A couple things: - This video is not meant to convince ppl to all of a sudden like it now; it's just me trying to provide a different perspective that I've held. YT titles tend to have to be more confident and absolute than the video actually is. If you still hate it or don't like it, 100% fine and thanks for watching anyway. - I don't think Energon as is is good, I think that it's good ideas executed in a not so well fashion, which is what I meant by the actually story trying to be told is good.

@prodimusfilms562

3 жыл бұрын

i think im pissing off paperplane in his discord server

@Neocrossfire

3 жыл бұрын

Review Cybertron! The ending to the unicron trilogy I love it so much.

@RoadRustle

3 жыл бұрын

On the schedule

@gojirafan0577

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would've forgiven energon's bad animation if it had likable characters and an engaging story

@nestaangileri2003

3 жыл бұрын

Dope informative vid. Transformers Energon was what got me into transformers toys as a kid and honestly I agree 100 percent wit what you said in the video. very accurate description of the show. If it was remade in modern times with a higher budget it would definitely be a banger show!!!

you brave soul

@coughboy2887

3 жыл бұрын

Hope he's not ripped apart by the sharkticons(literally everyone)

@drakedy2145

3 жыл бұрын

Energon Scorponok must get a repaint in the future maybe Transformers Legacy

@cjgaming1263

2 жыл бұрын

Hey least it's not robots in disguise ( 2015 )

@ayushtiwari2959

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjgaming1263 "Atleast it's not energon", "atleast it's not rid 2015", "atleast it's not beast machines"

@neilsharma8142

Жыл бұрын

Its comodin cam!

Transformers Energon did a great job with the allied human character designs. Kicker had the best body armor ever made for human characters. It was sharp and sleek with a Gundam stylized helmet.

@gannondollins

2 жыл бұрын

I made designs for a fan series and I used that armor for the human characters to battle side by side with the autobots. They basically functioned as iron man suits.

@justacrittic1578

2 жыл бұрын

I think the thing I really like about the suit is that it makes him fit in with the other transformers (while still clearly being human) I remember that really helped me like him as a kid, he seems like he's a part of the team rather than just a token kid they brought along for no reason.

@jagerzaku9160

2 жыл бұрын

It’s even better because he shares his English voice actor with Amuros English dub actor. Brad Swaile.

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, even Inferno and Prowl were my favorites since I'm a sucker for Police Cars and Fire Trucks besides Beast Modes.

@mr.end-game711

4 ай бұрын

fair, but I feel the comics written by Simon Furman did a better job making Kicker likable, shame we never go to see the comics finished

The hand drawn moments look so good they hurt.

@gojirafan0577

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah whenever the animation would shift to hand drawn animation it actually doesn't look that bad I'd even say it looks better than armada's animation

@alexlemonds2838

3 жыл бұрын

@@gojirafan0577 Actually I'd say it's on par with whenever Armada looked good. Think Optimus & Galvatron's last battle.

@frederickgrandison3609

3 жыл бұрын

Cgi though, no

@nathangitz2674

3 ай бұрын

@@gojirafan0577 That's what happens when ya pour your budget in those rare hand drawn shots.

@tyresehenry4176

3 ай бұрын

It's kind of a mixed bag, when it comes to animation for the Unicron Trilogy. Armada has pretty good 2D animation, but has some unfinished parts. Energon has not so great CGI, but pretty good 2D moments. And Cybertron with not half bad CGI. I'd personally pick Armada, unfinished parts and all.

There’s a reason why people say and agree on watching the JP versions of Armada and Energon over the West versions. The dialogue makes much more sense.

Good concepts and bad execution is soooo common everywhere like Age of Extinction with the humans destroying Autobots, or like Netflix trilogy which has LOTS of concepts that are barely developed. It's quite frustrating seeing good ideas that aren't executed well because the looked promising and made you hope to see more of that

I honestly feel that Energon would have been better at the time if it was hand-drawn animation along with some of the dialogue getting tweaked. From as much as I've seen from the show, Energon is a better sequel than Cybertron because hardly anything exciting happens in Cybertron in regards to the action, while with Energon the action feels impactful due to how much of a threat the Decepticons are still treated as.

@drakedy2145

3 жыл бұрын

I the Energon Deceptions with Powerlinx

@zemox2534

2 жыл бұрын

Cybertron was never meant to be a sequal. It was a standalone show in Japan but Hasbro wanted to create a trilogy so made it a sequal to energon and Armada in the west.

@heavy5013

2 жыл бұрын

@@zemox2534 it was only kinda a sequel. The previous 2 Series are never mentioned not their events based off anything I've seen. The only link being Unicron himself.

@heavy5013

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely tweak dialogue. It could have been great. And thew few times they used traditional hand drawn cell animation for the boys it'd of definitely looked better.

