I love your collection. Stereo Heaven on earth! I think the Advents should get a higher style score. They are beauties.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

I know. Maybe I should setup some kind of voting system. Hmmm. 🙂

Great !! I really like the list you provided. It’s easy to follow.

Great easy to understand graphs. Great reviews. I love the 70's floor speakers.

@stereoniche

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Once I complete a few more reviews, I will put out another update summary. Going forward, I now plan to use the Pioneer TZ9 as my High End reference speaker, so my plan is to update several prior videos.

ADS made some of the best speakers in in the 70's and 80's time period. I have the L420 and the L1290. Excellent clarity and sound stage.

I had the Advent Large Utility speaker in 1975. I ran it with an Harmon Kardon HK 300? My first ever “mod” was taking a piezo electric tweeter & cross over from the Dahlquist DQ-10 & set it on top on a L bracket. Loved the sizzle. My buddy had the Heresy’s & a small Marantz receiver…I always loved his college system. Of course my other buddy had Crown amp/preamp and JBL L 100s…that was the bad ass system at Clemson in the mid 70s in Johnstone Hall.

Excellent Video and Speaker comparison. Really loving your videos. Very well explained and lovely speakers in this collection

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Michael! You also have a new subscriber!

@MichaelYates

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexAlex-lo7sx I only wish Alex, Scott has some great gear here and a pleasure watching

@MichaelYates

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche Thanks Scott, you have some fanastic units here in your collection and going to be a pleasure in watching you talk all about them in the coming video's.

Hello, thanks a lot for this very good review of vintage speakers. I have a pair of Spica TC 60 (about 26 years old) which still sound amazing. They replaced a pair of Spica Angelus (fantastic as well). I’m always thinking of replacing them but don’t manage to take the decision…Greetings from Brussels.Ignacio

what a great channel; wonderful presenter and great content 👏👏👏

@stereoniche

5 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

That was really good I enjoyed that thank you very much. Nothing like an audio Journey Back in Time

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. I'll need to do an update to it once I complete the current round of reviews, so stay tuned.

Great channel! Hoping to see my vintage Sansui cabs reviewed.

@thefreestylefrEaK

24 күн бұрын

No thanks.

Great video. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Klipsch Heresy and Frazier Concerto compare with each other. I'm a long time Klipsch fan and recently recapped my Heresy Is, which made a difference. However, I've also been a long time admirer of Frazier and have found it difficult finding any information on them, let alone finding a set of speakers. Thanks again and I look forward to your next video!

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

I have considered that head to head comparison. While I have the tube amps in place, may be good to do it.

Love see you evaluate mine been around long as Advent my SB_7000-A Technics Linear Phase Speakers to me it was true to life as live and heard multiple times reviews say good thing i know what think like compare to scale other than Very Large Size, interest in sound value ..

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to find a set, been on my radar for a good long while.

Hi Scott. Love the show. I was wondering if you either owned, or were familiar with ENERGY SPEAKER SYSTEMS 22 REFERENCE CONNOISSEUR FLOORSTANDING SPEAKERS? I have owned Advents & AR in the past, but am very happy with these Energy 22’s I acquired last Winter. Honestly wasn’t familiar with them before finding locally and purchasing. Thank you.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Hi there. I know the brand, however, I have not owned any of their models... yet. 🙂

Very cool walk down memory lane!

Love this video. Have a pair of Heybrook HB1 owned them since 1984 and loved them. Have been thinking of the Large Advent as an upgrade. Do you have any experience with he Heybooks? What are your thoughts?

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter! Unfortunately, I have no experience with any Heybrook models, but hopefully some day.

Love your channel, im subbed now and i expect you to grow many more subscribers if you keep it up, just came across it and i believe your doing everything us audio nuts wanna see, shootouts are very fun. Having owned half of those id have ro say thays fair, the heresy is very underwhelming, any 12 inch driver should be able to ger down below 50 hz. Id love to see the AR3a in here, some snell type e models, more polks, some fortes, dynaco a50, dahlquist dq-8, dq-12 and dq-20 and just too many other great models to mention, im looking forward to it.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! Lots more to come as I have only scratched the surface of my current collection and it is still growing. I do have more Polk models and many AR models (will be a series), but I need some examples from Dynaco and Dahlquist. I had some Fortes, but that was before I started the channel, but I am sure they will be back in the mix again.

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

@@stereoniche yessir, I'll be watchin, I know everyone wants to see the famous dq-10, but the catch there is the dq-10 was not the best of the group, Carl Marchisotto didn't design that model, he designed the 8,12,20 models and used poly caps from the factory, no corners cut, think in terms of top tier separation,tonality and imaging, just a perfect all arounder. Also don't sleep on the Snell type e, or any Snell really, phenomenal. Some good German brands would be great as well, missions, celestions, ls3/5a, etc. Keep up the good work partner.

Cerwin Vega. "Loud is beautiful, if its clean". Still rock out to my 211's. Bought them new in '76 had them re-coned in 2002.

Nice review, thanks for the effort. I had stacked Advents and was very happy. The surprise for me is the Pioneer. For all you guys saying he should try this or that, why don't you send him a pair to try? Can't expect someone to have every speaker made. Not practical or affordable.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

I certainly do not own everything.... yet! :-)

If you don't already have some, try to acquire some Paisley Research AE-300 or 400 speakers, I now have a pair of both. They are compact, but very heavy and the sound they produce!!! Ian Paisley knew how to make speakers! Another great vid BTW!

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Unfortunately, they are quite rare, I've never seen a pair first hand, but will certainly keep looking.

