The 9F is a fine example of British Steam locomotive. It has NOTHING to be ashamed of here. Brute strength has always been the Big Boy's wheelhouse. The 9F is a big and fast locomotive in it's own right. And also very beautiful. But me being American, I have to go with the mighty Big Boy.

The Evening Star looks like a child's toy compared the U.P. Big Boy. I love the looks of both trains though, excellent style and performance.

@zeferinoresendiz1698

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@randomclass4653

2 жыл бұрын

considering the 9F is britain's Largest Steam Loco in terms of size and weight and Horsepower.

@rayhankazianga6817

2 жыл бұрын

@@randomclass4653 actually iirc, the LMS coronation holds the record for most horsepower recorded by a british steam locomotive, at 2,511.

For the Evening Star to have stood a chance, she would have had to have been in a double header against Big Boy.

@cadetkohr5508

4 жыл бұрын

I know, right?

@wtf-hc3tp

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t matter much.

@bossmansal67

4 жыл бұрын

And even like that the Evening Star still wouldnt have been able to touch the Big Boy. Even if the Evening Star was in a quad-header.

@saraihooper75

4 жыл бұрын

@@ks_56 WRONG my boy big boy WOULD STAND A CHANCE

@Leatherface123.

3 жыл бұрын

Big boy would pull 3 evening stars with ease

Fun Fact: While most big boys would average about 6,100 HP, 4016 got up to about 7,000 HP

@calicogamerpro2942

Жыл бұрын

I am American but I never knew that!

You should do a race between American brutes, the C&O 2-6-6-6 Allegheny representing the US east coast, and the UP 4-8-8-4 as the US west coast.

@Leatherface123.

3 жыл бұрын

Do an all around competition between the C&O H8 2-6-6-6 Allegheny vs The UP 4-8-8-4 “Big Boy”

I like both locomotive as they are super amazing engines to see them in action hauling a great amount of freight/goods trains.

@in0tshadowxd395

5 жыл бұрын

Joe Light Railway Station

Ha ha! I knew that the Big Boy would take home the win! But, we all have our own strengths.

@cavespider6665

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. Now I don't need to watch the video.

@jodirebecca100

5 жыл бұрын

Little Taro MostAdorableBoy thanks now I don’t need to watch it was just a wast of my time because of you

@jodirebecca100

5 жыл бұрын

Little Taro MostAdorableBoy and your bragging as well

@jodirebecca100

5 жыл бұрын

Little Taro MostAdorableBoy and I know a stronger train then big boy that not meany ppl know it’s in Australia it has two driving spots it’s driving spots are in its tenders and in the middle is not a driving spot the water tender is at the front and the coal tender is at the back I will just say what it’s called it’s called the Garrett

@noelmetz4661

5 жыл бұрын

Jodi Rebecca ln,k

As we speak big boy is being restored by the Union Pacific railroad!

@salahelackad2005

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluefoxy6478 i know

Lazer, you should race engines backwards

@Themanwiththeplan1899

5 жыл бұрын

Cole the steam engine I bet TGVs will be excellent at that

@eastnetherlandsrailroad3421

4 жыл бұрын

Cole the steam engine that's excellent and 😆

@boogywoogums

4 жыл бұрын

Dont they go the same speed in reverse...?

@Dr.Dumbshit

4 жыл бұрын

The Drifting 6 I don’t know?

@boogywoogums

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Dumbshit They don't have transmissions, so the same power would be outputted backwards. I guess speed could be narrowed down due to the areodynamics of a tender bring.... a brick

Putting power into wins. Finally we win one

@1stPeacePrize456

5 жыл бұрын

I like big boy more than 9f

@1stPeacePrize456

5 жыл бұрын

Please do the same with E2 vs 14xx

@ofckids5860

5 жыл бұрын

thats true

@Britishtransport390

5 жыл бұрын

I absolutely Hate American railways. They all look terrible and they have no high speed railway. The best (or most discracefull) attempt by Americans is the acela express

@mrasep_suwarna9429

4 жыл бұрын

infinite thats your opinion but american loco is mostly go to strength

"Evening star is like the queen of all steam engines" Mallard: Wat

@p3trisormc110

4 жыл бұрын

"Big boy is the king of all Steam Engines" Flying Scotsman: *Wat*

@bluefoxy6478

4 жыл бұрын

@@p3trisormc110 big boy: you want my crown? Then try taking a 5 and a half mile freight train by yourself.

@spyfan62591

4 жыл бұрын

Big boy: I went out of service for 60 years or so but i got restoed in 2019 whooooooo, eat your meckanics out panzer tankes, i hauled american sherman tanks used in ww2. Ive even been in thomas the train show as the charecter sam the big green train. And i also have lotes of lionel models to.

