Solidarity with Kathleen Stock.

@G-host0069

Жыл бұрын

Yeh I like him, looks like a top bloke

@mark861

11 ай бұрын

Are you a communist ?

@moraymac2922

11 ай бұрын

@@G-host0069 Professor Stock is female. Like me she doesn’t swan around in dresses and heels. Women don’t have to if they don’t want to. Some women don’t even have long hair or wear lipstick!!!! Incredible isn’t it?

@G-host0069

11 ай бұрын

@@moraymac2922 he’s a female?

@moraymac2922

11 ай бұрын

@@G-host0069 She.

The dishonesty of trans activists is breathtaking and will backfire as it makes people angry and less sympathetic.

@garyorourke4524

Жыл бұрын

They are literally dishonest to themselves, looking at their coc in the mirror and saying "I'm a woman". Scary really.

@machellovelivelife658

Жыл бұрын

yup, real homophobia and transphobia is about to make a comeback...all they had to do was leave kids alone, and my their business. Just as the gay community did, they wanted to participate in society not disrupt/tear it down and displace ppl out of their own categories and spaces.

@swoopingdeath1717

Жыл бұрын

What dishonesty?

@moraymac2922

Жыл бұрын

@@swoopingdeath1717 The delusion that mammals can change sex.

@paulinskipukprogressive4903

Жыл бұрын

@@machellovelivelife658 prove your disgusting lie about trans people harming children

They are full of lies. Kathleen Stock does not deny their existence. No one is banning trans individuals from playing sport. Comparing the trans movement to race is nonsensical. They always dismiss women’s fear of men in single sex spaces as though women are so irrational for fearing men - it’s obvious they don’t care about women’s safety anyway!

@paulhoughton1691

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see if they would "deny" the existence of black people if they were trans racial. Most street interviews I have seen are not on-board with trans racial ideas.

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhoughton1691 yes, but then you have the drag queen scene, am not sure how it plays out but am sure it has relevance in some way.

@paulhoughton1691

Жыл бұрын

@@annereidy7981 Is drag considerd trans? I'm not sure it is.

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhoughton1691 me neither, but when I look into it I still can't find clarity because the makeup seems to play a big part?

@paulhoughton1691

Жыл бұрын

@@annereidy7981 I think imight fall under Autogynephilia "Autogynephilia is defined as a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female"

"I haven't read Kathleen Stock's book" but it "isn't exactly of the highest calibe", about sums up the argument. They're a collection of wilful ignoramuses demanding that everyone else should be kept ignorant too.

@howardjones7370

Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainRedwood : Have you?

@henryblunt8503

Жыл бұрын

@@howardjones7370 I have, but that isn't relevant. If I hadn't *my* remark would still make sense. The quotation I'm holding up for ridicule would still be ridiculous even if I couldn't read at all.

@howardjones7370

Жыл бұрын

@@henryblunt8503 Henry, my response was to Tom Darbyshire, who has since removed his comment, I agree with you entirely

@zulaikalondon

11 ай бұрын

This movement runs on misogyny, violence, gaslighting and deliberate ignorance.

@henryblunt8503

11 ай бұрын

@@howardjones7370 👍

No one has read her book! Absolutely mental.

@icdgyixifyinstereo

11 ай бұрын

Reality is not on their agenda.

To conflate trans with black and Jewish is a total affront to those groups.

@mcjunk

Жыл бұрын

@Louis giokas exactly. Why are you trying to compare blacks to trans?? 😂😂😂

@sarahboakes6392

Жыл бұрын

Here here totally agree with you

@louisgiokas2206

Жыл бұрын

@@mcjunk Minority groups. I have directly experienced the use of identity politics by Democrats in the US when dealing with high level party operatives. Unfortunately, I was not a member of an oppressed minority, so I was informed that I could not take advantage of my ethnicity or group identity when trying to game the system.

@mcjunk

Жыл бұрын

@@louisgiokas2206 as a black person I am offended of the comparison made by this person. We do not choose to be black. There is no trying to change people's language because we are black, I do not feel anyway, I just am black. Black is not my identity it's my nature. Being Trans is a gender identity, a choice to transition...not a natural state. They just cannot compare both. Same goes for being Jewish.

@louisgiokas2206

Жыл бұрын

@@mcjunk Fully agree. I am not black, but I have seen the racism close up. Growing up, one of my father's colleagues and good friends was black. I thought nothing of it. Many years later I had a business in a rural area in the Midwest. I hired a firm to do HR. It happened to be owned and run by a black man. We were both from the "big city". He hired a white woman locally to be the on-site representative. She then came to me an tried to get me to drop him and hire her directly. I told him and he fired her, which was the right thing to do. She sued him, and I had to testify. She lost. The thing is, I had been included in the local economic development council. The things I heard at those meetings were very disturbing and racist. And that was in the current millennium.

What a nonsense she has never called into question trans peoples existence

@monkofmayhem1373

Жыл бұрын

The only people bringing up trans people’s existence is these trans activist groups. Nobody else is saying they dont exist.

@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar

Жыл бұрын

It is arguable that saying trans women are not women comes pretty close.

