I only just saw Bumblebee last November, and it was a fun and charming film! I was disappointed that this is where I found out they were going next with the franchise. Everyone else’s “positive” reviews seem to just be positive because it’s not as bad as the Michael Bay messes. This film apparently spent two years in post-production and had five screenwriters. I was just turned off more and more by the marketing because it looked bland and severing too many ties with Bumblebee in tone and story approach. Very detailed and engaging review, Mathew!

@the-aspiring-creator4249

Жыл бұрын

You really hit the nail on the head with how people seem to be nice to this one because it's not Bay since if you watch this? It really is just a cleaner version of what we have seen time and time again with the Bay films.

While I wish the other Maximals, Rhinox and Cheetor, could have had more screen time and speaking lines, I honestly found Rise of the Beasts very entertaining. I'm also looking forward to what comes next too.

@xgray2012

2 ай бұрын

Which is an actual movie crossover between the Transformers and G.I. Joe.

I wasn’t a huge fan of it but I really enjoyed the action and Mirage stole the show. Great review 👍

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@RB01.10

Жыл бұрын

The suit bit was unexpected, but I liked it because it was something different.

16:23 Always appreciate a good callback Loved the vid

Being a massive Transformers nerd who has experienced genuinely great writing/story telling in this universe with these characters and lore and this still being the quality of movie we get is such pain. I'd genuinely rank this below the first and third Bay films, it feels like the same type of movie, just with the edges sanded off. I hate a lot of the stuff in the Bay films but they at least had more personality than this one.

@xgray2012

2 ай бұрын

Well, at least this movie is not as bad as Age of Extinction and the Last Knight and Revenge of the Fallen.

The only movie based on a toy I'm looking forward to is Getra Gerwig's Barbie movie.

Great review, I agree I was mostly bored, a step back from Bumblebee and a cross over I don't care about because they never got the other franchise right to begin with. Also Mathew are you going to review The Flash I imagine there is a lot to unpack?

Bumblebee was the best live action Transformers film.

@alienboy1322

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100. Bumblebee SHOULD HAVE BEEN the Transformers film we gotten first. Which is why I believe Michael Bay was not the right person to direct these films.

I LITERALLY had no clue this movie was being made, was made, and was recently released, until about a few hours ago when reviews popped up in my youtube homepage. I adore Transformers, the comics, the cartoons... nnnnot the movies. Still, it should have at least vaguely crossed my nerd culture channels?? Wait? Ron Pearlman? Woops. Looks like I gotta watch this now!

it's a shame the lesson they seem to have taken from Bumblee wasn't 'it pleased both fans+ critics' but 'it made less than the Bay films so back to formula'. That they trimmed the run time [it's rare now a days to get an event movie nearer 2 hours than 3] and avoided the worst traits of the Bay films suggests they were listening to some of the feedback but it's a flawed formula and given the last attempt to 'cinematic universe' Transformers was cancelled after 'Last Knight' underperformed, trying again seems very risky. Given he was given the daunting task of following on from Ryan Coogler and was only 30 at the time, I thought Steven Caple Jr. did a great job on Creed 2 and hopefully he can go onto better things than this.

@Otokogoroshi

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, as absolutely objectively garbage as the Bay Transformers movies have been... they still made a stupid amount of money. Bumblebee made roughly 450 million, on a budget of about 103 million. Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction both made over a BILLION DOLLARS.

@jamesatkinsonja

Жыл бұрын

@@Otokogoroshi True, there was a reason why they made 5 of the bay films after all [only stopping when Last Knight underperformed]. In fairness to Bumblebee it's budget was half of the usual $200 million for this series but financially I can see why they reverted to [slightly altered] type even if it is a bit of a shame artistically.

Noah is actually wearing a Exo-suit just like Spike’s son did in the animated Transformers movie from the 80s. That is the “Iron Man” suit.