@bluefoxy6478

4 жыл бұрын

@@spyfan62591 Sam isn't a bigboy class tho.

@nickelplatenerd6989

4 жыл бұрын

Sam isn't a Union Pacific Big Boy! He is a Virginian Railroad 2-6-6-6 Allegheny!

Even thought i’m American, i absolutely love the UK steam engines!

The Big Boys may be the most powerful steam engines still in existence, but the Big Boys are not the most powerful steam engine ever made. The Norfolk and Western Y6B Mallet were the most powerful, beating out Big Boy by a fair margin. Sadly though, no Y6B’s made it into preservation.

@backofthecountervinyl5295

5 жыл бұрын

Once again not true

@rucarnuts13

5 жыл бұрын

Seb Sheehan - You’ve said that. Problem is, that any research I’ve done on the Z-Class steam locomotives have yielded that they only ever had a tractive effort of under 100,000 lbs. So, prove me wrong. The N&W Y6B’s, operating in simple expansion mode, had a tractive effort of 170,000 lbs.

@backofthecountervinyl5295

5 жыл бұрын

Ah but that is only reserve when pulling it's max gross weight that is the power it then doesn't feed through a prop shaft to the coach / tender. However without pulling any weight it is one of the most powerful trains

@rucarnuts13

5 жыл бұрын

Seb Sheehan - I don’t deal in reserves. I deal in pulling power at the coupler. Tractive effort is the main statistic that determines power. How much tonnage can it pull at it’s coupler in the real world, as it were. In terms of horsepower, technically the Pennsylvania Q2 was the most powerful steam locomotive ever built at 8,000 horsepower. But power vastly overcame their tractive effort, resulting in them not even being considered for the most powerful steam locomotive by many. And as far as tractive effort is concerned, the unit of measurement nearly every railwayman uses to determine pulling power, the Norfolk and Western’s Y6B were the most powerful at 170,000 lbs.

@josea.nievessoto8000

4 жыл бұрын

You got that right, Finaly a good tail entgusiast

i prefer the big boy its just an amassing locomotive such a massive loco out of all the big boy's made i like the 4014 more! but the eveningstar is a great locomotive i have some favorite uk loco's like the E2, A4, 9F, there are great loco's!

This is epic. I like both strong steam locomotive.

yes you finally did a strength challenge after asking you many times on Livestream to do it you finally did it

You should do 9f and big boy vs. Mallard and Union Pacific 844. Strength vs speed

You should do a strength test on mallard and flying scotsman

@CoryAY82383

5 жыл бұрын

they speed, not strength

@iwanraven2973

5 жыл бұрын

Cory Gibson daylight and 844?

@CoryAY82383

5 жыл бұрын

I am not saying don't, just those two are race horses

@iwanraven2973

5 жыл бұрын

Cory Gibson it’ll be cool to see which is the strongest of the fastwst

@ReverieMoonlight_

5 жыл бұрын

Iwan Raven 2 you do know that engines like Daylight, 844, and Silver Link have gone faster than Flying Scotsman before, right? another A3, Papyrus, even went 105MPH. so Flying Scotsman isnt the fastest in this category, but that make sense. just laying some facts out.

They ought to fix the orientation of the eccentric cranks on the Big Boy. With the way it's set up the engine physically wouldn't be able to operate irl, it'd be slowing down if anything. Wouldn't usually mention something like that but this is an engine you pay for I think.

Congratulations on 30k subs, oliver

@bossmansal67

5 жыл бұрын

Ignorant brit doesn't deserve them

There is a debate between whether or not the Big Boys were the strongest, but they are in fact the heaviest of all steam engines. If you could do a strength competition between Norfolk and Western's Y6B 2-8-8-2 Chesapeake locomotives, the Chesapeake and Ohio 2-6-6-6 Allegheny locomotives, and the Union Pacific 4-8-8-4 Big Boys...you'll see a difference in strength power. I think the tractive effort of the Chesapeake is much greater than the Allegheny and the Big Boy.

@bossmansal67

5 жыл бұрын

But the Big Boy's main point was to haul heavy freight trains at HIGH speeds. The Big Boy is literally the only articulated locomotive who's top speed was 80mph. All the others (Alleghenies, DM&IR, SP AC9's, Y6 Class, etc) topped out at less than 55mph.

@Ghostwalker2061

5 жыл бұрын

@@bossmansal67 That is true. 80 miles pulling 5 miles of freight...just huge. And now we need 4 different diesels to pull that much that the 4000 series can pull with one engine.

