1967 - as a 5 year old kid I lived in Toronto for the summer before returning to the UK and one thing I always remembered was the trolleybus. 29:11 shows what I most remember - looking out of those curved top split rear windows from the back seat of the bus. I remember the whine of the motor and thinking that it accelerated fast. Wish they were still there Went back in 1995 they appeared all gone with just some wires remaining in places.

@tassiebaz

3 жыл бұрын

Hi SteeVee Dee, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Trolleybuses lasted until 1993 and some of the wired stayed up until 1996. They claim the unfortunate decision to abandon them was an economic one, but who knows. I hope your memories of Toronto are all good ones. I've enjoyed many rewarding visits to that pleasant city. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

@Firestone1

2 жыл бұрын

Great video. It brings back lots of great memories.

I'm a train and I approve this video!!!

@tassiebaz

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Timosha21, Thanks for watching and for your endorsement. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Thanks 4 posting!

@tassiebaz

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mr Neon, The pleasure is mine to be able to share these memories. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Great shots. I was born in the late 60s, so I only remember the early 70s onward. It’s interesting to view the 60s photos before drug culture fully enveloped places like Parkdale and Moss Park. There was more pride of appearance back then. Or so it seems.

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

Hi Test, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. You ae correct. Toronto was a great place to visit back in the good old days. Coming from the US, it was like entering another world of cleanliness, safety, and great transportation services. I haven't been there in quite a while so it's a shame to hear that deterioration has happened. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Great Street ilm - Those Trolly busses were a hoot !

@tassiebaz

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Film Mission, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Thanks. Some amazing shots. Seeing things that are gone forever--Lord Simcoe Hotel, Union Station in its yellow/red cladding, Yonge and Eglinton's previous streetscape. Toronto is in a bad place right now--I hope I can look at this comment in a year as historic.

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

Hi argopunk, Thanks for watching and for your kind words. I always enjoyed my visits to Toronto and am saddened to hear that it's not the same as I remember (much like other places). I truly hope things get better up there. Cheers, tassiebaz.😃

@argopunk

Жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz Thank you! We're going through a spate of violence, which I hope will disappear with some wiser political leadership. I mean our murder rates are still miniscule compared to most similar-sized cities, but we have a different standard we like to live up to. I hope that doesn't sound snotty. Anyway, love your work.

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

@@argopunk Hi, I understand your sentiments exactly. I hate to hear what you described Toronto is going through. I hope there is some action being taken to correct the problems being experienced. At least you are not south of the border, where there are daily horror stories. I am glad you enjoy my presentations and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. This video is FANTASTIC! I watched it several times and, each time I watched it, I noticed things that I had not seen the time before. Keeping this comment short is going to be impossible. These are the greatest and clearest pictures of the TTC streetcars and trolley buses that I have ever seen. There are some really historical photos here! I hope that former TTC Historian Mike Filey sees this video as I am sure he will be very impressed. I know this city from one end to the other and you were clearly from one end of Toronto to the other in taking all these amazing photos and videos. A tremendous amount of work went into taking all of those photos and video. The locations and names in your video are very accurate. Your compilation at the beginning of your video of the streetcar and trolley bus rosters (vehicle manufacturers, origins and vehicle numbers) is way beyond anything that I could have ever accomplished on my own and I have never seen anything like that in any TTC video. You have very good sources for information! A tremendous amount of work went into producing this video and credit must be given where credit is due! Most of your photos are from way before I first came to Toronto (1986). I've been past Lansdowne Division many times but never saw it filled with a sea of beautiful PCC streetcars! At 8:26 into the video is an amazing and UNIQUE photo of Bloor & Jane Loop. Today, that spot is the Jane Subway Station on the Bloor-Danforth Subway line where the buses unload and load passengers. At 9:07 and at 9:13 you can see the entrance and steps leading down to the Yonge subway. At 11:37 you name "Roncesvalles", a very special place for me. It was named by Colonel Walter O'Hara of the British army after the Battle of Roncesvalles, Spain in 1813 in which he led a regiment that fought against the retreating army of Napoleon. Col. O'Hara was wounded in that battle. At 12:19, Bicknell Loop - Rogers Rd.--- I know it well--- streetcar tracks were still visible but the PCC's were long gone by the time I first came up here in 1986. The Loop was serviced by a branch of the Ossington trolley bus (63F). The Harbord St. streetcar is a distant memory. Many people hated to see it go. The Harbord St. route is serviced today by the 94 Wellesley bus that goes into Ossington Subway Station and travels east to Wellesley Station on the Yonge subway line. Beginning at 15:07, nice shots of the CN Tower. At the time you took the photos, it was the world's tallest free-standing structure. Eglinton Station is all changed now. No more surface bus platforms off of Eglinton Av.. All buses now travel underground to unload and load passengers, and the underground "Eglinton-Crosstown Subway/LRT" is being built. Great video footage preserving the sounds of the CLRV streetcars beginning at 19:34. If you listen carefully, you can hear the "clang" of the streetcar bell at 19:59, 20:06 and again at 20:36. Regarding the G Series subway cars, I had the opportunity to ride the old "red" subway cars before they were removed from service. Your photos and videos of the trolley buses were amazing and is the greatest presentation I have ever seen regarding TTC trolley buses! I have seen vintage film footage showing the really old Can-Car trolley buses in Toronto, but I had no idea that there were Marmon-Herrington trolley buses from Cincinnati that were purchased by the TTC. The only trolley buses I remember here in Toronto were the Flyers. Your photo at 35:50 of the Northbound platform at Ossington Station really hit home with me, as I have literally stood on that exact same spot that you did at least a thousand times or more waiting for the bus to go north on Ossington Av.. I lived in a flat just around the corner and up the street from Ossington Station for over four years before moving to the Borough of York. That particular photo is probably the biggest surprise of all in your entire video as it shows a former Cincinnati Transit Marmon-Herrington trolley bus (TTC No. 9137) at the bus platform. I had no idea that Marmon-Herrington trolley buses, let alone trolley buses from Cincinnati, were on the TTC routes! Truly amazing and a real learning experience for me regarding the history of the TTC trolley buses. Finally, in examining the background of your great photos, I noticed all of the gas stations/oil companies that have disappeared from up here. The likes of Gulf, Texaco, Sunoco, BP and Imperial Oil are all gone and the ONLY major oil company up here is Shell. Everyone else is gone! A real mystery! Esso is really big up here in Canada, but I don't believe you have Esso in the U.S.. We do have other gas stations up here, but they are all strictly Canadian (e.g., Petro Canada, Fas Gas, Beaver, etc...). Again, thanks again for preserving TTC history and making this video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! EXCELLENT WORK SIR!