Pretty much on your wavelength for this one; I was particularly disappointed because I have a lot of fondness for the Beast Wars cartoon, which, for a thing designed to sell action figures, gave the Maximal characters a lot of personality. Pity none of them had that in this film! No fair, I wanted random Shakespeare and yelling of "For the Royalty, BURN!" Oh, and what you said about there potentially being different versions of the script; so I spotted a bit when Optimus Primal asks Airazor "And the others?", she says "All gone", and I'm just going "What others, we only saw four of you lot get away in the opening scene?". In fact, that opening makes it look like their entire planet only had a population of five, 80% of which escape, which makes Unicron's devouring and destruction of it way less impressive.

I actually liked this movie as someone who does like the Transformers media franchise.

@CMcS-xk3hb

Жыл бұрын

Same, can't wait to see what happens next with G.I JOE now involved.

Problem with Bay as producer is that it feels like he is a Co-director of the movie.

I'd be down for a Transformers/GI Joe crossover... if they portray Cobra Commander in all his hammy cartoonish glory.

@alfje5492

11 ай бұрын

A crossover can't be much worse than either of those franchises so far, so yeah, why not? I mean, I won't watch it, but someone must be looking forward to it.

I haven't seen the Japanese dubs of *"THE TRANSFORMERS: The Movie"* (1986), Season 3 of the first animated series, and *"Revenge of The Fallen",* but I heard that Masako Katsuki (Sailor Neptune from the '90s *"Sailor Moon"* anime series) was the Japanese voice of Arcee, and I kinda wished they brought her back as Arcee in the Japanese dub of *"Rise of The Beasts".*

There's a really good Transformers movie in here. All they needed to do was to not have the Maximals/Terracons/Unicron included, give some focus to Arcee/Wheeljack, expand on Prime's arc and Noah's development. There are really good ideas that aren't executed well, especially when Prime's arc is far too rush and Noah's character is so inconsistent. But anyways, great review, as usual.

Great to hear your take on this and great video as always.

@FilmBrain

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

It's a better version of the same sh*t. If this had been the second movie in the franchise I'd be more forgiving but by the 7th film I'm tired of the same story repeated over again. Chase super important mcguffin that in the next film will be forgotten and replaced with new super important mcguffin to chase after. I really couldn't care less anymore about whatever thing they're chasing around after. It will all be meaningless by the next installment.

It is beyond frustrating that seemingly Paramount just cannot get the simple fact through their heads that the Bayverse for all the good it did in bringing TF back to prominence and bringing in this whole new wave of fans... is just not viable anymore. As you stated in this review, not a lot of TF fans really like the movies. Every concept the films have done in fact have been done far better in other media and even other TF media and once we got the MCU and other movie series? Audiences I think realized that they're better than this, that the TF films are not the ultimate blockbuster entertainment and that also a lot of them are just not good with TLK feeling like it was made out of both spite and desperation. It was the failure of that movie that led to BB being hastily reshot so that it could serve as a reboot, we should've been done with this. But instead they thought "Wait, people like the more stylized designs that hue closer to G1 and fanservice? Yes, we've found a way to keep up this mess of a continuity." and as a result we get ROTB, a film where you can blatantly tell that it is of two worlds, one of a creator's honestly cool vision for a TF movie that with a few tweaks could wind up great... and another of a studio who genuinely cannot understand that its audience is done with these movies and as a result everything becomes confused and I want to scream like Shia did for his last two TF films.

Honestly, I don't mind having an annoying comic relief around as long as there's only ONE of those (lookin' at you, Revenge of the Fallen).

After hearing his interviews, Steven Caple Jr. should've just rewrote Joby Harold's draft (allegedly since he has a *Story by* credit) from scratch since all of the stuff I liked about the flick seemed to have come from him (maybe excluding the G.I. Joe tease). If we got more of that, it would've been a more fun flick instead of a merely fine flick that I thought worked (personally speaking) in spite of the five credited writers who have either done nothing or wrote nothing but mediocre crap.

It is clear that this film needed to be at least 10 minutes or 20 minutes longer than it was. Is it better than the last night and age of extinction?. Yes. Hopefully the next film is more cohesive and doesn’t have as many problems as this one but still it is a decent step in the right direction.

@DieHardAlien

Жыл бұрын

Just as long as Steven Caple Jr. writes the script wholesale next time out alongside directing it.