One thing that's missing from your critique that I think is very important in music reproduction is dynamics. I realize there are lots of parameters you could use and you can't include all of them, but the dynamic range without compressing the peaks, whether due to efficiency or just response, is something that live music simply doesn't suffer from and is a very tell tale sign that what you are listening to isn't real. Cool to have someone still looking at vintage stuff though. There was some great products that simply weren't in the audiophile realm but too expensive for the typical consumer and faded away. Many can now be had at bargain prices if people have an idea of what to get.

Would be jamm'in those Klipschorns with that folded horn cabinet

I wish you could have reviewed the Rogers Studio 1 Monitor speakers manufactured in England. The drivers were a bextrene bass midrange driver, a Celestion Tweeter, and a KEF super tweeter.They had a very neutral sound and reproduced all types of music effortlessly. Power handling into 8 ohms was 300 watts continuous.I bought these speakers in 1984.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Sadly, I've not been able to acquire any Rogers... yet.

I have a pair of Advents , with the bull-nose front. They where great rock speakers!

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

They can do most everything quite well.

Great video! What bookshelf speaker would you recommend for fisher 400

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael. For bookshelf speakers, are you wanting a "bookshelf" from the same era as the Fisher? If so, that is on par with the size of the Advent. KLH, AR, etc. are good ones to consider. The AR4 is a smaller model from that era as well, but it will depend on your listening preferences as they can be a little laid back.

The Heresey uses the same tweeter as my homebuilt khorns. It really needs a paraeq to tame the top end. Mated to a Yamaha receiver that can accomplish that works wonders. It tames the 8khz bump and increases the 16k output.

Love my Ess Amt 1 speakers need to review.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Have yet to try them, but always read great things about them.

Would love to see a review with ADS and Dynaco A25's... Just picked up some ADS L620's and also have L810s.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Will have a review of the L710, L810 and 910, but sadly, no Dynaco's in the collection believe it or not.

@quiksr20

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche Oh man cant wait, Love the look of the massive 910s,

Be nice to see the AT series from Cerwin Vega reviewed.

@peterrichard3706

10 ай бұрын

Or the Re 30 or 38

Two speakers that I remember from the late 1970's and early 1980's that I would love to hear someone review are the Allison One and Celestion Ditton 66 or 662. I would be especially interested in how these speakers would rank compared to this group.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Indeed! Many years ago, I was hoping to get a chance at some Alison Ones. I went back and forth for three years, but still missed them. Have not run across any Celestion models, unfortunately.

@rwlewko

10 ай бұрын

@@stereoniche I know that these speakers don't come up for sale very often. I don't think that the Allison One were made in large numbers. As for the Celestions I think people who have them tend to hang on to them.

Hi, I use to have those advent back in the 80s,I just bought a pair of harman kardon 60 vintage speakers but can't find much information on line I was wondering if you know any thing about them or make a show? Thanks.

@stereoniche

4 ай бұрын

Hi there. I've never seen that model myself and they appear to be quite a nice speaker from 1992. I did find these specs: Design: 3 way tuned port, Frequency Response: 30Hz-20kHz(2db), Sensitivity: 90db/1m/2.83VRMS, Min. Power: 10 watts, Dynamic Power Handling: 200 at 10% clipping, Nominal Impedance: 6 ohms, Low Freq. Drivers: Twin 200mm graphite/polyprolylene cone, urethane suspension. 32mm Hi-temp voice coil on aluminum former. 450 gm encapsulated magnet. Mid Freq Driver: 76mm polymer impregnated dome. Special 240gm magnet. 76mm Hi-temp voice coil. Ultra wide dispersion design. High Freq Driver: 19mm aluminum alloy dome. Aluminum former, less than 3g moving mass. Ferofluid cooled Polymer suspension. Crossover:: 500Hz Linkwitz-Riley/2.8kHz Linkwitz-Riley. Dimensions: 50"/18.5"/11.5"(H/W/D). Shipping Wt. 100lbs.each.

@stereoniche

4 ай бұрын

According to some other posts, they were HK's TOTL for this series and retailed for $3k, so it was intended to be a top tier offering, but the line did not sell in great quantities so they did not last long on the market.

I think you'd love the sound from some Ditton Celestions. Hunt some down if you can.

I have a pair of Canton Karat 200s from 1986--made in West Germany. They still sound awesome.

This one might seem odd upon first consideration, but, I'd like to see you review and rate the Realistic Nova 8B. It's a very good budget speaker from the era, and it has a rather large following. It's still relatively easy to find good examples, yet they don't stay on the market very long before getting snapped up.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

I am quite familiar with them and I do have.a pair. They punch above their class and, I agree, they would be a good one to review. I'll see about moving them up the list a bit.

@georgeb1364

11 ай бұрын

I agree, and have to admit some of the speakers sold by Radio Shack were really good for the price range. I still have some Otpimus Pro-LX511 with the ribbon tweeter. Those little guys hold their own with many others costing huge amounts more. With only a 5-inch woofer they do fall short in that area but for average content Wow!

@marvinmurakami8828

11 күн бұрын

I'd like to see him review the 1st generation of the Mach One which was considered better than the 2nd generation.

Did you use the interconnect cable with the Polks? If not, you were missing a lot. Also positioning is crucial and must be according to their instructions. Just curious.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Of course! All documented in the separate review video so be sure to check it out.

I have some mid '80s Miller and Kreisel that stand toe to toe with modern equipment. Of course, they were todays equivalent of $15,000.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Have admired M&K speakers, but have yet to own any. One day! 🙂

@Audfile

Жыл бұрын

@stereoniche I got them for free a few years ago, from a buddy, didn't know what he had. Neither did I for that matter. I've got a pretty respectable menagerie of speakers at this point, but I would never sell those ones, cause they sound incredible and are extremely nice to listen to! S1B.

