Update: Tesla have been reviewing the data remotely (which is fantastic!) and can confirm the car has zero faults evident. Coolant pumps etc operating as should. They can see when battery reaches 60 deg Celsius that the output Kw is reduced. They have raised to engineering but essentially, unless can somehow be tweaked with software updates, that this is simply a limitation with the car. Not fit for purpose then…😢

@iambenmitchell

3 күн бұрын

So sad, wonder if they never tested the MIC or MIB and only tested the US cars. How/who did you insure the car for the track? I’d love to take a polestar 2 onto thruxton when I purchase one one day

@techevo

3 күн бұрын

It doesn't surprise me. Cylindrical cells just can't get the heat out fast enough due to the surface area to volume ratio of that type of cell. A pouch cell as in the Ioniq 5N is a much better shape for thermal management due to it's inherent design. The MP3 is a great road car, but not great for anything other than one lap flat out on track.

@devonbikefilms

3 күн бұрын

Be interesting to see how the Hyundai N model fairs in similar circumstances. To be fair they don’t sell it as a race car. Having driven a few, they make awful road cars 😂😂

@whlphil

3 күн бұрын

@@techevogiven the previous car didn’t have the same issue with the same design cell I wouldn’t think that’s the whole story. Suspect it’s more to do with the LG cell rather than the 2170 hence why the US cars are rated with more power Anyway should all be solved when the finally get the CATL Qilin

@bryanduncan6178

3 күн бұрын

What colour Ioniq 5N are you going to get?!

Kia EV6 and Ioniq5 N are far better about heat management of the pack. Ioniq5 can drive 2 full laps at Nurb. Power is not everything.

The Ioniq N seems to have good battery cooling. A comparative run would be interesting.

What about testing the IONIQ 5 N ?

Great to hear from John, guys definitely knows his stuff 👍

Just casually overtaking a 718 GT4 & BMW M4 while 2 people are casually chatting. Glorious.

Great video (thank you) but a very disappointing performance from the battery pack.😢

Maybe test the Hyundai Ionic 5N in the same track... to show Tesla how it's done. 😆

Give me an Ionic 5 N any day and twice on Sunday.

@sorinelpustiu5674

3 күн бұрын

Enjoy your 70,000£ Hyundai:)

@juliandclarke

2 күн бұрын

£60k M3P plays £65k 5N. Not sure about PCP rates

Sounds like it’ll need cooling mods for extended use, and some of the usual tweaks like the last M3P. Still excited to see the full potential of this car realized

I would like to see this car vs the IONIQ 5 N. They are saying the 5 N doesn't overheat.

@StefanoFinocchiaro

3 күн бұрын

Doesn't overheat becaue it doesn't preaheat the battery so it start with slower performance. Tesla should add a similar option

@juliandclarke

2 күн бұрын

@@StefanoFinocchiaro I think there are at least 2 race settings with Ioniq 5 N. Depending on the type of track. I’m waiting for mine to be delivered so will be interesting to investigate

@johnnymiller1000

2 күн бұрын

@@juliandclarkethat’s right, not done it on mine yet but there is an N endurance mode that pares back power a little for longer sessions.

@techevo

17 сағат бұрын

​@@StefanoFinocchiaro- That's exactly what Tesla does with Track Mode. It COOLS the battery as much as possible, by overclocking the aircon compressor and transferring heat out of the battery coolant and oil system for the motors via the octovalve.

@StefanoFinocchiaro

17 сағат бұрын

@@techevo No, it warms the battery for maximum performance. It try to keep the battery to a set temperature

Tesla aren't really interested in making a proper track ready EV, they want to sell millions of cars, and that's their priority. That's not going to change anytime soon. 5 years after the original 2019 M3P, they have only improved the rear motor in regards to performance, and the MIC cars are a backstep in regards to the battery. The battery in the US car is basically the same, and will de-rate after approx 3 minutes on track as it's having to deliver around 80bhp more. Compare that to the Ioniq5N which is pushing 640bhp and can run flat out for 2 laps of the Ring. Disappointing, but the reality of using cylindrical cells.

