Top-to-bottom changes to mental health system needed, says expert

May is Mental Health Awareness month, and emeritus scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Norm Ornstein, joins Morning Joe to discuss necessary reforms to the mental health system.
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  • @Cheznrice
    @Cheznrice Жыл бұрын

    People who have never experienced a mental health crisis will never understand how hard it is to get any help. When you do go to an emergency room they call the cops to handcuff and shackles to transport you to a mental health center. They treat you like a criminal not a person seeking help!

  • @turretplug6858

    @turretplug6858

    Жыл бұрын

    Try growing up…….

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    @@turretplug6858 LOL. REALLY!!

  • @harold9394

    @harold9394

    Жыл бұрын

    @@turretplug6858 You need to see a psychiatrist.

  • @harold9394

    @harold9394

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikebrigs1218 you need help mentally.

  • @LarrySinclairAndBarack

    @LarrySinclairAndBarack

    Жыл бұрын

    PS I knew somebody that went in and out of the mental hospital and they hated it because of the way they were treated by staff. Like it or not but most of these nurses the staff members were not born in the United States and they have a different mentality and a good portion of them seem antagonistic

  • @ckcox
    @ckcox Жыл бұрын

    I'm a mental health therapist and trust me, the need is dire. I have only so many hours in my week to see people. I could see more, but that would compromise my mental health and the quality that I provide to my clients/patients. Don't get me started on compensation. We in the social work field are required to work miracles on little pay. A major overhaul is needed.

  • @robinriebsomer4607
    @robinriebsomer4607 Жыл бұрын

    I am a retired psych nurse and substance use counselor. Insurance companies do not provide adequate coverage for these disorders. They force addicts out of inpatient detox too soon and now out of day partial too soon. They have no coverage for residential treatment. A month of residential treatment costs $10,000 or more. Many addicts are broke because of their substance use. Because mental health and addiction services were not "lucrative" Ascension health in Indianapolis cut 90% of their outpatient services and their residential program. My job was cut. This is why there are not enough beds and not enough care providers. Residential treatment is far less expensive than prison. So, right, we don't need universal health care.

  • @marilyntaylor223
    @marilyntaylor223 Жыл бұрын

    A mental health course for each grade should be set up and in place so that children receive some sources of what to do, where to go, when and who to report incidents, etc., instead of being left entirely on their own on how to deal with abuse. Perhaps they should receive a booklet, suitable for their age, at their first day of school, on resources to contact should they need help.

  • @nikiwaverider6640

    @nikiwaverider6640

    Жыл бұрын

    Great idea!

  • @katherinejones8022

    @katherinejones8022

    Жыл бұрын

    Psyche must be incorporated into health classes, age appropriate of course. We are so deprived routinely of pertinent knowledge that we are entitled to know of our very bodies.

  • @nikiwaverider6640

    @nikiwaverider6640

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@katherinejones8022 Absolutely, the health of our brains and our mental well-being is just as important as our physical health.

  • @whitedove2352
    @whitedove2352 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a therapist in private practice and my case load is 25 people. I haven't had any openings in three years. People contact me weekly to see me and I have to turn them down. I hear from patients all the time that they can't find a therapist. And when I need to refer a patient for medication management, it takes 2-3 months for them to see a prescriber. We need more therapists! We need more psychiatrists! More training, funding. And more oversight on agencies to keep them accountable for the level of care they're providing.

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    How many liberals with pink and blue hair?

  • @saraleigh5336

    @saraleigh5336

    Жыл бұрын

    Insurance coverage has also gotten worse and worse. So much of the conversation is about seeking help, not about the logistics of getting it. This was refreshing to hear.

  • @davevanfunk8917
    @davevanfunk8917 Жыл бұрын

    We need to allocate money for mental health care. The money is there, we just need to wait for it to trickle down (thanks RWR).

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    You already get welfare

  • @davevanfunk8917

    @davevanfunk8917

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scabcrawler632 The gipper tried to tank that, while his tax break funneled money up to the elite. Besides mental health care is expensive. People on welfare could never afford counseling.

  • @SP-fl9nb
    @SP-fl9nb Жыл бұрын

    Our whole health care system from top to bottom is imbarrasing. It's a joke

  • @jl8942
    @jl8942 Жыл бұрын

    Replace the For-Profit Medical Industrial Complex with a Public Universal Healthcare System.

  • @saraleigh5336

    @saraleigh5336

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah, the same state stripping the rights of women to control their bodies? No thanks.

