I might have your answer for why the Toro comes out easier. Zones are made with a rim that comes back towards the center so it almost feels like your fingers literally slot inside it, and the Toro has the opposite. It’s sometimes called a plus(+) rim where Innova purposefully makes the inside of the rim slope outward away from the center so it comes out easier.

@andrewtait3886

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I see you suspected something like that later in the vid lol

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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Yeah but good to know it’s the case! Probably could have looked it up but feels nice! Hope they put the mold in more plastics!

@Mikenewton4l

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It’s called a plus rim. Look at most discmania molds. They’re the same way.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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@@Mikenewton4l thanks for the tip! I'll check them out

@Woopbeeps

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Came here to say exactly this. I particularly don't like the forehand grip on + mold rims, but to each they're own

One of the best channels when it comes to reviews. Killing it bro!!!

Best review channel I've come across. Keep it up dude!

Love seeing you feature all my favorite local Joliet, IL area courses! Actually saw you at the Channy Classic before I knew you were a youtube guy!

I only started working on throwing forehand this year and I got a Toro for my forehand upshots and I really love who easy it comes out of my hand.

Just a different and awesome vibe to this disc review video, man! You threw some solid shots in this one.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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Appreciate that a lot, Joshua!

I enjoy watching your journey and progress, keep it up. To the point....It's awesome that you went to Shorewood, but you were literally 10 mins from the oldest course in Illinois and among some of the oldest. Next time you come out to IL, check out West Park!

For a small channel your editing really is top-notch, kudos!

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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Really appreciate that! Hopefully not too small of a channel for long ;)

The Toro is the best addition to my bag this season, just need a baseline one to pair with my CG beef cakes!

I like the editing. You got my sub.

Been wanting to try the Toro out, this only entices me more!

I play this course everyday for practice. Good stuff

Love the editing skills man. Keep it up

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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Appreciate it!

Great content and editing! Gonna subscribe

flight numbers for Toro is 4 2 1 3 as corrected by Innova i picked one up and took me a minute to figure it out. the harder you throw it, the straighter it goes. thrown slower it will turn left and fade hard. great video!!!

Loooove me Toro. The fist round i played a with it I was parked every time I threw it. Flew exactly how and where I wanted.

I've felt the Toro and I noticed a difference between a few of them. There were definitely some that had that ever so slight puddle that made them feel thinner than another disc in the stack. You could try to find one of those if you are curious to compare. The zone does have the perk of coming in every conceivable plastic discraft makes, especially with all the special runs so you get some cool variety. Great video!

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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yeah, that's the one big drawback with switching a lot to the toro is lack of plastics, I'd love a dx or pro

The easier grip is because of the Plus mold on the inside rim. There are Roc+ Teebird+ and a couple other plus molds out there. The interior rim has a slight slant to it. The Star runs are a little less puddle top.

Should throw a get Freaky Zone.. love that DISC!

Throwing on a Steady Eddy original course. Good stuff!

Man you make my home course look so easy would love to disc with you I need some pointers

Ever since I got my toro. It’s been my favorite approach disc ever. I absolutely love my toro trust it so much more then a have any other approach discs. I got like 10 of them

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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yeah, absolutely love it, did work for me in this last tournament!

Was going to get one at USDGC but I haaated how the toro felt in the hand.

This guy is awesome 😂❤️ subscribed engage 😂

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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thanks Matthew!

I’ve been using the toro cuz I was looking for something to fade earlier. The zone is still my stable throwing putter but the toro is more reliable for early and hard fades for approaches. It fights turn much quicker than a zone

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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It's definitely a bit beefier which I love!

Used to live about 3 miles from that course until I moved to Naperville. Now I'm near Knoch Knolls.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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sweet! Pleasure seeing you yesterday!

I bag both of those discs. Because the Toro is badass for forehands and the zone gets an extra 100 ft with backhand 🤘🏼

Have you tried the AGL Alpine Baobab tho? That thing is game changing in terms of overstable putt and approach

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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not yet! wanting to try out AGL stuff!

I’ve been trying the culprit lately. I usually bag tactics. I love the culprit a lot but my beat in base plastic tactics are hard to replace

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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cool! I might have to check out the culprit, with all these companies coming out with these molds and being newer, I just wish they'd have more plastics off the bat!

great comparison, i'd live to see a K1 REKO X or BERG in these comparison, don't forget to update your PDGA Membership!!

Dude after getting the Toro a few months back I ended up selling my zone. I think it has to do with plastic and shape. It comes out so much cleaner than zone for me and I have medium hands with sausage fingers and it works great. This is the only Innova disk I currently throw. Mainly its Mvp Axiom & Trilogy. If you bag it you wont regret it thats for sure. Good luck on your journey

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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Definitely got it's spot in my bag at least for now!