Hello..?...Can anyone tell me the cassette player with the equalizer on it behind the first advent speaker review "around the 3:00 minute mark" .thanks

@stereoniche

3 ай бұрын

That is a Nakamichi 1000zxl

@forttunanthehouse

3 ай бұрын

Thank you ​@@stereoniche

I have Phase Linear P-560s I love the sound they put out!! Crisp and Clear..I've literally had all of the high end brands!! Sold all of them!!to keep the phase linear p-560s I have 3 sets all matching!! I've paid as little as 55 bucks for a pair!! There worth 500 to 600 a peace or more!!

Love the video. Please do some ads,dynaco, harbeth,cerwin vega.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Got the ADS covered, still looking for the others. :-)

ADS 710 and 810 sound excellent they would give some of high end speakers of today a run for the money

Great video it’s would be cool if you could throw in pioneer hpm 100

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Many more reviews coming, then I will add them into the overall scoring.

I own a pair of ADS L710s. They out perform my 700 series B&W floor standers. ADS - while not the best know, are a fine speaker. I will be very surprised if they don’t beat the Advents.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Having listened to mine for some time, I can say that your assumption is probably correct, but will see once they are setup next to the Advents.

@michaelvaladez6570

10 ай бұрын

They were made by Braun of Germany by a astrophysicist..too bad they got bought out by Phillips I believe but a very very good speaker..advertised as " The Invisible Sound " ..set up right they did..but not meant to be played loud. A very good speaker.

@davidbartley989

10 ай бұрын

I just sold my L710s and I'm going to regret it. I had to move and don't have the space for them.

Have you considered comparing the '90's Advent Anniversary speakers against the New Large Advents? They're similar looking, but likely sonically very different, with the soft dome tweeter. Still about the same size and probably a similar woofer.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! If I ever get a pair, they will be compared.

@marvinmurakami8828

10 ай бұрын

I have the 25th Anniversary Large Advents and to me they sound great. They have solid bass that can go surprisingly deep for a 10" woofer. The midrange is good, and the soft dome tweeter produces nice detailed highs. I'd say the only place they lack a little is in the imaging. I've never heard earlier Large Advents so I can't compare how they sound.

Hands up all those that have heard of Linear Design. Not many I expect.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Can’t say I have heard of them.

I would love to see a review on the Dynaco A25, A35 or A50.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

You have any you want to send over for me to review? :-)

@patrickbolmeyer9515

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche - I do have 2 pair of Dynaco A10's but they're a little underwhelming for a Yamaha CR-2020! LOL!

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

Yessir, the dyna A50 for certain, very good.

Best speaker ever in my 30 years of hi-fi is Energy Pro monitor 22 from Canada. Awesome sound.

I wonder why I never see Ohm Walsh inverted cone speakers in any of these videos? They use to get amazing reviews.

@stereoniche

5 ай бұрын

For me, it is because every set I have run across needed work that could only be done by the factory. So I would always pass on them.

@user-dq5xx9hi4q

5 ай бұрын

@@stereoniche I see. Thank you for the information.

I’m still quite baffled by your review of the Klipschorns! Such a Low score for such an amends and incredible speaker is shocking to me! I’ve had about four of those different speakers that you rated very high, and they pale in comparison to the Klipschorns to my ears and taste! The speakers I have now are the sweet spot I believe in the heritage line, and that is the Cornwall’s! I don’t know if you have a pair, but it would be worth the audition! Another solid video🎉

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

It is, of course, all subjective, but I do realize they were not optimally placed, but I couldn't give them extra points unless I can hear it myself. If I get a chance to set them up properly, I will do another review.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

Жыл бұрын

Klipschorns are so overrated and finally someone is willing to voice it.

@keithwiebe1787

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Depends what you're objective is. Want it loud and distortionless? I've had my homebuilt ones for 35 years and love them. They do need bass boost if not using a sub and an eq to tame my horns I built for the midrange driver I'm using etc.

@davidjones7544

Жыл бұрын

I never cared for Klipsch because they never got the integration of the horn and cone right to my ears. Having owned so much audio equipment by now, I am of the mind that it is all just personal taste. Unless the craftsmanship and parts are bad and there isn't a glaring fault present, all of these brands and models are good speakers. A hell of a lot of people like Klipsch and many people do not. The fact that they've been around so long says to me they've managed to be a good value for what you get and many companies have difficulty threading that needle and they're extinct.

Two more vintage bargains you should look in to: B&W DM-7, Kef 104/2 with a kef Kube eq.

I bought my SDA 2 B's new in 1990. Wonderful room filling sound and incredible bass from the 6 1/2" drivers. Unfortunately the glue has let loose on the magnets and they have shifted, causing some rubbing on the voice coil. I'm going to attempt to fix them. In the meantime I purchased a set of Martin Logan Quest Z's, a pair of Magnepan SMG A's, and will have a pair of Cerwin Vega 25 RE's soon. I don't think any of them will sound better than the Polk's.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck on the repair. They need a solid jig to get the alignment correct.They are certainly worth getting back up to snuff.

@Nova-xu8he

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche Have you seen this done? Or know of some videos that might help?

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

@@Nova-xu8he I have only read about it. The one speaker I had with the issue, I sent it off to have it done. Speaker Exchange is a good resource to ask if they will do it.reconingspeakers.com

@Nova-xu8he

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'll check it out

Every speaker brand has a gem in the bunch. Having owned and heard many of these brands my appreciation lies with JBL, Advent, ADS, and AR.

The Polk SDA-1b was truly an extraordinary speaker. Larger then the one you have reviewed here. And additional tweeter song with two more 6 1/2 inch drivers. Taller bigger and truly a speaker I will always regret not having today.