@Zap_Master99

Жыл бұрын

To be honest I would prefer in terms of story wise: If they did an mini arc on how the autobot and deception alliance was dwindling post-Unicron Battles, and after Megatron showed up. More on Unicron's mind once rebuilded he returned to his armada phase, he could've kept Megatron alive by slowing feeding on his hatred. Perhaps there should've been more of Hotshot's character development after armada, several more decepticon characters that weren't repaints of the original toy. The combiner teams weren't just ancient warriors, but actually a soldier project created by the Decepticons to rival the autobots superlink forms. We should've been able to see or learn of more Alpha' Q's planets, like are there residents? Oh of course Starscream and Alexis reunite, and Starscream's memories return, therefore he lives to no longer serve Megatron and perhaps the return to several of the minicon weapons, like the star saber and requiem blaster at least.

I didn't like how Demolisher, Cyclonus and Tidal Wave were handled in Energon, they at least could've built better connections with the Autobots and Humans after the events of Armada and even question their alliance with Galvatron which in my opinion would make them alot more interesting

@theredguy4043

Жыл бұрын

Tidal wave was awesome, but then they shrunk him down and made him gay for Megatron

@malcolmwhite2420

2 ай бұрын

Agreed.

You know, if they had kept the gorgeous 2-D animation for the entierty of the show and not rush the production process, I would've forgiven like, 70 percent of the show's flaws. And I feel like Energon probably the best (Or worse) case of fantastic concepts done poorly.

@Devastator21

3 жыл бұрын

Yh what this guy said ⏫

@taramullen6521

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with you those animated parts are some of my fave.

@kinnikuman-devilman_fan_2002

2 жыл бұрын

I even thought about making a Energon "buddy cop" spinoff of my own about Energon's Inferno and Prowl someday XD

I think oddly enough one of Energon's biggest weaknesses is that it feels disconnected from Armada. Despite the characters being the same. This is most apparent in the Decepticons with Cyclonus/Snowcat & Demolishor being reformated and becoming less serious, "though Cyclonus was always a bit of a loon", Starscream becoming mindlessly obedient, and Galvatron now desiring to revive Unicron after he fought in a war to stop him. However, the concepts by themselves aren't bad as you mentioned with the superficial comparison to Prime. This makes me think Energon would have been better off as its own thing rather than a sequel. However, that would have probably put its reputation in a similar area to RID 2001. Being mindful of character consistency and continuity alongside building the ideas present in Energon would have been a balance that if done right could have made Energon a cult classic.

@drakedy2145

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm I think they could do a Transformers Energon reboot during the Multiverse after that cliffhanger in The End of Kingdom

@mewmew2722

Жыл бұрын

I think the Transformers Energon should have a whole new storyline disconnected from Armada as a stand alone show.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Thing is, the decepticons as characters even in armada are consistent, Demolishor was really the only one who had the kind of depth regarding staying with the autobots or going with the decepticons. There is the misstep when he’s rebuilt but if there was a focus on how and why same with Starscream it may have been handled better. People thinking Starscream should’ve had shades of his armada self seem delusional, his resurrection was incomplete and he seemed to have no memories. An episode tackling the former relationship probably would’ve been enough but that’s all the attention it could’ve gotten considering the circumstances. Megatron’s changes feel close but corrupted, he is still an ambitious conquerer and seeing Alpha Q’s ability to control unicron thus sees that it’s possible to use a literal planet as an asset for his ambition not realizing the influence. Heck it’s basically a thread throughout the rest of the trilogy that unicron is corrupting Megatron twisting his ambition from conquest to become more destructive than ever. Energon shows the whole process with Cybertron’s beginning showing the end result as going into the sun and being reformatted again with Starscream between shows led to their characterization then due to Unicron’s lasting influence even in death. I argue that the shows can work together but bad communication and planning screwed what could’ve been the greatest 156 episodes of transformers into being great for the most part but messy in many ways. Imagining a tighter trilogy mostly everything is there and that’s good enough for me to revisit it for over a decade compared to the rest of the franchise

If the dub was more accurate to the original sub (example, with Demolishor telling Ironhide to remember him before he "died" instead of cursing Optimus for something he didn't do) I'd look back at it as fondly as I do with Armada and Cybertron, even with the stiff animation and, like you say, "shouty voice direction." Shockblast is still the highlight of the show for me.

@drakedy2145

3 жыл бұрын

Shockblast yeah

@trosclair434genus4

4 ай бұрын

Shockblast in energon, starscream in armada

Kicker’s father is like Shinji’s father. But overly happy.

@malcolmwhite2420

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I sure wished he returned in Cybertron.

I do have a bit of love in my heart for energon now. This video is wonderfully made, both in how you talk about the show and your editing.

@RoadRustle

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@DESTRAKON

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly bro it's a pretty cool story, though id recommend checking out the Dreamwave comics or Superlink so you really get the vision they were going for

One thing what WOULD’VE saved Energon was if the animation studio sticked to solely 2D hand drawn animation for both the humans and the Transformers like Armada

I have fond memories of Energon, after all it was the Transformers series I grew up with.

Diamondbolt: Sees title! Also Diamondbolt: FILTH!!