@knightsnight5929

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar That is because they aren't. End of chat. When you can change a person's chromosomes get back to me.

@Jammet

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that there is something someone wants to take away from me, being trans, it's just a fine line, a very fine line between accepting that there are still differences, or not, but that fine line is a huge deal to many, yet poses an incredible amount of problems to many other. It is like being siblings, being twins, ... I can't claim that I am my sister. I can be identical to her, but I am not her.

@sellingacoerwa8318

Жыл бұрын

it's called a narrative

The self-righteous, pompous individual at 3:45 is unbelievable. He's asked if he has read Kathleen Stock's book and admits that he hasn't. However, he tells us that he is an academic in the field of gender and sexuality studies and as such is "very widely read on these topics". He then states categorically that a book he hasn't read "isn't of the highest calibre". If he is an example of academics these days, then standards in the UK universities have dropped.

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

Yes, as I say, they say one thing and do the opposite. Not the most reliable group to listen to for reasoned argument.

@cymruisrael

Жыл бұрын

@@annereidy7981 And then he produces his killer argument - the idea that trans-women are a danger to women and women's rights has been put forward by right-wing parties!

@eggmammal

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. It's absurd. Hasn't read the book but breezily states "It's not of the highest calibre". How would he know?

@RobynLeSueur

Жыл бұрын

It's not an academic book, nothing she's written on the subject has passed peer review, and her qualifications are in English fiction, not anything remotely related to the subject. Why on earth would an academic in the field read her book? It's like saying you can't know Twilight doesn't have valuable insights into the field of chemistry if you haven't read it.

@LoudMinded

Жыл бұрын

​​@@RobynLeSueurWhat an analogy! Stock is a philosopher, just as Judith Butler is. Do you think that person read Time to Think: The Inside Story of the Collapse of the Tavistock's Gender Service for Children?

Why do they keep saying their existence is being debated? That's a lie! No one is saying that trans women do not exist; they are saying that trans women, having been born male, are NOT the same as women born female. And the law needs to reflect that basic biological fact.

@barrysteven5964

Жыл бұрын

It really is as simple as that.

@Gingerblaze

Жыл бұрын

Precisely. "Trans- women" are not any type of women. They are actually a type of men.

@theeperson3764

Жыл бұрын

Law reflecting bioloigcal sex erases their existence Using the piece of meat stuck to your crotch (which is literally just the exact same structure for both sexes but inverted) to label someone and make presumptions about their entire identity is really dehumanising and does not allow people to truly speak about and express their experience of life as supposed to the brain, which is responsible for the entire identity, personhood and consciousness of the organism.

@ohwellwhateverr

Жыл бұрын

@@Gingerblaze I refuse to call them “trans women”. They are trans-identifying men. Or TIMs for short.

@megazw7740

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree. It is important that there is a distinction in law and where the parameters of those distinctions lay.

These are academics? God help us all. They haven’t even read her book. We are doomed.

@daveberry2177

Жыл бұрын

we need to bring back national service,

@ddp8972

11 ай бұрын

As simple as that. P E R F E C T. 💯👍🙂

@megazw7740

11 ай бұрын

They self ID as academics.

@ddp8972

11 ай бұрын

@@megazw7740 ooooh that's good! 🤣

@megazw7740

11 ай бұрын

@@ddp8972 I thought so 😁🤭🤣

The person at the start says If we were to debate black and Jewish existence there would be an outcry. Weird that they've forgotten how trans activists are debating women's existence.

@janeking9540

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! 🤔

@moraymac2922

Жыл бұрын

They don’t even see their own misogyny.

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

How are they debating women's existence? And wouldn't that mean they are also debating men's existence? Or did you forget that trans men exist?

@bloodboughtbigphilr8266

Жыл бұрын

Being trans is a conditioned choice. Being black or Jewish (in ethnic not religious context) are immutable. While I deplore injustice or unfairness towards anyone, the trans issue can't in essence be simplistically conflated to what black and Jewish people have had to often experience.

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 How is being trans a choice? The choice is, transition or die.

"You're not a woman" Every Trans Ever: "Sooo....you're saying that I don't exist?"

@ejd5261

Жыл бұрын

It shows how their cross-sex identity has become their whole sense of self, and choked out every other facet of who they are as a person.

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

Yes it seems to be so.

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

No it’s because the scientific evidence that That gender dysphoria is a real thing But people stopped Listening facts a long time ago they just listen to what the papers tell them to say

@leedarkin-miller3591

Жыл бұрын

@@professorpigeon6517 Gender dysphoria IS a real thing, obvioulsy. But kids aren't transitioning b/c of dysphoria. They've been fed the lie that they can CHOOSE which sex to live as. Gender ideology is the problem. It's spreading lies. It's poisoning the well.

@LonelyCinderella123

Жыл бұрын

​@Professor Pigeon Gender dysphoria does not change ones sex. The cosmetic procedures offered to such individuals don't either. Humans are of two sexes and as with other mammals they're unchangeable.

This is not about THEIR rights. It’s about the rights of others!

