Top Ten Misconceptions About 252

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Number 11 will shock you!
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0:00 Intro
0:37 1. 252 is early-game only
1:07 2. Max-right is bad/impossible
2:04 3. 252 needs more management
2:56 4. 252 needs more base skills
3:43 5. 252 is bad with more base skills
4:28 6. 243 is more balanced
5:41 7. Office upgrades don’t suck
6:26 8. Switching to 252 is expensive
7:41 9. 252 sucks because fewer Credits
8:28 10. 252 sucks because less Trust
9:36 Outro
10:41 ???

Пікірлер: 205

  • @leondl8407
    @leondl8407 Жыл бұрын

    'After a small reddit argument, I spent months gathering data' This is extremely relatable

  • @lxnevw
    @lxnevw Жыл бұрын

    Cool video, I guess I will change my base setup to 333. Thanks for the guide! 👍

  • @renegadecthulhu
    @renegadecthulhu Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know base has this much drama...I just went 243 cuz I like stuff at max upgrade...xD

  • @King_Jockey
    @King_Jockey Жыл бұрын

    I stay with 243 because I'm too lazy to change my base and I've memorized my op rotations by heart and i just can't be bothered to do anything, really

  • @info8976

    @info8976

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @bladegrip8459
    @bladegrip8459 Жыл бұрын

    I stick to 243 because I prefer having all rooms in base at max level. Having slightly less optimal production is a small sacrifice I'm willing to make.

  • @dragichav2810

    @dragichav2810

    Жыл бұрын

    Small sacrifice you say after you have watched this vid I can't really tell you anything else.

  • @bladegrip8459

    @bladegrip8459

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd have considered if 252 production is at least 40% better than 243. In reality it is like what, 5%? 10%? That's small. I'll keep my neatly maxed rooms, thank you.

  • @Kindi001

    @Kindi001

    Жыл бұрын

    agree, when you watch something you need take cosideration with your own situation. especially with so many 3 team combo in base skill rn.

  • @dragichav2810

    @dragichav2810

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kindi001 Let's say you play for 2 years and you are getting just by Base decision worst resources in a gacha game which is crucial as gacha games are particularly grindy. Not only that you get worse resource and worst base experience because 2-5-2 is easier to manage unless you don't log in 2 times a day. (which most players do to use their sanity). I only see downsides not to mention if you are spending money in the game specifically to refresh sometimes you just leave money on the table for no reason just because you have basically made up bullshit disorder. That's how you look in the eyes of a 3rd person. It's like saying yeah I don't want free value 🤣🤣

  • @Kindi001

    @Kindi001

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dragichav2810 yes tell me that 5-10k lmd that i lost every day you tottal it for 364 days then 3.640.000 for a year, let me repeat, A YEAR. did i fine with it, yes.

  • @heavenlykanon9855
    @heavenlykanon9855 Жыл бұрын

    all kneel to the chad self-bottlenecking 1-5-3

  • @Dr.Krezotexe
    @Dr.Krezotexe Жыл бұрын

    L + touch grass + you're wasting mats for unworthy exchange + 252 + u checking base like Store Manager + Base still beta

  • @kerui_lol5156

    @kerui_lol5156

    Жыл бұрын

    lmao

  • @Immotes

    @Immotes

    Жыл бұрын

    +ratio+didn't ask

  • @III-jh5jq

    @III-jh5jq

    Жыл бұрын

    🤡

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    6 ай бұрын

    "unworthy exchange" lmao cope

  • @ahmedfalahy9337
    @ahmedfalahy9337 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a dokutah who wants the operators to live in comfy luxury instead of treating them like slave workers sleeping on plastic mats Min-maxing LMD and EXP from base is not worth when you are spoon-fed from recurring events shops

  • @strawberryfloptart958
    @strawberryfloptart958 Жыл бұрын

    "You are not immune to propaganda" - sentences by which to identify people who make propaganda their entire aesthetic.

  • @griin6
    @griin6 Жыл бұрын

    003 > 243

  • @testerfox6998
    @testerfox6998 Жыл бұрын

    I wish they would give base mode a massive update 😢

  • @kana_1298
    @kana_1298 Жыл бұрын

    Every single freaking time i watch these type of videos i just wish i can downgrade the office Pain.

