I love that he actually tried a trick he saw in a movie... only for the guy behind him to have also seen the same movie.

@paulmorgan8254

3 жыл бұрын

in a prop plane it was rudder and ailerons in opposite direction.

@martmanana7269

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmorgan8254 what movie was that?

@sre331l

3 жыл бұрын

@@martmanana7269 no not a movie, a manoeuvre! You create huge drag, which slows you down in a hurry, causing an overshoot of the guy behind. You can then turn out, and go to guns immediately, whilst he is trying to turn to stay out of your guns. Though if he goes vertical, you’ve no energy and can’t get your nose up, and end up a sitting duck! It’s all or nothing, losing energy.

@sre331l

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you are in an English Electric lightning, you can sit on your engines, vertical or hit the afterburner, and beat him to 80,000ft or more.

@falconeaterf15

3 жыл бұрын

@@sre331l And glide back to earth with an empty fuel tank.

I totally agree with others here - could listen to this gentleman forever. As an American, it is very informative to hear experienced foreign officers detail their experiences with our aircraft. We so frequently hear of our aircrafts greatness, survivability, etc etc. Very nice to understand from an experts point of view what we do correctly and what we needs work! Thank you for posting your videos sir!!!!

@carbidegrd1

3 жыл бұрын

War games between NATO allies were a brilliant idea. I recall reading how a Swedish sub figured out a way to get under a US aircraft carrier. It may be a bit embarrassing to learn there are shortcomings in your game plan but you are less likely to be surprised by Ivan.

@anditsP

3 жыл бұрын

@@carbidegrd1 better to be embarrassed than have a sunk carrier.... exactly!

@Declan-pg8cg

3 жыл бұрын

Always good to learn and teach amongst people at the top of their game. Staying alive to do that just makes you better.

@babboon5764

3 жыл бұрын

@@carbidegrd1 In the early days of the Vulcans they caused some real consternation for the USA because they were able to exploit their slight radar cross-section to sneak through weakspots in the US mainland defence radar coverage. As a result the Amercans were able to 'plug gaps' they hadn't known were there.

@rovercoupe7104

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t see people from the United States as foreigners. I am from the UK. M.

That is the best first hand fighter pilot's account of air combat training/practice yet !

@paulgush

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Great interview, great guest. One of you best videos yet, Mike!

@hammi1194

3 жыл бұрын

Double agreed!

@boggy8557

3 жыл бұрын

Triple!

@Declan-pg8cg

3 жыл бұрын

I clicked on it thinking, yeah, I'll watch a minute or two of this, then got completely engrossed in this man's brilliant recall of the fighting dynamics. Could listen to him all day.

@babboon5764

3 жыл бұрын

@Graham Shawn Pro Trick: Bend well forward - shove your spamming where the sun don't shine.

I flew the F-15C at roughly the same time Roy flew the F3 (we overlapped a number of years). I remember coming up against F-3's on numerous occasions, although I have no idea if I ever flew against Roy. I always enjoyed time in the pub with the RAF...because of course they were buying. :)

@almac2598

3 жыл бұрын

As ex RN I cant believe the Crabs stood a round. :-)

@preacherF-15

3 жыл бұрын

@Alfred Churchill are you accusing me of stolen valor? What is the basis for your accusation?

@samrodian919

3 жыл бұрын

@Alfred Churchill what do you mean by stolen valour?

@wigon

3 жыл бұрын

@Alfred Churchill Dude, get off it. Don't accuse people of stolen valor unless it's crystal clear that they are talking out their ass and know nothing about their claimed profession in the military. I've had people accuse me of stolen valor as well as I'm ex-Army (Corp of Engineers) and I've never claimed to be anything else but a 51B (Carpentry and Masonry Specialist). So I always found it hilarious that someone would accuse a person of falsely claiming to be a glorified carpenter and ditch-digger. That being said, the rest of your post was fine.....just lay off on the stolen valor accusations. Preacher's post did not deserve that unless you have further evidence that he never served in the U.S. Airforce.