@bigme75201

7 ай бұрын

I still regret selling my SDA CRS+ speakers with original stands. I posted a turntable on CL and someone reached out and wanted to buy the turntable and my Polks that were in the background of the pictures, I said they weren't for sale and he replied name your price and foolishly I did and he responded affirmatively. I expected him to back out of the deal but he showed up with cash in hand. Told me a story that I believed, he owned SDA CRS+ in his youth and while he was off at college his little brother sold them. Now as an adult he was on a mission to recreate his stereo system. The soundstage from a proper setup and a great recording was spectacular.

Hard to believe the Klipschorn 65. I recently purchased Pioneer HPM 150's. I would rank them higher than all but one cannot do every speaker. I also have Fortes which I adore.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Be sure to watch the full review, I denoted their limitations in that video. They are not a speaker for any situation/room.

Any interest in doing a review of a CerwinVega! Speaker? Some of them are quite good, easy to find, and affordable

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I've had them in the past, but unfortunately, sold them before I started my channel. I think I will run across others, so hopefully will get another set (or more) to review.

@marvinmurakami8828

11 күн бұрын

The 15 inch Cerwin Vegas from the late 70's through the 80's are the ones to get.

@JR-ho5qm

11 күн бұрын

@@marvinmurakami8828 even into the 90s. The VS Series is fantastic

Have you reviewed any larger IMF speakers ?

@stereoniche

4 ай бұрын

Not yet, although I do have a set of Ref Std Prof Mon Mk. IV, but I have not yet completed a review. Still pending.

@ufarkingicehole

4 ай бұрын

@@stereoniche I really would like to know how they stack up. I have never heard those but I'm guessing the Bass would be a 10 of 10 and they will measure really flat. Look forward to your thoughts

I was given a pair of Bozak speakers about a year ago they sound great but they are huge

@stereoniche

3 ай бұрын

Yes they are! Enjoy them!

I never heard the Polks, Frazier's or the Pioneer but have heard all the rest and I mostly agree with you. I was really disappointed by the Yamaha's, I expected much more. Not that they were bad at all I just expected them to be better. The JBL's were at the top for me. I wouldn't say they were the most neutral but they were the most lifelike and just plain fun. I never liked any of the Klipsch speakers and gave up on them very early. They never seemed to get the integration of the horn and cone driver right. Did they ever get that right? I stopped listening to them decades ago. All my comments are of course just personal taste I don't think there is a "bad" speaker in the whole bunch. I kept the JBL's and a pair of Mission speakers for a very long time before moving on to Snell. I have really been getting the JBL bug again and thinking about buying a pair of JBL L52's just to have. Enjoyed hearing your thoughts on these, brings back memories.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks David for the comments. Not sure how long it will be, but eventually, I'll get this rough pair of Snell A in my collection restored so I can give them a listen.

@davidjones7544

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche I used to have a pair of those! The A III's, the all time best speaker I have ever owned in my life imho. My wife hated them because they were so big so I got a pair of Snell B-Minors and had those for years. Peter Snell (I think I got his name right) left the earth too soon. I liked the B's but they had a dip around 2k in my room that annoyed me but wasn't a deal breaker. You have to get those babies restored, I would enjoy hearing your thoughts. Cheers!

You really need to check out iconic speaker manufacturer/engineer Roy Allison’s line of Allison speakers. Some of the very best vintage speakers you can own, featuring the characteristic “New England” sound. Very accurate, and designed to be placed directly near the rear wall for excellent bass response. Advent’s are good, but these Allison speakers are definitely a cut above.

@stereoniche

3 ай бұрын

I am always keeping an eye out for any Allison speakers. Only ran across them once over ten years ago, but missed them.

@marvinmurakami8828

11 күн бұрын

Yes, the Allison: One.

Loved your review on vintage speakers, but I do have a couple of comments on your Polk Audio SDA 2 speakers. I've owned the same pair of these on and off since buying new in 1987(long story), and looking at yours, those are actually the SDA 2A variation. The difference is that the original SDA 2s used two Silver dome tweeters rather than one. The second tweeter was used in conjunction with the second outside mid/woofer as the Stereo Dimension Array speakers. Polk found the second tweeter was not needed and caused interference with the main tweeter in each speaker with the second mod/woofer, providing all that was needed for the proper SDA function! I know it's kind of confusing because the label on the back says SDA 2 not SDA 2A. Another observation is it looks like the original Silver dome tweeters have been replaced with the modern Polk equivalent? I had to do the same with mine not because I didn't like the Silvers it's because the tweeters were blown when I inherited the speakers back from a good friend on mines wife (long story). Thx....keep up the good videos. Oh by the way I like my large Advents much better than these Polks!

@stereoniche

9 ай бұрын

Greetings! Thanks for the clarification, I will denote that in the comments. This set came from a "Polk fanatic"? I bought an entire collection of gear that included about 15 different Polk models and MANY spare parts, like drivers. So the fact that the drivers were replaced is not a shock. Unfortunately, the prior owner had passed, so I was not able to get any history. So you like the Advents over these huh? Well, that just goes to show how subjective it all is and that we should not take any of this as more than just entertainment. More vids coming soon, so stay tuned! ;-)

@kkoller8952

9 ай бұрын

@stereoniche Yes, my Advents over the Polks! Now that being said, the Polks are good speakers and do things better than the Advents, such as presenting a wider sound stage. But what they don't do is hit me in my musical soul! The Advents make we want to get up and groove with the music .... plus, I can listen these all day without any listener fatigue! The Polks just don't do that for me. That's why I originally sold them to a friend of mine many years ago before inheriting them back. Also, I thought once I replaced the original Silver Dome tweeters with the new versions, I would like them better .... not so. Another speaker to consider that has similar attributes to the Large Advents, but images better and is more 3 dimensional is the AR 2AX!

@curtlizzi3167

5 ай бұрын

I was confused by this review as well. Obviously he doesn’t have the cable to connect the speakers and engage the PA crosstalk system. This would make a big difference to soundstage etc. did the original SDA 2 have that cable as well?