@G82Watts

2 күн бұрын

Then why do they have a track mode and call this a "performance" model? U do realize performance= speed, handling, and braking .. right? Not just a quick acceleration from stop light to stop light. This isn't a perfromance car if that's all it offers. Plus it's top speed is trash

@techevo

2 күн бұрын

​@@G82Watts- I'm talking about the performance of the drivetrain and battery, not the performance of the car as a whole.

Did you try a session with less regen?

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm

3 күн бұрын

Brakes will overheat even quicker

@tv-ld3wv

3 күн бұрын

100% will make a big difference But it's LG chem😢

@lbtobl83

3 күн бұрын

Brakes would be toast after 3rd curve 😊

@richardhc76

Күн бұрын

Change out the pads for XP10 then all good with lower regen

@Pus1

Күн бұрын

Regen makes a huge differnece. I drove my 21 mod 3 performance on the ring and when going over 40% regen the battery gets hot. Worth noting that i have aftermarket brakes so i can push them a bit more

Very informative video thanks!

Joe with his arms folded after the first run look super cheesed off 😂 nice video, shame on the limitations you found.

Learned a lot from your mistakes. Thanks.

Been a long time since I drove round Thruxton. 24 years tbh. But I was Driving a Ferrari 355 and a 360 Modena at the time. Absolutely amazing track👍👍

I wonder if the US-spec battery exhibits similar thermal characteristics

@4literv6

3 күн бұрын

It pretty much does, several shared videos of track runs at Laguna seca shows you get 1 or 2 basically all out laps before. The stock tires and brakes cause fall off and battery temps cause power reduction to kick in. It does lap with a c8 though for half price. 😀 So it's a much better built and much more capable overall car for cheaper than a pre highland m3p was. But the battery itself&the cooling system, with small for the perf sized brakes and not true high perf tires. Means it's a fun quick canyon carver that costs 55k&runs high 10s. Vs being anything serious for a fun track day without additional bolt on parts&tires. But that is also true of most ALL vehicle's sold. 😎👍🏻

@G82Watts

2 күн бұрын

Also tesla is having problems with cars sitting in the heat outside actually losing miles by just sitting outside and the battery draining. 😂 insanity

@G82Watts

2 күн бұрын

​@@4literv6that's true for most cars? U can't be serious dude lmfao. 1 or 2 laps around 1 min short tracks like that then it starts overheating and the brakes also go bad? 😂😂 that's true for almost no true sports car in this day and age. Imagine if porsche or bmw had those problems. Their would be massive recall and it would be blown out of this world on car channels .

Great video Richard and this is what makes me hesitant to purchase one here in Vancouver. I don't like the fact that the battery is different coming out of Shanghai and the Shanghai factory are where all of the Canadian Tesla's are coming from. Build quality and fit and finish may be better but the battery quality is IMPORTANT to me

Did you ever test the Polestar 2 Performance or BST version on a track? I'm curious how it performs in comparison. The PS2 Performance is comparable in price to the TM3P. You should definitely test the Ioniq 5 N when you get a chance. From what I have seen it can go on for much longer without issues. The new Polestar 3 and 4 will be interesting as well.

In Australia later model 3 LR (pre face lift cars) had the LG 79kw packs and the higher internal resistance in my opinion is the issue with heat on track. I managed after a few laps to overheat my battery. I think the Panasonic 82kw with its significantly lower internal resistance can not only charge faster but produce less heat under load. It seems like 55c is optimal for charging and discharging quickly, but 60c they reach their thermal throttling limit. There's a video on my profile of track use with live battery stats of the LG 79kw pack. And this was back when max draw was 366kw not the ~400kw of the new performance.

