Trains at York in the 1970s

Trains at York in the 1970s with a few shots in the Carriage Works and also Down the Line at another station. Compiled from colour transparencies taken by me.
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Пікірлер: 38

  • @bobheyes685
    @bobheyes6854 ай бұрын

    At 1:09 is my Brother and a friend doing the rubbing. I am watching with the white coat whilst my Dad looks on. Fantastic memories of a wonderful time to be a kid. What a find. Thanks Clive.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    4 ай бұрын

    I was so happy to read your comment and see yourself! Does your brother/friend still have the rubbing? I know from experience that many things bite the dust when moving house etc. I think that was a pair of binoculars over your shoulder - I used to have a huge pair like that.

  • @bobheyes685

    @bobheyes685

    4 ай бұрын

    Sadly no. He kept them in canisters all rolled together, but he suddenly died last year and his daughters dumped them. It's a great shame as we collected quite a lot. We had all the Deltics most Peaks including some class 44s, class 50s, 86s some original 47s including George Jackson Churchward (that took long arms) before they shortened it to GJ Churchward.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    4 ай бұрын

    @@bobheyes685 Yes that's a shame. Sometimes family members don't understand the sentimental value of things ike that to other people. I have an old railway sign which I have left in my will to a transport museum. Otherwise it might just get binned!

  • @stunfifi
    @stunfifi Жыл бұрын

    Great pictures, my Dads home depot. He was a train driver, starting in the early 50’s as a fireman, working his way up to top link and retiring in the 90’s. I also worked on the railways, as a coach builder in the carriage works. Great memories, thanks!

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comments, I'm glad you liked the pictures - especially inside the carriage works!

  • @DeepakVerma-cd4fe
    @DeepakVerma-cd4fe8 ай бұрын

    York station has changed since the 1970s it’s lost a lot of its sidings two middle lines . They don’t shunt parcels anymore. It’s lost three platforms. It used to have 16 platforms. I would have preferred to watch trains at York in the 1970s . There were lots of goods trains coming through the station at that time. I missed a lot of steam trains

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. The passing of time does at least leave us with happy memories!

  • @stevehull787
    @stevehull78711 ай бұрын

    Great pictures yesteryear great day's 👍

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. I have more to come from my ancient collection!

  • @dilltdog1158
    @dilltdog1158 Жыл бұрын

    I remember when there were central straight through lines at York in the 1960's and as I recall I only ever travelled from York to Scarborough by DMU.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. The through tracks were removed when the station layout was simplified for ECML electrification. That was also when the track was removed from the former platform 12 where the stopping trains to/from Darlington used to run. Thirsk and Northallerton are now served by longer distance trains. The Scarborough line was mainly DMU but on summer Saturdays there were through loco-hauled trains from further afield. For a couple of years there was even a through HST from Glasgow to Scarborough - on summer Saturdays. I used to have a flyer for it, but it got lost in a house-move

  • @duncancurtis5108
    @duncancurtis510810 ай бұрын

    My first book about trains was a big green hardback from 1975, alongside BR In Action by G. Kitchener.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. A lot of books from the 1970s are now turning up in charity shops and secondhand bookshops - plenty of historical knowledge in them which will get lost if they are simply pulped as rubbish!

  • @nigelarmstrong252
    @nigelarmstrong2526 ай бұрын

    Some nice pictures of York back then. Now the place has changed a lot with redesigned track layout to accommodate the overhead cabling. I like how you've made this video showing off stills. I have countless photos of the same sort of period, mid 70s to early 80s. I might try the same style of video but perhaps add some loco sounds etc.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment, which I appreciate. Another viewer once expressed annoyance that my film was made of stills rather than movies, I replied saying that when I was 18 I couldn't afford a movie camera! With sound you can't please everyone, some like music, others don't. I recently uploaded a selection from Hull-Doncaster-Sheffield and the MSW, with music. Be interested to hear what you think of that.

  • @stephenlarking2247
    @stephenlarking2247 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the recommendation, another very enjoyable set of photos. Interesting shot of the one train still in service on the national network- the 313 class, then new but now we’ll past their sell-by date on the coastway in Sussex, my part of the world. Only ever had one ride behind a Deltic but have never forgotten how exhilarating it felt.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment, and the tip-off that 313's are still around in Sussex! Some old emu's of a similar vintage will shortly end their days on the Merseyrail network, and I have pencilled in a trip there during my next jaunt on a North West England rail rover ticket. Those tickets are such good value. I have a youtube video of my journeys on one of them. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKqf1tyMkd3Nabw.html

  • @dvidclapperton
    @dvidclapperton20 күн бұрын

    Looka like today's heritage railway.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    19 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. I know what you mean - a few years ago I took a ride from Leeming Bar to Leyburn in one of the dmu's I used to commute to and from work in, when I lived in Yorkshire. It felt a bit odd, I must say. Some heritage lines even have Pacers which I find totally bizarre, as they were cheap and horrible.

  • @Oddly1970
    @Oddly1970 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video Clive new subscriber

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment, which I appreciate. More to come when I have time!