@curtlizzi3167

5 ай бұрын

Ooops, missed the earlier response! Please ignore my comment.

@kkoller8952

4 ай бұрын

@curtlizzi3167 Yes, all Polk SDA speakers have the interconnecting cable!

I would have liked to have heard the sda 1 with 4 midrange and 2 tweeters also polk sda and Klipschorn are so position dependent after owning both sda 2 and 1s the 1s with more drivers are far superior in all areas .l would love to hear large advent and some Klipsch forte 2s I was impressed with these years ago. Also Definitive Technology tower speakers

have a set of Cerwin Vega hed in my living room they have been a very good all around speaker ..they are very heavy lol

You should listen to the JSE infinite slope model .6 and model 1.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Would love to find a pair of both.

The Larger Advents are your baseline speaker and are competing against speakers costing far more. It would be more fair if you also reviewed double Advent speakers. Reviews at the time described them as some variation of sounding "greater than the sum of the parts". I can personally vouch for this. I owned double Advents for 38 years. I would often turn the second pair on and off and the difference in sound was always noticeable and amazing. I would be willing to bet that double Advents would hold their own against many of the higher priced speakers in your completion. On top of that, they would still cost less than many of them.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

All true! I do have another set, albeit, an earlier version, that needs restoration, but once I get around to restoring them, I do plan to give double stacked a go and see how they perform.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

Жыл бұрын

Everyone wants what they own to be reviewed highly. They need to accept reality.

@jfm0830

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt True, and I think that was a fair review of the single Larger Advents. I've accepted reality. What I am pointing out is that if you are going to review them against competitors costing far more, make it a more of a fair contest. How do you realistically expect speaker costing $200 a pair to compete against speakers costing 2X, 3X or 5X more? You can't. That is reality and I accept that. If you wanted an inexpensive, flat, accurate, non-colored speaker the Larger Advents fit that bill. I am pointing out there was a well known solution if you wanted much better sound, still at a reasonable price. The double Advents were a known commodity in their day and could compete more closely with speakers that still cost more than the double Larger Advents. My memory is failing me but the first issue of either Stereophile or The Absolute Sound reviewed double Advents and RAVED about them. I read that review when it came out and I was shocked at what I was reading. It seemed too good to be true, especially considering the source. You have to hear them for yourself, that too is reality.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

Жыл бұрын

@@jfm0830 I agree with you in that the speakers reviewed were of differing price points and even decades of manufacture but it helps to accept the core of the individual review and that reviewers often can't accommodate a protocol that is fair or optimal. Cheers!

@milehighed52801

9 ай бұрын

I worked in a HiFi store in the mid 70’s to early 80’s. We carried a number of mainstream quality speaker brands like Advent, Acoustic Research, Infinity, and JBL. We had heard about people using double New Advents, so we tried them out ourselves one day. So, we hooked up a couple of pairs of New Advents in the showroom using a Rotel integrated amp rated at 150 watts RMS. To everyone’s surprise, they blew us away. We looked at each other with our mouths and eyes wide open in disbelief. We couldn’t believe how good they sounded. They took on a character all their own. They were simply amazing. They blew away everything we had on the floor at a much lower price point than most of the higher end offerings. A week or two later, our district manager saw them and immediately ordered us to take them down. The word had gotten out about how good double New Advents were. They truly were impressive. I wound up buying a pair New Advents in the Walnut finish with the bullnose (opposed to the less expensive standard New Advents with the squared off cabinet in vinyl) with the intention of getting another pair later, but that never happened. I had years and years of enjoyment with my New Advents. After over 30 years of use (and four moves), I retired them. However, I still own them to this day, 44 years later. I don’t think that I’ll ever give them up. I might be setting them up in a small listening area in my basement, along with my 18 year old Denon receiver. I can’t wait to revisit them after them not being in use for a long time. I have fond memories of my New Advents. They will make a return soon. Just thought I’d share. I hope that you will go forward with a review of double Advents, as I’d love to get your take on that setup using these classic speakers. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻

Many Advent owners pre 1978 were disappointed with this version when they came out.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

But then again, many that have had both and like this one just as much on the sound and even moreso on their look. At one point, I had a VERY early original Walnut model that did not have the metal covers over the tweeter. Sadly, I sold them years ago before I had sufficient space to keep them.

@sidesup8286

Жыл бұрын

I remember that the Large Advent speaker was offered in a more expensive wood option. The mere thought that a cabinet could improve the sound quality was mind blowing and we had serious doubts. How could what a speaker is enclosed in make a difference? The sound comes out of the drivers not the cabinet, we thought. But years later we know that a lot of sound does come out of the cabinet and it influences the sound to a great degree. This is not the most controversial rankings of all time. That honor has to go to The Consumer Guide To Stereo & Tape Equipment in the 1970s/80s, which had the Bose 901 Series III and the gigantic Beveridge model 2 speakers tied for best speakers on the market. I imagine people who just spent 7 grand on the Beveridge, seeing that, thought "What the.....?"

What about the DQ tens fron Dahlquist?

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Have a very rough pair, but they were modified and not original. So unless I get them up to snuff, unfortunately, I'll need to find another pair.

@davidmorgen4558

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche Sell em ?

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

@@davidmorgen4558 Still planning to restore them, they are rough, but very fixable.

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

The real dahlquists you want to try are the dq-8, dq-12 and dq-20 and 20i, designed by Carl Marchisotto, much better than the dq 10, I've had em their good, but they weren't Carl's design, the others were.

The a25 is hands down one of the best speakers ever made for it size and sound quality they are amazing speakers .

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

If I ever get my hands on a set to review, I'll add them to the list.

