Imagine a lvl 57 item being bis. And you crafted it yourself! After finding the recipe for it! That's the game we loved...

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

It gets worse than that. Pre-dire maul people use level 30 and 40 something blue boes as some bis. Inventors focal sword from Mara is also used at bis

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

@Marek-Martin Matyska bloodvine is not out upon launch

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

@Marek-Martin Matyska I am not saying it makes it better .... I'm saying they come out at different times, so you can't really compare

@Revolver9

5 жыл бұрын

@Marek-Martin Matyska Wowhead doesn't show the correct patch date for vanilla items.

@Blurppe

5 жыл бұрын

For Feral DPS I believe BIS wep is a drop from Gnomer, like level 29 maybe?

Love the effort you put into your videos. I played vanilla as a rogue but will be playing classic as a warlock. I plan on raiding in as good a guild I can get into, and your videos are helping me on that path!

Thank you so much for this! I never took the time to go deep into strategy, and really want to play a more thoughtful game this time around.

Alive, thank you very much for putting together this guide! I also really appreciated the video that you made with Tipsoutbaby. You da man!

Very informative, and I loved the chill vibe of the video

Great guide man! Came here through Tips, totally worth it. More warlock and Classic WoW content please!

Hey - I just wanted to come back to this vid, and thank you for the hard work you put in during these times. You inspired me to be a lock, and I ended up reaching all my goals, and then some.

mate I really enjoy your videos. thank you! I used to be a warlock player since day one of WoW and quit playing after WotlK. Vanilla and BC were my favourite times.

Bravo, very simple introduction guide overview. Smarter then other classic warlocks I see. I see while I obsess over my top 50 world ranking in BFA, that others can ensure a new generation can begin anew in classic. Thank you. -K

Bro, using your guide to get ready for hard-core, and it is absolutely perfect! Thank you for providing the information. Majority of us want to know!

Just started playing vanilla for the first time two weeks ago. While I do understand the efficiency and advantage acquired by researching, guide videos, and making predetermined lvling and end game routes, I still try to waver from doing as much research as possible cuz i like to figure things out as I go. Something about learning my character on my own is simply gratifying and influences a lot of my decisions. BUT I DIGRESS, I hit lvl 37 on my main last night, warlock, and found myself with more and more questions. My curiousity peaked as we all know vanilla is exponentially more time consuming and difficult in almost every aspect of the game so it was hard for me to justify not looking for some certainty in the decisions ive made so far. This video is the most accurate depiction of warlock progression simply put into words. Now its going to be hard to justify playing any of my alts for some time. I definately picked the right class. Immediately liked and subscribed man keep it up. Oh and ty for the engineering tip, wouldve never thought tbh. 🤘

Been watching a ton of your videos since I decided to roll Gnome Warlock for classic after watching you on Tipsouts channel. Awesome stuff and really informative.

@Demiurge13

5 жыл бұрын

lol same here

excellent video. my reference point for everything warlock. thanks for sharing your expertise!

Background music: Ofelia's Dream Also great guide

@Lordveine

4 жыл бұрын

Worse guilde in history,, i just want to cry when i see hes demon specc

You have a real mastery of the Classic content. Really impressive and high quality. Keep it up

That break down you did with Tips out was feckin fantastic. I'm so happy you're putting guides out!!! I've been playing a warlock since Wrath, and I still find all class engaging and rewarding; affliction for all the interactions and nuance. And demonology, currently is like a class fantasy nerdgasm, a raid groups with of demons all around, and enough depth to keep gameplay engaging. Destro isnt as hum drum as it used to be...proccing girthy, throbbing chaos bolts is SO satisfying, but it's still just button mashing to me otherwise. I never got to experience vanilla, I've never even played on a private server! I'm very excited to have the chance.

@TheKristianbk

5 жыл бұрын

Tips is a scrub.. soo much BS and lack of research in his guides/vidoes

Awesome dude, good information and very helpful. Would love to see more :)

the cadence of your voice is so soothing lmfao these are top tier vids too. really good info. so excited to jump into classic. I quit after BC. Vanilla was the real wow.