The Ariel in the background is what I want

I ran my 2023 MY Perf on track, default 50/50 track setting, default regen, went a little easy on the brakes as i knew they would be the weak point (not unusual for a heavy street car on stock pads) and the only thing that got into the orange was the battery. tyres, motors, brakes, everything else was fine. Went from 96% SoC to about 20% no power loss, no issues. Agree they handle better than you would expect

Ha! Love that you're doing that there. My mate works there, which is nice.

Del Boy is a great driver.

Interesting stuff and John really knew what he was talking about. Hope Tesla can fix this through an update for you.

The LG pack definitely has a higher internal resistance, resulting in decreased charge and discharge performance when compared to the Panasonic variant.

@oggyoggy1299

3 күн бұрын

What is the LG resistance and the Panasonic’s?

@G82Watts

2 күн бұрын

Both versions are overheating after just 1 lap.

EX30 review coming?

I’m a big fan of Tesla however this is a massive disappointment and I agree with you not fit for purpose. You have all the software under the Sun so you can go happily round of track on a track day only for it not to perform😡 Wow they’re gonna get some recalls. I like it too getting a radio control car at Christmas unwrapping it out of the box charging the battery and with great anticipation you get one minute to use it things haven’t come on since the eighties to be fair and I really don’t wanna say the obvious , you wouldn’t get this from an ice car

Looked like default had regenerate at 100% maybe try with regain off. to see how the battery holds up.

Track racing is to much to handle for any Tesla.

Nice one for showing the truth, Richard. I love my Highland LR but I don’t think any Tesla is track material. You can give it an option called track mode and a few cool settings to fiddle with, but in the end it’s a great, efficient EV for the road which can accelerate very fast to give your family and mates a giggle. It’s not track material.

Great video

Will you test it against the Hyundai Ioniq 5N? Would be interesting to see :)

@louisolivierfortin

3 күн бұрын

Other than 0-60mph the tesla will get slapped on all metrics unfortunately. The panasonic US car would be a better match but still not as capable on track compared ti the N.

@juanmedinar20

3 күн бұрын

​@@louisolivierfortin the 5N weighs more than a Model S Plaid. I doubt it.

@louisolivierfortin

3 күн бұрын

@@juanmedinar20 I’m just an EV enthusiast who watched like 25 video reviews of the 5N, and it’s unanimous this thing is a beats even if it weighs 4800lbs. Great steering response, great handling, competent on and off track, great top end power (better than m3p with LG battery), etc. Looks like the best package as far as a car that can do it all

@bryanduncan6178

3 күн бұрын

The 5N can get to the top of Pikes Peak with no degradation and can cover 2 laps of the Nurburgring Nordschleife at full speed! There isn't a car currently available from Tesla that can match that.....

@sorinelpustiu5674

3 күн бұрын

​@@bryanduncan6178@bryanduncan6178 where did you read that no tesla can make 2 full laps of the Nurburgring? Or no power degradation at pikes peak?

Did you leave "ride and Handling" in normal mode?

Thanks for that video. I was considering this car as my next one. But now I have some thinking to do. Car with a track mode not able to run on a track. Not fit for purpose! Disappointing. Would be interesting to know how the battery temps behave on a German autobahn performing longer highspeed stretches?!

@JDDD33

2 күн бұрын

Ionic 5N will be the car for you, but it will also require you depart with 1 testical (due to its increased price)

Hi Richard - When you get data from the US-version, I hope you will do an update video about how much difference the two battery packs makes on tracks. !

How did the tires hold up?

테슬라에서 트랙패키지가 없어도 트랙을 달릴 수 있게 만들었다더니 거짓말이네 ㅋㅋ

@pstarke1066

2 күн бұрын

기술적으로 그게 가능했으면 이번에 5n이 기록세운 파익스피크에 나왔겠죠ㅎㅎ

I received my M3P Highland ten days ago and have been driving it satisfactorily. However, from a performance and driving fun perspective, the best electric car at the moment is the Ioniq 5 N. Hyundai has excellent battery temperature control technology and has implemented gear shifting, which is something you usually see in internal combustion cars. It's really impressive.