@tassiebaz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Thanks for all your kind words and comprehensive comments. I had hoped you'd like this one (there's no place like home) and was really happy to hear just how much you did like it. It gives me real satisfaction that I can share these pictures after years of sitting on the shelves, and have people enjoy them. It's always fun comparing place where you are familiar and what they looked like many years ago. As you mentioned, some of the background stuff is just as interesting as the vehicles, not only in Toronto, but other cities a well. Note some of the gas prices back then too. I have some more Philadelphia videos I'm working on and some other Canadian cities as well. All the best. Regards, tassiebaz

@johnwoa

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply! What really impressed me is your detailed, in-depth information regarding the origins, built/acquired dates and TTC vehicle numbers of all the transit vehicles covered in your video. I have never seen this information before, even on TTC videos. You have great sources for this information and a tremendous amount of work went into compiling it all! As for doing research, I was a title searcher/abstractor/title examiner for ten years so I am also well-versed in doing extensive research. I plan on giving the information I found regarding that scrapped trolley bus pictured in your Cincinnati Transit Company video that I commented in detail on, but I am a little shy about doing so given your vast knowledge of all these transit vehicles. I will try to be accurate when placing my upcoming comment on that Cincinnati trolley bus video. Regarding the TTC video, the only thing I didn't comment on in my previous comment was the segment on the Hillcrest Shops. I've been there several times years ago but did not see the areas where you took your photos. You must have connections up here to have access like that! One of my neighbours is retired from the TTC (vehicle maintenance division) and I was telling him about your video. He is an older gentleman and doesn't do anything on computers so he wouldn't be able to see your video. He said that he worked at various divisions, including Lansdowne Division and he worked on transit vehicles including the Flyer trolley buses and the GM trolley buses that the TTC got on loan from Edmonton (Alberta) Transit Service [ETS] around 1990 or so. He remembers working on the PCC streetcars but does not recall the Can-Car trolley buses. He did vaguely remember the trolley buses that were acquired from Cincinnati and Cleveland (Marmon-Herrington) but he might have been assigned to other divisions back then where he would have worked on diesel buses and other transit vehicles. Regarding the trolley buses in Cincinnati, the only ones I remember seeing as a youngster, except for that one I saw as a child that looked just like the "scrapped" trolley bus you have pictured near the end of your Cincinnati video, were the Marmon-Herrington trolley buses, but I'm sure there were older trolley buses that Cincinnati had before I was born that I never saw. Sorry so Lengthy. Best Wishes, John