Thank you so much for all your guides!

Very soothing video, you put alot of work in it, thanks alot.

Warlock had the potential for some strong DPS back in the day, but they were held back by threat issues and the limited number of debuff slots available on each boss.

@Jaricko

2 жыл бұрын

Season of mastery is coming, and its removing the debuff limit.

@naptime_riot

Жыл бұрын

I always made sure all my DoTs were on everything but the boss. I'd stack it up on whatever the off-tanks were on, and then I'd single target MT. Warlocks do insane multi-target dps with just instant cast.

this guys knows a lot - big recommend - knowledgebombs on point

i knew all of this already but I liked the video, fun to watch and i like the editing. Sub earned

That was the best class guide for wow I have ever watched in the 13 years ive been playing, bravo

i was ready to rip this shit apart like the other warlock videos about classic on youtube, but this was really well made and accurate. good job man edit: only thing missing is the fact that the blade of eternal darkness (epic bop dagger from Princess in maraudon) can proc off of your hellfire - and do the proc's damage (100 iirc) to each target hit by that hellfire tick that the proc is triggered off of. so if you're hellfiring, say 10 targets, and on the next hellfire tick BoED procs, it will do a bonus 1000 damage on that tick, 100 to each target. just some helpful info for hound packs in MC and some other raids, maybe even for DME farming.

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I didn't reach rank 1 lock pve on multiple servers for no reason. Blade of eternal darkness is definitely a topic to bring up. Especially for early game usage. However, this is meant to be a "basics" sort of guide

@MoiledSpilk

5 жыл бұрын

@@IamAliveTv for sure! Awesome guide dude.

Imagine someone making a vanilla wow guide video that ACTUALLY knows what they're talking about. That's this video.

@hankapaldum6027

5 жыл бұрын

not gonna say he doesn't, but for pvp, orc is the better race because of the Hardiness. as far as WotF goes, pvp trinket removes fear but not stuns. you can also dispel fear with the felhunter. also, 25% basically means every 4th stun will be resisted and stun is the most powerful CC. does stunlock ring a bell? it wont if youre an orc!

@Erati243

5 жыл бұрын

@@hankapaldum6027 you do realize that "stun locking" was more based on disorients than it was stuns, right?

@hankapaldum6027

5 жыл бұрын

@@Erati243 dude, it literally says it in the name. If a stun misses there is no "lock" part. Chaarges, cheapshot, kidney shot to name the deadly ones. Thats not including Talent effects, items, proccs, trinkets.

@Erati243

5 жыл бұрын

@@hankapaldum6027 come on dude, lets be real here, stun lock refers to rogue, and as i said it was CALLED stunlock but it only worked because of blind and sap. if you think differently you didnt play vanilla.

@hankapaldum6027

5 жыл бұрын

@@Erati243 but hardiness refers to all stuns. And blind and sap are 2, cheap shot, kidney are 2 too. Also much more used. Shame you pulled the " you never played vanilla" card so soon and completely disregarded the whole wotf comparison.

Imagine a guy with a voice sounding like he's sad putting a sad music on his video. I didn't cry ( just kiddin, good vid man)

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

You didn't cry? I'll act more sad next time

Nice video again, keep with the good working!

Maybe late to the party here... just caught Alive on Tipsout. Come straight over and subbed. I was lucky in Vanilla, I had a good warlock teach me a lot. Always willing to learn more :)

I wish I had this type of guide back when I was playing Vanilla lol

That sneaky picture of Tipsout made my day xD

@NathanMc

5 жыл бұрын

As a little tip!

Original Will of the Forsaken was so good. It does more than just break Fear and the other effects, it makes you immune to them for 5 seconds. So while it's good to break out of a fear, it's even better to just weave it between your casts when the Fear is coming since it's off the GCD and be immune to the fear completely.

Late game - Shadow Bolt? More like Shadow Bomb.

Played full destro lock spec and boomkin through vanilla. Entered the ventrilo void and mastered the art of demon summoning.