  • @Ron-rk6iz
    @Ron-rk6iz Жыл бұрын

    Great subject guys! Thanks. Step away from the surface in order to go deeper, the root, that is the only solution. It's not a quick fix at all, try to change your entire society for your children and grandchildren's good sake.

  • @danriley5848
    @danriley5848 Жыл бұрын

    More availability to for mental illness care is long overdue in this country it's ridiculous and sickening.

  • @doctorstreamspunk9996
    @doctorstreamspunk9996 Жыл бұрын

    Can we start with mental health tests for our government representatives?

  • @Dot-Dot-Dash
    @Dot-Dot-Dash Жыл бұрын

    Before I retired from being a Registered Nurse, I called for a job at a mental hospital. They said yes they needed my help but that they were forbidden to hire more nurses due to cut backs. Republicans cut funds!

  • @Alan-sb3hk
    @Alan-sb3hk Жыл бұрын

    This should at least start in high school, dont just kick them out of school, work with them ,this has to start when they are young.

  • @lindajamroz4807
    @lindajamroz4807 Жыл бұрын

    😢Emillio is right..this country hasn't finished grieving. Perhaps we, as a nation, are still working our way thru all the stages of grief. We lost sooo very many loved ones in the past 3 years.

  • @davidgrochmal6023
    @davidgrochmal6023 Жыл бұрын

    All this bull sh____ t about metal Heath they will do absolutely nothing to fix the problem people don't even have Heath insurance I don't buy anything they say !!!!

  • @robroberts7093
    @robroberts7093 Жыл бұрын

    Does it bother anyone that these particular leaders will determine what sanity is?

  • @susanavilez9302
    @susanavilez9302 Жыл бұрын

    I think Gov. Abbott needs serious mental illness evaluation, he is spinal cord injured which is extremely significant and impacts him, his family and everybody around him and his decision making based in his anger, callousness, and denial of what's in front of him.

  • @nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368
    @nnsnumbersandnotesunlimite7368 Жыл бұрын

    You cannot fix mental health tomorrow, but you can get rid of guns immediately.

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    Try it 😂

  • @liseth2323
    @liseth2323 Жыл бұрын

    We need universal healthcare.

  • @JoSeF...

    @JoSeF...

    Жыл бұрын

    I would advocate catastrophic universal Care

  • @DeltaTango2024

    @DeltaTango2024

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd rather not wait 6 months to see a doctor

  • @sircasm6578

    @sircasm6578

    Жыл бұрын

    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about 😅

  • @DebORahDramatica

    @DebORahDramatica

    Жыл бұрын

    We're the only advanced country in the world who doesn't have universal Healthcare and we pay far more than all other countries and we are not even top 30 in the world for healthcare

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    HOW ABOUT NO!! MOVE TO CANADA!!

  • @ImMe-sp9fl
    @ImMe-sp9fl Жыл бұрын

    You know where help for people with mental health problems should start,our government, all politicians. Plus let's not forget corporate America.

  • @kateuhler7803
    @kateuhler7803 Жыл бұрын

    Great segment👏👏👏👏👏

  • @jamesthomas9471
    @jamesthomas9471 Жыл бұрын

    Shooters do not walk into mental health clinics. And if they did, services are scarce, almost absent.

  • @afterlifewelcomesyoutofore2992
    @afterlifewelcomesyoutofore2992 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone who can tried their shoelaces does not have problems, those that have a hard time usually run for public office. One of the largest group of professionals that take their own life are the doctors that treat mental challege people. Go figure.

  • @axonjogi
    @axonjogi Жыл бұрын

    I can not tell you how very much I agree with no children should be left alone to deal with the current US values and goals

  • @samiaint8043
    @samiaint8043 Жыл бұрын

    American Enterprise Institute is a Republican think tank which focuses on words for messaging. Mental health is a problem but is also the message Republicans want to promote for the answer to the gun problem in the US.

  • @DeltaTango2024

    @DeltaTango2024

    Жыл бұрын

    What would the answer be? Forcibly take away people's guns?

  • @brianzembruski5485

    @brianzembruski5485

    Жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @markmierzejewski9534

    @markmierzejewski9534

    Жыл бұрын

    If its a mental health issue and people choose firearms to commit crimes of this nature. It would make sense to have universal mental health screening. Everyone who buys a gun legally already starts off with the intent of being a " good guy " until they aren't. How are we suppose to know who is who? What business is it for an 18 year old buying a full battle rattle.. Common sense gun laws. Guns are not toys, Guns are not tools. Firearms have a singular purpose. Tools serve multiple only tools think firearms are tools.