@Foxtrottangoabc

3 жыл бұрын

🤣... im laughing about raf buying the beers 🍻

As a kid in the 80’s I made all of these aircraft as airfix kits. I hung them from my ceiling, and had posters of them from “Take Off” magazine on my bedroom walls. I probably would have asked for this guys autograph as a ten year old. To hear this today amazes me. KZread and the internet constantly amazes me.

@Biggles266

3 жыл бұрын

Holy crap, me too! Loved my Take Offs. Though my models were on a "runway" in the attic. Did you also get World Air Power Journal? All of both my sets are back in my parents house.

@ji3194

3 жыл бұрын

@@Biggles266 I drooled over World Air Power Journal when I was a kid. Sadly never got any copies since it was seriously expensive.

In Teamwork 88 the carrier was CVN-71 USS Theodore Roosevelt with CVW-8 embarked. The two Tomcat squadrons in CVW-8 at the time were VF-41 Black Aces and VF-84 Jolly Rodgers.

@tedjob21

3 жыл бұрын

YUP, I WAS IN VF-84 at that time. Don't forget, the Forrestal (CV-59) also participated in this exercise too, they had CVW-6 with VF-11 and VF-31.

@rogerpattube

2 жыл бұрын

VF-84 Jolly *Rogers*

Worked with Roy on 111(F), 43(F) and 56(R) Sqns. It's nice to see him still chatting with that infectious enthusiasm. He was a pleasure to work with. Spent many a hour fixing that RADAR, JTIDS and RHWR.......... 111(F) 97-04, still my best tour in the RAF. 'Adstantes'

@babboon5764

3 жыл бұрын

Ten years ago now 111 Sqdn was disbanded. (Cameron probably needed the money for Greensill?)

@yodaslovetoy

3 жыл бұрын

My first atc summer camp was at Leuchars in 1990, i remember visiting 111

Excellent interview by a typical RAF pilot, understated and honest. It would be interesting to get the thoughts of Typhoon II types against F-15's, F-16's etc.

The F3 was a BVR late Cold War interceptor designed & built for quick reaction flight to intercept & take out Russian bombers in the North Sea. For this task with the amazing radar system it had it was the best hence the success of chasing down F1-11s during training exercises. It was not an air superiority fighter. Great interview with a world class RAF operator.

I could listen to Roy all day........and what a gent! Mike, glad you asked about the F3 overhauling the F-111........great question and great answer!

@stephenking4794

3 жыл бұрын

Just clicked on to have a look...and, yes MOP...I could listen to him all day too😯😯and risk the bollocking for not mowing the bloody lawn😜😜😜

As a son of a WW 2 pilot who went to jets in Korea, I got a lot out of this!!! Like old times with my Dad!!! RIP

What a nice guy. We need more stories from him.

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Keep an eye out this Sunday!

Love these interviews. Enjoyed every moment of this one. Thank you for continuing to do these!

Just Awesome!!! Really loved it, great interview, very fascinating. Thank you for posting it, will watch it again. All the best!

That is the most informative interview I've listened to so far, I really appreciate he talks about tactics and especially mentions radar

Amazing interview. Loved the detail and could listen to Roy all day. Cheers Mike.

Great interview Mike! Really enjoyed this one. Roy gave just the perfect amount of detail for ACM/BFM.

Really enjoyed this interview Thank you Roy and Mike 😊

I smiled when Roy talked of the ravine they found. All those training sorties in Mach Loop paid off.

@baomao7243

3 жыл бұрын

The ravine story is humorous. Naysayers: “you can’t do that!” Pilot: First order of business is survival! ROFL.

@ianmcsherry5254

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget flying in the Scottish Highlands. Arguably even more rugged than Wales. Used to see the RAF and USAF exercising all the time when I was out in the mountains, during the last Cold War. I'd be amazed if they weren't pulling clumps of Heather out of various parts of the airframes, after every sortie. They were that low, and fast.