@luckykennedy7364

Жыл бұрын

@@DieHardAlien Or he get someone on the same page as him and Paramount doesn’t overly interfere with it.

@DieHardAlien

Жыл бұрын

@@luckykennedy7364 Or that too.

@jamesatkinsonja

Жыл бұрын

@@luckykennedy7364 Given his youth [35] and inexperience [this is only his 3rd film] he probably had to do as he was told and not rock the boat too much for this film but hopefully he'll be able to be in a stronger position going forward.

The most frustrating thing about all this is that I wish we had gotten the films to be like this from the start. Finally injecting less obnoxiousness and bloat into this franchise of films and now it's too little, too late.

At least Revenge of the Fallen had the excuse that it was made during a writers' strike. Even Michael Bay himself doesn't look back fondly on it.

@jamesatkinsonja

Жыл бұрын

Given were in another writers strike you do wonder if history is going to repeat itself over the next couple of years with compromised products after a cycle of films being affected by Covid [no offense to the writers as they should be being paid properly].

20:43 I wonder if it's suposed to be a prentender Transformer reference

@5.00 SYMBOLISM*#@!!!!! Love you Film brain

Bumblebee was not a Camaro, it was vw beetle

@xgray2012

2 ай бұрын

Technically, Bumblebee turned into a Camaro at the end of his solo movie once he said his goodbyes to Charlie.

Also Film Brain their Humam charecters in the 80s tv show like spike and sparkplug, and also other human carectrs like amarda, and others.

Thanks for making this video! :D

I don't know where franchise gose from here. Don't get me wrong there fix a few things from Bay films. The human characters aren't super annoying, the product placement is practically non-existent and the action scenes are intelligible. But hope paramount don't panic and put Michael Bay back in the director's chair.

Transformers 1 and Dark Of The Moon are the best ones.

So sad to hear they can't seem to come up with anything to even begin to match a simple kid's cartoon that captured all of our imaginations. 🥺 Thank you for warning us in advance. I had hope when I saw Peter Cullen speak about the film, but now I'm just going to skip it.

At this point I'm just wondering why grown adults watch this series. It hasn't been good since the first one, and even the first one isn't very good.

@CalvinChikelue

Жыл бұрын

I feel that it’s at least on the base premise a story that has a lot of potential aka the idea of hidden alien warriors befriending humans & staying to stop a war. Not too far from ET plus high action. Hell the multiple recent Netflix Transformers animated projects IMO capitalize on giving the bots personality, character development & cool stuff to do. For some reason in live action it’s wild how few of these movies capitalize on the same things or if they do it’s fleeting junk food with a momentary great flavor you forget 15 minutes later (like how I feel about the recent Bumblebee movie). I think everyone who keeps going at least wants the chance to somehow see the potential in a lot of the comics & toons play out. Bay’s completely dismal execution for the first movies has seemed to just resign this whole franchise into the pit of seeing as maybe the 3rd or 4th blockbuster someone might watch during summer break instead of the MCU like status it could have.

@Dave175

Жыл бұрын

Some people like fun, I guess. Shocking, I know

@danculbert6349

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave175 What's fun about two hours of barely discernible robots smashing against each other for two hours? I saw the first one when it came out due to hype and saw the 4th one on an airplane and I have never been so bored in my life.

@Dave175

Жыл бұрын

@@danculbert6349 Well, the ones in this series that I like are Bumblebee and this new one for the most part, where those issues aren’t major factors. So yeah, they were fun.

@culwin

Жыл бұрын

Same reason people still eat McDonald's and Little Caesar's. People like crap.

For some reason, these terrible movies make big money. Especially in China. Last Knight grossed $130 million domestic, and $230 million in China.

Hehe. Monke.

🤤 "PromoSM"

You want more proof that we're living in the darkest timeline? That Netflix CGI reboot of My Little Pony is technically better than this big budget Transformers movie that doesn't have Michael Bay attached

Unicron doesn't even resemble a giant space-fart. So why even bother.

No predacons 0 out of 10.

They're STILL making these? Do we even have anything that could be called a current pop culture anymore? Anything that isn't a lazy regurgitated nostalgia cash grab?