  • @marklasky3555
    @marklasky3555 Жыл бұрын

    Mandatory for all MSNBC hosts

  • @Jstrong1966
    @Jstrong19669 ай бұрын

    Im sorry but, im not a child anymore, i just turned 57. I wouldn't relive my childhood no matter what could be offered. Instead, i wound up recreating the very same treatment by nearly everyone in my world. I married my dad and mom, i was so needy i drove people away or got taken advantage of. I was the scape goat and my mom called people, including dictors and told them not to help me, that they couldn't believe a word i said. I just want to hurt people. As a 7 year old i wanted to hurt them??? I can't remember why im telling you this. Wait, it's because, "You can not help a child until the adult is healthy enough for their child. "

  • @katherinejones8022
    @katherinejones8022 Жыл бұрын

    President Biden must create a cabinet position for a mental health or brain disease czar. Dr. Mary Trump has some great ideas. From the mass psychosis of the country & the ravages of covid, this is a prudent & necessary decision.

  • @NNShephard
    @NNShephard Жыл бұрын

    All those jabs trigger people to off everyone

  • @romulus_

    @romulus_

    Жыл бұрын

    is that your expert medical opinion or something a kook would say?

  • @brianzembruski5485

    @brianzembruski5485

    Жыл бұрын

    No, they don't

  • @Brandonsniffskids

    @Brandonsniffskids

    Жыл бұрын

    Pureblood and proud here

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    IF THEY LIVE THAT LONG.

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Brian Zembruski if you get 12 you get a free subway sandwich 😂

  • @peterbovold2571
    @peterbovold2571 Жыл бұрын

    That's for starters.

  • @markcampbell7577
    @markcampbell7577 Жыл бұрын

    Wage act enforced correctly locally by police and welfare departments rightfully expect social security minimum entitlement and minimum wage is a living local commute. This minimum standard of living and allowing transition to working.

  • @BIGPAPA660
    @BIGPAPA660 Жыл бұрын

    The unfortunate guy in New York was killed because he was throwing trash and acting unstable. 1 out of 5 homeless people suffer from mental illness.

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    4 out of 5 democrats suffer from mental illness

  • @eternalskeptic
    @eternalskeptic Жыл бұрын

    At the very least, those seeking mental health should be required to complete a Gun Safety course before getting treatment...

  • @mariaalejandraacero-escude4640
    @mariaalejandraacero-escude4640 Жыл бұрын

    Those ways exist❤🎉

  • @Ron-rk6iz
    @Ron-rk6iz Жыл бұрын

    Again, a refreshing interview, about mental health and the connecting ( lacking ) treatments. More medicine is not the solution, and neither is the handout of Insulin for that matter. Those measures are only feeding the pockets of the Pharmaceutical Industries while leaving the cause untreated so to say. The question should be, in the first place: Why are there so many mentally ill folks in the USA ? Compare the Statistics with for example Finland, Iceland, Denmark, Israel, and the Netherlands the five happiest countries in the World. ( the USA is ranked number 15 ) This only proves that military power and an extreme form of capitalism do not mean well-being for the masses in society. There is nothing wrong with Money, on the contrary, but there is "something wrong" in the way we use it, the Food Industry is a very harmful consequence of the system, just one example. Sugar is addictive, and the Industry knows that they use the same criminal practices as the cigarette industry did in the past, killing millions of people over the years. Ironically everybody is upset about the shootings but nobody has the guts to question the practices of the Food industries. Dr. Lustig would be your great next guest if it is about the root cause of mental and physical illnesses and the effects of sugar on the addicted population of this country.

  • @dontKNOW3741
    @dontKNOW3741 Жыл бұрын

    Why does Joe have any guests on? He seems to be an absolute expert in everything why doesn't he just interview himself?

  • @harold9394

    @harold9394

    Жыл бұрын

    @Sara Mill bot

  • @harold9394

    @harold9394

    Жыл бұрын

    @Sara Mill fake white woman.

  • @lemmedie98
    @lemmedie98 Жыл бұрын

    Mental health system did nothing for me but give me debt and meds, actually it made my crisis worse, oh and now I can't own firearms 😊 America baby

  • @MrJimbissle
    @MrJimbissle Жыл бұрын

    Fear. People are more afraid of 'Mental' illness than of Death. Its the most personal sort of illness. It gets inside of who the person is and the universe they live in. If its not you, that could mean Anything ! If its a stranger near you . . . All defenses go up. So we dont want to look.