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

I've had 2 sets, their great. You want to take it up many notches? Try the dynaco A50 flagship, one of my favorite vintage speakers of all time.

He needs to listen to the original late 70s Teledyne AR-9s.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Working to get a pair soon. This will complete my collection of AR from 1to 9. :-)

@bijanoskouie5323

6 ай бұрын

Or AR90s. Love mine

When it comes to speakers from the 1960s, Altec Lansing is the bees knees. However all it takes is only a few watts of power to make your ears bleed in your living room. So they are perfect candidates for vacuum tube amplifiers.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Yes they are! I have some 604 variants I will be reviewing at some point. Awesome tube friendly speakers.

Have these old speakers been recapped?

@stereoniche

8 ай бұрын

The condition of each has been relayed in the separate review video.

@EskWIRED

8 ай бұрын

@@stereoniche Thanks.

Snell Type E? Type C or Type A? Anyone? Anyone? Bueler? Bueler?

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Have some Snell A, but they are in need of a LOT of TLC.

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

Had Snell type e 2 and 3, and I must say the type e would impress and hold it's own with about anything I believe when paired right, I liked mine on a Harman Kardon 730.

@Sooopa_Doopa

10 ай бұрын

@@JukeboxAlley I had E2 & E3. I still have the E3s and they are currently in my main system and being pushed by a Sansui G-9700 (I'm 100% in on vintage). I gave the E2s to my son for his first real system

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

@@Sooopa_Doopa that's a great setup

Hope we can see the Altec 19 and Valencia at some point given their iconic status among vintage lovers.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Me too! :-) I've been hoping to find a set of Altec 19 for quite some time now.

@mikeleventhal2093

10 ай бұрын

PA rock speaker, not HI in my book. I bought them and sold them in 2 weeks.

IMF , YES

You need some OHM Walsh speakers......any size

@stereoniche

9 ай бұрын

Agree.

Uhh Edgar Villchur developed and pioneered the acoustic suspension design so it was entirely his baby. Kloss was more of an uncle than the father.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Well, I'll be sure to give him his due credit

I guess my BIC Venturi Formula 2's didn't make the cut. ☹

@stereoniche

8 ай бұрын

Well, maybe some day.... 🙂

I always thought my fathers old Stephans Tru-Sonics sounded good.. i cant imagine what these old good speakers sound like.

@stereoniche

4 ай бұрын

Stephens made some phenomenal speakers, so I am sure they sounded quite good. They were exceptional, in fact, in the 50's-60's era and quite sought after.

The Pioneer TZ9 better than the JBL 4411 are you kidding, the 4411 is the best of that group, but I like your comparation by the way

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

I couldn't say on that, I'd love to have a set of those pioneers to see. I will say that after many jbls I've redone and had, for some reason I like the 4310 the best.

@ThresholdZhor

10 ай бұрын

@@JukeboxAlley the 4310 use that paper cone tweeter that is horrible over 10 khz

@JukeboxAlley

10 ай бұрын

@@ThresholdZhor that's the le-20 tweeter, same one used in the earlier L100, it's a matter of taste I guess, I like the le-20 tweeter best because it's on the warmer rolled off side, the 4312 with le-25 and later titanium tweeters seemed brighter and harsh to me, for that reason the 4310 and early L100 is my personal pick.

@ThresholdZhor

10 ай бұрын

@@JukeboxAlley The 044 used on the L112, L150 and this one is the best tweeter JBL have made, I have heard all JBL tweeters, later production after the L112 use the Titanium tweeter which the worse of all

Diatone should be on your list

@stereoniche

2 ай бұрын

They have been on my list for over a decade. Just have not found a pair.

@darrenwendell1723

2 ай бұрын

I purchased a pair of 1978 DIATONE DS-35BmkII last week in nearly mint original condition. I absolutely love the build quality & sound. The SX-780 and these speakers are a really good match. I live in Asia so Diatone speakers show up for sale quite often.

@stereoniche

2 ай бұрын

@@darrenwendell1723 Indeed, Asia would be the place to find them. They are quite rare in this geography. I've only run across a pair once and they were in quite sad shape so I passed.

I have a pair of Cerwin Vega AT-15’s… wouldn’t sell them at any price!

@thefreestylefrEaK

24 күн бұрын

I have a set of D9's I enjoy when I'm in the mood to get kicked in the chest with some classic rock tunes.

Technics , infinity, Sony , Panasonic, Bose, are also good speakers.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Panasonic? Which model?

Too bad you didn't have the K-horn's Installed the way they were designed to be. You may be aware (or maybe not) that they have to be very tight in a corner with a minimum of four feet of wall space on each side, the more the better, as the wall is the last part of the bass horn. It is a trihedral, bifurcated, multiple impedance, exponential horn and the walls are the last part of the woofer's horn. If set up correctly they'll fill a 3,000 cubic foot auditorium with a maximum woofer excursion of 1/16 of an inch. Walter Klipsch demonstrated them this way several times driving each speaker with a mono 10 watt triode amp. Just sticking them anywhere they'll fit, well why even bother? I owned a pair for 25 years and they were BY FAR the best I have ever owned. I had to sell them when I was moving to a new house and there was only one corner that was suitable. I'm 75 now and doubt I'll move to another home again, but if I do I'll have the living/listening room designed or modified to Klipsch specs: 25 ft. wide, 16 ft. deep, with an 11 ft. ceiling, speaker's on the long wall of course. The K-horn's will have a single Cornwall in the center fed by a mono signal, volume adjusted accordingly with experimentation. Klipsch calls this "Wide Stage Stereo". The room dimensions are not arbitrary. It distributes the Eigenmode's or standing waves, evenly. Eigenmode expansion is a linear computation frequency-domain method. Sorry for the length of this but I just had to put out there that these fantastic speakers are suitable for only the very dedicated owner. Having the money helps a lot too...