@michaelbadolato1888

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@@BodanzaDiscGolf sweet bro congrats on your win. I think we all knew it was coming so glad its working out for u. If you ever get a chance you should try pyro prism from Axiom. I use for around trees in Arizona and it feels great to throw due to shape

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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@@michaelbadolato1888 cool! I'll have to try it out

I'd like to see you do this same thing but include a TSA Temple. I've been throwing one a couple of months now and love it.

@18bigegan

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I just started using TSA after throwing Praxis and Construct. I had to get a Temple and said this disc could be the new best approach disc in disc golf. I really hope TSA has plans to make it in Aura, Ethos and Ethereal plastic in the future

@bearislandjosh5279

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@@18bigegan I bag a Praxis and a Votum in etherial in addition to the Temple . I actually got my first ace in 25 years of playing with my Praxis a couple of weeks ago. I don't think they'll be making a temple in those because I believe they use a different manufacturer for the nerve plastic. I love the feel of it and the grip. I'm probably going to buy a few more and cycle them into different stabilities, especially because I smoked a tree with mine last week and knocked some stability out of it.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I'll have to check out TSA stuff! I love all the stamps for sure!

@bearislandjosh5279

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@@BodanzaDiscGolf they fly as good as they look. I have three and use them all multiple times per round.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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@@bearislandjosh5279 awesome!

When did my on course inside thoughts become a video???

man either it's a camera perspective trick or I think you are way better at putting than I am. you throw these shots and I think, uh oh. then you drain the birdie anyway.

Yo I’m from Joliet Illinois definitely stop by dellwood and highland there good courses

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I checked out Dellwood and played Channahon classic and now am in Naperville area a bit, solid courses!

Bro, you’re in Illinois! I just started playing like two years ago. My home course is Eagle Ridge in Oswego Illinois. It’s a pretty good course. 1.Eagle Ridge/Civic Center Oswego, Illinois. 2. Knoch Knolls, Naperville, Illinois. Also a good course a bit easier in my opinion. But nicer since it’s in a nicer neighborhood 3. The canyons dellwood IL, best course in the state. Although you have to play during the week because it can get very crowded in the weekend huge course, long holes, throwing down cliffs. It’s awesome. 4. Rolling Knolls in Elgin Illinois has like a 700 foot downhill which is pretty sick. 5. The oaks I forget where this is I think it’s close to Shorewood? I hope I get to play with you one day.

@tonydavila2606

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Wait you live in Joliet!!! That’s awesome just followed you on instagram and saw that!

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I live in a van and travel full time, but am in the area for now! I don't think I'll be able to get out ot Eagle Ridge this trip but I've played Knock Knolls, canyons and am planning on playing Rolling Knolls!

I love zones

Can you compare the zone, toro, and järn?

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I'll have to get my hands on a jarn!

Discraft's inner rim engraving is getting too annoying. I may need to pick up a Toro to replace my Zone. Thanks for the review.

I’ve been throwing a yellow limited edition toro and I would say it’s more beefy than a zone but a zone will fly farther

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I agree with that! to me as well, the more consistent release makes me trust the toro more so I don't mind losing a few feet of distance

The Toro is the perfect OS approach

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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agreed

Do a video of those and a tactic

The RPM Kea is by far the best approach disc out right now.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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ooh, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on one

also, love your editing and pace of these. it's like I'm watching on 1.5x and I don't have to change the setting. can't stand slow moving videos. this is not that.

Interesting that people don’t like puddle top….I specifically look for them 🤷‍♂️

@5th-Season

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Ever throw the devil hawk?

I find my toro is more over stable so I bag both so I can play 2 different distances

ZONES over ZONE CLONES any day

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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🤷‍♂️

Honestly one of the biggest changes to my game was realizing 1.3cm rim depth discs fit my hand best. Took the guess work out of picking discs. I think I just have bony hands but the zone has nothing on a 750plastic A4 in my opinion. That said the zone is a 1.3 and the toro is a 1.4 so I’m honestly not sure which one I would choose between the two. I already have my overstable approach of choice covered by the prodigy A series but I’d be curious to try these two at some point.

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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dang, that's specific!!! I haven't tried the a series yet but might have to check it out

I feel like I drank 3 red bulls with my eyes

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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lolol, that's a great turn of phrase!! 🤣

Yep, Toro is a much better grip than Zone for me. Immediately replaced Zone.

honestly I think instead of either of those 2 discs you should just get a berg, or 3 bergs

I switch the zone to a järn and i winn never look back :)

Get yourself a star cfr toro 😉

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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I'll have to!

Toro n zone aren't just the same toro is more like mutant, a2 , anvil, almost justice but justice is always consistent. Zones are more do it all. With glide

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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zone is definitely glidier!

i live block away from that course

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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nice! Good practice course to live next to!

Therr is no new king zone will always win

@BodanzaDiscGolf

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🤷‍♂️

I think you should stop judging discs that aren't made for putting based on how you putt with them.