this worked so well ty, I kept trying to do what I was told before get to B with tec then luk but never reached it then saw this video have 2 weapons +S now thanks to refining with luk at C

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help ^^

Took me a couple of hours for my 2s adv garb that kept degrading. But it works... need to stick to it and become absent minded while your body is on autopilot. There is no other way of keeping your head calm while refining. Thank you Savar for this neat trick. It certainly works.

@savaronline

10 ай бұрын

Glad to help ^^

@kizmav

8 ай бұрын

My 2s garb went from +B to +C after 4 full stacks. My FULL LUK char failed to protect my garb from downgrading. Then its just frustration from then on using my FULL TECH just to bring it back to +C Any advice? 😭

As someone who has terrible luck, this actually worked and I appreciate my BS tec and LUK farmer more now. Thank you!!

@savaronline

26 күн бұрын

You are welcome ^^

Thxx for making this video, just came back to toram lol it helps a lot

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Np np ^^

*IMPORTANT* i just refine my modestia, i did the same like the vid andd...... it is 100000% WORKED and it's really WORTH IT!! THANKS A LOT MAN 👏

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help ^^

@vayneaurelius5251

Жыл бұрын

so is it dex tech for katana?

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

If u mean crafting then no. It's dex and agi

I tried this today in my Orion Sword (ns) and suprisingly it reach +S with a total of 1100pts. It took me 2 stk of Mithril Ore.

@savaronline

10 ай бұрын

Glad to help

Thanks man, this still working as of april 2024

@savaronline

2 ай бұрын

No worries ^^

Thanks bro it totally works

This is nice and all but for me I just gather 10 stacks of mithril and 3 or so stacks of antidegradation and eventually with my t4 bs will get it to 100%. Mind you this method means I have to have a lot of time on my hands but it works out 😁

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

My first success was that method too 😋

omg it's work! amazing ❤❤

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it^^

do you have to be always 250 capped? for refining? Satting and crafting?

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

For refining? No but for crafting and stating, yes because it's stronger with latest cap.

@YuYu_NDFedits

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline can't I still do it normal way cuz tbh this seems years longer and harder to do

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

@@YuYu_NDFedits and it getting more harder slowly. So i suggest u should at least keep track your bs progress first. ^^

I'm a newbie and wanna confirm something... Do refining weapons enhances Physical/Magic skills??? Or it only affects weapon basic/auto attack???

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Actually refine system gives you weapon attack bonus which will reflect upon on your main stat. Which is give u good damage in both physical/ magic skills.

@ayamayer3278

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline ok I'm still confused but Arigathanks Guzaimuch 😁👍

Nice

What about only teck smith ? Cz i hve only one char for refinning + Alchemie so far he's teck n then dex

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

That's my tech build too. And Yes tech can do +S too. But it will be time consuming or sometimes fast.

Took me 4 stack and 1hr30mins just to +S a single weapon because whenever I'm finally at +C to +A using my luck character it keeps degrading back to +D 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 HEELPPP

@savaronline

6 ай бұрын

Your real life luck also matters but don't be discourage. Ur +s refine won't leave u. Sometimes it's fast and sometimes it's slow. Also don't try to refine during orb event it sure make it even harder.

@jhontan2255

6 ай бұрын

@@savaronline What's orb event? I don't I haven't got that yet?

@savaronline

6 ай бұрын

It's orb items shop sale in game. During that time ur item degraded quickly even if u use luck. U can still refine but it will be real headache if it degraded too quickly and keep degrading.

@jhontan2255

6 ай бұрын

@@savaronline Oh is it the free 30 items pull?? :0

@savaronline

6 ай бұрын

XD no not that one. It's recently implanted but problem is from very beginning so i doubt that one is the cause

How come the sword doesn't degrade after being broken many times from +C to +S? Is there any trick to it? Sorry, new toram player. Also! Does refine benefits tank build? All I see and hear is that it gives more dps.

@savaronline

11 күн бұрын

Used full luk character which helps to reduce degradation of weapons. But it does degrade after sometime. Refines on weapons give weapon atk in dps and tanks. And other gear refinements give resistance in dps and tank

Will anti-degredation and luk build stack? Cause I don't wanna waste my anti-degredation And is this still valid? Because it's been 1 year and I'm wondering if you found a better way? How long does this usually take? Thank youu ❤

@savaronline

7 ай бұрын

Anti degradation don't stack only ore helps in stack. As far as goes with time it's varies person to person. Sometimes it's fast and sometimes it's slow but definitely succeed. As usual ns is fast and 2s is very slow. Ofc it will be fast with anti degradation since it reduces chances of degradation. It's definitely helps in 1% success rate. But doesn't help in stacking. Using 200% , 300% tickets from orb items is also helpful in success rate. It multiplies ur chances of success rate so using it on 2s is really worth it

All is cool but how come your weapon didn’t keep degrading?did you edit out the degredation?am i missing something?

@savaronline

4 ай бұрын

No i fast-forwarded easy part. It actually degraded alot during 0-c but it was flawless from c to s(luckily) That's all. XD no edit out here

Thank you it works, will this work too for 2s??

