COSMO IS UBDERATED

@GoldenBanana123_YT

8 ай бұрын

I don’t have cosmo but my friends do, and I’ve seen that even though it’s cool-down is super long, it has very good range and decent attack, and the knock back against floating/angel is a bonus, so yeah I think it’s pretty underrated.

@koonplus3347

8 ай бұрын

@@GoldenBanana123_YT cosmo is really trash dont use it

@mylestomsik4720

8 ай бұрын

I have cosmo as my first uber. personally I love him, and I find him to be underrated.

@Darkatanyan

8 ай бұрын

@@mylestomsik4720 ikr

@BattleCats-eu4ic

8 ай бұрын

Nah that’s cap

That fact you put awakened bahamut in this list already tells me that you don’t use him right

@seanah6428

5 ай бұрын

To be fair, max (level 50) bahamut is just outclassed by max (level 60 + talented) yukimura. Many best unit lists have bahamut but not yukimura which is why I believe bahamut is overrated. Yukimura has twice the hp, half the cooldown, 2/3 the price, faster attack animation, and more attack once strengthened (but less before strengthen). The higher hp and faster attack animation allow him to land more hits and do more damage throughout his lifespan. He’s just better. There’s no doubt that bahamut is good but he is overrated by many people.

@KlaudielTDS

3 ай бұрын

awakened bahamut is a legend unit, yukimura isnt@@seanah6428

@NormalPlayer_WhoPlaysGames

2 ай бұрын

​@@seanah6428i think A bahamut outclassed Yukimura if yukumura doesn't have max attack up talent

@lursenuka

Ай бұрын

​@@seanah6428bahamut is free and usable in 90% of levels

@chaozsheep

Ай бұрын

​​@@seanah6428 An Uber can't outclass a Special unit because not everyone has Yuki, and everyome has Bahamut, also you can do Bahamut chains because of A. Baha's backswing, it's much harder to do with Yuki. Also the game is pretty much designed around Bahamut.

The quote “I’d rather use dasli or Gaia for my nuker ability’s” is one of the most 2023 things I’ve ever heard.

@Zegiomio

7 ай бұрын

I actually agree with a lot of your choices I just found that funny

Whoever thinks A bahamut is the best unit in the game is lying to themselves, we all know its the best boi eggy cat, the non-gacha easter special cat.

@roecatgaming

2 ай бұрын

He's better than Can Can and Cyberpunk he is so good

Tip: Try not use ubers like dasli or chronos when trying to showcase a unit. Most of the time the uber will end up doing all the work and the unit being showcases just doesn't do anything. For example, at 3:20 you could take cyborg out of the lineup with no differences whatsoever because the starred aliens have super low buffs. Also you are so blatantly wrong about A. Bahamut being the most overrated unit in the game. Even though I don't have to, I am going to debunk any claim i feel strongly about for my own sanity. 1.Low hp Bahamut having low hp is standard for any rushing unit because they aren't supposed to stay around for too long. Rushers are meant to rush in, get some cash/ burst damage, and then die. Bahamut's relatively low cooldown allows you to cycle about 2-3 per game which allows damage to add up in the long term. Also, you can use CC units/ thunderbolt cannon to allow it to get more hits than it should, effectively increasing the value each Bahamut gets. 2. Inability to clear peons I don't even know where to start with this one. Bahamut obviously cannot (AND SHOULD NOT) be able to clear peons. It would be way too overpowered for Bahamut to get a level 8 wave/ level 3 surge with each hit. To counteract this weakness, all you need to do is use wave attackers to clear any peons in the way. For example, in "Learned to Love" one key strategy is to stack the H. Nahs and kill them with Bahamut, but peons like Squire Rel and Trolly Blogger get in the way, making it much harder to get your Bahamut chain. What do you do? Manic macho legs. That's it. Just stack the H. Nahs and use waves to clear the peons. With good enough timing this stage becomes easier in the higher star difficulties due to the player getting better wave attackers or peon clearers (such as slime and manic lion). 3. Getting juggled Bahamut has no backswing. If he somehow gets juggled you are using him wrong. That's it. 4. "Just use Dark Kasli bro" This is the best advice you have ever given. Everyone playing the battle cats should just stop what they are doing and just get the best uber in the game. Super easy. I have no argument. I don't expect you to read this. I just needed to get this off my chest. I spent too long on this...