@stereoniche

6 ай бұрын

Hi there! Thanks for chiming in. If you watch the full review, I explain the unfortunate situation that my room cannot accommodate their needs. In addition though, that is a weakness of the Klipschorns. Most modern home designs do not offer the room configuration needed for them to present their incredible prowess at music reproduction and it was reflected in my scoring. Fantastic speakers.... with the appropriate room.

Too bad you didn't have the Klipsch Cornwall 2 to compare.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Eventually I will find a pair I am sure.

Amazing perceptions , these top pioneers were not so much appreciated by audiocritics ....

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Certainly not a lot of press about them out there. As few that seem to be in circulation, I've been lucky to find two pair.

While you delivered precisely what you promised, that is, you told us how you ranked your speakers, I feel a lot of engineering goes into making a well-performing speaker. I feel you need to include some objective data to contrast with your subjective evaluation. Also, the topic might be better captured with a title like “Speakers in my Room.” Perhaps the objective data and the acknowledged limits of the room might explain why your ‘experience’ of the Klipsch-horn yielded such a low score. Of course, the other way of doing it, as the manufacturers are supposed to do it, is measure the speaker anechoically and attempt to predict in-room performance, but I don’t think that’s what you’re after, and I wouldn’t have stopped by to listen to what you had to say if you did. I wanted to know how some different vintage speakers, some of which I recognized, performed in comparison to each other. You delivered on your promise, but I do think you gave the Klipsch-horn short shrift. Perhaps, given the response by those that have heard them, it might be better to demure, and say, ‘I would love to have included the Klipsch-horn in this roundup, but I simply haven’t yet gotten them set up properly enough to give them a fair test,’ or something along that line. First-time viewer of your channel, loved the camera work.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremiah! On the Klpschorns, I have denoted that I could not set them up properly, however, I think that is going to be the situation for most potential owners. They are a special speaker, but, they require a special room that is just not as commonplace in the homes of today, so my experience is what I think most others will have if they were to bring them home from say an estate sale purchase. Now, if someone is buying them new, then they will have planned accordingly in advance. If setup properly, I can certainly see how they could have been much higher in my ratings, but, I could not give them points on their status in the speaker realm until I hear it for myself. Stay tuned, many more speakers to come and thanks for chiming in to the conversation.

@jeremiahchamberlin4499

Жыл бұрын

@@stereoniche Point taken. Perhaps you could mention how big a room is necessary for a successful installation of the Klipsch-horn and it’s requisite dimensions, like how wide the front wall needs to be, optimum ceiling height, and distance to the back wall and listening position. Or refer us to a source that could better inform us.

😊👍🇩🇪

The mighty K horn gets beat by a pioneer speaker 🤔

I got slapped. I'm a little late... but I'm back. Ah yes, let's talk some audio. I think she was related anyway. Rating things can be very useful. You don't have to stop at rating things. You can rate happenings. That bad thing that happened; rate it on importance from 1 to 10. You may find that something that has you mad as hell, only rates a 3 in importance if you really think about it. You'll be feeling better and laughing about it in no time. Great advice.... I thought I was doing well when she shocked me and the pop I was holding spilled all over her. It was only cherry cola; 45 times out of 50 I get regular cola, which I like a little better. In fact, I like this one brand of cola so much that at home I will only drink it out of a fancy cut glass goblet. So if it would have been the regular cola that I cherish that I had tonight, I would have rated the loss of the spilled drink as a 6 in importance on a scale of 1 to 10. As it is, it was only cherry cola and I'll rate the mishap as no more than a 4.5, maybe comparable to blowing the tweeter in the 1976 Klipsch Heresy. Now if you blew the berrylium tweeter in the Yamaha NS 1000, which is worth $250/pr. on the used market; that would be a 7 or a 7.5 in importance. Even though it is not as famous a speaker, most people who've heard both, prefer the titanium driver Yamaha NS 500M. Don't tell anyone; they are still reasonably priced on the used market. Maybe everything should be numerically rated. Maybe judges at a beauty contest should rate the girl's nose, eyes, teeth and hair numerically, divide by 4 and "Voila, we have a winner! Maybe we can reach a point where computers do all the rating for us. A very controversial ranking I'm sure. Not having spent considerable time with many of those speakers; I can't say I have a valid opinion. On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you numerically rate making a bad speaker choice? Good video!

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

And 9 reviews out of 10, we will get an entertaining response from Sides Up! :-)

@Oldcrow77

Жыл бұрын

When it comes to speakers, I find it very subjective. It’s like the saying “ beauty is in the eye of the beholder” With the exception of technical data. There are so many variables. The Amp, the room, the music, the music source. The listener’s preference and the listener’s ear(hearing) At 63 and most of my life spent going to concerts. Hunting when young and other things that have damaged my hearing along with just getting old. We are not all hearing the same reproduction of sound. I have to use my ears to determine what sounds best to me. I have a Jolida tube amp, a Hafler 9130 and my Yamaha CR 1020 to drive my mid 90’s legacy protégé’s For me it’s my amp from my youth. The Yamaha. Jolida to mushy. The Hafler is nice but a bit sterile ( for me) The Yamaha gives me the warmth and punch. With the clarity of vocals without the high end being shrill. All I feel I need now is a Giselle DAC for my vintage Yamaha CD player and some nicer ( more expensive) speaker cables. The miccas are great. But I think I can still kick it up a notch. After that I’m done. Can’t keep chasing smoke at this stage of life.