@tassiebaz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Thanks again for your comprehensive comments. Please don't apologize for the length as I am really enjoying what you have to say. I have included information that, if I was watching a video, I would like to see and be informed about. there were three things I considered: 1. Vehicle information, 2. Location information. 3. Route information. I've tried to include some of all three where practical, without being overbearing so as to detract from the pictures themselves. The vehicles and locations are "fixed", while many routes have a changing and complicated history and I wanted to keep things simple and enjoyable for the viewers. The Internet is a wealth of information for all kinds of things, and that is the source on which I mainly rely for vehicle and route information. I also have some hardcopy books that I use to assist and double-check information. I used to keep pretty good records of locations and think that most are accurate. Regarding the Hillcrest Shops visit, I think it was arranged somehow by somebody, but I can't remember the details.They did roll out the red carpet for me and whoever I was with. Regards, Barry

@johnwoa

6 жыл бұрын

+tassiebaz Hi Barry, thank you for your reply and information. You are correct regarding "route information" as many routes change and/or are "tweaked" over the years (i.e., Lansdowne, Harbord, Nortown, etc...). You are right in regards to the way you did your video and the route information was very accurate in regards to what you showed. Another thing I really liked about your video(s) is that there is no background music. So many other transit videos have background music which I find annoying. Your videos are detail-oriented and serious in nature and I like that as I can stay focused on the transit subject at hand without being distracted by instrumental music. Transit (buses, streetcars and subways) is really big here in Toronto with record ridership. I live in the west end on the border of the former cities of York and North York and I am within a short walking distance to five (5) TTC bus routes (with various branches for three of the routes) with two routes, including the "Blue Night Network", running 24 hours-a-day. Up at the intersection of Jane St. and Lawrence Av. W., it is not unusual to see four, sometimes five TTC buses one right behind the other during the rush hours with many passengers. Public transit is alive and well here in T.O.! All the Best, John

@tassiebaz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I always thought Toronto was a leader in public transport, starting with my first visit in 1965. Especially when compared to the many US properties I visited. Glad to hear that things up there are maintaining a high standard. Regards, tassiebaz

I didn't see the North Toronto loop at Yonge and Yonge Blvd.. North Toronto had a couple more, one on Mount Pleasant.

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

Hi I'm a Viking, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Sorry I don't have more pictures but it was a very big system and I didn't live there, so my exposure was limited to short-term visits where I covered as much ground as I could. Cheers, tassiebaz.😄

The 4700 class cars seen in this presentation had quite a history. They were built by Pullman in Boston for Birmingham Ala, delivered in 1947(?) and numbered 50 (an additional 50 were in the planning stage). Subsequently, a lawsuit in the US Supreme Court (Budd VS Pullman) was settled and basically went a long way to killing off some trolley systems. The decision precluded a company such as BEPCO (Birmingham Electric & Power Co) from owning municipal transportation systems. So, BEPCO benefited from using electric streetcars and providing the power that ran them. In effect powering the cars with their own power saved huge costs, and was considered unfair. So BEPCO had to divest the Birmingham Electric Railways. This became Birmingham Transit which then converted to buses selling the almost new trolleys to Toronto. Later in the late 60's Philadelphia had a large car barn fire which destroyed many PCC's (some of their best). They then acquired many of the Toronto 4700's, just painting over the Toronto emblem and putting a PTC decal on the car. I saw these cars running in the late 60's and 70's, still in Toronto system paint!

@tassiebaz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Reg, Thanks for watching and for all the interesting information you provided. I rode the Birmingham cars in both Toronto and Philadelphia. Regards, tassiebaz.

@TheEline2733

6 жыл бұрын

The car barn fire happened on 10/23/1975 and the TTC cars got SEPTA decals put on them. Not PTC. PTC was bought out by SEPTA 9/30/1968.

Tying in to @Arvis N.’s point, at 35:10, you indicate that the trolleys are at the Annette and Ossington intersection. In fact, the street perpendicular to Ossington is Dupont, not Annette. Dupont runs between Avenue Road and Dundas Street West; Annette begins at Dundas and runs west to Jane Street. It’s misleading, I know, as the former trolley route was named 4 ANNETTE. Just thought I’d bring this detail to your attention, as I lived in Toronto for most of my life. Aside from this one point, this was a great video. Thanks for sharing the archival footage. (-:

@tassiebaz

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Dwain, Thanks for watching and for your comment bringing the error to my attention. Not being a Toronto native, I guess I missed that one. I'll make a change in the description describing the correct location. I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation, and thanks again for pointing out the correct location. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.

