Tornadoes in Ancient Rome
Did a tornado ever hit ancient Rome?
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:14 Ancient meteorology
1:50 Babbel
3:05 Philosophical theories
3:52 Aristotle on tornadoes
5:07 Tornadoes in ancient Rome
7:00 The tornadoes of 1749 and 2016
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Aristotle's description is crazily accurate for the time in which he lived.
@AverageAlien
Жыл бұрын
What's that supposed to mean? You think people would be less accurate because they lived in a different time? What?
@BlueSaturnV
Жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien yeah because they didn't have all the equipment and technology we do, So it was a lot more difficult to measure things
@AverageAlien
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueSaturnV you think that technology just magically appeared one day?
@Griff99ita
Жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien "You think people would be less accurate because they lived in a different time? What?" YES
@AverageAlien
Жыл бұрын
@@Griff99ita idiot then
1:24 - What kind of distinction did ancient people make between "tempests" (made by Poseidon) and "hurricanes" (made by Typhon)?
I would love to see a video about STDs in Ancient Rome. Seems like brothels were a huge part of ancient culture.
@nessesaryschoolthing
Жыл бұрын
Sexplanations crossover time
@jarbincks6715
Жыл бұрын
omg yess he has to make a video on this
@karlodomic2890
Жыл бұрын
I think he covers it in his pompeii video
@xmaniac99
Жыл бұрын
Planning some time travel euh?
@adog3129
Жыл бұрын
@@xmaniac99 might as well go to 1940s japan for that
It is amazing how people like Aristotle and Herodotus were able to come up with the ideas they did with the technology available to them. They were sometimes real close in understanding certain phenomenon like the idea about warm air and cold air causing tornados.
In The Netherlands, we call tornadoes 'windhozen' (sing. 'windhoos' pronounced in English like wind hose). The most infamous one hit or struck near the Utrecht Domtower in 1674, causing its connection to the main cathedral to crumble. Ever since that event, Domtower and cathedral remain seperated, the space in between became the 'Domplein' or Dom square. According to the internet, we've had 95 tornadoes in The Netherlands from 1950 to 2015, with only one or two being quite serious. In 1981, a tornado ripped off the wing of a small jetliner, killing 17 passengers while having almost no impact on the ground.
@john-ic5pz
Жыл бұрын
Does Windhozen translate to "Wind tubes"?
@AudieHolland
Жыл бұрын
@@john-ic5pz Good question. I tried looking up 'windhoos' and 'hoos'+ etymologie (Dutch. Hollow tube could well be a more or less accurate phrase. Hoos (singular) in Dutch may be from German Hose (trousers). The form of a windhoos looks a bit like a stocking or half of a trousers.
@Misses-Hippy
Жыл бұрын
@@john-ic5pz In German, hosen means pants or trousers.
@123ricardo210
Жыл бұрын
We also have loads more "waterhozen" and "windhozen" than actual tornados (which are all slightly different).Tornados have a certain strength most wind- and waterhozen don't have. Tornados are relatively rare. Wind- and waterhozen are actually really prevalent, being more than double as likely to happen than in Florida (where they are most prevalent in the US).
@AudieHolland
Жыл бұрын
@@123ricardo210 Wrong. Windhoos is the same as tornado. However, not every tornado is strong enough to pull the roofs off of houses. So most windhozen in The Netherlands are weak tornadoes but tornadoes nonetheless.
Thank you for the "AI generated artwork" label, please keep it as your standard.
@DanielJamesEgan
Жыл бұрын
I didn't notice the tags at first but definitely noticed the wonky artwork. Not bad or anything, it's just off.
@draculastraphouse7863
11 ай бұрын
Braindead comment..
@Nikotheleepic
10 ай бұрын
For people so progressive it seems like there is a resistance to progress when it affects their bottom line huh? Funny how hypocritical people can be when their facade of humanity is revealed to be a mask to hide selfishness narcissism and greed. Not to mention abject hedonism and rhetorical manipulation for the sake of victory regardless of justification or logical argumentative points being actually legitimate even in their own mind. I'm sure to care about when some twitter artist cries about bigotry and starts a witch hunt. People really aren't getting tired of hypocrites I'm sure, nothing will happen to them. :)
@cobaingrohlnovo
10 ай бұрын
lmao
@Taima
10 ай бұрын
The first couple were shockingly convincing to my untrained eyes. Building windows were a bit wonky but honestly it's crazy impressive how good it is already. People love to shit on the various shortcoming that range from small tells to "blatantly obviously terrible" to the artistic eye, but so many pretend like in a year or two these problems won't be remedied. The age of nigh-indistinguishable-from-reality art is upon us, and it's cool but scary.
