Limiting how much alcohol you consume will mitigate up-chucking.... oh wait, that is a different subject LOL

“...if I were 10-15 percent more into boating.” I love it. Must be an engineer? Thanks for all the informative vids.

Stay safe out there JD, keep on making the phenomenal RV reviews as well as the content, keep on giving us the CORRECT info

Been there done that with boats! They ain’t lying when they say it’s a hole in the water that you throw money into! LOL! Towed my first fifth wheel today and felt the chucking especially over overpasses, but didn’t experience any wiggle and sway like towing a travel trailer. I have to say it was a much more pleasurable a ride and a bonus was getting about two or three MPG better!

Either the 31 or the 33 Tournament Cape Horn! Absolutely beautiful and dry ride!!

That was a good video. I appreciate your commitment to imparting knowledge.

I have never ever had any issues at all pulling with my Goosebox setup. I love it. Plus it takes up zero space in the bed.

@chrishaddad5362

3 жыл бұрын

I wish the whole industry went to goose necks

Thanks for making this video and the information you put forth in it. It is very important that people understand what they are doing before doing it and blindly rolling down the road un-safe. The information is very much needed and I thank you for putting it out there. Hopefully, people will pay attention to it and not over weight a truck and put everyone on the road at risk.

Great overview as always! I have a Goosebox and am surprised by the amount of chucking. You can dial in airbag pressure to try and reduce it, but definitely not eliminate it. More noticeable chucking than with a conventional 5’er hitch.

Good answers JD! Stay safe out there

Awesome thank you. I was considering changing to roto flex

Here is one tip that people don't think about concerning chucking when coming to a stop or taking off. Set up your trailer brakes such that the trailer brakes come on before the truck's. It doesn't have to be much, but I noticed it helped quite a bit when coming to a stop. Of course when taking off, you just have to take it easy throttle or at least let off the brake first so that the slack take up occurs before you actually give it throttle. Amazing how many people I've seen lately that think they can just take off like a rocket ship and don't realize how much stress they put on their hitch doing it.

BlueOx hitch eliminates 95% of chucking. I wouldn't use any other hitch. Also it is 3 piece so it is easy to remove if you need to.

@TheDesertdawg1

3 жыл бұрын

I’m with you 100 %. I’ve been preaching Blue Ox for a couple of years now. I wouldn’t go back to any other hitch after feeling the control this one has.

From my experience towing 100k mi a year. Using a 40 cargo 12’7” tall 102” wide triple dexter axle 7k with slipper leaf springs towed both ways with standard gooseneck hitch and a kingpin conversion tube to fifth wheel with B&W. Trailer empty minimal chucking with 5th wheel hitch compared to moderate to severe with GN. Loaded approximately 17k of product GTW 23-24k pounds when the weight was distributed with most of the weight just to front of axles and over the axles minimal chucking vs majority of weight towards the front of trailer to the axles severe chucking. Was told by several people that if the trailer would have been built with torsion axles the chucking would probably be non existent or not noticed at all. Just another experienced towers .02 .

Thanks for the video. Always like to learn new things. 🙂

Take a look at the ET Hitch. It was originally designed to permit big fifthwheels to be hauled by class 8 trucks. they are releasing the hitch for one ton trucks.

Been a cdl driver for many years. When that motion happens on a class 8 truck it’s usually from the trailer being loaded incorrectly. To much weight on the front of the trailer. Theirs a reason truck scales weigh individual axle groups. Weight distribution is a major factor. Now. Last week I bought our first fifth wheel travel trailer. We have a Ford F-350 dually. Diesel powered. After 24 years Of class 8 driving I was honestly a little intimidated with such a huge trailer behind such a small truck. I’ve hauled everything from modular homes (house trailers) to oil field equipment. But this camper behind my dually was almost like David and Goliath. David being the truck. I don’t think your gonna get rid of that (chucking) feeling totally until you get a 3 ton or bigger truck. Ps class 8 trucks are usually 18000lbs or more depending on what your set up to haul.

Thank you, this is great information. I enjoy your channel, keep up the good work.

That boat in the beginning looks like it belonged to Dexter.

in big rig driving we call it backslap

So helpful. Thank you.

My Andersen Ultimate hitch does not have this issue. F350 with 14000 5th wheel. You had one for awhile and I didn't hear you mention that. You changed it out because you stated it took up too much room in the bed, which I still do not understand. You can even put things under the Andersen. Anyway, chucking seems to be a problem with the pin used on 5th wheel hitches, which is eliminated on the most part with a ball type hitch.