I remember when they started phasing the battleships out.. those new cars didnt have the same charm. And sometimes i still think its a shame they changed. The same with the red rockets. Even tho i remember the lights going out intermittently in the subway tunnels

@tassiebaz

2 жыл бұрын

Hi im annonymous, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. I agree with your sentiments. There will never be anything to replace the PCC Cars, but progress is hard to stop. I always have and still do enjoy the older equipment, as my videos show. The lights probably went out intermittently in the subway tunnels because the lights on the older cars worked of the third rail and there were places with gaps. Lights on newer equipment work off the batteries so they are always on. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

@imannonymous7707

2 жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz thanks for messaging and the crash course on subway maintenence .as a child I probably thought the train was haunted lol and now I know better . Cheers

@12:37 - Ossington ave. doesn't go to St.Clair. It ends on Davenport Rd. I live there. Great video, never the less.

@tassiebaz

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Arvis N., Thanks for watching and for your comment. I guess my 50-year old notes aren't as accurate as they could have been. I know my memory isn't. I'm not that familiar with Toronto and relied on what notes I had taken. Maybe the location is St. Clair & Oakwood, but I don't see any trolleybus overhead. Thanks again for pointing this out. Regards, tassiebaz.

@heylon

5 жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz Yes, St. Clair & Oakwood sounds right. I moved to Toronto in 1977. I was 16 then. That route was gone by then, I think. Thanks for replying.

@tassiebaz

5 жыл бұрын

Hi @@heylon, I want these presentations to be as accurate as possible so again thank you for your observation. I added a comment in the video description noting the error in the location. Changing the video itself means losing the URL and all data accumulated about the video, so this is the only practical way to do it. Regards, tassiebaz.

At 19:21 there appears car 4574 which is missing from you fleet descriptions. Could the ex-Cincinnati cars been 4574 to 4599?

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

Hi Cara, Thanks for watching and for your astute observation. It looks like I missed a whole class of cars in my fleet descriptions. The missing information is: the car group is Class A9, 4550-4574, all-electric cars, built by St. Louis Car Co, in 1947 for Cincinnati, and purchased by Toronto in 1950. These cars were retired in 1982. Thanks again for your sharp eye. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

@caracarson5205

Жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz I was just watching 4617 being sent to Kenosha, WI and being offloaded by 4616. Are these more Cleveland cars?

@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

@@caracarson5205 Hi, From what I read, 4600-4618 were rebuilt from 19 cars in the class 4500-4549 cars. This was done in 1986-1991. If you are interested, please have a look at my Kenosha streetcar video on my KZread channel. Cheers, tassiebaz.

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@tassiebaz

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and for your accentuated comment. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.

Hello again! I wanted to mention, probably the most intriguing photo of all in your presentation is the photo at 13:42 into your video which shows a transit official wearing a transit cap standing next to a PCC streetcar who looks very much like former TTC chief general manager Rick Ducharme, but that would be impossible because Mr. Ducharme did not join the TTC until September of 1999, having spent the previous 23 years with GO Transit. I have attached a photo of Rick Ducharme (see below Attachment) for you to compare the two photos. Very interesting.........media.gettyimages.com/photos/s-chief-general-manager-rick-ducharme-tours-the-transexpo-in-the-at-picture-id165224329?s=612x612

@tassiebaz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi again, The picture to which you refer was taken at Humber Loop in the early 1970s. Could Rick have a twin, or a past life, or a doppelganger? Regards, tassiebaz.

@johnwoa

6 жыл бұрын

LOL!!! I thought that photo was extraordinary when I first saw it in your video and then eventually I realized the timeline of things. Very interesting! John

I drove the ttc trolley buses .

@tassiebaz

3 жыл бұрын

Hi rob, Thanks for watching and for your comment. I hope this video brought back some good memories for you. Stay well. Cheers, assiebaz.

@robpineault5354

3 жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz Your video was great. I liked the color shots at ttc hillcrest

@tassiebaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@robpineault5354 Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you liked it and appreciate you taking the time to tell me. Cheers, tassiebaz.

@vikingblood0408

Жыл бұрын

Did you know Don Watson?

@robpineault5354

Жыл бұрын

@@vikingblood0408 no

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@tassiebaz

Жыл бұрын

Hi rob, Thanks for watching. tassiebaz.

@robpineault5354

Жыл бұрын

@@tassiebaz tanx