As someone who also has nostalgia for this show I think this brought up many great points but seeing Shockblast die again. I don't know why but when he died it was like TF Armada Starscream but more emotional because I really didn't care as much for Screamer

@AfterAllWeAreHuman

3 жыл бұрын

Well if you watched armada from the start like me it made starscreams death impact more. I felt sorry he had to go the way he did. They retconned him to a degree though and such and ruined his friendship with Alexis.

@Ryno-en4qp

3 жыл бұрын

I did watch all of Armada as well but I personally felt that Starscream was kinda overrated. Don't get me wrong his death was sad and all but Shockblast just appeals more to me and his death had more of an impact to me.

@AfterAllWeAreHuman

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ryno-en4qp hmmm. I did hate that they killed shockblast too. But yeah. Given the circumstances it was not as sad. But still an unfortunate event.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

@@AfterAllWeAreHumanthere aren’t any retcons though, they literally say Starscream was an incomplete resurrection with no memories and barely stable physical form. More Acknowledgement maybe would’ve been nice but there aren’t any retcons from what I can tel

Nice, a tf fan that's actually mature

@truexenith8596

3 жыл бұрын

A rare sight, but a welcome one.

Bro it's about time someone said it, I can see how it might not be palletable for some people so I'd recommend checking out Superlink, it's pretty mental. Galvatrons a straight up threat, Starscreams a quintesson mercinary that fights like Predator, kickers kinda like X where he hates his job but does it anyway for the greater good, and Roadbuster is basically tfp smokescreen but buff and I'm pretty sure girls would love Tidalwave cause he's just a big bear lol, I'm only up to episode 13 rn but id describe it as the 86 movie but all the iconic moments are twisted like Starscream posting up at Galvatrons spot and disintegrating him with his sword only for the latter to pull some genjutsu on him (not even making making this up), it's insane

@Webshooters1

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad it's hard to find Superlink subbed.

@DESTRAKON

3 жыл бұрын

@@Webshooters1 idk how it is for the app store but try downloading a few "watch anime" apps (that aren't Crunchyroll or Funimation) and look up transformers, the one I'm using is called Anime HD, hope this helps

@uberkirbeeh7954

3 жыл бұрын

You’re right on Tidal Wave. I still want a Titan Class TW and I will wait till the end of time for that and MP Armada Megs.

@rickV-zy6eh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Webshooters1 all the episodes are in YT now.

Still have my omega supreme DVD, this and Cybertron are what got me into this franchise. The biggest opportunity missed from Energon was not allowing Starscream to have an interaction with Alexis.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

One episode to cover that would’ve been great, nothing about redemption or joining the autobots but just acknowledgement and acceptance as the Energon Starscream isn’t Starscream, just a shell that looks like him resurrected to be an assassin (against Megatron and Optimus but we all saw how well that turned out) and would later on join his master in being corrupted by unicron by the time of cybertron

@malcolmwhite2420

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I see your point, but it looks like Alexis gotten over it for a long time.

i kinda wished that the show expanded starscream and his arc in enegon , not getting brainwashed by megatron and goin straight up g1 backstaber starscream.

@zemox2534

2 жыл бұрын

@@BasedVegeta Agreed. Energon was an uncessary sequal to a decent show

@aleaanderson6600

2 жыл бұрын

Or Starscream slowly regaining his memories and rejoining the Autobots, and Megatron creating an evil Starscream clone that would betray him in the next series.

@mfsusanoo7238

2 жыл бұрын

If you think tfc Starscream is like "g1 backstabber Starscream" then you didn't see Cybertron, they're nothing alike

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Don’t compare that joke of an imbecile with the absolute giga badass that is cybertron Starscream. He almost killed Galvatron, he fought god twice and survived and in the end he survived. Was basically a coin flip who would’ve won their final bout

I agree wholeheartedly. I didn’t watch Energon as a kid but I went back to watch it a few years ago and frankly, while I never found it to be the best at anything I did think that it had some great ideas that could have made for one of the best Transformers stories ever if they were given more time and attention. I’m the only person I know who likes Kicker. I thought his arc was interesting even if it wasn’t executed particularly well. And I always really liked Rodimus’ arc as well. It’s a shame that a lot of this show was screwed up by various factors cause there’s a lot of good here that I think is overlooked.

Your perspective on this show is great. You've made fantastic points on it. This show in concept has more substance to it ( it's done more justice in spuperlink version) than the Cyberton show. Thank you!

@RoadRustle

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@DESTRAKON

3 жыл бұрын

Also the dreamwave comics

Finally, *redemption.*

I loved this show as a kid and I’ll always hold a special place in my heart. I remember thinking Inferno’s turn to the dark side was peak storytelling. And Alpah Q was such a compelling and tragic character to me, I really had a lot of fond memories watching this show. In fact I still own the whole series on DVD

@DESTRAKON

Жыл бұрын

The individual characters were definitely the highlights of the show

@chatterbox7046

Жыл бұрын

Lucky, you got the dvds. Been trying to get my hands on them for a while

One thing I really like is how Hotshot Wised up in this show He kind of became The Autobot in terms of how Younger Autobots like Ironhide looked up to him Kind of makes me miss the guy

About time someone stands up for this show I really like this show the best thing about it is when the animation becomes 2d hand drawn which is super epic and that its version of galvatron looks so much like g1 galvatron and that it also features combiners and also omega supreme and also Rodimus who looks like g1 Rodimus and it also features a really epic battle that involves unicron and a giant optimus supreme and this show has much better continuity than the sequel Transformers: cybertron and the show has a really catchy soundtrack in it as well.