This is why I love this channel. You get to virtually meet people I revered as heroes when I was a young lad, to find out now they could have been my next door neighbour or favorite uncle. And these stories... could listen hours on end. Well done and thanks!

Not saying anything new, I could listen to this gentlemen’s experience and detail for hours! He has a wonderful “common man touch” that I truly enjoyed!

Excellent-all of these accounts by ex aircrew are fascinating-thank you so much for your great work.

This was an amazing talk! I love listening to pilots stories of their time in the aircraft….truly awe inspiring! Tha k you for the work that was put into making this

The way Roy explains acm/bfm is just so good. I really appreciate this as mere mortals like me will never get to do this kind of stuff. Thanks Mike to you and your amazing channel

Classy gentlemen, great interview, could listen all day to his stories.

This guy is fantastic to listen to. I hope he keeps coming on.

😲I'm speechless! This was exceedingly interesting! Many thanks to Roy and to you! 👍🏻

I loved his description of the swagger of the F-15s approaching line abreast not caring who knows they’re coming.

@wigon

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. That description was absolute awesomeness. But it also demonstrated some of the over-confidence of the USAF pilots. Against Russian or Chinese SU-30 pilots that swaggerness would disappear REAL quick. The only plane in the USAF inventory capable of dealing with high angle of attack opponents is the F-22 and maybe the F-16. I'm still in disbelief that the DoD didn't cancel the F-35 project as it doesn't stand a chance in the merge against advanced Russian fighters with radars modes that can be specifically tuned to detect stealth fighters. Their IR detection systems coupled with off-boresight helmet mounted targeting systems alone make them F-35 killers. The Russians have also poured heavy investment into upgrading their old Mig-31 foxhounds which covers their long range capability. In contrast, the U.S. military totally stopped the development of their long range air to air missiles while the Russians invested heavily in that technology. Now the tables have turned. At one time the Soviet Union was all about quantity over quality. Now the U.S. military and NATO is all about quantity over quality while Russia has shifted to quality over quantity out of necessity as nations along their borders join NATO. We literally have them surrounded and constantly try to cut off their oil and natural gas routes to Europe. It's just stupid. If Russia did that to America or sent troops to Mexico (as we have troops in Ukraine) we would have already declared war on them.

@ethanroberts4672

3 жыл бұрын

@@wigon America has lost it's way. We will need a good kick in the pant to get on track. The f-35 is really loud. twice as loud as the f-16.

@Shadowfax-1980

3 жыл бұрын

@@wigon If you think you are going to “kill” an F-35 by just outmaneuvering it, you’re going to be disappointed. It’s like bragging you’re the best knife fighter when you’re going up against a guy with a gun. People keep forgetting that the F-35 has advanced sensors of its own. The pilot can literally see through the plane. Not saying the F-35 is invincible, but the people who keep trying to put it down always seem to ignore its full range of capabilities.

@wigon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shadowfax-1980 In BVR combat, you'd be correct, but notice I said "in the merge". Plain and simple, the F-35 is not a high-angle of attack aircraft. It doesn't matter how many sensors it has. Unless the short-range missiles it carries are capable of extreme off-boresight, high-G maneuverability, it will get shot to pieces by any of the latest Sukhoi fighters. It's strength is not in dog-fighting but in BVR combat where it is also difficult to detect on radar. Against Russian and Chinese stealth fighters however, it will likely boil down to short-range engagements. It's why I've always contended that the F-35 was a gigantic waste of money.

@wigon

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanroberts4672 Sadly, if we started to lose against Russia or China in a conventional war, we'd likely resort to nuclear weapons and vice-versa. It's why we need to hope that our politicians are not stupid enough to get us involved in any military conflict with Russia and China unless we develop treaties that state that we will NOT use nuclear weapons on each other unless our countries are directly invaded.