@bossmansal67

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ghostwalker2061 Yup. There is still no diesel locomotive that has more horsepower than a Big Boy except for only one and it's the largest one ever built, the Centennial (EMD DDA40X). Big Boy does 6,290 horsepower, and the DDA40X did 6,600. But the DDA40X didn't have more horsepower than the strongest steam locomotive ever built, which was the PRR Q2. The Q2 did 7,900 horsepower.

Great engine choices! How about Scotsman vs Tornado vs Evening Star?

@mixedtrafficproductions9371

5 жыл бұрын

Ravenna Good idea

@SouthernKansasRailfan

3 жыл бұрын

It would be cool, but I mean, it would really be fair cuz you are putting two Pacific's vs a Decapod...

Do this race:5 F9's attached to eachother vs 1 Big Boy 4014.the big boy Will pull 100 cars while the F9 Will pull 50.

@russellgxy2905

5 жыл бұрын

THAT would be a good challenge. Though five F9's is much more power than a Big Boy

@reynaldodecelis760

4 жыл бұрын

9f not f9

Do Big Boy Vs Challenger Tug Of War.

@LiamMcLaughlin788

3 жыл бұрын

That is a good idea

@zeferinoresendiz1698

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

2 жыл бұрын

Even if he did, the big boy would still win. No question

You reveiwed an American engine similar to evning star with 5 wheels on each side

Do a race either between Evening Star vs Flying Scotsman Daylight vs Flying Scotsman

Here soon they going to fire the big 4014 up. Can’t wait to see that. I enjoyed the vid

Love your commentating

The strongest (and actually successful locomotives) in the USA were the C&O Alleghenys and Virginian Blue Ridges. They could pull just a bit more than the UP Big Boy (originally named Wasatch.) unfortunately train simulator doesn’t have the C&O or Virginian giants in the game yet. Also one last note, all steam engines in America are referred to as ‘she’. I blame the person who gave the Wasatch classes the nickname that most call them nowadays.

@blackbirdgaming8147

5 жыл бұрын

James the Void Knight Incorrect. There were stronger locomotives such as the Q2 which beat the Alleghenies and Blue Ridges in horsepower and the Y6b which murdered all of them in raw tractive effort.

@James-Railyard

5 жыл бұрын

Blackbird Gaming and yet, both of the locomotives you listed, neither were preserved at all and all were cut up. The two I listed were ones I knew still had survivors that could be or are being restored. If the Q2 or Y6B we’re that great, where are they?

@CountvonStaffordofVirginia1607

5 жыл бұрын

James the Void Knight There actually is one Y6b left, the N&W 2156.

@blackbirdgaming8147

5 жыл бұрын

James the Void Knight Just because something was so great doesn’t mean it would be preserved. That’s a silly idea. Additionally, neither the Y6 or the Allegheny could be brought back to life. Both are far too big and don’t go fast enough for excursion service. In the case of the Allegheny specifically, there’s a reason Lima was sued over their weight and lost.

@James-Railyard

5 жыл бұрын

2156 is a Y6a, not a Y6b. might wanna google that one.

Can you make a video about how strong big boy is (put as much freight cars as much as possible)

In the U.S, the Union Pacific is almost finished with 4014, One of the bigboys. She will be driving from Wyoming to California on May 10 2019.

Hey Oliver! Love Te videos!

Lazer jet can you do a strength competicion big boy vs 844 and daylight please

@professorx2350

5 жыл бұрын

Mariel Cordero that be cool. Big Boy by herself and then an 844 and Daylight doubleheader

@javontianderson8139

5 жыл бұрын

Or do the golden arrow vs thomas

@marielcordero7208

5 жыл бұрын

@@professorx2350 yeah it would beause big boy is the strongest and with 844 and daylight together i know its cheating but they would have a shot right?

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

@@professorx2350 844 and daylight might have an advantage in speed but what about strength wouldn't 844 be the main one pulling the freight beacause daylight was built as a passenger train and 844 can do both but I think big boy might win depending on the length of the track Edit: I mean if daylight and 844 to double head I guess I left that part out

@blackbirdgaming8147

5 жыл бұрын

TurboTon16 The GS-4 was built to do both as well, and many did pull freight. The SP Overnight and other freights were popular assignments during the war.

Remeber that Big Boy had a MASSIVE firebox and the 9f had a relative small firebox compared to that Big Boy Monster. Answering your question I prefer Evening Star (well I'm bound to I'm British).