I think they should of used the 2d animation for the whole thing like armada

@aleaanderson6600

2 жыл бұрын

Out of the whole Unicron Trilogy, I think Energon has the best 2D animation quality.

I still like Energon and I'm a fan of Kicker. Sadly Energon was badly handled, though I loved the 2D Animation.

Something I'm not sure you've mentioned yet (thank you bad internet) is that Energon's budget was not as big as Beast Wars/Beast Machines. So while it they're both 3d, one of them gets the edge right away. There could also have been design philosophy differences between the companies responsible for the different shows. And yeah as someone mentioned there's a lot of difference between Energon's English dub and the original Japanese. Funny enough, the same is true of Beast Wars English and Japanese dubs from what I've heard. To keep the Beast Wars comparisons rolling; both it and Energon attempt to tackle some honestly mature topics; you could say that Animated does as well, and certainly Prime. The difference between Energon and them, like you say in the video, is the execution. Energon just falls flat on its face in a lot of ways from what I remember of the four episodes I watched of it.

@drakedy2145

3 жыл бұрын

I hope Energon Scorponok gets a Retool

This video has given me a new perspective on Tf Energon. I personally think the show would, Have looked better if it was done in 2d animation like armada. Because the 3d models can hit the uncanny valley at times. The 2d animated scenens in Energon look great so imagine, Whatever the entire show would have looked like if it was done in 2d The performances from David Kay and Garry Chalk are still great from what i saw of the clips in the video I also like to come up with orginal stories but i wont get into what i have come up with here. Because then we would be here all day Anyways this was a great video I mean

@taramullen6521

2 жыл бұрын

Stories, like fanfics? If so that's cool!

Energon is pretty painful but the 2D animation was very nice, I will admit that, and honestly the initial premise was pretty good, unfortunately the humanity & cybertronians vs unicron plot was thrown out almost immediately once Megatron was revived

As someone whose first interaction with Transformers was Energon, I very much appreciate this video. For almost 20 years I was worried my childhood show was horrible due to what I ended hearing from the overall TF community. However, my friends and I started a marathon of Energon, they've never seen it before, but they too heard people call it "the worst tf show". When they watched it, sure, we laughed at a lot of the derpiness(Especially Prime telling Kicker he's gonna send him back to his mother), but they loved moments like Demolishor's character arc at the beginning, and Wingsaber's development, not to mention the conflict between Optimus and Rodimus where they both wanted to achieve the same goal but their methods were complete opposites. Just wanted to conclude this comment by saying, Thank you for making this video, made me and i bet a lot of others really happy. 🙂

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Happy to know new people willing to give it a chance, don’t let opinions from sweaty early 2000’s nerds parroted ad infinitum dissuade you from trying things

You’re right the 2-D robot scenes are so good!

I grew up with the unicron trilogy and would rank it 1. Armada 2. Cybertron 3. Energon

I'll give Energon this: I'm glad it didn't forget about its human characters unlike RID 2015 that a had a single throwaway line about the children. And the roles they're given make sense like Carlos being in the space station and Alexis having a more diplomat like role because she always talked about perusing a career in politics. Also I'm glad they didn't do something along the lines like have Alexis and Rad get married and have a kid being babysat by the Autobots like they did with Carly and Spike in G1. With the exception of Billy and Fred of course but even the directors of Armada admit that they were meant to be written out of the show and it's not like they had any special connection to the Mini-Cons like the other 3.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Legit if they wanted to they could’ve had an expanded scene with Carlos where the 2 are working in the same space station as him and they’re passing by with a short conversation with Carlos. That’s all the acknowledgement they needed if they had to be acknowledged at all

Yeah, it wasn't that bad. It wasn't great but certainly wasn't that bad. Yeah, the story line was good in my opinion. The animation often hindered the story but oh well. I like Shockblast. Yeah, you have made a great video based on your point of view and that is great. Anyway, great video.