Fantastic interview, I love the old boy’s energy and enthusiasm plus attention to detail. Long stories going off on one paints a much more vivid picture!😁

Awesome video as always AI. What a great communicator Roy is, he made everything really clear & interesting. Thanks gents.

That was incredible. Great to hear from somebody who still remembers every detail but can speak somewhat freely due to the age of the platform in question.

What a great interview. Thank you so much!

WOW - i could listen to Roy's stories/lectures all day! What a facinating insight in piloting a fighter jet! I did not know the amount of second by second tactical analysis required to do this. Fascinating!

I worked on the software for TRN for Tornado during Gulf War 1, so sad to see these gorgeous birds fly their "farewell" tour.

@SimDeck

3 жыл бұрын

Were they still using the red cassete types when you were working on them?

Such a great explanation. More of Roy please.

I first listened to this as a podcast and because Roy explains stuff so well I watched this video to get a handle on the one and two circle fights. I am not a Tornado aficionado but this was compelling listening/viewing. Great stuff, one of my favourites .

Brilliant commentary on the the limitations of F3 and the excellence of RAF aircrews.

Fascinating and honest appraisal of the Tornado's abilities. I grew up wanting to fly this machine, it is easily the most stunning aircraft of that era.

@gusgone4527

Жыл бұрын

Hi James, he seems to be describing the F3's disabilities. I wonder how they would have managed against the best the USSR had to offer at the time. Also wonder why we didn't buy from the Americans and/or licence produce the F15. Far superior to the Tornado in every respect and still being produced today. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, unlike our tendency back then to stay within Europe. The anglosphere has always been our natural safe space. We are far stronger when working together.

@aresgodofwar0422

Жыл бұрын

@@gusgone4527 why the fuck would we want the f15 to replace the nado? they were made for different purposes.

Listened to this on the drive home from work...sat in the car for 8 minutes loving his accounts of skulduggery against the better aircraft...cunning and guile and the best explanation of 1 and 2 circle contacts...brilliant work and great interview.

@Aircrewinterview

6 ай бұрын

Cheers and glad you enjoyed it.

Brilliant interview!! Really interesting and clarifying! Well done👍

Outstanding and I m always very thankful when pilots use their hands to explain

This was absolutely fascinating. Thanks so much! And thanks for your service Sir.

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

I watch a lot of aviation videos, especially jet fighter operations break downs. This was really great to get the perspective from a pilot that was flying a type that I am totally unfamiliar with. Cheers!

Awesome interview... Thanks for sharing.

I think its great our two countries train together!! I consider the British and UK our closest friends!! You weren't out of line flying into that canyon if you weren't warned about it in advanced! It was a good move!!

That has got to be the best and most easily understood explanation of two and one-circle fights I've ever heard! Fantastic!

@Mors_Inimicis

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I’ll have to refer back and see if Roy was a tactics instructor ever, if so he must have been brilliant!

@admiralmacbar

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mors_Inimicis He was a QWI (Qualified Weapons Instructor) on the F3

Just Fantastic. More please.

Great interview. Very much enjoyed listening to Roy.

Great interview! So much fun and he made me laugh a lot!

Amazing insight. Best pilot interview so far. Thank you for your service 🙏🇬🇧

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, Chris.

@chrisward7582

Жыл бұрын

@@Aircrewinterview - always a pleasure to watch :) Plus I must add it would be nice to track down, name and shame the 30 former RAF pilots training the PLA to shoot down western planes for £250k

This guest is great to listen to. Good stories, and pleasantly humble.

I wasn’t expecting to stay and listen but this was really interesting! Thanks

Wonderful interview and such interesting insights. Loved the vs F-15 tactics!! Will have to check out his other videos, wishing all the best for Roy!!

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear you enjoyed it.

Brilliant, jus kin brilliant. I could listen to him all day.