It would been nice to have a full screen capture so the data you guys talking about we can see it, and you guys ran with a custom profile with 100% brake regen, reducing that would have save some battery temp.

Did you turn regen off by any chance?

Can you provide the specifications of the race? It's really important to know because they can vary significantly between countries, race tracks, and race rules. 1. What was the temperature on that day? 2. How long did each race last in minutes approximately? How much rest did the Tesla have between races, and how many races were there in total? 3. At what points and for how long on the timeline do you really start to loose motor power, and how much power do you loose roughly in percentage terms? 4. The same for braking performance - when do you start to loose performance, how long does it last, and how much performance do you loose? This information is really interesting to know. Perhaps you mentioned some of this in your video, but I couldn't find it. I test-drove this Tesla M3P provided by a dealer, and it was intresting. I plan to buy this M3P next year and want to understand its limits. In Poland, we have 18 race tracks, and I've driven on one of them with different cars, which was really cool. Now I'm choosing between the RS3 and the M3P and trying to understand which would be better for me.

The LG 79kWh battery was already in the 2022/2023 performance. How do those compare to the 2024 and older Performance Models both on track and on drag races? I remember you've tested an LG Model 3 Performance.

Just had one of these on loan for the weekend. Not sure how they have managed this, but for all the improvements it somehow feels ‘cheaper’ than the last 2 generations of M3P. Whilst the cabin is well insulated from external noise, the NVH coming through the chassis when moving is simply not good enough. Tyre roar is one thing, but the noise from the suspension and in particular the front motor is very disappointing. Not convinced by the adaptive dampers - a 200 mile round trip down a mix of country roads, A roads, the M1 and driving into central London revealed a hard ride with sharp ridges being transmitted straight through the cabin (in standard mode). Sport mode was obviously worse. The new sports seats creak, and the noises of plastic on plastic coming from the dash area make it sound like one of those cassette trays from the 80’s is installed somewhere. The wheel trim aero pieces are also an issue - if you drive with the window open next to wall you can hear them rattling. Overall disappointing - it looks better, and they have addressed a number of previous issues but seemingly created more in the process. Worst of all, UK cars come with a compromised battery pack (see track overheating and reduced performance vs US cars). Unacceptable the prices other countries pay for this car - even more so at UK prices. Model 3LR is the smart choice if you must have a model 3 - even more so if/when acceleration boost is introduced. Lease rates seem to be £250 per month less that he M3P. I don’t buy the ‘Performance’ credentials of this M3P - they appear to be more cosmetic that of any real value day to day, and as RSEV has proved, not of any real advantage for the occasional track day. My money will be heading in the direction the Hyundai IONIC 5N.

Any regen braking still on, or set to minimal or off?

@NO3V

3 күн бұрын

Was on 100% when they showed the selected Track Mode profile. 1:57

@TheJAMF

3 күн бұрын

​@@NO3VWeird that that is the standard setting. At least they can do a low setting on a personal profile.

@TheJAMF

3 күн бұрын

​@@NO3VAlso makes me wonder if they had the regen on low on the old M3P. Micha recommends having it on low when doing the Nürburgring Nordschleife. 🤔

Left foot breaking possible?

I hope they will fix this issue with future updated m3p, next year perhaps?

🤔The helmet on Gints looks small...

I have the LR Highland and it is very wobbly and scary above 100mph - bordering dangerous. The mud flaps scrape the ground often so it is pretty soft. My flaps are now half length compared to when new! The MP3 Highland is clearly more composed but a change in tyres etc would help it a lot. I am also wondering if it needs to be driven in a smooth manner rather than drive it like you stole it? Any road based car struggles on track if you drive it like that. My 2012 scooby did 8.1 mpg on track. That was around 80 miles from 70 litres of SUL.