@joj3403

8 ай бұрын

Omg number 4 helped me so much! I was stuck on Chapter 2 moon, and after reading this comment, I simply spent my college savings, next month’s rent + groceries money, and my parent’s retirement fund on the Epicfest banner and got Dasli!! Then I got her to lvl 50 I was finally able to beat moon chapter 2! The video was so correct, who even needs a.bahamut lol

@2DRPG

8 ай бұрын

@@joj3403 TRUE dasil help me so much with bunbun in chapter 3!!11!!

@rapidtomato3955

8 ай бұрын

Okay, let me try and justify myself. Here's a way I can try and put it. Most people top 5 list have A Bahumut in them, however they usually (unless they're stupid) don't have D Kalsi, Mitama, etc. They're seen as some of the best ubers, but not the best units. The value you can get out of A Bahumut can be very substantial, however usually I opt to go for a more consistent attacker like D Kalsi. Bahumut can be sort of a coin toss while I can rely on Chronos and Kalsi to be pretty consistant. Yes, when A Bahumut shines, he really does, but the way in which people see him as a top 5 unit is waaaaay too overrated, especially when he can be very inconsistent. But obviously he can perform well on many stages, i'm not denying that

@coolboyjacob5267

8 ай бұрын

@@rapidtomato3955 Although it is true that D. Kasli is a more consistent attacker than Bahamut on boss stages such as Floor 30s, Bahamut can be used on more boss stages where the boss exceeds 400 range, such as Ururun, Esanglion, and even Zero Luza. He can even be used in certain stages to get a nice chain on bosses with high knockback counts such as Yulala and Idi:Re (kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z5ahm9ajitvUl6Q.html). Although it is true that Bahamut will likely die in one or two hits from these bosses, he gets the most possible value before he dies. For example, a level 40 Bahamut would deal 187k burst damage on Luza if timed well. This is equivalent to 5 times the damage (32k) a level 60 D. Kasli would deal before they both inevitably die in one hit. Also, Bahamut has the ability to eliminate annoying peons in these stages like the Bore Jr., which increases the value he gets with each cycle. All I’m saying is, while Bahamut could possibly be an overrated unit, he is nowhere near the most overrated in the entire game. I would have less of an issue if he was placed between 10-7 on this list but nowhere near the first. While I do have issues with other placements on the list, this one frustrated me the most. That’s all.

@coolboyjacob5267

8 ай бұрын

@@rapidtomato3955 Also you should rename the video to "Most Overrated Units in the History of The Battle Cats". Units like Kasa Jizo haven't been overrated for a while now with units such as Pizza and Mushroom being better and more accessible.

Ramiel overrated? I never thought someone would even said it’s op, Ik it’s very good have a lot of pierce but of all units tell me when do you mention him if the Eva collab isn’t here

@CRAZY_DI_DRAGON

8 ай бұрын

never used him before overrated how tho?????????? bro aint even rated

@mylestomsik4720

8 ай бұрын

i love ramiel though

@eddypeloschinos

8 ай бұрын

@@CRAZY_DI_DRAGON I have use him it’s very good but the overrated mean people says it’s better than it is and I haven’t see anyone overrating this cat so it cannot be overrated

Sorry, but what year are you in? Aphrodite hasn’t been considered top 10 in a while, and is recognized to have fallen off in the meta. I hate to say this, but daliasan is straight up better as a sniper. (also, asuka definitely isn’t a top 10 uber) The same goes for shishilan. He has been mostly outclassed throughout the years. Lufalan is more favorable due to more recent stage matchups making it easier to use single target ubers. This is another reason why balrog is so great. Kasa Jizo has also fallen off massively throughout the years. He used to be considered the best uber….6 years ago. He has fallen off due to the later game stats such. Also, PLEASE don’t say courier outclasses jizo. This is a highly debated statement and courier isn’t THAT much better. I, and a few others i’ve talked to, say awakened bahamut isn’t even a top 3 Legend Unit. His HP hasn’t aged well in UL and above and isn’t favorable. He is not overrated by any means. It is a matter of using him properly. Cyberpunk is regarded is an extremely good super rare due to cyberstacking. The thing is, almost nobody is willing to do it due to the time it takes.

@rexV22

8 ай бұрын

i forgot to mention this, but dragon cat is not overrated by any means. He is a STAPLE for bun bun and crazed cat, but not in much other places. He isn’t really talked about anywhere else.