@markbremmer8642

3 жыл бұрын

He changed it out because he also has a tool box in the bed if his truck. It is the overall space it takes up compared to a goose ball hitch. Massive fith wheel or goose ball. Which one takes up more space with a tool box in the bed of the truck?

I really appreciate your videos....great job! I just watched your video on can you reduce chucking. I get it chucking will always be there, and I do have the reese gooseneck. I love it. If I were to upgrade the fifth wheel suspension to the independent suspension, could that help with how the impacts to the front reduce chucking?

Interesting. I haven't noticed chucking with my Sidewinder, maybe because it is locked into the 5th wheel plate and the motion is 22" behind the pin. Only thing I do feel is the drop and lift when the back of the trailer is down or up from the front of the truck while in motion. When I had the wrong wedge in I would get a clunk when coming to a stop followed by a nudge from the trailer, but after getting the proper wedge installed, that went away .

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, same thing on my old hitch. Upgraded hitches and I can't even tell its behind me. The occasional bridge transition is a wakeup call. Dont get me wrong, i check my mirrors just its smooth as can be even when stopping or going no clunk, tug or pop.

This topic is very timely for me. I just upgraded to a fifth wheel from a TT and I’m getting a lot of chucking even on brand new roads. My truck is more than adequate for towing so I knows it’s not that. I’ve got the same Mor ryde pinbox you showed here but it’s the orbital one so I have a wedge. I’m using the BW Companion hitch. Do you think the wedge and rotating pinbox would cause excessive chucking?

im new to pulling a fifth wheel and we have the curt turning point hitch on the 2023 27RS Jayco fifth wheel. The dealer provided the Hitch , a blue Ox 2100 bxr and a B&W turnover ball in my truck. I am experiencing like an almost constant tugging and pulling which the wife doesn't appreciate. It is quite jarring on the lower back. My question is: Can i put in a pin box that absorbs shock and still use the Blue Ox hitch> The Blue ox has rubber dampners to absorb shock as well. Will this work? or should i just go Reese goose box or gen y?

THANK YOU!! I just picked up my Grand Design Momentum 350 from New Braunfels TX and hauled it to Leander TX in my new (used) 2017 Ford F-250 super duty turbo diesel. As soon as I left the rv dealer I experienced this “chucking” and I was like WTF IS GOING ON!? I pull over and called the rv dealer and described a “dugga-dugga-dugga” push pull and it was freaking me out. They said it was normal and I eventually was able to somewhat control it but MAN!! I’m going to try a rubber padding to help. But I was thinking it was the traction control on my truck not playing nice with the trailer. ?? Good to know it’s normal.

👍👍👍👍👍👍

Do better brakes or suspension upgrades on the trailer help, ie shocks, sway control, independent systems?

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

All of those may help if dialed in property and used correctly.

Same thing happens in a tractor trailer. No matter what you do it will happen. 20,000 pound tractor pulling 60,000 pound trailer means fun.

@finallykeywest7470

Жыл бұрын

I drive a tractor trailer and the only time there was any “chucking” was when 5th was out of adjustment!

Get an Andersen Ultimate hitch. Chucking almost disappeared.

Great video, thank you Short of a gooseball type hitch (or andersen/pullright), what you consider to be the least chucking 5th wheel hitch?

The bouncing around, is that a chucking feeling? Or is the bouncing just the way it is, mostly on concrete

I know this is an old video, but I have a question. The examples you gave are all rubber bushings to help with the feel of the chucking. You never discussed the air bag pin boxes. Have you done a more recent video comparing those to the ones you looked at on this day?

I have a question, how would you figure out how much and what you can plug into your plugs when you are boondocking so you don't blow a fuse off grid?

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

Best thing to do is stick to 1 high wattage accessory on 30amp and 2 on 50amp.

@markdessaso4304

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigTruckBigRV Thx JD! You have been a lot of help during this time

Did you do a video of that reese hitch and how it attaches?

As a pin wears does this increase chucking because there is mor play?

Planning to add Morryde independent suspension to my Solitude and thinking about changing the pinbox. What are your thoughts of pairing the Morryde "sliding" pinbox you showed with my B&W Companion hitch?