@WooWoo-co4jf

Жыл бұрын

If his a cooling session is be using it, well said! I don't see anyone there being intimidated, screamed out, making loud noise when they try to speak, pushing, jostling, screaming inches from their face, violently physically attacked, threatened with violence, called ridiculous names, told that they hope they stop breathing, sexually assaulted....and the rest. All while police stand by and allow it. It's showing exactly where the problem is! The whole people want to ki** is bs, we don't, I just want women's and girls rights for us to keep us safe.

@CC-hx5fz

Жыл бұрын

I don't see any of the protesters caring much or taking any responsibility for the harm they've done done to others, including the majority of trans people who had been quietly getting on with their lives for decades.

@kiaq1153

11 ай бұрын

But what if others rights intrudes upon their rights

@Alices.last.warning

11 ай бұрын

@@kiaq1153 like them intruding on womens rights and womens spaces?

@Alices.last.warning

11 ай бұрын

@@scottscotty2537 💯agree!

Trans people are not banned from sport, nor is their existence being debated.

@euanmacleod3738

Жыл бұрын

They are being banned from multiple professional sports, and rightly so. The more wild thing is that they were permitted to compete to begin with.

@LH-kr4od

Жыл бұрын

​@@euanmacleod3738 they're not banned from the sport, just the wrong sex category.

@euanmacleod3738

Жыл бұрын

@@LH-kr4od Pedantic, but correct. They are being banned from the sex category they are intending to compete in - which for the most part refers to women's professional sports.

@pseudonamed

11 ай бұрын

Exactly.. nobody is saying they don't exist or can't play sports, they're just debating how society should make choices about when and how to segregate groups of people and whether a group of people with a shared characteristic (i.e. being female) should be allowed to have some things reserved for themselves if they want.

none of the protesters’ arguments have logical backing; it’s all an appeal to emotion

@moonboy2022

11 ай бұрын

Leftists and logic? Durrrhhhh

A bunch of fetishists have taken over society. We live in a mad world. There are a few women (and men such as Graham Linehan) who stand up to this cult, despite the cancellation, death threats and destroyed careers. We have a duty to support them and lobby our politicians, institutions and businesses/companies who finance this cult to stop this! #HandsOffOurChildren #WomensRightsAreHumanRights #FreeSpeech #Democracy #SexNotGender #IStandWithKathleenStock #IStandWithJKRowling #IStandWithJoannaCherry

@mjones4083

Жыл бұрын

Indeed - and fetishists that are coming for our children - that is the wicked/evil aspect that horrifies and disturbs me most . As an adult I can tell them to take a run and jump but children are vulnerable to them .

@bruce8359

11 ай бұрын

just a load of transvestites easy

@renbakes5083

8 ай бұрын

There are those for sure, but there are vulnerable people being convinced they are trans, when in actuality they are autistic, bpd, body dysmorphic, etc. And instead of protecting these individuals, our governments are complicit.

It's not just about trans rights and I wish these activists would actually realise this. It's about the rights of others, and especially of women. Women exist too. Historically marginalised and oppressed, not because of how we dress, but because of our sex. The question is whether self-defined gender identity should dictate society and override sex as a category. I would say that if a man says he is a woman, and women can't help but still see a man, that they shouldn't be criminalised for this. It's hard not to see this gender identity movement as profoundly misogynistic.

@NE6MAFIA

11 ай бұрын

Ive never seen the trans debate summed up so well, its awful that even making this point can often be enough to be ostracised. whilst trans people may not choose their gender identity they do choose to display it. this is a luxury not afforded to women, ethnic minorities and gay people. identity is not self determined, it is a result of how society perceives you.

200 people turned up to protest. There's 23,000 students at Oxford University and 160,000 people living in Oxford. This is the noisiest minority on the planet.

Ridiculous interviews here apart the elderly gender-critical couple

It’s time this ridiculous ideology was binned. State of debate in universities seems to be appalling

At no point has she wanted to debate their existence. They need to read her book. All this gleeful self glorying righteousness is utterly pointless, as well as cruel, because she’s not saying what they say she’s saying. Tilting at windmills. If anything it’s the other way round.

None have read the book. But want to silence it

@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar

Жыл бұрын

I haven't read Mein Kampf, but I know I'm agin it. I haven't read the whole of the Qur'an but I know it's fundamental claims are nonsense. I've never read a Tory manifesto, but I know the only way I'd vote for them would be if the choice was between them and and out and out fascist.

@patricklee6206

Жыл бұрын

Well good for you. What a scholar you turned out to be. A real asset to the human race.

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

I’ve read her book it makes no sense her argument essentially is that yes the majority of science says trans people exist but some people used to think that was a flat it’s an odd argument

@stevenicol1

10 ай бұрын

​@@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillarperhaps you should learn how to read then.

These dudes in dresses are getting out of hand.

@manchegocheese997

Жыл бұрын

Errr, I think you mean; "these beautiful women with penises are getting out of hand"!

So...they haven't read the book yet are protesting about it?😂

@chrisbaker3066

Жыл бұрын

Have you read the book?

@Charlotte66666

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbaker3066 Have you?