@dominolehmann8227

3 күн бұрын

Just redo a measurement of the track of the car. It's much more stable afterwards

Should have got the 5N

The 3 is not a track car and it was not built for this purpose. It's what Lars said in that JP interview. Adding to that the unfortunate LG battery.

Hopefully we’ll get the Panasonic battery in time, or a better one than the LG at least. It’s probably fine for driving normally, and charging, but not for this.

Looks like the Panasonic batteries are far superior to the LG ones, I wonder if the 82kw Panasonic battery from a 21 plate performance car would fit 🤔

LG or Panasonic battery?

I knew this would be a problem with the car because the lead engineer said it would be.. but it still hurts to see. Tesla needs a proper track day model.

My 21-plate model 3 long range lease is up the end of July… I was looking at treating myself to the performance Model 3… but having watched this… I'm not sure it is worth the extra £420 per month over a long range

I've test drove one today. For everyday use its not worth the upgrade in price over the Standard range and nevermind the LR. It will be LR with 19" wheels for me.

Do you plan to review the Volvo EX30 twin motor?

@RSEV

3 күн бұрын

Yes! I have one at work waiting but not even had time to drive it yet. Coming soon

@Martin-dx5zs

3 күн бұрын

Awesome, can’t wait! We’ve had our twin motor performance EX30 for a few weeks and it’s blown us away. Crazy performance and build quality for the money. Would be fun to see how it compares on track.

@sorinelpustiu5674

3 күн бұрын

​@@Martin-dx5zs what do you think of the infotainment system? And the screen itself? Do you also have the 1sec acceleration lag when you accelerate?

@Martin-dx5zs

3 күн бұрын

Infotainment has been solid for us; buttery smooth. It’s also pin sharp. In terms of the throttle lag, that only occurs in normal mode (not AWD performance mode where the front motor is permanently engaged).

Yeah even though it’s a performance car it’s not a dedicated track car and that track had no let up for the battery to cool down or recover with slow chicanes etc. like other comments was the regen the issue? You need to drive it like a normal road car not a race car.

Really disappointed that you didn’t see the increased performance on track that I have seen.

@RSEV

2 күн бұрын

It feels better, brakes better, but top end speed not notable but then didn’t get chance to really stretch because battery overheats just as getting everything else warmed up.

Remind me not to buy a used car from you 😂

Time to break into the cooling circuit and re-pipe it through a dry-ice pack. 😅

It’s better than the modified old M3P. I’ve had both, and this is faster with battery performance much the same. Come to Castle Combe and I’ll show you.

Shame about that Richard. As a by I thought you might be at the Tesla Owners Club day at Bicester Heritage on Saturday.

Think we should see another New M3P… don’t discount the possibility until another is tried out…it could be your car?

So in the UK we get lower power to begin with, and it still overheats in a short distance on track, even in UK temps. Wonder if the US cars with their battery pack fare any better? I was on the fence about chopping my 2020 M3P for one of these or the Ioniq 5N. Went with the Ioniq 5N, a few weeks in and glad i did….. just dropped my 2020 M3P off for sale at RSEV. Check them out if you’re looking for an EV. Great guys!

@nickolassnielsen

19 сағат бұрын

Same for the us version. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqhn0bezmqvemto.htmlsi=Zc4rFDzrWsaUD4BT

Would love to see the EX30 performance on this track

I've driven many different cars and bikes on track and I can't say that I've ever wanted to drive any electric (road) car around any track. Regardless of the weight, there's no engine noise which is surely one of the joys of driving a car on track? Having also worked at a circuit for a couple of years, I could count on one hand, the number of people driving their 'road car' on circuit and I can't imagine many people building a Tesla racetrack only car. Shame about the battery problems but it seems Tesla did not spend a lot of time developing their performance model 3 for on-circuit use.