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome ^^. And yes but it will be very time consuming but worth it.

is anti deg necessary for this?

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

U can definitely use it but not much needed in this process

How many mithril ore did u use? Also what prevented them from downgrading every time you failed?

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Almost 2stack i used. Also I use luk refiner in order to prevent downgrading

@zapkhiel7063

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline did u use luk first to increase the pity? Then after reaching 600 pity u change to tech?

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I noticed with tech it still reach certain limits then it move further alot so basically reaching +c with tech in short amount of time is depending on ur real life luck which happens 10/ 100 chances or so... That's y I use luck first to reach certain limits first then use tech to reach +c quickly and reduce selection of ore and equipment over and over again with luck. Well using tech early in ns equipment is worth a shot but for ns it might frustrating if it degrade too much xD

@zapkhiel7063

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline you got any easier way to lvl up tech char cuz it's kinda hard to stat when under lvl

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Well I am afraid tech character has no shortcuts. U can only make him dps and do runs and use mq to gain lvls in appropriate time. Bow is appropriate way to do it and highest rate of surviving. Use mq when u needed boss in some extend and do mini boss farm since it's slightly efficient than boss farm

Broooo it didn't worked 2nd time (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠) at first it worked but the 2nd weapon I started forging from +c it went upto +a but then kept decreasing upto 7-8 whyyyyyy (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠) then I used my vit again and nothings happening

@savaronline

4 күн бұрын

I always said it is a fast way but ur real luck can also influence its speed. During that time u can do 2 things. -One just stop for Time being and do refine later -2nd just keep going cos that bad luck is over once it reaches certain pity(blue) refine lvl Lastly never give up.

@aweeb9643

4 күн бұрын

Hey bro you know what i succeeded tho it took my more ore then usual + time sorry for my comment .... Please read this reply instead of 2-3 stks it took me 5-6 so I was worried that something might've gone wrong

@savaronline

4 күн бұрын

Glad to know. It is sometimes fast and sometimes slow but success is waiting in the end^^

@aweeb9643

4 күн бұрын

@@savaronline honestly it took me 3-4 hours +

@aweeb9643

4 күн бұрын

@@savaronline will keep on mind ! (⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠) And thanks as always you read my comment and reply so quickly !!!! Thanks

What if it degrades to +D

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Keep trying so it got c again. And keep doing until +s

@senkokyun3356

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline got it ma dude... Finally refined to +S... I was about to give up, then i found your video. Blessings be with you fam

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help ^^

Btw i got questions what's the point of +s i mean i just don't understand the system of it

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

It boost your weapon power which increases your overall skill DMG. And + S has max boost in weapon like it increases+240% weapon attack

@megumeme

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline ohh i see how about armor and adds why we need to refine those

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Because refining add and armour increase resistance which is quite helpful on tank build and other

Hey I want to ask my weapon is +S/0pt Is that bad?

@savaronline

3 ай бұрын

No it's fine. It was probably equipment before the new implementation. Besides +s is +s so don't worry

Bro why it didn't go down after +c?

@savaronline

2 ай бұрын

Call it real life luk which we all have it but it doesn't strike always xD

Wth, me got S after almost 3k pity

how to level up tec character? im newbie :(

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Leveling tech character is easy if you have a cap lvl character but if you don't have it then it's little difficult not impossible 1) have friends & join guild to use strong mercenaries for battle like 12k- 15k atk and 8k hp should be enough. 2) go to niesel mountain for lvl1- 37 3) go to the empress tomb area and join pt for bone dragon hunt. For lvl 37 - 55 4) go to mochelo hard lvl for lvl55 -57. Use mercenary there. 5)then flare Volg hard and nm for lvl 57-80 join pt there. 6) metal stinger mini boss lvl80-91 7)go back to flare Volg ultimate mode lvl 91-99 8) don yeti mini boss from lvl 99-112 And u done. By that time u will get enough stat for tech. Or U can do main quest for lvl if u just beginner. Which gives u more game experience and mechanisms understanding.

Level 100+ character TEC can S or need high level?

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Yes it can. Only need full Tech. And skills. Level doesn't matter for +S

@TatsukiZen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

I use tech until +D. C-S use luk. And just need 5mins xD

@savaronline

3 ай бұрын

Already tried xD

Well i did 2s +S also🙃

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

U r the man among man Just like me xD 🤭

@yomi6030

Жыл бұрын

Same here

tec is not needed any more, mithril and full luck is anough and faster

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

All hail spamming xD

@mas_dul_gaming

2 жыл бұрын

Tec for 1-e. E-S for lux

What does luk do in refining anyways?

@boomerangcowboy5801

2 жыл бұрын

Less likely for refine level to degrade(reduce) when refine fails(anvil break)

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Full luk refiner help you to reduce degradation in some extend. For example if your equipment is +B it won't become +C Or +D easily. Also after +B success rate always 1℅ no matter what build u use. So using full luk is more efficient than full tech

Does a full 255 luk character require ?

@savaronline

8 күн бұрын

Yes. For fast refinement. And it's not too much work. Need full luk and lvl1 refine. That's all

@aweeb9643

8 күн бұрын

@@savaronline thanks !