Finally, someone out there willing to put out the truthful word about Energon. I honestly agree with nearly every single point you make. And...I kinda sympathize. I was in a unique position as a kid. I grew up with a Dad who loves anime, mecha, sci fi, and especially Transformers. Ive been playing with those toys and watching G1 and Beast Wars since I was 5, and while I was alive for some of the greats when it comes to animation/toys, being the old RiD series with Skybite and Armada... I was a weird kid with ADHD and Autism. I didn't really register them. But my dad happened to torrent the pilot for Superlink, Energon in Japan, I was *mystified*. I still remember seeing Tidal Wave in the Asteroid Belt, seeing Kicker's Dad discussing what was Primus in that video, the shining light in that floor screen, and I was just...hooked. When it came out on TV, I was confused why it wasn't like G1, but I enjoyed it in a very kiddy way. ...And then I got to rewatch it in my late teens on dvd. And honestly...I loved it more. Its not perfect. Its still very flawed. But moments in the show still hit hard to me. And, gonna sound weird... But I think the CG animation does work very well in some places. In combat, attacks feel weighty. The wacky designs can clearly differentiate characters, and even the mass-produced Omnicons and Terrorcins. Punches have weight, the transformers feel *heavy*, and the very stiff animation does work in very dramatic ways. In the early episodes, where the Autobots see the aftermath of Megatron fighting Hotshot, just seeing him limp on the ground, and his disembodied arm *twitching*... Like, I have an Armada Hotshot toy with a weak shoulder socket that pops off regularly, and I deadass have childhood trauma from that scene. There's the jerky animation with Inferno's internal conflict becoming external, theres the transformation segments and powerlinx scenes, and I love the effects used for Starscream vanishing and going all wobbly, it's great. It is shaky a lot of the time, but not all of it. It doesnt have the sort of fluidity of Beast Wars and tbh Beast Machines(it was the first mostly cgi tf series since then), but at least the models dont A: Clip into each other half the time. And B: Go so incredibly far into the uncanny valley like Beast Machines that they come out looki g like the in-between stages on an Animorphs cover. Cybertron did really improve on Energon's animation style, but the cg in Energon was a much needed milestone in terms of animation. Also, I love the trope of "giant robots having to help raise a human kid", because Optimus really does try to be a second Dad to Kicker, and in that same vein, Kicker and Ironhide really do have a kind of brotherly relationship. I do wish that Misha was more of a character, though. She has a lot of potential, and I wish she wasn't sidelined for a fair amount of big story segments, and that she got more development. Sorry for rambling. Your video was fantastic, *your* cg animation looks fantastic, and thank you so much for making this video. You seem like a cool person, and if you read this, I hope you have a good day, and that your pillows are nice and cool when you next fall asleep. :)

The show was alright all of your points were really valid :D And I have (in a way) warmed up to energon mainly cus of the nostalgic feeling it gives me as it was made around the same time as shows like sonic x For me there are only two characters I like Sixshot and shockblast Shockblast was awesome and I enjoyed how he was locked up cus he went rouge And sixshot was cool That's kinda it but I did think it was adorable at the fact he broke out of jail and joins the deceptions to get revenge on the autobots for his big bro

Don't let Diamondbolt hear you say that!

Got to admit it, seeing Kicker (A character I don't really care for.) Hug Ironhide brought a smile to my face, it was kind of sweet.

honestly, after watching Armada and Energon, what they did to Starscream and what they did with Megatron in Energon was a massive mistake, like they didn't even watch Armada at all

@DESTRAKON

Жыл бұрын

Watch superlink bro, it makes a lot more sense than the English dub

@Furbit05

Күн бұрын

1-Micron Legend and Super Link were made by the same people. 2-Starscream in the Japanese dub of Energon is unrelated person named "Nightscream.

I've never forgotten the revival of Megatron *Megatron lives, Megatron lives, MEGATRON LIVES*

Energon's main sticking point is literally the medium. What's worse is that when they do break out the ol' 2D animation, it's GLORIOUS 😍 Of course this was that time period where EVERYONE was jumping on the 3D animation train 😩 If they had just held off [I mean, the humans are already 2D!](and actually made a real 3rd part to the Unicron trilogy instead of hijaking another untelated TF series and repurposing it) we'd be set

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Thing is, cybertron isn’t unrelated but was hastily rewritten to be unrelated

It’s a show with a lot of potential that was mostly wasted sadly.

@frederickgrandison3609

3 жыл бұрын

The designers rushed

I never knew people hated this. I loved it as a kid.

@taramullen6521

2 жыл бұрын

As a kid I knew there were people who didn't like the Unicron Trilogy, especially Energon. Never knew how much. And I was the same The Unicron Trilogy will always hold a special place in my heart. And I thought Energon was pretty good back then.

@DESTRAKON

Жыл бұрын

They don’t, they just talk shit cause everyone else is doing it.

One of the biggest positives I can give this series is the show gave us the first proper Galvatron figure.

I’m in the middle of watching the series. I..honestly don’t remember watching it despite seeing portions of Armada and Cybertron. My 2 thoughts: 1) The 3D animation is rough, the 2D is gorgeous, as others have said. But I have found the series quite enjoyable as I listen to it for work with little watching. Feels like an audio drama just without the narration in between dialogue. 2) Man, Snow Cat is sooooo annoying. I’m fully convinced (idk if it’s actually said later) that Megatron messes with their brains when he rebuilds them. Cyclonus to Snow Cat becomes more crazy, and Demolisher feels like he forgot his connections to Kicker and his time on Earth and became hyper focused on Megatron.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

2nd part is kinda the point I guess as seen with Starscream, reprogramming his soldiers to be loyal to him without the aspects that could make them betray him

It was part of my childhood, although I prefer the Japanese dub moreover than the English dub.