Dont forget about wizard oils for dps consumables. Also, sapper charges are off gcd, which is what makes them even more amazing, allowing you to sapper and hellfire at the same time.

need more lock vids now bro, ur the best lock i ever saw

2:07 I believe humans gain 10% more rep which is amazing in both PVE and PVP.

Super useful video, thank you!

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

I can go far more in depth if you'd like. Feel free to reach out to me if you'd like any more information

@antoniaparish150

5 жыл бұрын

I am AliveTv thank you!

@patrikpass2962

5 жыл бұрын

@@IamAliveTv so did you get any? ;)

@ActiveInsight.

5 жыл бұрын

@@patrikpass2962 😂😂

Ive only seen 5 mins so far but this is clearly the most comprehensive guide ive seen for classic locks, thanks so much for this! I know you PVE more but any chance of doing a PVP talents guide or something?

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

In the future, yeah

I have no interest in Warlock, yet here I am viewing this awesome video.

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words mate!

Hello Alive great guide once again m8 so informative!!! One question tho how is good to start with proffs? Tailoring/Eng at start or take Engi after a while? I'm asking cause i dunno where to get my node supplys to raise it if i dont have a pala farmer already :P

I personally loved being SM/Ruin in classic since you could pvp, pve grind (lot of that in vanilla), raid and 5 man all with the one spec. It's very flexible and your tank will appreciate you giving him/her blood pact unlike those "selfish DS/Ruin warlocks". I literally had tanks and healers tell me exactly that. As for professions, you have sold me on tailoring and engineering. I was half-thinking to drop tailoring for engineering later, but why not both!

@Redstripe921

4 жыл бұрын

How do u get the gold and materials to supply both professions ?

@A3racada3ra

2 жыл бұрын

@@Redstripe921 Well, either your farm the gold (as a Warlock, farming is pretty easy) or you level up a second char for mining.

Great guide!

great video, very helpful

what a nice vid, thanks a lot

Amazing video. Can't thank you enough.

Thanks! Subscribed

Great video mate

Could you tell me if i need the bloodvine goggles also? i cant find much information about them but they seem really good and i could still get the 3 set bonus for blodvine while using robe's of the void?

Thank bro good job really ;) thumb up !! OFC

What's your classic launch plan? I didnt start until cata but I heard about the lore and that locks were a complicated kind of fun and mained it then. But I also plan on running a lock first

I've always wondered since I never played warlock in classic: Just HOW bad is the threat issue? Just stopping casting for 2-3 seconds or is it literally 10 seconds downtime until you can even do anything? I can't choose between mage and warlock and this might be crucial to decide cause I think it takes me out of the experience too much if I'm not doing anything. On the other hand, mages will be very popular and I always like the underdog classes in any game so warlock seems more appealing in that regard.

For professions do you recommend us learning Tailoring and Mining while leveling? We store all the mats needed to get 300+ engineering before swapping over to that? If you recommend that we purchase the mats then are you saying tailoring will be profitable enough to support us leveling engineering without grinding/gathering the mats on our own?

@Findusus1

4 жыл бұрын

I'm also interested in an answer to this 😊

If you are running SM-Ruin with imp out, do you use his firebolt in the dps rotation?

Great guide.

probably wont get a reply because its an old video, but whats the cinematic playing in the back round at around the 4:18 mark, I dont recognize it and would love to watch it now.

@lindseygardner440

5 жыл бұрын

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Any new Lock stuff coming soon? Also what are you thoughts on Drain tanking as a leveling option?

Great Video, but I'd think these types of videos would work even better with a more chill title. Pretty sure the target audience for these essays dont usually click on youtube-y clickbait :) Keep these up!

@__-kr2kb

3 жыл бұрын

Du Lümmel kommst jetzt erstmal auf Lakeshire und schließt dich unserer Gilde an :D

Great video. Based on my 3 MC runs so far, Warlock DPS lags behind Warrior, Mage, Rogue and Hunter. It's fine because we still bring alot to raids but for Phase 1 I've accepted I'm not topping charts in MC.

Gj alive. more of this :)!