@savaronline

8 күн бұрын

I am happy to help ^^

If i use an auto clicker while refining will i get banned?

@savaronline

9 ай бұрын

Yes. It's the 3rd pt app which is prohibited to use. So u will be banned at some point

Is it doable even if I use full tech?

@savaronline

Ай бұрын

Sure it does. In fact some people do it but it will take more time in 2s because of degradation so choose which method best for u wisely so u don't waste too much ^^

Still not patient enough to use mithril 🗿

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Can't be helped. Use orichalcum then xD

@kgggdw6309

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline use HPO

Worry not, this guide wont last long. At most till anniv 7

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Let's see what will happens. Although i think that too but i already have counter measure so no worries xD

@faucetpower1208

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline there's notice about it alrdy. Cap 250, new tier ds&md, refine adjustments, etc.

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't expect less from GM. I'll say just bring it on, we will do something about it somehow again 🤭🤭

@faucetpower1208

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline nt much changed, beside how pts worked.

@faucetpower1208

2 жыл бұрын

And some pts gain from ores

Do i also have to hav dex stat?

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Only full Tech is important there for refining then after full luck.

@eraser4744

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline bro ur success rate is much higher than mine

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Is that so but dex only affects item difficulty level not refining. I use dex because i want to do dps properly for pt & crafting bowguns too

@eraser4744

Жыл бұрын

I see thnks for replying 😀

@eraser4744

Жыл бұрын

@@savaronline bdw is it profitable? I'm still new to it😅

I just kept doing with luck without end

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

It also works no doubt about it.

What skill does luk refiner need

@savaronline

10 ай бұрын

U need blacksmith skill. There u will see refine skill and make sure to get full luk or tech as a main stat

@kingkirito

10 ай бұрын

@@savaronline refine skill LV 1 only for luck refine ?

@savaronline

10 ай бұрын

Yes

@kizmav

8 ай бұрын

Is it a mistake if you have refine lvl 10 on full luk instead of lvl 1?

@savaronline

8 ай бұрын

Mostly yes because luk refiner has bad degradation rate like 1% even with lvl 10 so making it lvl 1 is wise choice.

Also remind them not to use magic hammer it can destroy weapon

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

It can destroy anything except arrow and rings xD

@Der-Roni

Жыл бұрын

​@@savaronline no it destroy rings, i tried with a 84 success rate and it freaking FAILED

Can we sell npc items after refining them ?

@savaronline

Ай бұрын

No u can't. Because npc items r untradable, u can only use them after refine and if it gets outdated then u can discard it but u can't sell them.

@aweeb9643

Ай бұрын

@@savaronline then how about from the current ngnl event peoples are selling jibril diary ? I'm confused

@savaronline

Ай бұрын

Have u heard about tradable shield dye? When it's tradable u will see ur name on it. It's just like this, Some of the events drop that items which is tradable and ur name on it along with stat. So if u get that item which has ur name on it then that weapon and sub items is tradable. That's what they are selling rn from ngnl event. So it's not always but sometimes.

@aweeb9643

Ай бұрын

@@savaronline so how do I sell the jibril diary ( staff ) now , I've a lots ? I'm sorry for asking stupid questions and bothering your time but could you please help me ...

@savaronline

Ай бұрын

Don't worry. Whether ur questions r stupid or harmful it doesn't matter. My motto is to never let my viewers go empty handed or at least I want to help them as best as I can which makes me happy too. First check ur staffs, if u see ur ign in it and u don't see any sentence like 'untradable' then it means u can trade it for sell through consignment board or player. If u don't see any ign in it and it's also says untradable sentence then it means all those can't be sell through board and players. Or u can sell that staff app through alchemy if it's worth it. Some PPL buy apps too with a good price if u check the board.

did they nerf the refining system? i'm at 1000+ pt and i'm stuck at +7 💀💀💀

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Nope they didn't. It's just the final product of timing still depends on actual luk but getting it guaranteed. It could be happened in 1500 or 15000 points.

legit ang saya kapag naka +S ka 🤣🤣🤣

@savaronline

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome 👀

Is this still working?

@savaronline

2 ай бұрын

Well it sure does.

@legendofwatcher366

2 ай бұрын

@@savaronline I got system error just now said failed to complete operation

@legendofwatcher366

2 ай бұрын

@@savaronline why is that?

@savaronline

2 ай бұрын

That's strange. I never got msg like that. It could be a game glitch 🤔

@legendofwatcher366

2 ай бұрын

@@savaronline ohh.. I dunno I try restarting the game but it does say it again

Ru indian

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Does this work with armor too?

@savaronline

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Selling higgh atk weap+600pts will ne good business 🤣

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

Lol Price already messed up. Now even +s hardly any profit for someone.

@shushigaming288

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline thats the reason i left 🤣

@savaronline

2 жыл бұрын

U r not alone but getting back is not impossible either xD

@shushigaming288

2 жыл бұрын

@@savaronline 🤣

Real pain when it degerate 🥲

@savaronline

6 ай бұрын

Totally, genuinely agreed👍