@knightsnight5929

Жыл бұрын

​@@chrisbaker3066no, but I am not protesting the author

@nikkioshea4139

Жыл бұрын

​@@chrisbaker3066 I've read the book and I completely agree with Kathleen Stock. These protesters haven't read the book but will protest because their cult informs them that she is the enemy. These are mentally ill individuals and I for one do not wish my daughters or any woman to have to share a toilet, changing room or other Women only space with them. Men, with intact Male genitalia professing to be women are severely mentally ill, having that genitalia removed may improve their mental stability but given their male superior strength I'd still be uncomfortable. I do not hate trans people, I do feel compassion for them but I do not want to lose my rights as a woman.

@chrisbaker3066

Жыл бұрын

@@knightsnight5929 No , you are protesting the protesters! You have no more understanding of what is in that book than they do so why comment and decry their actions? They believe that the book contents are against their interests based on previous statements from the author. Have you followed the author before you criticized the reaction to her? Have you watched her videos?

"Most trans women I know are very sensitive, very caring, very loving." No very sensitive, very caring man would breech women's boundaries. (why would we care how loving the man is who is invading our spaces) It is irrelevant how small the number of r@pists is, we can't tell which men they are, no matter what they are wearing or how long their hair is . Not trying to 'belittle' women, but calling them hysterical because he can't be in an enclosed space where we are vulnerable and in a state of undress. He demonstrably proves that he has no understanding of what it is to be a woman. Scapegoat, my @rse!

i'm afraid they're getting the argument wrong. stock isn't saying that trans people shouldn't exist, she's saying that trans men aren't women.

@Subher0

Жыл бұрын

That is denial of their existence, because trans women are women. I don't go around saying black people are white, or white people are black. That is akin to denying the existence of black/white people.

@knightsnight5929

Жыл бұрын

And she is 100% right

@robwilliams668

Жыл бұрын

Shes saying trans women aren't women

@aethellstan

Жыл бұрын

@@robwilliams668 if a man is dressing as a woman and still has his "bits" then he can't be a woman. if he has physically changed via a series of operations then he is a woman

@howardjones7370

Жыл бұрын

@@robwilliams668 : Because they’re not!

Stop lying. Stock isn't debating anyone's "existence". She's actually very publically on record supporting trans rights and equality and protection under the law. She's never argued trans people aren't real or are just mentally ill. She's simply a feminist who believes that hard fought women's rights cease to exist if women are no longer anything more than a feeling you have at any point in time. That the female gender isn't real. Its absolutely insane that anything she's saying is now being portrayed as provocative or controversial. The people in this video are mostly not even trans, they're just deeply mysogyistic gay men in drag.

Its not about trans peoples "exsitence" its about biological womens right to manintain their own spaces. The trans community need to LISTEN, and RESPECT biological women and girls. Transwomen still display mysogyny and agressive behavior which biological women don,t have thats why we NEED SAFE SPACES. Stop trying to trample on those you say you "feel like," because you will never be a woman. wear your dresses and lipstick, women don't care about that but stop INSULTING and OFFENDING us.

Please sit down and listen to what Dr. Kathleen Stock has to say ! Open your minds ! Don't give all transgenders a bad name !

MEN WILL NEVER BE WOMEN, LOONO

NO ONE is saying trans people shouldn’t exist. NO ONE is saying trans people can’t partake in sports. And NO ONE is advocating for violence towards trans people. Personally, I don’t think it’s right that other people are forced, by society and law, to play along and pretend a man is a woman etc. How many people have been threatened, cancelled, sacked and abused so far? Too many.

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

Mhmm....the BBC had article debating whether trans people are predators where the person had interviewed was openly calling for trans people to be "lined up against the wall and shot". The article also didn't include any trans people whatsoever. Ironically, this person also had been accused of sexual offences themselves. This is common place. If I started accusations that you're a predator and prey on children, do you not think people might start getting upset at you? Do you not think I should face repercussions if I did that?

@upnorth2421

Жыл бұрын

@@abigailhex1022 you seem to ignore the fact that there are violent, predatory people. Maybe you have never encountered them? If everyone can change their legal gender then anyone can. "No gatekeeping" can become no safekeeping. How do you know if someone is a peaceful transwoman or a predatory opportunist claiming to be one? Besides, 41% of transgender females in UK prisons are there for sex offends. Not wanting any males in female spaces is not an accusation towards every man. It is just taking care of safety of women. Every year over 100 women are killed by a man in the UK alone. There must be a space to discuss womens safety.

Oh man, I’m sick of these weirdos and their constant need for attention

"...no danger to women..." , "...no problem in sports..." say the males

When that young lady says "I'm here to support my brother"....We don't actually know what that means.....Is it a brother/brother or a sister that thinks she is a brother? Isn't that a problem? Language is being destroyed reality is being ripped apart.

@daveabrahams-edley6799

Жыл бұрын

Your reality is apparently being ripped apart. Trans people, both men and women have every right to equality. Not every trans person goes through or wants to go through gender dysphoria. It's not about what bit you have downstairs but as you point out you are not a biologist. You clearly know nothing about this and feel threatened by something that has no impact on you whatsoever.

@moraymac2922

Жыл бұрын

@@daveabrahams-edley6799 What human rights do trans not have?