It had a really interesting idea. A Quintesson good guy, kinda, I mean at least with remorse, a tough not Autobot or Decepticon thing with Scorponok and the Terrorcons...then they went all in to the Tropes, and the animation sucked. I really wished the DW comics continued but alas.

I think this might have been my first transformers series. I have a very very vivid memory. I only remember the 3D models and the 2D animation standing out in my tiny mind.

Kicker had so much potential

@Kei-O_Bella

Ай бұрын

I know right, he's literally my favourite character even in English dub ‼️‼️

The Unicron Trilogy feels like it'd benefit the most from a remake. From Starscream being the loose cannon with a compelling storyline of his own. To the amazing lore of Unicron, the Omegalock, and Alpha Q. If G1 gets a pass due to animation and scripting issues, UT deserves the same.

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

If Takara could get the guys who animated their Shinkalion series it could happen but it’d need Hasbro to approve and this time keep tight communication and not making the 3rd show disconnected at the last moment before it aired when the American side planned and drew up an outline (I’m serious there’s images floating around that show the American side was planning cybertron before Galaxy force came out and the way everything lines up shows they’re hand was in the story, not an original Japanese creation)

Thank you. This show had genuinely wonderful ideas, just crushed by bad exactions.

Daimondbolt would strongly disagree. Though from his videos, it seems he utterly HATES Energon, like completely feels nothing but pure hatred. I have to disagree, it's not the best TF show ever, but it's decent, I'd have no problem rewatching it just like anything else that's Transformers, it does have some unique aspects to it that make it stand out from other TF series. And I do like the toys, lot of playability with them, just wish they had better articulation for the Autobots who can powerlink.

@mfsusanoo7238

2 жыл бұрын

Pov: a 20 something year old with the free time to get worked up over a random kids show from the early 2000's

@TheZamaron

2 жыл бұрын

@@mfsusanoo7238 That is literally how a lot of KZreadrs are. Find an old kids show and talk about if they like or hate it. Big deal.

Somehow until this video I never noticed that Energon Optimus's Black dominated colour scheme appears to carry on from the Amrada Powerlinx colours

The Japanese version, Superlink is the better one.

Totally agree, Energon is actually pretty good and I’m glad at least one positive review of it exists

@kidprime6863

2 жыл бұрын

Better than Combiner Wars

@mewmew2722

Жыл бұрын

The show is okay, but to me, it was rushed and repetitive.

I nEvR pUt A sOlDiEr In HaRmS wAY! Seriously tho I made an effort starting in 2019 to watch every American transformers cartoon. So far I’ve gotten g1, beat wars, beat machines, RID(2001), prime, animated, armada, energon, and just recently finished cybertron cause I got burnt out after energon (like seriously how many times can megatron go from megs to galv to back to megs in the next series then back to galv as if it never happened). I’ve seen the power of primes and the Netflix wfc cartoon so far. And IDW still beats all of it for me. Also I would argue that execution is more important than concepts. You can have a simple concept executed excellently and that makes up for the lack luster concept

The word of the day is: vindication

@robots_are_cool

3 жыл бұрын

@@BasedVegeta inhale scrotum

To point out, I didn't complain about Energon because I usally find the toyline alot cooler than the show in my unpopular opinion since I enjoyed Armada and Cybertron more imo. Then again Inferno,Prowl, and The Terrorcons are my favorite chracters in the Energon line since Prowl and Inferno have the coolest vehicle modes.

Kicker could’ve been better, but he was held back by trauma from Optimus as a kid when he fell into the core of Cybertron and met Omega Supreme. That made me wish that Optimus died to kill Unicron instead of Galvatron being like: *I’ll Fucking Do It Again*

I always like energon when I was growing up. The animation bothers me now but at the time I really enjoyed how the characters in the show transformed the same exact way that the real life toys did.

I was only able to catch this show a few times as a kid, and well I gotta say it did the job as a source of giant robots messing eachother up, I remember seeing just a part of an episode with starscream as a ghost and I’m just thinking, he can do that? Dope.

people talk trap about the optimus design but it is probably my most wanted transformer ever.

That moment you realize Kicker is the same voice as Light Yagami.

@RoadRustle

3 жыл бұрын

He just needs a potato chip when he’s throwing a tantrum; it’s like a snickers

@MisterX867

Жыл бұрын

And Ironhide is Ed from Ed Edd n Eddy lmao

Thank you honestly for this. This alongside Tf Cybertron were my introduction to Transformers. This is the place i ever heard about Inferno and I thought it was pretty cool. My child inside me kinda overlooked the bad animation and just enjoyed the show and it's ideeas. I kinda wish this got a remaster but just the same show, with decent walking animations and stuff like that. I kinda love the designs too, they are almost toy-ish.

@mfsusanoo7238

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the child inside you bro, it was the 2000s and these were robots that moved like stereotypical robots lol

Definitely gonna go and put effort into watching Energon again, keep up the great work Mark!