  • @Sceptera
    @Sceptera Жыл бұрын

    Honestly 2/5/2 is better output and even cheaper (building supplies wise) to start out as a base even at the beginning. The difference in output isn't so bad, it is literally about 1/2 days worth of output per Week. That output is not much but adds up over time, after 1 year it is almost 1 month extra output (ie if you ran the base an extra 26 days to keep up with output of a non-right side max 2/5/2) The extra operator skills are becoming more interesting and having those slots makes for interesting combinations, by the time you have max operators you like, and are pretty much at end game, maxing out your base as 2/4/3 is basically like going to lazy mode and maxing everything out, like the feeling of seeing everything maxed. Having quick cycle dorms lets you use those operators in the Workshop and cycle them for more workshop work aswell. End game 2/4/3 is a balanced lazy approach that may produce less but produces enough for your posts/factories to keep running all the while you gets to use a fully maxed out base.

  • @-Seaheart-

    @-Seaheart-

    11 ай бұрын

    Yup, there is a point where it becomes comfortable to choose quality of life over sheer efficiency, the difference in productivity is significant but it isn’t by any means a crippling sacrifice, specially if you are more selective with the units you upgrade. Personally the way how I raise operators I find that the “lmd is the bottleneck” argument to be true, so far it has been always lmd limiting upgrade progression while I sit on a pile of exp (that’s MY experience though,your mileage may vary)

  • @dodobird679
    @dodobird679 Жыл бұрын

    Personally, I don't really agree with your conclusion about the micromanagement myth, especially for a max right 252. One factor you didn't comment on was how long it takes for factories to fill up. A 243 base can be safely checked once every 24 hours with minimal loss, but a 252 will fill some of its downgraded factories in ~14 hours, which means they have to be checked twice a day. In practice, it doesn't really matter because sanity mechanics means that players should be checking twice a day at minimum. However, in a vacuum, a 243 base tends to require less management than a 252 base

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    That's true, a 243 can beat a max-right 252 if you login infrequently like that. But this only applies to max-right 252; all other 252 variants will either match or exceed 243's total capacity. More productive 252 variants may still over-cap, but overall production will still beat 243's regardless of the login interval. And yeah, this doesn't really matter when sanity caps in around 12 hours anyways. I don't think dorms can even support once-a-day base rotations with only 20 total slots.

  • @shaaaar
    @shaaaar Жыл бұрын

    ysee, i use 243 because its more pleasing to me to have everything fully upgraded and the layout of buildings are visually pleasing. reject optimization embrace prettiness

  • @sharkz401
    @sharkz401 Жыл бұрын

    This guy was like insurance company sales who compared his company with competitor.

  • @evee4160
    @evee4160 Жыл бұрын

    I have now converted and now a believer

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    9 ай бұрын

    Based

  • @SillyGirlKisser74
    @SillyGirlKisser74 Жыл бұрын

    The true endgame of Arknights is Base management and I love it Also, 3/3/3 FTW

  • @endthetem2650

    @endthetem2650

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a question. Do you have enough Pure Gold to supply 3 Trading Post? I assume you have 2 Pure Gold - 1 Exp

  • @indexwell6546

    @indexwell6546

    Жыл бұрын

    Depending on wether ur trading post has higher eff/reduce gold req, and also ur gold produce eff

  • @yugao2
    @yugao2 Жыл бұрын

    if you whale in game, just use 153 and spam ce6, its faster if you want to level up ops faster

  • @virgondust5562

    @virgondust5562

    11 ай бұрын

    I also do 153 and I'm f2p😂

  • @dryptosaurus
    @dryptosaurus Жыл бұрын

    I run 243 and I set out to not change my base setup until the right side is downgrade-able. Partially because I miss the 12 hour rotations a lot regularly and forget to get the extra 300 of visiting friends bases, so I don't think that 252 would be that great. But mostly it's just about being used to it.

  • @unknown2142
    @unknown2142 Жыл бұрын

    and always has been ... Love your content, keep it up 🥰

  • @falafel2964
    @falafel2964 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who is using 252, I rarely had a bottleneck for LMD. I've been overproducing gold with three gold factories, and periodically I get enough of a surplus to switch to 2 gold factories AND supply both trading posts for a couple of weeks; before having to switch back to 3 gold factoried again.