I haven't watched this video yet but it's definitely a topic I didn't know I wanted to hear about.
@InThisEssayIWill...
Жыл бұрын
Same! I read the title and I was like.. oh wow, yeah they lived on earth too and I bet they did still experience extreme weather back then. It's such a silly mundane thing (from a scientifically understood perspective with nws alerts on your phone and everything) for us now but gosh it must have been really scary to experience back then
It is worth mentioning that the northern Italy is an european hotspot for extreme convective phenomena, including tornadoes. So they were occuring fairly frequently on the Italian Peninsula during the roman era as well, so the Romans must have been very much aware of them
@romerobryan83
Жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 I think you’re assuming people think they don’t happen everywhere, when maybe people assume they happen less often in certain areas… so yeah tornado alley is more likely to get tornados then central Italy… so maybe most people didn’t see them back then especially with no videos or internet or news
@maggiemae7539
Жыл бұрын
Ancient Rome ruled the world! Not just in Italy!
@ericwilliams1659
Жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 wow. I learned something new. I didn't know Antarctica had tornadoes.
@ericwilliams1659
Жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 maybe because of the specific conditions needed to form. It is more than just wind. Also I can find no record of tornadoes at the poles.
Garret ,genuine question here but I understand if you don’t want to answer it… my question is if you’re considering/or in the works of another book as fat gladiators is one of my favourites and found it to be such a great read and I’m hopeful for a for more of your work!
@toldinstone
Жыл бұрын
The sequel is already done, and will be published on October 1! I'm planning to announce the upcoming release this summer.
@nantu07
Жыл бұрын
@@toldinstone That's great news! Are you gonna read it for the audiobook? You definetely should! Love your work, mate!
@tombout2819
Жыл бұрын
GAAAAAAANG
Not something I would have considered in a historical perspective, but extremely interesting regardless! Quality content, as always.
A million more of this please!
Thanks for talking about tornadoes in Europe and in Rome. I don't hear much about tornadoes outside of the North American continent.
I don't know why I thought tornadoes were purely an American phenomenon. Fascinating! Also Aristotle was pretty close to how weather systems work.
@dane1382
Жыл бұрын
id say its probably a combination of tornadoes being much more frequent and severe in America and a general lack of discussion about weather halfway across the world
@steviechampagne
Жыл бұрын
that’s because we have by far the most tornadoes of any location on earth. USA’s unique geography is what causes this phenomenon
@SmoulderDrache
Жыл бұрын
It's because we have tornado alley. Other places rarely experience tornadoes so it doesn't often make the news
@slipstreamxr3763
Жыл бұрын
@@SmoulderDrache We also have a lot more severe tornadoes than any other country, due to America's unique geography. Other countries will have tornadoes, but rarely if ever do you ever hear of f4 or f5 tornadoes occurring outside of the US. I think the most severe tornadoes that Europe has had have all been f3s.
@juwebles4352
Жыл бұрын
I love this reply section that's just a bunch of Americans being like "our tornadoes are the biggest and fuckin strongest dude, they can beat up any other countries tornadoes." its very patriotic
*Fun fact:* Speaking of tornadoes, ancient sources claim that King Romulus disappeared forever when he was carried away by a whirlwind during a celebration on the Campus Martius. It is said that the tornado was sent by Jupiter to transport Romulus directly to Heaven, so the King will become a God without first dying. I just hope that the man who founded the eternal city who conquered the world is still living happily with the gods, playing war with Mars and sleeping on the huge breasts of Venus for all eternity 🥲
@brago_
Жыл бұрын
Dumb fcks 😂😂😂😂😂
@tomlavelle8340
Жыл бұрын
Are facts fun?
@viciousyeen6644
Жыл бұрын
Poor man was yeeted away on his celebration
I love how often there are uploads, so many history channels take a long time to release, and understandably so, but its such a relief to have steady roman tidbits to tide me over between big longform releases from the other channels
Fascinating. I've never read or heard of anyone discussing this topic. I wish there were more first hand descriptions.
This is easily my favorite channel on KZread I learn so much and you’re just relaxing to listen to. Thanks so much!
amazing as always!