Ah, Kicker Jones, the Transformers version of Shinji. "Get in the Ironhide, Kicker, or Mica will have to drive him again"

@mewmew2722

Жыл бұрын

Here's an analogy: Kicker Jones: Shinji Ikari Misha Miramond: Rei Anaymi Sally Jones: Askua Soryu Langley

@Xeno-The-Wanderer

4 ай бұрын

Amuro Ray, same voice actor, earliest one to not want to fight in a mecha but because of his ability he has to or else the entire ship could get shot down. Shinji is guilted into fighting but Amuro is forced and dragged and guilted into fighting by a skeleton crew barely holding everything together

Welcome to the "Energon was the first Transformers show I've seen" club xD

@taramullen6521

2 жыл бұрын

Armada was the first for me. But I did and still kinda like Energon

@mewmew2722

Жыл бұрын

First transformers

The comic tie in was better than the anime

What's funny is that I was introduced to Bayformers and G1 before Energon (courtesy of my father who grew up with the original), while most others I've seen/met were introduced through the ladder. I found out about Energon when my dad bought one of the DVDs and brought it home. To this day, I am unsure if he thought it was G1 and bought it by accident or if he was curious about the newer show... And to tell ya the truth... while I lean more towards SORTA disliking Energon, I still have a soft spot for it. My brother and I, even as grown, goofy a55 adults now, still quote and make fun of this show very regularly... and deep down it's a guilty pleasure to watch it [specifically episodes 33-36. Those were the only episodes we had on disk as kids, and I didn't have cable much growing up... so I often had box sets of my favorite shows] Though, tbh, Energon is what opened me up to Transformers even more. Had it not been for Energon, I may have never found Armada, Beast Wars, and my two most personal favs, Animated and Prime. I appreciate what it brought to the table, and even though it's not my favorite, and CERTAINLY not the best... I still kinda enjoy it. (Also, can someone validate my crazy love for the 2D animated, cell shaded scenes in Energon? Oooooh my GOD, it's just so... BEAUTIFUL! It just LOOKS so MMM!! The torture scene with Inferno was SO powerful when animated with so much LIFE and expression, and even the small tidbit with Ironhide and Kicker during "Crash Course", and Megatron being overtaken by Unicron? I love it SO MUCH! I only wish the whole series could've been animated like that.)

Youre right this show was suprisingly more mature than i suspected. But for me nothing can conpare to starcreams Storyark in Armada (Sorry😅 ).

I'm still not over that Kicker got 2 toys but Sari still doesn't even have a R.E.D figure of her armor form

I was introduced to energon by the return of megatron DVD episodes and I was like 3 I fell in love with it. Later I got to watch the whole series later probably around 16 and when I watched it then and now I watch it like I'm a 3 years old, I don't really care about the animation I just enjoy the story.

Transformers Armada was my first transformers show. As a kid I remember liking Energon because it was still transformers show. Looking back on it it had a lot of potential interest character arcs and themes but was not executed properly. I’ll be on honest Energon comic book series unfortunately was canceled but was really good

Have you ever seen the lost episode (not creepypasta) Scorponok's Scars? It's easily the best episode in the series but for some reason was never dubbed

@RoadRustle

3 жыл бұрын

I have and I agree; it's a good ep that fills in an important part of the story.

That Muck Raker rolling around was amazing lol

Energon had something I always like to see in TF fiction, Autobots uplifting humanity. Look at the human tech in Armada then look at Energon. Optimus and the gang elevated humanity into a spacefaring race, that could’ve been the show right there. Optimus the statesman is always a treat.

I never got to watch Energon but I did had an opportunity to watch its Japanese counterpart Superlink. I guess the English dub based some clips I've seen of Energon were a bit overboard compared to Armada. I would agree on the animation as its fault but at that time I guess I was OK with it probably because of being exposed to the Zoids anime series back in the day. I get that they were trying to experiment and stuff but I guess it didn't worked well with Transformers. While some ideas were great along with new characters, some got sidelined or dramatically changed like with Starscream and others like Wing Saber got sidelined a bit after Omega Supreme. I agree that this show with have been better considering that this series as the homages to a lot Transformers characters.

It feels less of a sequel and more of its own continuity. Considering how the Decepticons were handled, really hindered it for me...at least they could've made it Skywarp instead of Starscream, but more a twisted incarnation by Megatron's own vision.

@caden141

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually funny because I called energon starscream skywarp and view him as a seperate character especially since in the Japan version he is called nightscream and has no relation to starscream!

@Jetblast01

Жыл бұрын

@@caden141 See, now THAT would make more sense! And be a different character like Dinobot 2 wasn't the actual Dinobot (until Rampage died, but that got confusing). It'd make sense that Galvatron's twisted memory of Starscream retain some of how he was actually like, but not truly him.

Great video man, really gave me a brand new perspective on this entire series

I like Transformers Energon TV show it's a really good Transformers show. Transformers Energon is really a good Transformers show.