One major problem with Warlock is the threat gain. They really lack ways to not over agro, the risk of two shadowbolt crits in a row on a target with already high agro is there. For alliance you can reduce your threat abit with a paladin blessing. Abit harder for horde.

@Kahrdis

5 жыл бұрын

i wouldnt be surprised if they give the shaman the anti aggro totem or make paladins available as a selectable class from the start. Alliance has gotten most of the first kills over horde bcs of this mechanic, as soon as horde had paladins it all turned around.

@blackyvertigo

5 жыл бұрын

@@meberg6958 the dps advantage of windfury totem with late game rogues/warriors can't be understated.

@meberg6958

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackyvertigo indeed. And with rogues and fury warriors both being top 3 dps classes in late game vanilla, windfury is actually insane. Especially for warriors with almost infinite rage.

@blackyvertigo

5 жыл бұрын

@@meberg6958although alliance warriors always do more since they get blessing of salvation and humans can rock less hit rating on their gear. alliance warriors topped the charts in all pserver logs.

dude i really search a lot a good fucking video who can help me to undestand more about warlock i didnt find it. now i saw this diamond video, 5 years later haha. take my damm like!

as a lock who's herb/alch the invulnerability pot makes me think I can hellfire big aoes (horde so no BoP) especially in dungeons.

Are the +% shadow dmg buffs really additive? I thought they might've been multiplicative because of seperate sources. If that'd be the case, we'd look at 227,7% dmg instead of 160%

Does Any know how to make sure not to waste nightfall proccs?

Still love your guide. You're the best

A question, I am planning to play warlock for classic and I've never played the class before. You mentioned Ruin makes your SB crit for 100% 'more' dmg. So if I usually crit 1k, it will now crit 2k? Or is it, I usually crit 1.5k without Ruin and with Ruin I crit 2k? Is it "increased crit dmg bonus" or overall "total dmg"?

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

The crit goes from 150% to 200%

Any chance you could go over a Dungeon PvE guide for warlocks? What spec should I use in dungeons? What spells can I use here that I normally don't in raids? Are there any notable synergies with other classes? What key dungeon drops should I keep an eye out for? Are there any dungeons that have unique Banish and Enslave Demon usage?

can someone plz tell me the hit cap after which crit is to be stacked up thanks!

instant sub!

Good news homie the tailoring robes will be bop in Classic

Im not even interesterd in playing a Warlock and i really enjoyed this video

@petercarioscia9189

5 жыл бұрын

Man, idk how anyone doesn't love warlocks. It's absolutely my favorite class in wow. Out of curiosity, what's your class of choice?

@RoAoG

5 жыл бұрын

@@petercarioscia9189 im a warrior main priest alt player love tanking and healing soooooo much, never been a fan of pure dps

Great guide Alive. Which one is the best spec when lvling? Demo or affliction?

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

Afflic mixed with demo

Awesome video. Warlock mains ftw

Haha I'm at 0:02 and for the first second I thought you were Milo Yiannopoulos

For warlock leveling spec I was wondering if it would make sense to go 2/2 improved healthstone and 3/5 Demonic Embrace instead of 5/5 Demonic Embrace? Seems to me that when you are leveling and don't have endgame gear having 20% stronger healthstone could be better than 6% more total stamina. Ran the numbers and would give 50 more health from lvl 22 stone, 100 for lvl 34, 160 for lvl 46. Not sure how the total amount of stamina would look at these levels. So should I just go 5/5 embrace or does 2/2 healthstone make any sense? Also your pets health isn't based on your own health right? So it would get stronger with 5/5 embrace rather than 3/5. Maybe stupid question but asking anyway.

@Sporrik

5 жыл бұрын

As a warlock, health is a resource. Treat it like you would your mana. Would you rather get a static 15% increase to mana at all times, or only a 9% increase with the ability to chunk it every now and then. Because you can use drain life to restore health, having the max health increase is way more valuable as you can drain for longer without capping, which also allows you to life tap for more without getting low. That means you can have much higher combat efficiency because you never run out of health or mana to keep draining from. With health stones, you *do* get a chunkier boost to health, but you can only life tap so often because your max health is lower, which results in you have less overall mana aka less combat effectiveness.