Great interview! Thanks for letting your guest talk to his heart's content. It's a sign of a good interviewer, when you know when to just sit and listen!

@Aircrewinterview

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, Jack.

Brilliant. Throughly enjoyed listening to Roy. Great insight into the world of the fast jet pilot.

The most amazing and informative insight I've ever heard on DACT! That was just fantastic. Thank you! 🤔👀😊

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Great to hear you enjoyed it.

My thanks to you both! Fascinating! Rich.

Another cracking video! I’m waiting for the next one. Cheers!

Great honest interview loved it

Wow that was incredible, Roy tells it like it is; packed full of authenticity and experience. What separates and elevates the RAF pilots is not just training, it's freedom to think thier way through situations and apply the guile to turn defecit into parity or even advantage. The Tornado was designed as a multirole combat aircraft and configured as an F3 was an air defence fighter, never as a singular purposed fighter, where as the US fighters were mostly air superiority aircraft. Its testament to both the airframe and the pilots that it did so well in exercises against the US compliment of fighters, it was never going to be able to compete with a small agile fighter like the F18 in visual range but boy it out performed its design brief big time in the hands of people like Roy and that's comforting.

Very good interview, Roy - balanced and honest assessment. But your hands were going even when you thought that they weren't....!!

Brilliant interview.

Really loved listening to this guy. I'd quite happily listened to more. 👍🏻👍🏻

Thanks. Really interesting chat.

- Fantastic !!! Really interesting !!! Well told !!!

Really good and fair analysis from a vet. Thanks for sharing.

Great video. Roy very good at explaining, easy to listen to and very clear. Then you have the awesome stories on top of all of that! Reminds me of reading Sharkey Wards book about Sea Harrier- great tales of dog fighting.

@doogleticker5183

3 жыл бұрын

Commander Sharkey Ward was totally under appreciated during the Falklands War. He turned the Sea Harrier and NAS 801 into the success story of the decade. Even his comrades in NAS 800 had no clue how to do night ops from a carrier or fly an effective CAP...although pilots weren’t given much of a choice of altitudes to start that CAP. Their superiors were not listening to Sharkey and were not thinking.

A bit of trivia: Roy looks like an older John Oliver. I sat there watching it wondering who he reminded me of. A great chat, thanks.

@stanleybuchan4610

5 ай бұрын

......however, I wouldn't put my life in the hands of John Oliver.....

Really enjoyed that, thankyou! If you can get Roy on again, that would be great! His knowledge of the F3 is amazing. Such a pity the powers that be retired this wonderful aircraft when it was perhaps at it's most potent capability wise. Great channel, keep up the good work 👍

@moochoman9948

Жыл бұрын

They needed the money for more Typhoons I think. Plus the F3 was very expensive maint wise. Was a shame it took so long to become the potent intercepter it was meant to be from the off.

Great interview. I could listen to this guy all day. Would like to have known what a difference ASRAAM made to the visual fight for the F3. I understand it was deadly, even without a HMS.

epic! i have often wondered how our tontos would do against various other aircraft, great vid.

Probably one of the best interviews I've ever seen.

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Love these pilot stories thank you for may them

Very good explanations. Great guest.

Wow.. fascinating listening to this true officer and a gentleman. The F3 was my dream plane growing up in the 80s. I went through Biggin Hill for the university scholarship program and we had to memorize and recite alsorts of stats on the different tornados and his terminology brought back a lot of those long forgotten stats.

These tactical snippets are wonderful.

Fantastic video! Thankyou!!

I agree with the comments, the best first hand account of modern air combat I’ve heard. Brilliant, thank you.

@babboon5764

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely - Top bloke, fascinating account. That said, what he said about F3 engines being de-tuned! JFC our politicians are absolute sh1ts. Probably the same grovellers who sent the army to Afghanistan with thinskinned transport. They truly are bloody murderers.