Oh god, I'd forgotten how Shockblast died, that shit was traumatizing, haha

The only interesting character in Energon is Misha. If Energon was re-told or if there was a new show, Misha should be the main human protagonist in a new Transfomers cartoon or comic because she comes off as more introspective, existential and altruistic. I can see her being able to talk to the Autobots about their overall place in the world and how fragile civilization really is. Hell, maybe Misha could initially have hold of the All Spark and gain the knowledge of millions of years of Cybertronian history. If Kicker was to be involved, he could be a villain because despite how you describe him, Kicker comes off as an abusive boyfriend and a massive hypocrite by hating authority while simultaneously taking pleasure in hurting others, possibly siding with the Decepticons, maybe even the one who killed Misha's parents. In the end, Kicker becomes pure evil and Misha must kill him by cutting off his source of power (a mech, dark energon, whatever) and she can finally get some closure. Misha doesn't matter because it's always about the Transformers but if she still deserves a better chance.

@mewmew2722

Жыл бұрын

I love this idea. In my version. Before her death of cancer, Misha's mother, an archaeologist, discovered a mysterious crystal in a ancient Mayan pyramid and gave it to Misha as a 6th birthday present. Her father is an Energy researcher along with Jessica and Connor's parents and Professor Jones until the explosion on Alcatraz island. The explosion caused a shockwave reaching towards the trio and causing Misha's necklace to shatter into five shards Two of the shards went to Jessica, which allows her the ability of "Spidey Sense" and farsight, and Connor, which allows him also "Spidey Sense" and Super strength, and the energy inside the crystal went inside Misha, Which allows her to sense Energon deposits and see projects of Solous Prime, Alpha Trion Nexus Prime and Micronus Prime. What do you think of this one?

For all its faults, I would much rather watch Energon than Beast Machines, RID 2015, the Prime Wars Trilogy and the Netflix Trilogy.

I mean if they just killed off kicker people would have been happier about the show

@mewmew2722

11 ай бұрын

How about replacing Kicker with Misha.

As a kid I couldn't wait for this to be on before I went to sleep in the evening. It had an atmosphere, memorable story arks, while I agree that the animation looks dated today. Overall it was a good time as kid and they did manage to sell me some of their toys that's for sure.

I honestly didn't mind the 3D animation for the transformers I thought it was neat when I was a kid I still hold it in the same light...well kinda I think it looks nice it doesn't feel stiff or clunky to me but that's just my opinion also...I never liked Megatron's robot form in Armada I think he looks fucking ridiculous

@RoadRustle

2 жыл бұрын

completely fair, i just wasn't able to look past it honestly

I think you might have angered the Diamondbolt.

I'm going through my tf marathon and I know energon will be on the list, but I do think a bit of a rewrite for the series including a bit of polishing up the script. It could be better, but I do have a story with kicker in my version of transformers. If you want to know more, I'm open for conversation.

1:41 Bro, you just unlocked a Core Memory…

It had some moments that were good.

I never thought I'd say this, but after watching your vid, I am actually considering giving TF Energon another chance.

Shockblast acts more like other versions of Starscream, then Shockwave.

Even now I see Energon as my gateway series to Transformers. If the localization team had been more careful and respectful with importing the show and not rushed the development, it could have been spectacular. The sheer number of inconsistencies, agressive push to make old characters assume new appearances to promote new and not always improved Transformers, missing or incompleted reels of content rushed in from Japan and the subsequently erratic pacing and dropped plots is mostly from a desire to roll out toys at breakneck pace. However, Energon got the double whammy of being squeezed into a 6AM weekday timeslot after becoming a magnet of criticism, and it came out right before KZread hit the scene and the burgeoning online video player media presence made subs and the original Superlink more accessible. It's not the perfect show, but it got me through my nana's passing, and I'll be grateful for that.

Even tho Energon probably isn't as vomit-inducing as people make it out to be, it's still cringe-inducing in how the writers walked back on literally everything that made Armada compelling despite its own shortcomings. The revival of Starscream and the reformatting and personality wiping of Demolisher, Cyclonus, and Tidal Wave were particularly agregious. Hell, the show even walked back on its own shit. It was too afraid to commit to anything substantial that it introduced, like Wingsaber and Shockblast's rivalry or Inferno's sacrifice. Also legit powerlink combining never really provided any tactical advantage whenever it was used. The top half still used the same guns as the individual robot prior to combination. There were no obvious buffs, and reducing one of your soldiers to a pair of pants honestly just makes things worse in the grand scheme of things. Obv plot dictated that superlinking made them strongerer, but it was always told to us and never properly shown to us. That soundtrack was killer tho. Very spicy stuff. 👌

I think part of the reason Energon is so hated is because it presents some great and tantalizing ideas before failing to execute them. The fact that so many of these build off of the second half of Armada doesn’t help, since that’s where Armada hit its stride and started churning out great stories. Energon didn’t simply commit the sin of being bad, it sinned by not fulfilling its potential.

i loved this show as a kid but when I rewatched it again a few years ago... It felt like a slog to get through it and I was sad to realize it wasn't as good as I remembered... didn't help that I only watched a few episodes due to only having DVDs that had 4 episodes per purchase

Frankly, when I looked back at the show not too long ago, it surprised me how mature the ideas were. And how interesting the parts where it landed coudl get. It's just the execution and production of those ideas were what made it one of the worst shows the franchise has put out.