@Gingerblaze

Жыл бұрын

@@daveabrahams-edley6799 Kathleen Stock is not denying Trans identified peoples exsistence. She is opposing the claim that they are women. "Trans - women" are not any type of women.They certainly exsist. But they are, in fact, a type of men. Why can some not accept that reality?

@c.m5043

Жыл бұрын

​@@daveabrahams-edley6799 it has quite an impact on regular folk. For one it keeps appearing all over my damn news feed.

@ohwellwhateverr

Жыл бұрын

@@daveabrahams-edley6799 “Trans” people already have equal rights to the rest of us. What they’re demanding are privileges - having their rights regarded as MORE important than everyone else’s. As women, we have the right to access changing facilities, bathrooms, hospital wards, etc. which are exclusively single-sex. We have that right not just for comfort or dignity’s sake, but also for our safety, and in the case of sports competitions, for fairness too. Why? Because men and women are physically different. And those differences matter. I can’t believe I actually have to explain this to you. You’re feigning ignorance of biology that is 2 billion years old. Sexual dimorphism is so fundamental to human beings and mammalian species in general because it was one of the very first things to evolve; it even precedes our nervous system. Either you’re delusional or you’re trying very hard to maintain a lie. That must be exhausting for you. Being truthful is so much simpler.

I can't see those guys as anything but guys. My brain knows what it knows. So if I come across them in a vulnerable situation I'm going to be as cautious as I would around any other man.

@4Kandlez

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, none of them look, move or sound like women, they look grotesque

It's amazing how often these trans activists keep saying things like, "If we debated black rights there would be outrage! If we debated jewish people there would be outrage!" The ignorance is astounding. We DID DEBATE those things. FOR YEARS. Just like we debated gay rights. The Civil Rights and Gay Rights movement represent decades worth of debate on policy, law, and constitutional rights. And I'll tell you, when gay people made their bid for the legalization of gay marriage they had to EXPLAIN why not granting the right was against the Constitution and also explain why the granting of homosexual unions was beneficial and not detrimental to society. They didn't get to stand up in front of the Supreme Court and answer the question with, "Because that's Homophobic! Our rights aren't up for debate!" You have to prove what you want isn't detrimental to society. Trans people want rights, but they have to EXPLAIN how saying you're a woman magically makes you a woman. They have to explain why your mother, daughter or sister has to be exposed to male genitalia in a woman's locker room. They have to justify how allowing trans athletes to beat all the records of biological woman in sports is not unfair to them. But you notice they have no answers to these things. Their only strategy is to shut down debate or scream "transphobe!" or "bigot!" And the fact that they can't even create or define a parameter - is trans dysmorphia? or is it fluid? How does the constructed non-binary label fit into these rights? Does one have to be actually doing a medical transition to have access to women's spaces or can anyone just say they're female and have access? Can you distinguish between a person with dysmorphia and a transvestite? These two types of people want to be in a female locker room for very DIFFERENT reasons - None of this bodes well for their movement filled with lies.

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

Give me five examples of trans women beating all of these records.

@c.m5043

Жыл бұрын

​@@abigailhex1022 I don't think they need to. It's obvious that if the floodgates are open then this would be inevitable.

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

@@c.m5043 The floodgates have been open for over a decade though. No trans woman has ever qualified for, let alone won, the Olympics

@okwrite7120

Жыл бұрын

@@abigailhex1022 Laurel Hubbard.

@ambientjohnny

11 ай бұрын

@@abigailhex1022 MALE "trans women" dominating female sports Juniper Simonis Wren Pyle Jamie Hunter Victoria Monaghan Tiffany Abreu JayCee Cooper Michelle Dumaresq Laurel Hubbard Veronica Ivy Lana Lawless Valentina Petrillo Natalie Ryan CeCé Telfer Lia Thomas Natalie van Gogh Kate Weatherly Chelsea Wolfe Jenna Lingwood Tiffany Newell Austing Killips Emily Bridges

Diversified speech... to them means, YOU be quiet and only listen to ME. Crazy guys.....

These people really do layer on delusions over delusions.

Black and Jewish are a reality, culturally and arguably, genetically. Gender non-conforming *people* are also real, nobody (least of all Kathleen) is denying that. What is being denied is that Trans women are biological women, because that is a fantasy. We’re all allowed to, and indeed do, create fictions about reality (part of being Black or Jewish or (insert identity) is weaving oneself into the extra-biological/fantastical identity markers) but to demand that others participate in one’s fantasy is tyrannical.

@rosemoon8072

11 ай бұрын

precisely ! its a temper tantrum

Talk about harming your own cause

I had the misfortune of meeting a trans person on a dating website Pretending to be a woman .. disgusting 🤮 Became Very aggressive when I confronted him.

@Madeinwales

Жыл бұрын

I bet turned right back into man mode

@Anna-vl4ju

Жыл бұрын

So he reverted to type ; ie males are generally more aggressive

@theeperson3764

Жыл бұрын

@@Anna-vl4ju trans women have female brain structures anyways so there would have been no naturally-hardwired male aggression from there

@ddp8972

11 ай бұрын

An they wonder why 'real men/males' reject them! 🤔🤦

@stevenicol1

10 ай бұрын

​@@Anna-vl4juI find the opposite. Females in the UK are very aggressive these days. Men on hormone medication seem to be bad though.