@2DRPG

8 ай бұрын

i mean i would consider awakened bahamut to at least be a in the top 3 legend units tho, i mean are you gonna use naala or idi against anything but relic and behemoth/colossal, bahamut is a general rusher who isn't really outclassed, the closest thing to bahamut is yuki and yeah i would consider yuki to be better then bahamut in most situations but there are still alot of situations that would be better with bahamut then yuki. (and also A. bahamut is free.) (and you probably need to invest in talents and boost yuki to be better than bahamut) other than that i agree with most of your points

@al3xb0t2

8 ай бұрын

PFFFFFF people still worship kasa jizo and aphrodite what are you on about

@thomasyes.

8 ай бұрын

​@@rexV22tbf id say dragon still has some useage in mid game like in 1ldk and others, but gets outclassed by its other variants ngl

@rexV22

8 ай бұрын

the only reason they might still be worshipped is new players looking at xskull videos from many years ago…or any video showcasing those ubers all the time from a while ago@@al3xb0t2

Ramiel and Shishilan is crazy 💀 Ramiel I feel is underrated at times, and that is coming from someone who has the screaming geometry. Yes, despite doing MD + slow to floating, along with a surge attack guarantee. Rushers like Li'l bun bun and even normal Bun Bun are a problem if not prepared to deal with either, and brollow is even worse. Shishilan is a massive surprise to me, because I was expecting Luffalan, not Shishilan. Shishilan can be effective against anything in its range, but units like the Jones, the A's, and anything else with more than 445 can shut this thing down. Something I expect no one in maybe mid game would use if they have better units than it.

@NotDisgusting

4 ай бұрын

Ramiel is a good unit but shishi I 100% a hugely overrated unit and I was honestly expecting him to be at no 3 plus lufalan is kinda overrated but he isn't outclassed by other units bcus there isn't many sniper crit single targeters

Amazing agree with almost all of them. But there is something about the mic :D.

Ok, i have a question. I am early game (about 750 ur) but I am about to beat ITF Chapter3 because of Luminalia. Is she useable later on or just now when aliens are the only enemies?

@NoPunKakesGiven

8 ай бұрын

she is mainly useful on alien heavy stages but in the case where there are multiple types present then it's best to use another debuffer tank like soap for it's disposability

@NoPunKakesGiven

8 ай бұрын

so do not fear, luminalia does not fall off

@watermelon3306

8 ай бұрын

Even when she’s not against aliens she’s still pretty tanky, but she’s best used on alien stages, but there’s going to be a lot of them. There’s also Cotc, where she dominates.

@kinorad13

8 ай бұрын

NIGGA UPGRADE THINGS 750 UR???

@GoldenBanana123_YT

8 ай бұрын

Best Uber for COTC is gravolodon, godly for clearing out starred/alien peons.

really a lot of the appeal of balrog comes from being a 3000 (2250 with cost down, unnecessary but helpful) cost 28.2 second cooldown unit who still carries those stats. i got no clue where you actually are in the game, but balrog carries through late UL, starred UL, ZL, and quite a few advents given that its stats are insane enough to work against the high mag enemy hell that is endgame. it's tanky enough for strengthen to consistently activate, its strengthen is 200% on third knockback which increases damage per hit to **432000** at level 60 (which is busted enough to make the grind worth it. i ain't see you complain about any ultra talents even though kuu with full boost is so insane people say she's top 10 idk idk). balrog crushes through many early boss stages, is very usable in cotc, and once you get the resources for talents it'll be one of the most insane units in the game. genuinely don't think there's a ZL stage i haven't used it in. second best uber. if i wanted to overrate it i could make an argument for putting it over DASLI, that's how broken it is. maybe very slightly overrated by a couple people who do believe it's #1, but goddamn brother use it against starred luza and come back it slices through that thing like butter

@destruktow5891

8 ай бұрын

really the only two points you made were "what about peons" and "too much investment". the peons point isn't as relevant in lategame due to the higher concentration of enemy combinations that are deadly in their own right, but you can still just use wave/surge/LD with enough coverage to prevent peons from blocking balrog if they do show up. balrog is a melee unit, area attack really wouldn't do as much as you'd think. the investment point, as i've previously said, is one that you could've applied to a lot of other units, such as ultra talent or ultra form ubers, but you only went after the unit that just benefits from boost. you need 410 np for max strengthen and max attack buff, the two main talents that make balrog already busted, and it's not entirely necessary to darkmax it, with level 50 or even just level 45 being viable enough to crush UL, after which you should have access to enough dark eyes to make darkmaxing a fair investment. balrogers stay winning what can i say

@basedcringe9000

8 ай бұрын

​@@destruktow5891Yeah this dude is tripping on Balrog and A.Baha. They're already great but he wants them to be something out of BCU cheating videos. All the other units he mentions have fallen off super hard and were considered good in like 2020.