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    150K ARE OUTSIDE IN MEXICO WAITING FOR TITLE 42 TO END. NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS!!!!

  • @harold9394

    @harold9394

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikebrigs1218 you don’t even have the ability to stay on topic.

  • @LarrySinclairAndBarack

    @LarrySinclairAndBarack

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine opening your borders and not knowing who's coming into your country you can have a violent third world and fifth world country cleaning out the prison's their mental institutions sending all their AIDS patients to the United States. And the public has to deal with it. Joe Biden the Democratic party and anybody who supports the left is a traitor to the United States

  • @redsable6119
    @redsable6119 Жыл бұрын

    Sure does, shame about the hundreds/thousands that will be slaughtered in the mean time.

  • @mamatrain100
    @mamatrain100 Жыл бұрын

    Only if someone can get rich. That's the only way mental health will get the attention it needs.

  • @t.r.campbell6585

    @t.r.campbell6585

    Жыл бұрын

    We had this years ago. We had mental health hospitals where the unfortunate individuals could receive treatment, and could be confined because they were psychotic, schizophrenic and dangerous to the general population. We had this before, but then we had the stupid idea of returning the mentally ill to the community and keeping them drugged up. That idea is a failure.

  • @mamatrain100

    @mamatrain100

    Жыл бұрын

    @@t.r.campbell6585 yep, ronnie ray gun didnt want to pay for it anymore.

  • @aurora_occidentalis2248
    @aurora_occidentalis2248 Жыл бұрын

    Is self-medicating with ice cream mental health care? Asking for an elderly Democrat career politician.

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    LOL. DEMOCRATS AND LIBERAL HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS.

  • @katherinejones8022

    @katherinejones8022

    Жыл бұрын

    Cute.

  • @richhoyle1254
    @richhoyle1254 Жыл бұрын

    Crazy lady had diff take in your previous vid. You not collaborate as “journalists”

  • @Myers70
    @Myers70 Жыл бұрын

    Top to bottom changes are needed in the BRANDON administration

  • @g11rfe87
    @g11rfe87 Жыл бұрын

    Does this mean we will finally admit that they/them people with severe body dysmorphia and multiple personality disorder are also mentally ill?

  • @mikebrigs1218

    @mikebrigs1218

    Жыл бұрын

    MOST PEOPLE WHO NEED PRONOUNS TO DESCRIBE THEM SELVES HAVE MENTAL DISORDER.

  • @Cheznrice

    @Cheznrice

    Жыл бұрын

    It's always been considered a mental illness. It's written in the DSM. So what are you talking about? Education is key!

  • @scabcrawler632

    @scabcrawler632

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Jenny from tha block so why do democrats try to normalize it?

  • @DaleHartley

    @DaleHartley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cheznrice no, he is trying to say gender fluid or trans people are mentally ill. They are not. As to the two actual conditions s/he lists being in the DSM...not denying that, BUT s/he said "they/them" people

  • @g11rfe87

    @g11rfe87

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Cheznrice i am talking about the "they/them" people as i stated in my comment, but reading is hard. education is key

  • @NDARYBC
    @NDARYBC Жыл бұрын

    We hava a mental health crisis and it is coming from the republicans side. They need to seek Dr Fauci help in maintaining their polite-ness and manner's.

  • @StephonMulberry-ur6vz
    @StephonMulberry-ur6vz Жыл бұрын

    Americans used to be able to order fully automatic machine guns from the sears catalog, and have it delivered to their door. Yet somehow these mass events never happened… this is a modern issue. Wonder what is causing it?

  • @kfkgjgkvkgkggknfnfndb2039
    @kfkgjgkvkgkggknfnfndb2039 Жыл бұрын

    🍄

  • @scillyautomatic
    @scillyautomatic Жыл бұрын

    Biden's America! Vivek 2024

  • @jaygibson5057
    @jaygibson5057 Жыл бұрын

    Carry your gun

  • @sircasm6578
    @sircasm6578 Жыл бұрын

    Well for starters, we can establish the fact that hurt feelings do not equate to a mental health crisis 🙄

  • @Brandonsniffskids
    @Brandonsniffskids Жыл бұрын

    What was in those jabs?🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