WOW i was completely blown away by the first few seconds. " If we were to debate black people's existence" just wow

@efree3462

Жыл бұрын

what if we were debating people wearing blackface?

@gisellemagraibhaigh8342

Жыл бұрын

The desperation is palpable, realising the constant propaganda isn't working makes clutching at ANY straw a viable option 🙄

@jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381

Жыл бұрын

If I with my freckles and pink skin and stringy straight hair started insisting on scholarships for Black people I think my existence as a Black person would be rejected as soon as one saw me. Though I enjoy Soca Music, Black Caribbean food and African head wraps and dresses and dream of tending to a small tropical food garden I'm clearly to anyone not blind not a Black person.

@Gingerblaze

Жыл бұрын

@@jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381are scholarships awarded based on skin color?

@jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381

Жыл бұрын

@@Gingerblaze Not color of skin per se that I know of but not seldom based on ethnic group membership. I don't know of any gingership-based scholarships (otherwise I would have applied for one when I was young).

Remember the old days when they were simply known as perverts?

Men dressing up in women's clothing. 🤣

@spendor9377

Жыл бұрын

Each to their own. The biggest non - issue on the planet.

@knightsnight5929

Жыл бұрын

​@@spendor9377As long as they keep this to themselves, who cares.

@ApacheMagic

Жыл бұрын

@@knightsnight5929 that’s the problem

@spendor9377

Жыл бұрын

@@rightherethereeverywhere People make it an issue when people who aren’t transgender or non-binary make it their business. As a heterosexual male, I can honestly say it’s non of my f#####g business whatsoever.

@daisiesandpandas1218

Жыл бұрын

​@@spendor9377 then you have a daughter, who needs to use a public bathroom in a world where anyone can now self identify as trans (without any medical conditions, thorough assessment etc) and go into the female toilets with her. It's the lax laws and loopholes that they're trying to introduce that's s problem, they're removing rigorous approach to mental health practices and trying to instill affirmation only care. You have a son, who's confused one day that he might have gender dysphoria? The laws are getting so lax it's easier for none gender dysphoric people to fall through the hoops. Your son could have medically and surgically transformed himself before coming to a realisation that outward changes don't do anything. You also don't care how, but there is also an attempt at a world where when you do decide you care you can't talk as it's an offence. Don't be that person that says because it's not affecting me I don't care, these things come back to bite you back. It could be a nephew, a niece, a neighbor's child that falls into this ideology. This is dangerous for even gender dysphoric people themselves and I can't believe we live in a nation that thinks the equivalent of giving an anorexic person liposuction is a good idea.

These activists are themselves going to cause an overcorrection in society. That will harm transpeople, most of whom just want to live their lives in peace. Sad state of affairs.

3.56 "I haven't read Stock's book" 3.57 "as an academic in gender studies widely read in this field I think professor Stock's book isn't of the highest calibre" How is this person in academia. In what world is someone this dense and yet brimming with self confidence a teacher. It's truly terrifying. Maybe he could also branch into film criticism, give Mark Kermode a run for his movie. "I give this movie 1 star at best, awful. I'm glad I didn't watch it"

This is a really, really, really sad situation that can only get worse when people are unreasonable.

@sellingacoerwa8318

Жыл бұрын

this isn't about reason it's about power, trans arguments are quite literally a attack on reason if you listen to them

@chrisbaker3066

Жыл бұрын

@@sellingacoerwa8318 They may be an attack on YOUR reasoning perhaps but is your reasoning based on fact or bias?

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

@@tomgunton Thank you for supporting trans women!

@abigailhex1022

Жыл бұрын

@@tomgunton And the women thank you! Trans women included 👍

@chrisbaker3066

Жыл бұрын

@@tomgunton That's it...keep repeating what you are told to say. It will mean you don't have to think for yourself!! Keep it simple..much like yourself!

They're bullies

The woke mob can’t have a rational argument with an academic - therefore they shut them down

Welcome to the new patriarchy.

Women cancelling women for being sexist? Madness!

BTW, Kathleen Stock rejected the claim trans people are not violent during her appearance at Oxford. They protested with violence proving she was right.

A MAN IS A MAN AND A WOMEN IS A WOMEN THERE IS NO DEBATE THERE .

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

Define a man and a woman.

Nobody is debating trans-people's existence. Or their rights. We debate a deeply held belief trans people have about themselves, and whether that belief, a belief that denies their biological sex in favour of a more nebulous "gender," is enough to allow them to be categorised as the opposite sex by anyone other than themselves. And about whether other people have the right not to affirm this belief by using chosen pronouns and sharing intimate spaces with people not of their sex. Since Trans people have so patiently explained that sex and gender are different and should not be conflated - which I freely accept - then it stands to reason that being a feminine gender does not necessarily make one female, and since sport and toilets are sex, not gender segregated, obviously the answer is to disregard the irrelevance of one's gender at these points, and defer only to sex.

