produced" Versions of their artifacts for the future of expansion & Colonization of unpopulated planets. Also my favorite Battle Beasts versions are The North American Versions of The Battle Beasts, Also the elemental aspect drew me in, always loved anything to do with fire, water, and so on. Also I've wanted to know more about these guys ever since Your Monsterbots video. Thanks Chris! And to Greg too not only for posting but also for sharing all i can say is: keep up the good work stay safe out there have a good day And until next time TILL ALL ARE ONE.🙂💪🦸🏋️✌️🇺🇲 10:11 pm.

This was really interesting! Thanks Chris!

I remember battle beast been sold in our local £1 shop and spending my pocket money on collecting them all

I have about 40 of them. As a kid, I named each one I had and gave them back stories. They were just a blank canvas for me and my friends.

I have no idea about the connection but I did thought of what would happen if these races faced each other

If things had been different, I could imagine the names Battle Beasts or Breastformers could have been used in place of "Beast Wars".

Love Battle Beasts. I have about 20 and the 3 transports. Don't recall if I had them as a Kid but learning they had a Transformers connection kindled my interest.

I swear I remember having these little guys as like a hand-me-down

I remember having a few of these. My favourite was the Orange Lobster.

I'd heard of the toys and remember seeing the advert for them in the UK TF comic but I didn't own any nor did I know until many years later that a connection was made between Battle Beasts and TF's which came as a total shock. I think I may have briefly played with some when somebody in Primary School brought them in to play with but that's as far as Battle Beasts went with me.

Whoah I had that dragon head chariot thing as a kid and could never figure out what it was from! I must have gotten it second-hand

I own all 3 of the Titans Return Monsterbots. The Battle Beasts homages was such a great idea

i couldnt remember these for ages. and now i find out they had even more life past the 80s;)👍👍

I actually have one of the 2012 Diamond Selects Battle Beasts figures. Never once thought that it would have a long history that connected the name to Transformers.

Ive had the rhino with the mace laying round the house since i was a kid. Took me ages to find out what he was. Both his arms have come off which sucks. Hopefully they glue on well enough

I didn't onow about the connection until I saw the Japanese Headmaster series later in life, but I loved the toys and the gimmick. I wish they had been more successful. I only owned a few of them, but I would always dig through them while my parents were shopping, wishing I had more money haha

It’s funny to think that, despite their obscurity, they’re the only other line besides G.I.Joe to crossover with the Transformers so often.

My bro and I had these as kids and I would totally buy them again if they ever made a resurgence. I had that giant beetle mobile fortress! Thank you for my daily dose of nostalgia.

This is the best Transformers lore ever.

I sadly never had any but a friend had LOADS (or I remember that he had loads). They looked awesome. Decades later I found what they where actually called & THEN that they where connected to TF! Crazy! Think NOW is the time to bring them back 😅👍