  • @arulkws
    @arulkws Жыл бұрын

    i love how the 243 are coping so hard in the comments and just use the arguement "well i love my current setup" or "i'm too lazy to get used to the new rotation" or "yeah it's just my preference"

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    10 ай бұрын

    just like the 252 are coping "it has 10% more resources tho"

  • @arulkws

    @arulkws

    10 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183 that's not cope, that's the entire point

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    10 ай бұрын

    @@arulkws the entire point to cope at

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    9 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183 cope

  • @shinobuoshino5066

    @shinobuoshino5066

    6 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183 10% more resources while doing 1000% less work.

  • @fftechsupport
    @fftechsupport Жыл бұрын

    Can confirm, i use 2-5-2 for a while now. Man how i wish i can downgrade my office

  • @Metrox524
    @Metrox524 Жыл бұрын

    I just keep using 3-3-3 because is comfy and i don't feel like tryharding the base part.

  • @815TypeSirius
    @815TypeSirius Жыл бұрын

    I use 243 to own the libs

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    9 ай бұрын

    Until you realize the 243 is the libs all along

  • @yosi2142
    @yosi2142 Жыл бұрын

    love these voiced videos. really convenient while im driving or working

  • @metalclaw149474
    @metalclaw149474 Жыл бұрын

    i was on the copium that HG will add 243 optimal specific baseskills to make their base feel intuitive but then proviso happened and now i just think theres one sick bastard trying to torture (or gift, depending on perspective i guess) the data minmaxers every update

  • @jabroni4164
    @jabroni41642 ай бұрын

    With 3 power plant means drone recharge faster. More available drones can be use to boost factory and trading post production

  • @suciocasual
    @suciocasual Жыл бұрын

    truly one of the thumbnails of all time

  • @dokutah6997
    @dokutah6997 Жыл бұрын

    Hello. I am an f2p dokutah (ever since) and I switched to a 2-5-2 setup from the 2-4-3 one very recently. I have been playing for 3 years and I am experimenting how far I can go with the new base setup. Only if the right side facilities of the base can be downgraded to give way for base productivity, and things may go a whole lot better in terms of shifting base compositions.

  • @vo42
    @vo42 Жыл бұрын

    Great example of how math can beat prejudice. Keep up the great work Peter

  • @blackgatoacer9211
    @blackgatoacer9211 Жыл бұрын

    B-BUT BUT BUT SCIFI'S SHEETS ARE SO OUTDATED. HYPERGRYPH HAS ALWAYS BEEN MAKING NEW BASESKILLS THAT FAVOR 243 LIKE FIAMMETTA, PROVISO AND MLYNAR. IN THE CURRENT TIME 243 WILL DEFINITELY BEAT 252 MAX LEFT. A-A-ALSO YOU MUST HATE 243 SO YOU CHERRY PICKED YOUR RESEARCH SO THAT 252 LOOKS BETTER. I-I-I WON'T ACCEPT THIS. Congrats on the subs number Peter.

  • @arcanumdelta
    @arcanumdelta Жыл бұрын

    I love how the links for the citations at the end were manually typed out lmao congrats on 2.6k (2.7 soon!!!) subs !

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    ahaha yes I manually typed them out and definitely did not use an AutoHotkey

  • @arcanumdelta

    @arcanumdelta

    Жыл бұрын

    that doesn’t mean I still can’t find it funny >:(

  • @blackmastery
    @blackmastery Жыл бұрын

    hg should make a separately game about rhodes base

  • @itsarkad4157

    @itsarkad4157

    10 ай бұрын

    Rhodotomy corporation 😂

  • @gleam4198
    @gleam4198 Жыл бұрын

    reason why 252 is better: you can make pp design on your base hence 252 >>>>>> 243

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    10 ай бұрын

    that's like overcompensating lol

  • @trungsamset0
    @trungsamset0 Жыл бұрын

    also we need base update 💀💀

  • @MereleFerele
    @MereleFerele Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I didn't know about the 🅱enis meta, thank you for opening my eyes

  • @trungsamset0
    @trungsamset0 Жыл бұрын

    2-4-3 for OCD ppl like me

  • @zbz5505
    @zbz5505 Жыл бұрын

    Eh, I'm running 252 and I'm getting 58k/63k lmd a day while I only get 27k exp. So idk what people mean with lack of moneh.