@Ratatosk80

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sporrik Thanks for the reply. Makes sense. Very helpful.

one thing that isn't in here something that could be done during vanilla, not sure about if it's still able to be done in classic was to sacrifice your succubus and then have a healer res it or jumper cables it if you were an engineer. You would keep the sacrifice buff of 15% shadow damage and you would get to keep your succubus

Is the talent build linked the best build for high dps in PVE?

"Little TIP" made me laugh :D Respect to both you and Tipsoutbaby ! good vid (Y)

what i want to see is a guide on making gold with a warlock. There's tons for a rogue or a mage for example farming dungeons for gold. Is there anything similar that a warlock can do or are they sol?

@Sporrik

5 жыл бұрын

This is a little late response, but you can use a lot of the same farming methods as hunters and mages (Maraudon and DME).

Can confirm, my best friend is LIP potions

Subbed!

One of the best warlock guides I have seen. Warlocks have some serious flaws and strengths you did a great job of highlighting both. You didn't play the class up or down. Better than "ZOMG warlock is the greatest PVP or PVE god tier class". I played a Warlock main in Vanilla and in most of WoW. I will be playing a warlock again; I just can't resist it.

@27648281

4 жыл бұрын

YES! Warlock is unique and the only class I would love to level all over again! The dots, the fear and most importantly life taps are the charms that I just can’t resist. The excitement of one shoting people in destruction build and the pleasure seeing mobs get killed by dots while running away from you is just perfect!

@Xsetsu

4 жыл бұрын

@@27648281 Yep, don't get me wrong I am playing a warlock.

Holy shit, you actually know what you are talking about... I have never seen that when it comes to warlocks! And I actually like your voice, normally I have a hard time with the American accent. No offense to any Americans, it is just a subjective quirk of me which is really annoying because there are many Americans who produce great content, I just cannot bear to listen to it. You do an exceptional job at presenting the facts behind warlock raiding. You even point out that things like Expansive Mind is a very small buff, where most content creators will just demand it. Because you are actually good at this, I kinda wished the video was double in length with more details. However, I just noticed it is almost 20 minutes! It felt like 10 because it was interesting and well paced all the way through. This is the perfect video for describing to newcomers how warlocks raid and whenever one of my friends asks about it I will link this to them. I do think though, that you could easily make a very detailed video on the quirks of raiding as a warlock. It definitely sounds like you have been doing it before, so like me, you probably know that there are a lot of interesting details to it. Lastly, you are a very small channel,

Why improved Curse of Weakness in SM/Ruin? When would you use it?

@sekzor7150

5 жыл бұрын

Many raids will use it on a boss encounter to ease the load of healers. Amplified CoW is very good at keeping the healers mana much more full and ready for any Oh-Shit scenarios

Hes alive :o

Still cant pick my damn spec i really wanna go full destro but cant raid in it as most of the raids have fire resist

With threat being a big issue, do you swap between max rank and down ranked shadow bolts to try and keep your threat lower?

@coreymcdonald2633

5 жыл бұрын

Nah just spam shadowbolt, keep a threatmeter, and when you get close to the tanks stop for a sec. I usually don’t have problems with threat unless I crit like 3-4 times in a row. If you do end up pulling Aggro just LIP.

@astronemir

5 жыл бұрын

@@coreymcdonald2633 does LIP instantly drop threat or do you just stop dpsing for a bit. Because pulling threat can fuck up positioning.