I've been on a huge tornado binge watching history on dangerous tornados, perfect timing!
Thank you for fueling my love for ancient Rome!
Thanks. Tornado subject is appropriate for this spring season.
Wonderful stuff!
Very interesting! Thanks for the video!
Great job on this video.
It's very strange how you've used AI generated artwork here. Especially as they look "genuine". It's pretty cool, you're the first one I've seen do this but maybe I'm just behind the times
@stephencampbell2735
Жыл бұрын
I'm appreciative that he indicated when the artwork used was AI generated
@stephencampbell2735
Жыл бұрын
@Karan Raj that's fair. But nonetheless, I interpreted it as him trying to be conscientious about the artistic representations he used. Also... if you've an interest in both history and tornadoes, then you'll have tried and tried to find historical representations of them and found almost nothing, and so if he hadn't indicated they were AI generated then there'd be a ton of people like me going "what? Whoa where'd you find those when are they from/who did them?"
@Game_Hero
Жыл бұрын
@Karan Raj that wouldn't properly credit the origin of pictures, not a great thing to do in professional discussions of history.
@alexanderstrickland9036
Жыл бұрын
It terrifies me. Before long seeing will not be safe for believing.
@DakiniDream
Жыл бұрын
@@stephencampbell2735 - i think it's important in historical context especially. AI-generated pictures are everywhere actually, and there plenty videos showing some. Nothing against AI-generation, it's fun, can be useful in many occasions, but it's still good to mention what is original, authentical, and what not.
the fact ive been watching so many of your videos and so many tornado videos makes this so perfect what the hell
I'm a new subscriber and I must say I am LOVING this content man! Keep it up ❤
another excellent watch
amazing stuff toldinstone
As someone who is going to be studying Ancient Greek and Roman in university this fall, I think it would be really cool if you made a video about your bookshelf, and some of your favourite books, as sort of a reading list. It might be a strange request but it would be fun to watch Edit: Of course with Naked Statues Fat Gladiators and War Elephants included!
Thank you!
I like the trend of comparing current events in America (like tornado season) to equivalent events and subjects in classical history.
Great vid as usual! But is that the lick in your intro?
🌪️⚡️love this video
Loved this one- thanks so much, Garrett! 👏
You're the best. I love your content. It puts me right there - kind of living color.
This topic hit me the other day. I was considering what native American folk did. 🤔
Very interesting!
I was 9 years old when the May 3rd, 1999 tornado hit the OKC metro area; some of the, if not the absolute, highest wind speeds ever recorded on the face of the earth, in excess of 318mph; the tornado itself was a mile wide; some meteorologists wanted to change the scale and make it the first F6 tornado in history. More than half the neighborhood I grew up in was left as nothing more than foundation slabs... it sucked the grass out of the ground and drained the pond my friend and I fished in. I've seen half a dozen big ass tornadoes growing up in Moore/South OKC, even saw the whole sky twisted up into an impressive F4 that tore straight thru the major commercial district in Moore... but in my whole life since nothing has been as big and intense as 5/3/99, not by a long shot
Wow, i never would have thought they had such an accurate hypothisis
This is the best history channel ever. Thank you sir. Could you do a video about Illyrian uprising in the Balkans?
When in Türkiye, talk as Turks do: the Turkish word for tornado is "hortum (meaning "hose").
0:34 Don't forget "pushing pieces of straw through wooden telephone poles"!
Fantastic subject. Surprised how some of the ancient philosophers had the correct approach for how they form.
I look forward to the culinary sequel of this video Tomatoes of Ancient Rome.
I saw multiple water spouts off the coast when i was in Croatia a while ago. That was probably the craziest thing i have ever seen with my own two eyes. Can't even imagine being close to something like that. Zero chance
Slave: "They say that the recent tornado is a bad omen about your reunion today with the Senators to commemorate the Ides, master. What will you do if it comes true?" Julius Caesar: "What I have done all my life... Fight"
This is such a cool channel-
Love the content!
Just to be clear, the tornado pictured at 7:28 is a real tornado, and therefore when it formed over water, its full classification would have been a tornadic waterspout. Worth differentiating, as the vast, vast majority of waterspouts are "fair weather waterspouts" and these invariably dissipate soon after hitting land. The two phenomena differ significantly.
You don't hear much about Apolietes these days, but, honestly, he needs to be stopped. Thanks Garret! ETA: that last photo blows my mind.