Interesting to compare to Ioniq 5N

@RSEV

2 күн бұрын

Ioniq would unfortunately leave it behind… better high end speed, sustainable energy. Maybe braking not quite as good as its heavier but in reality it would trail the 5n I’m quite sure

@MichaelPanzer

10 сағат бұрын

​@@RSEVthe Ioniq does up to 280kw of regen on braking so I don't think the brakes would be worse compared. It delivers impressive numbers everywhere it is tried right now

The LG batteries may have a limitation. Those fricking LG batteries are a big liability for the car manufacturers.

@TimesNewRoumen

3 күн бұрын

They should know at Tesla if they don’t by now.

@edward3366

2 күн бұрын

It is a problem not LG battery but battery cooling system of TESLA.

Since this is the fastest track in the UK I wonder how much longer, if any, it would last on slower ones.

Cool

US spec battery is better I think

@techevo

3 күн бұрын

Not for thermal management unfortunately. It de-rates after 3 mins flat out on track.

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm

3 күн бұрын

Overheats even quicker

Think that tesla will come with a software update as they always do. It might not quite solve it for a high-speed track. But set the regent to low and better brake pads and I think everything is fine. A little money extra and you have a really good all-round car. But for most people it is very good car, almost perfect already.

Circuit with a few straight lines, a lot of low speed curves, and The piloting styles hammering a elétric Car like a gas Car. Probably they were a lot faster at The entrance of The curves, so had to brake a lot harder. With non competitive tires. Its a lot laking to do performance a performance laps

That jerking of steering wheel on fast corner. 👀 Is it having electric power steereing? What type battery is in this one? LFP?

It is perfectly normal that a car designed for road use overheat when pushed on a track... especially on a fast circuit! The battery cooling system (size of heat exchanger, of air access, flow of the coolant pump) is optimized for road use, and you should upgrade it if you want to use it seriously on tracks! Same thing for brakes, BTW. The same apply to ICE cars... with even more serious consequences! But I am sure you know all that better than I do!😉

@oggyoggy1299

3 күн бұрын

We sure do.

@RSEV

2 күн бұрын

What troubles me is that it wasn’t an issue with 2019 and 2021 m3p’s that I’ve treated the same

@francescodelia4069

2 күн бұрын

@@RSEV if I'm not wrong, 2019 and 2021 m3p's had panasonic battery

brb time for tea

is it technologically possible to implement nitrogen cooling system in EVs? that would solve the problem for battery for once & for all

Tesla should dump LG, and stick to Panasonic/BYD/CATL - all a gen or two ahead just in terms of internal mgmnt

Its not an endurance EV like the Ionic 5N. Its a sprint car

Wow Tesla

Should have got the 5N!!!

This car is just not meant for racing. Its more a gimmick (track modus). Cooling is always a big issue of electric cars. The ionic 5n does it a bit better and the porsche also. I was pretty amazed that Lucid had such good cooling. With Teslas its just not very good. You can try tuning and modding it to get better temps maybe.

You need a Taycan for this job.

@phillyphil1513

Күн бұрын

Turbo GT "mit Weissach". 😎

Looks like a battery cooling issue.

I get the feeling that cause this car is still so new, they are probably throttling down the power to be safe until they have enough data to then roll out another update. Which will probably adjust the temperature ranges and warnings etc. that would be my guess anyway. Time will tell, youll have redo the test in a few months once theyve done some tweaks

For Sale: Tesla Model 3 one female owner barely used

Hope you learned how to drive a track day from the expert 🙄

got it, if I want a track car, get the Model S Plaid with track package.

@AllanSustainabilityFan

3 күн бұрын

Would still need to tweak it with third party mods, but at least they do offer the $20k ceramics on that trim; for this one you would need to go to third party for them, along with more track oriented suspension/cooling. Track racing can be an expensive hobby.