@idioticbeanz5322

3 жыл бұрын

I’m British too and I renember a British folwer 4f and the firebox was like the size of my hand

You’re in love with the 9F lazer

The 9f should have been 92203 black prince as it hailed the heaviest freight train in Britain just a heads up

@jamesbradford4550

5 жыл бұрын

Yea black prince is stronger

You clearly said that Evening Star couldn’t move with the original weight, therefore Big Boy wins by default and there was no need for this video

@bluefoxy6478

4 жыл бұрын

Big boy would have won anyway cause British trucks are very light compared to American freight cars and there shorter in both height and length and he used the concrete hoppper cars for the bigboy (I think that's what there called) while he used a van, a 7 plank, and a 3 plank for the 9f. Not even the same weight or the same type of wagon.

@unionator8705

4 жыл бұрын

Ur right

@BenjaDoesGames

4 жыл бұрын

good point

@ks_56

4 жыл бұрын

yeah big boy has 4x the power

@r3aper142

2 жыл бұрын

good point it was obious that bigboy was gonna win but its entertaining but still big boy had a point to proove

You should do a strength competition between 4449 daylight vs. mallard.

@kokolitanker7644

5 жыл бұрын

yes!

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

A passenger train vs passenger train but my bets on 4449 daylight

@blackbirdgaming8147

5 жыл бұрын

TurboTon16 Your bet should be safe. 5000 drawbar horsepower and more tractive effort puts the GS-4 in a good spot.

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackbirdgaming8147 well i have a big liking to 3 steam locos and never really cared for British locomotives all that much except for remembering speed records that they made

I love your videos

great video guy

How about Big Boy 4014 vs Challenger 3985

@fallenangel4052

5 жыл бұрын

That’d be somewhat evenly matched, honestly, as for they’re both almost the same size and highly powerful. I’d enjoy to see that. :)

He said “afraid my friends” Uhh... hello? I’m American so i chose big boy

@jacobai3fan85

3 жыл бұрын

No I’m amarican and I wanted the other

Yes I agree that you should do a strength test with Big Boy and DayLight please!

LaserJet I am from Canada and I really love your videos

Size aside, the 9F looks beefy. Can an A4 pull a load like that?

UP FEF 3 #844 vs Big Boy

@TheUnflushedToilet

5 жыл бұрын

Now that's something I'd love to see!

@bossmansal67

5 жыл бұрын

In terms of speed the 844 will win. But in terms of strength, Big Boy wins. Both have unfair advantages.

nice vid bro!

Cool video, can you do the strength challenge again but with Thomas and friends

evening star clearly had less weight to carry

@professorx2350

5 жыл бұрын

Nathan Zhang had less weight to carry yet lost 😂

@thomasanderson63

5 жыл бұрын

Did you not hear him

@anonymousperson26223

5 жыл бұрын

why are you hating. its not like she lost

@Michael-eg3rs

5 жыл бұрын

@@anonymousperson26223 but evening star DID lose

@anonymousperson26223

5 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-eg3rs im talking about big boy

I prefer the Union Pacific big boy because we have it in train simulator 2018

What if this was a handicap race? Locomotives gain their adhesion at least partly through weight. The 9F would be about a quarter of the weight of the Big Boy- proportionally you've got her pulling roughly twice the load.

him: leave your complaints in the coments Me a karren: ok

@zeferinoresendiz1698

3 жыл бұрын

What

When Big Boy hits 88mph, you gonna see some serious sh*t.

@salahelackad2005

3 жыл бұрын

hahah series sh!t

The Big Boy is the Best Locomotive in USA #4013

@jacobpotato8507

5 жыл бұрын

I like number 4014 better

@FranzFerdinandVIII

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobpotato8507 I agree.

@natemartin5175

4 жыл бұрын

4014 is the only operating one 😊

2:42 “Our very first strength challenge will begin”. Uhhh u made a video where big boy and challenger did a strength challenge. Still u might have forgot, after all we are only human. Good vid still my dude👍👍👌

Can you do a double header video with the challenger and big boy

Via rail vs Amtrak vs T.G.V please

@skeay7437

5 жыл бұрын

Yea man we need that Canada vs USA vs Europe

Please do a tug of war

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

Who vs who personally I wanna see the big boy and evening star now that I saw this

you did what we said! :)

Both are brilliantly designed and look great but I would have to go with the big boy.

American: Let's build an engine that will be very useful and pull miles on freight. Brits:How about we make an engine thats as small as our country and show how unpowerful we are.