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev Жыл бұрын

    Some very nice shots. Colour is particularly good for pictures of that vintage. Interesting that the EMUs were still being constructed by very traditional methods

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. I was lucky to get into the Carriage Works one day with my job, and they let me take a few pictures. The "new" trains I saw being built are all on the scrap-heap now!

  • @nigelarmstrong252

    @nigelarmstrong252

    6 ай бұрын

    Colour was no issue in the 70s !

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Жыл бұрын

    1S17 in 1973 was the Down Flying Scotsman. 1E05 was the Up Flying Scotsman. 1A36 was an Up York to KX service that departed York at 19:16. Anything with a L in the headcode is heading for the Leeds Division (which included York and Scarborough) N means the Newcastle Division (which includes Teesside and Wearside)

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank for that clarification, which confirmed my recollection from when I worked at York in those days.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705

    @neiloflongbeck5705

    Жыл бұрын

    trains the Chronicles of Napier has the details of trains that could have been Deltic hauled.

  • @andrewsaxton2421
    @andrewsaxton2421 Жыл бұрын

    Head codes taken from a web page 1.The first digit is the train class category. 0 represents a light engine movement, or locomotive convoy. An example of a light locomotive convoy headcode could be 0V60, because the first digit is a zero. 1 represents an express train / fast train. A 1 followed by a Q will represent a Network Rail Test Train. 1 is also used for rail charters, usually when the 1 is followed by a Z. 2 represents a semi fast or slow passenger train, which frequently stops at stations. A 2 followed by a Q would represent Network Rail Class 950 test train. 2Z02 is also often used for DRS inspection coach trains. 3 is a priority ECS (empty coaching stock) train, parcels, or a seasonal / weather related vehicle used to spray the rails or weeds. 4 is a fast freight train. 5 is an empty coaching stock train not in passenger use. 6 is an aggregates train, building materials, or other freight which is slower than a class 4 train. 7 is even slower than a class train, usually doing no more than 45mph. 8 is often weather related vehicles, and very slow trains. 9 is high speed services such as channel tunnel passenger services, Virgin trains and some VSTP planned passenger services. Class 9 headcode is also used for passenger services that are running with restrictions or out of gauge in places, that require special routing. The 9 headcode tells the signaller that this is a train with special requirements. 2. The second digit is route identifier Some freight services and non-passenger workings may obscure the last 3 digits, in which case, only the first digit is meaningful and the rest can be ignored. If the 4th digit of a headcode is a letter then it is a masked headcode. Regionally, most routes will have their own letter. For example (as of July 2018), the Brighton to Seaford trains use a C. Different local routes will have a different letter to tell apart train services. Q is usually used for test trains, and Z is usually used for Short Term Plan workings which don’t usually run. Z can be used for test trains, and charter trains. For timetabled freight, a V or an A usually indicates a western region freight working (such as from Theale, or Acton). An O might apply for the Southern region, eg from Grain, Tonbridge or Newhaven. An M tends to apply for Midland freight, E for eastern and S for Scotland eg Aberdeen Waterloo. 3 and 4. Digits 3 and 4 are incremental for standard passenger services, and quite simply, identify particular train services. For example 0900 Brighton to Victoria will have maybe 1A01, and then the 0911 may have 1A02. The last two digits just identify the service on that day. This doesn’t apply to freight services as there aren’t quite as many services as passenger trains, each day.

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for that long explanation. I understood the system perfectly well, my comment on the film related to the fact that I couldn't recall whether 1E05 was the Flying Scotsman or not. I seem to recall that the Flying Scotsman usually went through York station during my lunch-hour. In the Eastern Region L referred to the Leeds Division, N was Newcastle Division, etc., so expresses from London to Newcastle were 1Nxx and so on.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705

    @neiloflongbeck5705

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a bit more to it than that. Trains carrying a headcode starting with 0 then the letter indictates the region or district it is working to and the remaining numbers indicate the shed being worked to or from, for example please a locomotive heading to York shed would display 0L01 for Darlington shed it would show 0N11. To be a light engine movement the locomotive has to be accompanied by no more than 2 brake vans. A train of ECS would start 5 and the rest would be the train reporting number so 5A00 would empty stock off or for parcels train 3A00 as parcels trains used 00 to 29. Freightliner trains used 4*60 to 99, where the * represents the destination region/division. You can find out more on Limit of Shunt or 4D53. There were some other discrepancies such as the local headcodes used on Teesside between Tees Yard and Skinningrove.

  • @philipgreaves5425
    @philipgreaves54258 ай бұрын

    Think 2L24 was a Sheffield to Scarborough service

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your comment - which confirms my memory!

  • @muhammadfadhiil5992
    @muhammadfadhiil5992 Жыл бұрын

    The engineer's inspection train's front looks funky, does it have a TOPS number?

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    I have no idea. Formed from withdrawn passenger stock, like Network Rail still do today.

  • @ukmusichero
    @ukmusichero Жыл бұрын

    was that half a 2 NOL there,.going to the museum?

  • @Clivestravelandtrains

    @Clivestravelandtrains

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I believe it was. NOL was code for No Lavatory I think! It was there for quite a while. Thanks for your comment.