@sekzor7150

5 жыл бұрын

@@astronemir It stops any threat from accumulating for the duration of the effect. So when the LIP wears off, you have the exact amount of threat that you had right be4 you used it. Any spells cast during this effect creates zero threat as well. So basically you pop LIP and continue to cast all while hoping the few seconds of LIP is enough for your tank to pick the target back up. Whether you stop casting or not, once the LIP wears off, you are right back where you left off. This makes it pointless to stop casting during LIP. When I used to get close to the tank's threat I would just lifetap a few times instead of risking a string of unlucky crits. Raid doesn't wipe and you end up with more mana to burn through. Win/Win situation

One thing worth to point out. Sm increases the base damage of your shadow spells. So it does not scale with spellpower. Meanwhile the touch of shadow from sacrificing your succubus, increases you overall shadow damage by 15%. This is also why SM scales better early on when you have low spell power gear. And DS outclassing SM once you have a bigger SP floor.

SM/Ruin is better for dungeons i guess? Because you can actually make use of your dots?? And DS/Ruin is better for raids to maximize SB damage?

Played a undead warlock name Zig in classic was at the top of my guilds DPS never had an issue whatsoever. Just held off until I knew the tank had Agro and then I let loose what time it got to me they were dead. Seat of Distraction was freaking awesome on crowds

Since you made bouth a mage and warlock vid. on the same topic. Wich of the 2 are the best end game vanilla pve toon.

@poffo954

5 жыл бұрын

@Cole Marano not from what i heard. Im talking about locks and mages in Aq40/naxx gear

@poffo954

5 жыл бұрын

@Cole Marano Fair, u seem to know :). i played mage in real vanilla up to and some naxx like most semi core guilds but then tbc came and fucked it all up. Now i dont know if i should go my old 31arcane 20 fire(mainely pvp or pick the lock :)

I am confused, I like SM build but isn't MC and BRD fire based and would this make destro ability's useless ?

@durendenmp812

4 жыл бұрын

The destro talents you use for Ds/ruin are focused around shadowbolt.

@rbubbarayp4021

4 жыл бұрын

@@durendenmp812 , Thanks

How is warlock compared mage in pvp solo and massive? Having ahrsh time deciding.

@foxmulder8955

4 жыл бұрын

For solo pvp, warlock is top tier, just like mage. Has a nice matchup against mage too. For big fights, mage might have an edge because of better AoE.

I am a altaholic, i cant decide which of my lvl 20s to main or if i should try a paladin, rogue or warlock, priest lol

Idk what it is man, but I love your voice.

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

You might be the only one lol. Everyone comments saying my voice is monotone and makes them want to sleep. 😭

I would advise that when making your 1st character, you take Tailoring and Enchanting. You can craft tailored items to level it up, then use those same items to level up Enchanting by Disenchanting the crafted tailoring items. If you try to run with Tailoring and Engineering, you will be screwed because of how many different materials you will need for it. Engineering will primarily need mining as a second profession.

@IamAliveTv

5 жыл бұрын

This is a guide on pve. Engineering and tailoring benefit you the most for pve performance. The professions do not need to compliment each other with materials. There are plenty of other ways to earn gold aside from professions.

@jeremywright5036

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, don't do it on a warlock, you will regret it. It costs a lot of gold to level enchanting, gold you will only get if you can convince people to give those early raid enchant drops to YOU. Who do you think is going to get it. The warlock, one of the best farming classes in the game or any of these guys: resto druid, holy priest, holy paladin, protection warrior. Gold was a big deal in vanilla, support classes suck at farming, they will get priority over you. Instead of trying to compete with those guys, help them instead - that way you will have access to all the enchants you want without even having the skill.

@jameshill2450

5 жыл бұрын

It's meant to be a guide to endgame min-maxing, not leveling, so budget or convenience aren't taken into consideration. From the practical side, you probably want to level as mining/engineer until you get 300 then drop mining for tailoring. Maybe make a bank alt to save the higher level cloth you get along the way.

@bassisku

5 жыл бұрын

Enchanting is garbage for leveling and for 1st character. Especially if you don't have a guild to funnel you. Enchanting wont make any money until very late and you will have to sink tons of money on it. Every guild should have 1-3 enchanters. If you aren't that guy then don't get it.

can you do a pre raid BiS and raid BiS?

Engineering does give you greens lenses of shadow wrath which is bis for phase 1

Most damage calculations in classic are multiplicative - warlocks actually get more than 60% increased damage from the combination of debuffs at 14:33.