@sidesup8286

Жыл бұрын

I have had at least 4 Yamaha amps myself. My first was a vintage integrated which excelled at resolution but was analytical and thin, lacking body. The same for a vintage power amp, the M40 ? It was their bottom of the line power amp. I never heard an amp sound so good and synergistic with Ohm Walsh 2 speakers. Yet with other speakers it's high end was so thin and as metallicy as a tin can. Hearing it with other speakers would have made people rule it out. A case of truly magical synergism with the Ohms. The Ohms made it sound like a better amp tonally and it made the Ohms sound like a better speaker. I have come to like vintage Denon more than vintage Yamaha for amplification. Better depth, warmth, and tone colors (usually). Amazing how many of us audiophiles are around 60. I will be modifying and trying to improve my sound quality as long as I live. I do things that cost only my time for the most part, without changing out and buying new equipment. If you really know what you're doing, most vintage cd players with their own original Dacs, can be improved to the point where you would need an expensive turntable with a $4,000 or more phono cartridge to equal it's sound quality. It requires over a hundred steps, but done over the course of many years, as new ideas come about.

@Oldcrow77

Жыл бұрын

@@sidesup8286 you described the Denon with more tone colors. The Yamaha’s selling point was natural un colored sound. My CR-1020 from late 70’s does that. As a guy that spent first part of my life as a chef and second half as a band’s manager. I want the natural un colored sound that the artist tried to record. In other words, taste your food the way the chef made it, before adding salt etc. I can always adjust tones on my amp. At 63 and with the many things I still have going on, I only have so much time and money I’m willing to devote to the project. I spent lots of time and money in the 70’s and 80’s going down that rabbit hole. At some point unless you have lots of time and money, you encounter the law of diminishing returns. I actually have another system that is at my buddies in Oklahoma. I loaned when building our house. Consisting of a A/B legacy amp and pre amp and a pair of Sonique Encore towers that were 10k$ back in the 90’s Trying to figure out how to get it to california for less than 1,000 dollars. At 250.00 the Giselle labs DAC vs the 1 bit DAC in the Yamaha, even though it was a 900.00 CD player at the time, I’m pretty sure will add to the sound quality at minimal expense.

@sidesup8286

Жыл бұрын

It isn't so much coloration that diminishes or bleaches tone colors, it is usually a dryness or a processed quality of the equipment. Way back, when I was searching for my first cd player, (1992; I started late), I was playing the same very familiar with cd on different brands cd players. I noticed the JVC cd player had much deeper tone colors than a Technics player I was A/Bing it against. The Technics might have even been a little clearer, but I went with the one I liked the instrument's sounds better on. Purity of sound also enhances tone colors. Denon's old line of Optical Class A integrated amps (PMA line) beat the Yamaha in this way. They are warmer and less thin & analytical too. In fact they even beat a Luxman integrated but by less. The Gishelli I have never heard anything but praise about. It could be the thing to do. I never experimented much with digital cables, but speaker cables and interconnects can make a whale of a difference in your sound quality. Sometimes more than changing components. I overspend on cables just in case, but look for bargains, and have gotten cables used that retailed for $900, for around $350.

Oups where is the ADS speakers!

@stereoniche

7 ай бұрын

In the other speaker review summary video. :-) Go to the channel and look at the last summary video and you will find ADS. Enjoy! While you are there, be sure to SUBSCRIBE! Also, if interested in ADS, watch the full video reviews, not just the summary.

Try Ohn L

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Maybe I will run across a pair some day.

Stacked Advents-

@stereoniche

9 ай бұрын

But your name is DQ as in DQ-10! :-)

Bottom line, Advents are just about the best value in vintage speakers.

@stereoniche

9 ай бұрын

They are a LOT of bang for the buck.

The best speakers are the ones you enjoy listening to the most. It's subjective. Everyone has their own preference. I've heard "great" speakers I could not stand listening to, and lesser rated speakers I really enjoyed. So these listings of "Top 5" or "Top 10" are meaningless in my view.

@stereoniche

10 ай бұрын

Or perhaps, these videos are just entertaining. :-)

i would not put any real stock in this review i have owned about 80% of what was tested and far more untested. that being said i have more than a small degree of experience. i don't like to rate speakers simply because no audio component is as subjective as speakers. i as others had a real wtf reaction to the khorns i would not even reviewed them in that grouping as the k's far outclassed all of them, and should not attempted to rate without proper placement. placement is about the physics involved. k'horn needs proper corner placement as for horn load to function depends on length of fold in the horn that yields your depth the corner allows the completion of that length of fold. a properly set up set of khorns are very arguably still a set of finest speakers out there at any price an can reproduce extreme frequency depth and impact. there down side is corner placement hence why i now have kilpsch bells a front facing horn load. kilpsch is now making a new halo front load horn speaker at the bargain price of just shy of $40k. but to review khorns in same group as a set of advents. well, i use to fly f4's an f16 for ANG that that would be about like a cessna 182 pilot trying to rate the performance envelope of my viper.

@stereoniche

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion Terry. Stay tuned, many new reviews coming soon. :-)

PIONEER HPM-100's!!!!!!!! One wooden pair and Three pairs of clear lucite! How'd you guess I was a fan?

@stereoniche

6 ай бұрын

You hide it well!! :-) I have a single lucite TZ-9.

@BishopEddie5443

6 ай бұрын

If they actually made TZ-9's in lucite, I'd still need at least a pair. I may be the only man alive to have 3 pairs of lucite HPM-100's.@@stereoniche

@stereoniche

6 ай бұрын

@@BishopEddie5443 Well, they actually made them because I own one. They were never intended to be sold at retail as they were for in-store marketing. Agree, you probably are the only man in the WORLD with three pair of lucite HPM-100's! Awesome! 🙂

@BishopEddie5443

6 ай бұрын

WOW! I suspected as much. I gotta make a video of them connected to an Onkyo TX-NR5010 and two Onkyo M-508 amps. Thanks! I subscribed. @@stereoniche