I wonder if there was a Roman Pecos Hank, chasing in a chariot making parchment drawings or mosaics in the back.
awesome
crazy to think how close Aristotle was to being right with only ground observations and math as guidelines
Just this week I mentioned to my roommate why we never hear of tornadoes in Europe? Very well done vid!
*steps outside in TX* Where is the warm air???
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4:38 His explanation is actually somewhat true, the cloud of the tornado is in some sense hollow as it is a very low pressure that draws everything towards it to fill the more hollow air
Greetings Italy! - from Oklahoma
I honestly thought that tornadoes were purely a thing only in north america, being that growing up I only ever read or heard about the great dust bowl or other events here in america, and never hearing of other tornado events abroad or in history. love it keep it up man!
@LordSluggo
Жыл бұрын
The Russian plains also get a respectable amount of tornados
@NOLAgenX
Жыл бұрын
I believe they occur on every continent except Antarctica. The reason for the North America-centric view of tornadoes is because of our unique location and geography combined. We get more than anywhere else by a far margin and more powerful ones than anywhere else.
Would love to see an episode on ancient Medicanes, if there are any records of them.
@dirheist
Жыл бұрын
xqcL
@HerculesMays
Жыл бұрын
Did you know that something like HALF of all surviving literature from antiquity was composed by Galen, a famed doctor who wrote on medicine? So we actually have a startlingly titanic amount of knowledge on Greco-Roman medicine thanks to Galen, but other writers survived too, such as Hippocrates and Dioscorides and there's also the writings of Aelius Aristides, a 2nd century Roman orator, who frequented the Asclepium (a sort of temple combined with a hospital) where he recorded his dreams and the remedies for his ailments
@jermasus
Жыл бұрын
Makes sense as medicine is more important and useful to all people, so the works of Galen would of course be copied more
@KK-qm1mr
Жыл бұрын
Oh, I meant what Wikipedia calls "Mediterranean tropical-like cyclones." Medicane is a portmanteau of "Mediterranean" and "hurricane." Medical stuff is cool too, though.
Interesting.
it's a good thing that deaths from tornadoes and other natural disasters are at an all-time low historically speaking.
Better than I. I am using it for Greek. Being dyslexic and unable to memorize, I have low expectations of results. I studied German for 14 years and still am unable to open my mouth to say anything but “Wo ist die toiletten”. Useful yes. But frustrating when I know others can retain vocabulary.
the regular occurrence of tornadoes and hurricanes every year in the US is very fascinating because apparently the driving factor of these storms is the vast deserts of North Africa. the superheated air from summertime in the Sahara desert is carried across the Atlantic, where it picks up moisture and becomes a a nascent storm that requires very little inducement from the local US weather current to explode into a violent storm. it's the only occ urence I can think of one unique geologic feature of a distant continent resulting in terrible weather for another.
The thumbnail looks like a giant worm tunelling into the earth
The say Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Aristotle was a true genius. Putting all that together without any help or prior studies and hitting the mark.
@creativeideas012
Жыл бұрын
Dude educational institutions are comparatively a modern construct. Community played the role of educating people in ancient times. That's how they learned - through contemplation & knowledge passed down through generations. Noone became a genius on their own instantly. Unlike now people being left at the mercy of schooling to learn most of everything
A tornado can tear a man's heart out and show it to him before he dies.
After watching just one video called tornado iceberg KZread now recommends every tornado video under the sun
thats really cool ai artwork, what program was used to make it?
tired me read the title as "Tomatoes in Ancient Rome" which would've been even more impressive.
If I had to live in Tornado Alley and invest in a property the only way would be down. I would become some sort of Hobbit. Some would say I am half way there as I am only 5'6" but lack of height does have its benefits. I am not "a sniper's dream" and when flying cattle-class the leg-room is close to adequate.
@cellgrrl
Жыл бұрын
I live in Tornado Alley-North East Texas, and I am perfectly fine with it because I have a large underground tornado shelter steps from my back door. I have spent many hours down there. Fortunately, it was never needed, but tornadoes are hard to predict so we must act as though they are headed for our house. But on 3 occasions tornadoes touched down within a mile of my house. But NOAA weather radio helps a lot to reduce the time spent down there. In my area, tornadoes can happen any month of the year. One of the worst hit in January.
@SubTroppo
Жыл бұрын
@@cellgrrl I hope that potential debris from the house cannot block your bunker's exit(s). Good luck!