@destruktow5891

8 ай бұрын

@@basedcringe9000 man's stuck in 2021 it happens what can i say

A very controversial list for sure, but I appreciate your willingness to be honest, and a lot of the arguments you provide are very solid. I am a little sad to see my boy Ramiel on this list, I just think he's cool and fun to use, but I certainly agree he is definitely not the best anti floating uber, that would have to be Saber, or maybe even Windy now that she has a busted 4th form. A personal pick of mine would have to be Cameraman. Don't get me wrong, cameraman is a very strong spammable midranged attacker who is especially useful for his somewhat high range for his class and extremely low cost, but I feel like that low cost comes with the drawback of him having mediocre dps output individually. He's great to build up a stack of, which is made easier by his good survivability, but his low individual dps combined with his slow speed makes him pretty useless when paired with stronger or faster units. TL;DR: I find his performance pretty mediocre overall. I have one other honorable mention that is most certainly going to get me killed in the replies, but Manic eraser/Regular eraser. Easily two of the best units in the game being the best meatshields, and the building blocks for basically any and all strategies. However, every stage Ponos designs is made with the assumption that players have and will use these units, and being basically required is a pretty lame way to be the best. Besides, I prefer to use specialized taker meatshields like ramen cat, shigong ect.

@rapidtomato3955

7 ай бұрын

interesting

@PotatoGod2electricboogaloo

7 ай бұрын

Agree with manic eraser being bad but normal eraser is good

@darryllmaybe3881

7 ай бұрын

@@PotatoGod2electricboogaloo That's interesting. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. personally, I find manic eraser more useful, but I'd love to hear more on your opinion!

Most of your stances I understand, but Balrog? Seriously? And to showcase how "overrated" balrog you use him on a peon heavy SoL stage. In the same way, I can claim dasli is an absolutely trash unit because she gets destroyed by hazuku. Balrog isn't a generalist you can just spam in any stages, he is a specialist with stats that are too high. Also the single target argument does't really hold up when you can just clear the peons with waves, surges, and ld attacks. You claim balrog requires a lot of resources which is better spent on cyberpunk and cancan. First, on cancan: balrog is straight up better so I don't know why you mention her. As for cyberpunk, you cannot compare them as one is a generalist and the other is a specialist. Also, if you are going to make an underrated units video, try to include liberty and maybe Jiangshi (thank you xskull for making jianshi seem like a bad unit)

Really helpful papi

@ForgottenSub-ht9xz

8 ай бұрын

Yup

nice video

nice vid

“Is he had pierce he would be too broken” Fun fact in start of the game he did use to have pierce but 2 times lower damage before long range got added

@stopmotionroblox2259

4 ай бұрын

Talking about cyverpunk thought I think he didn’t have true form yet then

Amazing vid but please get a better mic

Is shaman good?

Honestly I don’t see how most of the units here are overrated. I wouldn’t call Cosmo overrated, he is more like underrated. You could easily replace him with Chronos since this one is the actual overrated Uber with quite bad debuff uptime and yet people praise her like she is the best. Shishilan also the case, I rarely see anyone even use him after so many units appeared. Dark Kasli deserves a number 1 spot here certainly.

@Hyperlaser_Merc

6 ай бұрын

Dark Kasli is very strong but very controversial so i can see why.

@NotDisgusting

4 ай бұрын

People still say shishi is the second best nekoluga but I would say in my honest opinion assasilan is better

lasvoss shouldve been on this list

@darryllmaybe3881

8 ай бұрын

Pretty based. He falls under pretty much the same category as Balrog though, being insanely strong in ideal circumstances, but being pretty mediocre in general usage. Plus, he has the unfortunate downside of also being difficult to use and reliant on rng.

@mylestomsik4720

7 ай бұрын

not really anymore, he has 153000 base attack at level 30 in true form. he's not that reliant on savage blows anymore@@darryllmaybe3881

Riemel is worth every penny. She is meant to be protected well. She has the damage, can you keep it there. Same with lassvoss. High damage, high risk.