@dragonfox2.058

Жыл бұрын

I deny their existence men becoming women dont' exist except in sexual fantasies

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

Well expressed and to the point, may I quote you?

@Subher0

Жыл бұрын

Why is this such a big deal to you? You have never been to a unisex toilet?

@hmsealey3243

Жыл бұрын

@@annereidy7981 feel free.

@annereidy7981

Жыл бұрын

@Danger Jim trans people, or trans women because it sure looks like trans men will not be an issue and I wonder why? So it's a basic issue of sex v gender in relation to self identifying as female and an automatic access to women's spaces of safety. Its like a murderer self identifying as a non murderer, which is a very common thing to happen and is obviously not a fact. What interests me even more in these cases is, essentially what does it feel like to be a woman? And how does one know that what one feels is essential or intrinsic and not assumed, because it has an attraction.

I support Kathleen Stock..

They're making themselves scapegoats. So masculine and aggressive.

What you're there for is to shout down any view that is at odds with your ideology.

Kathleen was literally hounded out of her job that she'd been in for years. She needed security to even walk on campus.

Black people and Jewish peoples identities arent based on what they arent.

Stock's extremely moderate, and a committed feminist. The issue is 'verging on hysteria' because of the backlash. Women's sport is a classic example of why an open category is so urgent. Biological men - men - will win every time, no matter what they're wearing and how they identify. As the Spanish say, Aunque el mono se vista de seda, mona se queda. Men simply have more power and strength. It's patently unfair to women to have a man compete against them in a sporting event. The divide is not about who you are but what you do. So poetry and art competitions, for example, can be open to anyone, but a physical sport where a man has a significant and unfair advantage needs to be tackled differently. The thing's completely self evident. If any of the protesters actually do read Stock's book they'll see what she thinks, not what they think she thinks. She doesn't say for a moment that transgendered people's rights shouldn't be protected. Of course they should, and she's said this consistently for years!

2:50 Absolutely no clue what she's talking about. Has turned up in a protest with her brother without knowing what they're really protesting against. Earnestly starts talking about the fact that words have no real meaning anymore without a SHRED of irony or sarchasm. Trying to deflect away from the fact she doesn't know much about the situation by saying this, but genuinely doesn't understand how funny her statement is, and then says that some words do have power??

@Subher0

Жыл бұрын

Words indeed have no intrinsic meaning. Can you tell me the meaning of "gay"? Besides, she's talking about words in contrast with action. She decided to support her brother into action. But great observation, keyboard warrior.

@paulhoughton1691

Жыл бұрын

Then she said..."those words do have power"

@paulhoughton1691

Жыл бұрын

@@Subher0 Words have no meaning?

@Subher0

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhoughton1691 Not intrinsically, no.

@Subher0

Жыл бұрын

@@paulhoughton1691 Words having power and hvaing intrinsic meaning... are the same thing...? 🤔Explain.

The damage these people have done to the prestige and credibility of once-great institutions like Oxford and Cambridge is incalculable. How these men in drag can even dare show their faces in public is beyond me.

Denying their right to go to the toilet? Not heard that one before, though it would explain why they are full of it.

Pretendy not trans. The word trans is of cource a lie.

"I haven't read the book. ... Words are not really meaningful anymore." Uhuh... well there you go, that's the movement summed up.

Love Prof Kathleen Stock. Smart, and honest and strong. They are protesting against her when they haven't even read her book. The fact that they think they are on the right side of history is utterly baffling.

Good grief This is the calibre of academia at Oxford ?? Quick bring in A.I.

No one said transpeople cant compete in sports! Transwoman are free to join mixed team sports or compete in the male category. My sympathy for these activists are dwindling

Sick and disgusting caricatures of women as displayed in the video, exist. Nobody's debating that. But the question of whether women can have penises is not and has never been debatable.

Comparing debating trans with blacks and jews is a ridiculous argeument and clearly shows the desperation of some trans activists!

The wonders of an academic on the subject who will only read books that reinforce his beliefs and criticises the quality of a book he's never read.

@kamaliancirranoush1916

11 ай бұрын

I would consider that a hobbyist, not an academic.

I like the way that one guy dismisses Stock’s book as ‘not being of the highest calibre’ even though he admits he hasn’t read it. What great logic! Laughable! Is he actually an Oxford student?

I don't mean to be rude but these disgusting, privileged men comparing himself to the plight of the jews is something else. They need employment, a good shower and some help before they end up hurting a woman.

"I haven't read the book" - That sums up these activists. They don't want a debate or discussion.

To the idiot who said Kathleen's book is " not of the highest caliber" Its selling out fast😊

3:50 "Professor Stock's book isn't exactly of the highest calibre..." Interesting how the individual offers this as a perfectly acceptable reason not to bother reading the book, when a modicum of intellectual honesty would require that one should have read the book in order to come to that conclusion in the first place.

It's very hard to watch this and not conclude - as I often have done myself, and I have had to try and examine how I arrive at the conclusion and whether or not there are sever biases at play on my part - that the vast majority of those gender activists who we see on pieces like this are just pathological liars. There are so many untruths presented as the most undeniable knowledge. We watch for instance the argument that "the right" confects this conflict - in fact, the vast majority of people intuitively react against being told things are absolutely true which are patently false, unproven or debatable. No society can survive being forced to accept falsehoods as truths.