JD, can you use a Moryde pinbox with a PullRite autoslide hitch?

Do all fifth wheels have the same basic bolt pattern for either a pin box or goose box?

How do you feel about the trail-air pin box?

what about a GenY Torsion Goose connection?

What is your opinion on the air ride type pin boxes ? are they any good or worth upgrading to ?

A question I have is about Dexter Torflex axles and when I go over a bump or through a dip it continues to bounce and rocks the truck a lot. There are no shocks to control the bounce. I am wondering if you have come across or heard of anyone with the same issue. It will bounce so hard I have broken eggs and spilled milk in the fridge. Things in some of the cabinets in the main space and bathroom have even had the doors open and spill their contents. It like an old car with no shocks. I was wondering if anyone make a shock kit or at least bounce bumper to subdue this problem. I am also wondering if the trailer has the wrong carrying weight axles and is too lightly sprung. Thanks for all the vid you produce. Very helpful to all of us here in the rv community.

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you need more weight on the axles. They do make a kit, older video of his. Unsure it they will work with thise axles though.

@Propnut48

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandoncaldwell95 Even if I have a full tank of water (60 gals) it still does it. I am just wondering if I should go to the next stiffer size axle . It’s a super lite Flagstaff with a dry weight of around 8760 lbs and full at 11,000 fully loaded. I believe they are 4400 lb axles X 2. I think the are under rated for the trailer. At a max of 8800 lbs combined I think they are too lightly sprung. They are the rubber sprung independent suspension units.

I've seen a few videos on the gen-y hitch, it looks like that hitch significantly has the ability to reduce chucking. Not sure though. I've been thinking about putting one on my Montana, the reviews have been outstanding. Maybe you can review the Gen-y

@anthonyalimo1996

3 жыл бұрын

Actually meant pinn box, but I'm sure you got that

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

I think the product is great, just needs to be LCI approved.

It's called PHYSICS ! You can mitigate it, but the only way to 'eliminate' it is to eliminate any coupling. In other words one solid piece without joints or hitches. Height & length have very little to do with it; its mass / weight. you might look to Newton's 3rd law of motion.

@brandoncaldwell95

3 жыл бұрын

Length does play a part. I had a trailer perfectly gap transitions. The entire truck and trailer would hit at the same time never causing a problem. Longer or shorter and its tugging an popping on the hitch youll feel harshly in the cab.

What do you recommend as truck specifically model and version (drw/srw) For the Chaparral 367BH and another question can having a 2 inch lift on your truck eliminate your from having 5th wheel just traditional tow trailer

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

The lift would be dependent on who it was done and with what components as well as the design of the fifth wheel and it's stance.

@joeelkmeatrogan3224

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigTruckBigRV yeah so its complicated and What about the truck wich one u recommend for the 367BH

how does truck wheel base affect the feel of chucking? is chucking controlled better by a longer quad cab truck or a short standard cab truck?

@markbremmer8642

3 жыл бұрын

You would feel it more often in a short wheel base, than a long wheel base. The long wheel base slows down the feeling, where the short amps it up because of the wheel base is shorter.

@cpfpv6410

3 жыл бұрын

@@markbremmer8642 I was also thinking a long wheel base would help with chucking and thought it was an interesting point to consider when selecting a tow rig.

Do semi rigs have it? I don't know.

@bcrawford9072

3 жыл бұрын

Semi chucking they have some. On a semi you can adjust the 5th wheel and take about all of it out. Sometimes on semis the king pin on the trailer will wear from so many drivers and different 5th wheel hooking up and then we would change it out.

Hi. Unrelated but I remember you mentioning in a different video that you were having a fifth wheel custom built. Can you say what company and where its located?

@noahparker6209

3 жыл бұрын

@ Teresa Corey not yet stay tuned for the next 6-8 months for when it arrives

@teresacorey767

3 жыл бұрын

@@noahparker6209 thank you. I'll be looking for the video ! :)

Can chucking happen with travel trailers? Also, upgraded pin box vs air ride hitch, which is better?

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but it's not called chucking.

What is better and safer to tow. Goose neck or Pin box

@davidbottles3035

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer my Reese Goosebox as apposed to a fifth wheel style. We have used both.

Get an Andersen hitch. That will eliminate chucking.

@BigTruckBigRV

3 жыл бұрын

Technically, any ball and socket coupler will remove chucking but possibly add rocking.