@cellgrrl
Жыл бұрын
@@SubTroppo No problem, we thought of that. We keep a car jack inside the shelter in the event a tree falls on the door. Also we take our phones and can text from inside. Also I always call someone before we go in, so that someone knows we are in there in case we can't get out. If we don't answer, a relative will call for help. When severe weather is happening in Texas, everyone knows about it.
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Wow, I'd always thought tornadoes only occurred in the U.S. and southern Canada. Live and learn!
I'm really curious about that "Area with constant lighting ⚡⛈️" it's a lake in south America I think?
The Enhanced Fujita scale is kind of a bad way to judge tornados. Its a scale that goes by damage. So you could have a tornado with 250 mph that causes zero damage and its a EF0. Put that storm in a city center then you have an EF5.
@chloebutler8438
Жыл бұрын
a tornado that doesn't leave damage evidence would be EFU, not EF0 (and an EF5 would never be mistaken for an EF0 even if it was in the middle of nowhere)
@LordSluggo
Жыл бұрын
It's obviously designed with the insurance companies in mind
Pretty soon there will be only ads.
"the simplification of the meaning of lighting"
I can't imagine how scared these people must have felt seeing these things.
Actually the wind speeds in the jet stream and over mount Washington New Hampshire regularly exceed f5 tornado speeds.
I lived in Wylie Texas during the mother's Day tornado of I think 96 or '98 something like that ... Anyway there was a big pharmacy in town there and the whole building and I mean the entirety of the building was moved on its foundations a few degrees to the point the whole building had to be condemned ... Damn wind ain't no joke
I've learned, watching this, that we know nothing about ancient Rome tornadoes.
Another event western society had no knowledge of is tsunamis. We don't even have an English word for the concept. People used to say "tidal wave" but tidal waves are literally the waves that form during changing tides. Right there in the name. English speakers had no other word and the history of English speakers encountering tsunamis is fairly recent.
There’s no place like Rome, There’s no place like Rome. Wearing the Ruby Sandals?🤣
I've lived through the most powerful tornado ever recorded. The largest tornado ever recorded. And the most destructive tornado ever recorded. That's only F5 tornados. That doesn't even include the F4 and below.
i've always wondered if Rome or Greece had tornadoes or not.
They even happen in the praries in Canada
Imagine being in Europe and seeing a tornado form and touch down. For anyone it would be surreal, but if you were from one of the States where they are regular, you would think someone was getting at you !.
Was Rome especially vulnerable to be a victim of many (or fewer than average, I suppose) natural disasters contrasted to other city states or did it compare more in the norm for contemporary city states?
Tomatoes are from South America!
Love this. I think I might actually enjoy reading Julius Obsequens, possibly for the humor, since one couldn't often get away with reading garbage, ahem, material like that when one was in grad school save in very special circumstances. Assuming my Latin hasn't atrophied too much, and assuming the Latin Latin wouldn't defeat me, as I sometimes struggled with dear old Amianus Marcellinus (great author, even if I struggled with him). I may have to feel more kindly with Aristotle- his reasoning here, as others have noted, is quite superb, even if he has a few particulars off. Honestly my animosity with him stems partly from a loathing of having to read Nicomachean Ethics, which had a magical ability to put me to sleep, and partly because late medieval scholars and Christian elders insisted on treating Aristotle as infallible. And yeah, he's a bit of a misogymist bastard, which is to say: ancient Greek. Annnyway. The other thing I wanted to say is that I love your use of AI generated art as illustration, clearly marked so viewers don't mistake it for primary sources. That's one of the things I immediately started using it for in my own semi-educational posts on social media. But that use has rather been swamped by the dreadful NFT coterie scraping online artists and then selling imitations of their art, often so close to the original that it's raising fair use questions or, if not, it's certainly raising ethical questions as the bots drive real artists out of business. But illustrations used to make lectures more comprehensible, not competing with artists? Based on etchings and other older art styles that are clearly out of copyright? Great!
Does the geological record not show intensity of natural disasters?
When I studied classical studies, this is the direction I hoped classicists would take.
There should be a Twister remake set in Ancient Romelan era
Aristotle’s theory of what causes storms isn’t right, but it’s partly right. Readers of Aristotle will know just how unusual it is for him to be even partly right about science.
That intro tune sounds suspiciously familiar...
Garrett can you advance me a copy of your book? I'll pay. Let me know plz. I don't wanna wait until October man, that's sooooo far away.
2:33 And let's not forget the place many outsiders have seen from the inside, the hapis.