I feel quite a few of these units are underrated by you because Dasli, Chronos, and Mitama have brain numbed you to the fact that some units, actually need strategy to work 😱. Especially Super Galaxy Cosmo, Balrog, and A. Bahamut are pretty high risk, high reward units. You have to be careful and support them when using them. Balrog is an endgame unit, and endgame generally features less enemies, however the enemies that are there are much stronger, which is why Balrog is so strong at that point. Super Galaxy Cosmo is kind of like how, idk, Duck is to Smash Bros Ultimate. He takes a lot of effort to use (at least compared to Dasli). His long range allows him to outclass sanzo in many scenarios, and not just is he great against his targets, but he is also a very strong chipper in general. Like how cyberpunk is great at chipping, Super Galaxy Cosmo is too, having similar Super-Backliner status, however 3 times the dps making him even strogner at chipping. If you want to use him better, just try to think before using cat cannon. As for A. Bahamut I seriously don't know what you were thinking. Bahamut is so perfectly rated that its honestly shocking there even needs to be debate over how great he is. I have a whole nother rant about why you were wrong about him too under @coolboyjacob5267's comment

"Aphrodite's high base dps" Wow

how can cosmo be overrated when like 5 people use him and 3 are my alts 😭

the least controversial top 10 video in battle cats community

@ShishilanPasalan-tk8ns

8 ай бұрын

hahaha

bro how tf is cosmo overrated

Don't people say Cosmo is bad?

Blind spot is cancelled out by stacking

Cyber punk is kinda good… But the only one’s I agree with is Aphrodite and Kaza Jizo… Ok I have reasons like that Aphrodite is outclassed by Lunima,Bora,Gravolo,Volta and Twinstars and Jizo is outclassed by Momotaro,Kintaro,Ushi, and well Sarukani

HoW aM i OvEeRrAtEd??? (I also like the undertake ost in the video VERY much)

Alright now you got me pissed off.

When was this video made?? Aphro, shishi, fuck, Cosmo??? These units havent really been relevant for a long time. Also, who thinks ramiel is an OP uber? Shes good but she aint top top tier or anything I also have beef with cyberpunks placement here but I wont talk about it Also, Kaza Jizo???? have you been holding onto this vid for 5 years or smth... kaza jizo hasnt been relevant for like 4-5 years

Why is Ramiel here 😭

i havnt used abaha forever lol im in ul 25 idk i jsut dontuse him

@Hyperlaser_Merc

6 ай бұрын

Makes sence because hes meant for Stories of Legends.

How is awakened bahamut on number one yet the kaslis, darktanyan, mitama, yukimura, etc. overrated units are units that are praised too much and used too much, the units he listed are never used. I mean cyborg, dragons, and cyberpunk are used but they are all heavily outclassed. Cyborg is outclassed by cameraman, dragons are irrelevant late game and cyberpunks blind spot makes assasinlan the better unit especially with talents which up’s his survivability.

I just got a headack reading this😂

im screaming and crying rn

You are ovvareted

bro didn’t even spell balrog right? who gave you the right to cook lil bro 😭🙏💀

@rapidtomato3955

6 ай бұрын

I can't choose what the chapter names are m8 (mate cuz the guy who replied to this comment doesn't know the slang)

@lightclawwdum4163

6 ай бұрын

@@rapidtomato3955 k

@KlaudielTDS

3 ай бұрын

@@rapidtomato3955and u cant spell either

Bazistar i do belive pikachu is the best uber from the set, divine thundia idk i hated the awekened bahamut second form and still hate divine thundia, cyberpunk man he is good but what the f you are doing waithing 10 min to stack him so you can beat a stage, bullet train just use can can, Lufalan offen hits squirrels and pions.

back up from the mic

I want chronos

Most units you mention were only considered good years ago and have been thoroughly overshadowed. Balrog is amazing on late UL and ZL because there straight up aren't any small trash peons on any stage anymore, they're all dangerous like 200% wild doges or Relic Squirrels. A.Baha gets trashed on for being a kamikaze rusher too which makes no sense. If he could do what you criticized him for he would be the most op cat in the game and something straight up out of those BCU cheating videos.

😭

what's with yo microphone dawg, are you holding it 2 centimeters away from your mouth

@rapidtomato3955

7 ай бұрын

shhhh

@crazedaxebutbetter5208

7 ай бұрын

@@rapidtomato3955 xd

Where's the slime cat and the housewife

why cyborb is overate camera man should be overrated it cant even hit long attacker like owl butter and many more slow speed as well and why cosmo is even on this vid it really trash and rameil what is that is?? never heard of it all i know is it is a bad unit

Balls

@Zegiomio

7 ай бұрын

10/10 comment

Sanzo is hella overrated, necro dancer is better

i enjoyed :3

face reveal!

Him: okay, kazu jizo is overrated *mic scratch* and is a pretty good unit overall, but he's outclassed *lip smack, swallow* courier cat

@Hyperlaser_Merc

7 ай бұрын

Hes not even overrated anymore.

Yeah I doubt awakened bamuth is that good considering this