@richerdmeranda7561

3 жыл бұрын

c'mon man don't go that far

@jurassicsmackdown6359

3 жыл бұрын

... bruh America is fuckin massive, theyre going to need a HUGE locomotive. Europe is a fraction of the size of the USA, they dont need a monster like Big Boy

well i’m sorry to say that this race isn’t fair at all because train simulator doesn’t calculate physics for the AI trains so the locomotive who can go the fastest without any cars / trucks will always win no matter how many cars / trucks it has to pull.

@blackbirdgaming8147

5 жыл бұрын

Sofie Brink Then why didn’t the 9F win? If it doesn’t calculate physics the 9F should have won hands-down.

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you on the physics part but it all comes down to how much time and effort they put into creating the game,trains,and everything else so if you say it wasn't fair ask them about it and get over it or do some damn research on the trains

@SofieBrink

5 жыл бұрын

TurboTon16 Yes you are right i only wanted to point it out and even though it’s not really fair it was still a nice video

@thomas123581

5 жыл бұрын

explain how evening star couldn't move had she had the same length train as big boy and she is faster

@TurboTon16

5 жыл бұрын

It also depends on the type of freight they had

Well Lazer Jet we Americans prefer power over speed and we're proud of it.

Big boy is still in operation here in the states. Thank good for the restoration jobs to preserve American History. It’s good to see steam still in operation

It's fine!

There both great!

Let's just say Evening Star is a completely different locomotive in many, many ways

This gives me an idea for a Thomas episode. "Strongest in Steam" A UP Big Boy named Micha arrives on Sodor on loan. Murdoch feels threatened with Micha around and so tries to haul as much as Micha does, but damages himself in the process. Micha comes in to help, only to reveal that he is a gentle giant like Murdoch is

After seeing the Big Boy in person this summer, I would vote for her hands down.

I love both of them actually plus it's like the steam King and queen.the King being the strongest and the queen being the most beautiful

Evening Star pulling half of what Big Boy has would only make it fair to be honest

@beeswarmfan6662

4 жыл бұрын

True

Best video ever

I like Big Boy, just the pure power in that ginormous thing

I like both locomotives in this video

Oliver: *calls big boy her* Me: *triggered*

Wooooooooooooooooooow

That intro mwuah

Flying scottsman: I'm the king of steam Big Boy: Are you sure about that? Scottsman: I can go 100 MPH Big Boy: I can pull 100 full-size fully loaded cars up a hill without a back engine and I'm the biggest steamer around

This was a no brainer. The Big Boy has two sets of 6 driving wheels and was designed to climb high inclines, so on a flat, it's going to have both the power and speed

@Ghostwalker2061

5 жыл бұрын

8 drivers, two sets of 8 drivers. You're thinking about the Challenger who has two sets of 6 drivers.

Next strength challenge should be with passenger coaches and should be Indian vs. UK, W.A.P-5 (the fastest indian loco) vs the 9F Evening star, electric vs. steam

good video like 🖒

Technically, UP's Big Boy Class isn't the strongest. It's actually the Norfolk and Western's Y6B's

@godtiergodkiller8854

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the y6b has a higher reactive effort by around 30k, but big boy has 2.3k higher horsepower

Rule of thumb, if it American locomotive, it big Mainly because of the generous loading gauge.

The U.P. Big Boy was designed to pull 100+ car trains over the steepest standard gauge grade in the world, Sherman Hill, at high speed and with high power, of course the 4-8-8-4 was gonna win the strength test. It's the largest steam locomotive in the world, they were designed to take sharp curves at 60+ mph and keep going, you'd have to get him over 100 mph before he would start to tip on the curves.

The uk locos look like as heavy from tf2 says: little little men

Nice intro

nice

American locomotives are supposed to look rugged and strong, but locomotives in the U.K. have the looks and seem like they are for express passenger service instead of freight usage.

If only the big boy was numbered 4014

This is like comparing apples and oranges. The Big Boy was designed to pull very heavy freight trains in mountainous terrain, while the 9F wasn't.

I love the intro is it new?

Big Boy all the way. Do UP Challenger vs Evening Star next!

it actually makes sense to give Evening Star half what Big Boy is doing because Big Boy was designed to do the work of 2 locomotives

@ambermolohon3986

3 жыл бұрын

As I've stated in one comment Big Boy is articulated

Especially this one

Hurray for Big by! :)

Fun fact, big boys firebox is as big as a garage, and the driving wheels are bigger than a full grown man.

Hey Lazer jet, In a week its going to be my birthday. Also it would be pretty interesting if u chose the strongest steam engine in every country ( Only the ones that are available ) And put them side to side and do the same thing with this. - GamerZoo Playz

Yes please.

About 100 years ago u.p big boy 4005 had a crash.

Technically the 9f wasn't the strongest Locomotive in the uk in terms of tractive effort