Strawman.. no one is debating anyone's existence.

Woman face = black face

@chesterdonnelly1212

Жыл бұрын

Those look like man faces to me

I love how they're their own worst PR

Hasn't read the book but he's read other books.

@dragonfox2.058

Жыл бұрын

I really don't see how people still have a brain after reading Butler

@kandilula

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonfox2.058 If he actually read Butler, his brain is now mush....evidenced by calling Stock's book not "of the highest calibre" after admitting he hadn't read it.

@sian1615

Жыл бұрын

He read his t-shirt

@lechenaultia5863

Жыл бұрын

Don't believe anyone who says they have read Butler. Her work is gobbledygook

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

And some people haven’t read her book but yet agree with her I read her book her arguments don’t make any sense

Wait, did that person just suggest that black people wanting equal rights is equivalent to males wanting to force women to treat them as if they're female? The implications of that assertion are racist af. It should go without saying that black people do not pose an experientially and statistically significant risk to white people akin to the experientially and statistically relevant risk of predatory behaviour that males direct towards females (or any inherent risk as far as i'm aware). No one is debating whether or not the trans phenomena (and all that that entails) exists btw, theyre debating what it should necessarily mean socially and in terms of policies and law.

@awesomesmasher999ftw4

11 ай бұрын

Here is the comparison. Man in a dress. "I am a traswoman." White man painted in black. "I am a transafrican American."

didn't Stonewall start this whole movement with "No Debate" in the first place? YUP

These are the authoritarians. They don't even see it. Unwilling to listen, Unwilling to allow others to speak. Personally I don't care what any of these fellas wear or what shade of lippy is their favourite. They're free to look as ridiculous as they like. Just keep out of female only spaces, have some respect for female boundaries and leave children alone. It's very telling how dismissive the trans identifying males are of women's concerns in this clip. Perhaps because they're not female and do not have female lived experience. Just a thought fellas....

The dishinesty is galling. When trans rights come at the expense and conflict of womens rights, the safe guarding of children and the complete rejection of objective reality, then of course concerns will be raised, and discusions need to be had. The entitlement these overgrown children have is frankly infuriating.

Being black has nothing to do with men in dresses going into women's spaces.

No one is denying these people exist, only that we should question that there are certain spaces they should have access to.

@lemon1657

Жыл бұрын

Haven't you heard? Denying them access to women's changing rooms is akin to genocide. I thought genocide was the worst human crime imaginable but it's merely a mild inconvenience. The Armenian genocide must have been about a bunch of people queuing for the wrong bathroom.

I don’t doubt that Muslims exist but I can still debate the pros and cons of the Islamic religion

It sounds like a Responsorial psalm…the chanting of the protesters. The priests wear new robes. The abuse continues.

@moraymac2922

Жыл бұрын

Gender identity ideology is a cult. Hence the chanting. The Children of the Corn have been brainwashed and it starts in nursery

These misogynistic men are absolutely pathetic. I support Kathleen all the way. Stop bullying her.

No one's read the book who's anti the book 🤷🏼‍♂

What I don't get is why screaming is equated with joy, but I do know that they don't know what they are talking about, saying one thing while insisting on another. Judith Butler is only an expert in her own theories, opinions. That's why she's a theorist. And where are all the trans men?

@dragonfox2.058

Жыл бұрын

Butler is insane

@dragonfox2.058

Жыл бұрын

Butler is insane

I think the time has come to re-open the lunatic asylums........

They exist. They just don't exist in the way they think they exist.

Even if you chop bits off or add bits on….a man cannot be a woman…it really is that simple 🤷🏼‍♀

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

It’s really not your complete ignorance to this entire debate shows what’s wrong with it

@moraymac2922

Жыл бұрын

@@professorpigeon6517 Humans are mammals. Mammals can’t change sex. No mammal can change sex. Read your Darwin.

@professorpigeon6517

Жыл бұрын

@@moraymac2922 The arguments not about changing sex with changing gender

@daisiesandpandas1218

Жыл бұрын

​@@professorpigeon6517 why are sex based biological features being altered and or blocked to change "gender" then?

@nakshatrasengupta4117

Ай бұрын

​@@professorpigeon6517what should gender be based on?

People! You've gotta read Kathleen's book before you call her a fascist! She doesn't debate Trans existence! Why are you obsessed with old sex stereotypes? Why does a female in your mindset have to wear pink? & A boy wears blue? You keep screaming shutdown to Kathleen Stock! She isn't shutting down your debate... Why are you not accepting that a girl can be into building & a boy into flowers? 💐 She doesn't debate Trans existence!!

So none of them have actually read the book they are criticising. Surprise surprise. The talk about preventing trans women from going to the toilet, playing sport. Nobody is doing that they are arguing that fairness and privacy for women and girls shouldn’t be trampled and spat on. If they haven’t even read Stock’s book then their opinions on her arguments are worthless.

The narcissism is stunning.

We all know who the fascists are.

They are such liars. Talk about manipulation.