What a great interview. Thanks 👍

@Aircrewinterview

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I remember reading a reader's letter in AFM (Airforces Monthly) saying that according to an aggressor F-5 pilot, going up against a Tornado F3 up close was like "dogfighting a bus".

@aceyoful

3 жыл бұрын

The Tornado was designed as a bomber and converted to be an interceptor,was never intended for dogfighting !

@svenschwingel8632

3 жыл бұрын

@@aceyoful yes, the Tornado was always meant to be a striker/recon platform, going low and fast.

@zepter00

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. When britts arrived to Poland with their F3 They were anihilated by Poles in MiG-21 Bis.

@iatsd

3 жыл бұрын

And? The F3 was designed to be an air defence aircraft. It's supposed to sit out over the North Sea for hours on end, shooting down Russian bombers, not engaging in dogfights with other aircraft.

@tinman3586

Жыл бұрын

Did Britain not have a maneuverable dog fighter? Was that supposed to be the Harrier?

This is fascinating. Thanks for making this.

@Aircrewinterview

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you enjoyed it.

Great interview. Loved this.

What a great insight, wonderful

This guy is amazing. Could listen for hours!

Awesome interview!

Very informative and enjoyable. Don't go for the third apple! I have known a few fighter pilots, getting them to listen to that bit once the adrenalin is flowing must take a lot of training.

Fantastic. I love when pilots analyze tactics... especially when talking about different aircraft.

Amazing perspectives about the F3. I feel so grateful I got to see them at least once. The one thing that struck me was how heavy they seemed to be on takeoff. After hearing about the “de-tuning”, I now wonder if that was one the main reasons why.

@BrimHawk

Жыл бұрын

Probably durability, and fuel economy. These were seriously thirsty turbojets.

That was really interesting. Thank you so much

Enjoyed that, a fascinating insight to air combat.

really good stuff as always. Well done.

@Aircrewinterview

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Matty.

Fantastic documentary so informative

Fantastic. Thank you both

That was great! Many thanks!

An absolutely brilliant interview.

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Cheers

Great interview!

That was a fantastic interview very informative

@Aircrewinterview

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark.

Massive love and respect from USA, son of an f-15 pilot, tornado is a helluva plane

@CH-pv2rz

3 жыл бұрын

Tornado Fighter version was a true POS...

@rolanddutton4723

3 жыл бұрын

The F2 was a POS. The F3 served its purpose - an interceptor with effective weapons systems on a relatively economical platform. It's obviously no F15 or F16 but it was no POS either.

@wigon

3 жыл бұрын

@@CH-pv2rz The fighter-bomber variants of the Tornado were definitely not a POS. They excelled at low-altitude penetration of enemy territory. Many were shot down during the first Gulf War (mostly by AAA guns) doing anti-runway missions (often during daylight), but they later rectified this weakness by developing stand-off submunition dispensers. Granted it is an old design that needed to be replaced but it was far from being a POS fighter. The old RAF Jaguar was in comparison a much crappier fighter-bomber. Sadly the older Buccaneer was a superb fighter-bomber with excellent low-level flying capability and probably should have been upgraded and kept on. But I think today, the UK's goal is for a true multi-role fighter-bomber that does everything well. That makes sense given the UK's tight military budget requirements. I'm honestly surprised that they bought the F-35 as the Eurofighter is excellent. But I expect them to use the F-35 more as an interceptor and not as a dogfighter. The F-35 will also serve well against 3rd world countries with antiquated radar systems.

@bryonscheer2759

3 жыл бұрын

@@rolanddutton4723 The Tornado was broke down more than it ever flew so yes a POS.........

I know the F-15 and F-16 are both excellent aircraft, and I know they have their strengths and weaknesses, but I never thought I'd hear somone say, in essence, they'd rather be up against F-15s than F-16s. And, thanks to this video, I finally get the difference between an "air to air fighter" and an "air superiority fighter", thanks for posting such a great video.