@PJS88PJS

3 күн бұрын

@@somethingclever1234 no, get an IONIQ 5N

@KsNoz

3 күн бұрын

Or a Hyundai Ioniq 5N

@quintinrafferty7232

3 күн бұрын

​@@KsNozexactly what I was thinking

@officialyasir

3 күн бұрын

Plaid is a boat built for drag racing and that's about it, unless you plan on doing significant mods.

Without rubbing too much salt in to the wounds, I think the Hyundai Ioniq 5N will best this, not just in endurance over several laps but be more involving and almost certainly more fun with the "gear changes" and "engine braking" effect when slowing and "changing down a gear". These things matter when track driving., and heighten the involvement factor. Its not just about going as fast as possible.

Would you buy a second hand car from this man…😂

That’s pretty piss poor for a £60k car which is supposed to be a performance car

@alstonmiller212

3 күн бұрын

Their is a better version where an actual driver has done

@israelmercado9692

3 күн бұрын

It’s not a bargain at all in the uk that’s ridiculous that it’s equivalent to 76k US. I got mine for 46k US after tax credit which is insane. And I have more peak power than them.

@mattx4253

3 күн бұрын

@@israelmercado9692 in the Us with tax credits it’s a good buy for a fast car. Problem starts though when you drive it fast. You can cook the breaks and the battery it seems. That could kill you if you fade brakes in the wrong corner

Cheers guys

Sorry, but totally disagree. Just did Castle Combe. Battery performance the same. Overheats after 3 or 4 laps. Brakes give a heat warning long before any reduction in braking. The 2020 M3P lost brakes after 2 fast laps, and they went soft. My best lap time was 1.2 seconds faster than the old 2020 M3P. Top speed at the end of the straight +5mph - and this was the only clear flying lap I got on a green track at 77% battery (after a wet start}. By the way, I first raced at Castle Combe in 1985. I know the circuit perfectly. Won the Dick Mayo sprint last year, so my lap times are as good as almost anyone. Far better car than the old 2020 M3P.

@RSEV

2 күн бұрын

What are you disagreeing with? I agree car is good and has the potential but the battery overheat is an issue (which didn’t happen on previous cars). As you had same overheat issue on a separate track it really does cement the fact this battery pack is not fit for purpose unless somehow software updates can fix.. (unlikely I feel)

@davebway6371

2 күн бұрын

@@RSEVsame overheating as the previous car not worse. By the way, you said the previous modified car was better, did you try it on standard tyres? I doubt any of the modified cars were on standard tyres. I’ve just done back to back same tyres vs fully modded old M3P with tractive, brembo and adjustable anti-roll bar. The new M3P is quicker and better handling.

@francescodelia4069

2 күн бұрын

@@davebway6371 you say "fully modded old M3p...", but, according to your reply, I dont see any suspension improvement like KW v3, and the brakes you mentioned is a not specified brembo. For a fully modded M3P I would have expected at least a Brembo GT kit (5 k$). So, in my opinion, your comparative between the new M3P 2024 and your fully modded old M3p is not relevant

@davebway6371

2 күн бұрын

@@francescodelia4069Tractive suspension is a semi active suspension costing around $15k and it’s the best available. The Brembo brake calipers and disks are also the best available for an M3P so I think it’s your comment that’s not relevant 😂😂😂

@francescodelia4069

Күн бұрын

@@davebway6371 Could you give a link to your Tractive suspensions and Brembo brake calipers and disks of your M3P? Otherwise I can't evaluate your modding. Thanks

Same overheat as previous car, not worse.

@RSEV

2 күн бұрын

As per video, I never had battery overheat with previous versions of m3p

Get a US car. Better cooling and better batteries. More power also

Right so it’s crap and show the limitations of EVs as performance cars. I have a model Y performance and really enjoy it. But if I’m going to go on a track I want a proper car, this isn’t it. 30 miles in just over 50% battery? That’s pathetic.

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