  • @idonthaveaname5184
    @idonthaveaname51845 ай бұрын

    everyone: *debating about 243 and 252* me who uses 333:

  • @GrimoireLeSot
    @GrimoireLeSot Жыл бұрын

    At first I was reluctant to switch from 2-4-3 setup but after some convincing I decided to switch over to 2-5-2. Other than getting used to rotations its been good + gold is no longer a surplus

  • @dragichav2810

    @dragichav2810

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh when did you switched?

  • @GrimoireLeSot

    @GrimoireLeSot

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dragichav2810 switched a week ago, dylan who convinced me of switching because I keep running out of exp n have no gold

  • @dragichav2810

    @dragichav2810

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GrimoireLeSot Good I'm sure you will like it.

  • @myxto1364
    @myxto1364 Жыл бұрын

    is a 2-5-2 with all factories at lvl 3, training room lvl 3 and only 3 dorms lvl 1 worth? you sacrifice a bunch of pinboard missions rewards (rip texas) and only 1 support unit for friends (no 6*) because you have to leave reception room at lvl 1

  • @Zyrader

    @Zyrader

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, that's the most idiotic point of this guy. "BuT iT cReAtE MoRe rEsOuRcEs". Well, hell yeah it did. But, considering all the things that you've lost or cannot obtain. It is so stupid to just leave that only for some LMD and EXP that will definitely overshadowed by events rewards.

  • @dragichav2810
    @dragichav2810 Жыл бұрын

    Very much appreciated video. I'm using max right side 2-5-2 since 1st anniversary when W came and I'm Very happy I switched rather early 6 months in the game (for me). Also 9:49 had me dying that's some masterpiece 🤣🤣🤣

  • @boreddoggo1116
    @boreddoggo1116 Жыл бұрын

    Im still sticking to 243 though this is quite an interesting video!

  • @Kindi001
    @Kindi001 Жыл бұрын

    i see, so its not big different. true its more productive 252 and when i look at it its not that i always check my base like every 12 every day. sometimes i just forgot because work. i think many people like 243 because its kinda forgiving (?) when you cant check ontime. welp its fine i guess?

  • @dindapriska

    @dindapriska

    Жыл бұрын

    At the end of the day, it's fine either way. 243 may be worse, may be not, but if that fits their preference and life schedule, then it's their decision to keep it.

  • @sepire0924
    @sepire0924 Жыл бұрын

    While I didn't think 243 is better than 252 with my maxed right side, I just didn't have the motivation or facts like this to consider, this vid cleared my doubts and I'm switching to 252 😭

  • @ironwiredglasses
    @ironwiredglasses11 ай бұрын

    the non 252 user in the comment sections are coping so hard it's funny 😂😂😂 i love this

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    10 ай бұрын

    "hehe I still have my 10% increase of resources unlike those non 252" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    9 ай бұрын

    The guy above me is in every video about 252😹

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    9 ай бұрын

    @@wickeddave5148 in like what, two videos? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    6 ай бұрын

    I bet you can barely reach 60k LMD daily. So sad and pathetic😢😢

  • @shinobuoshino5066

    @shinobuoshino5066

    6 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183 but 5th factory beats it by default 😂

  • @lucasleong8529
    @lucasleong8529 Жыл бұрын

    7:18 i always thought it was called casualty points until you read it out loud lmao

  • @JeremyZero
    @JeremyZero Жыл бұрын

    I really want to see production calculator for 243 and 252 Max Right assume we have all base skill. Previously calculation point out that 243 6h beat 252 max right but that nearly 1 year ago. Not sure what status of that right now.

  • @marcodragon4995
    @marcodragon4995 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry but I'm still not downgrading my factories and dorms for 5% more efficiency

  • @rasiah2415
    @rasiah2415 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. Finally changed from 333 to 252. Always thought I wouldn't had enough power since I too also had my right side fully upgraded

  • @Simon-ur7bi
    @Simon-ur7bi Жыл бұрын

    And then there's people like me who just couldn't care less about all this since I already have all that I want, and a good stock of EXP/LMD. Unless I just suddenly decide I want to e2 max literally everyone that I don't use, I really couldn't care less about lower efficiency or whatever

  • @aldinvidal4308
    @aldinvidal43084 ай бұрын

    cool but i want to keep my facilities at max level

  • @Yammatti
    @Yammatti26 күн бұрын

    Imo i'm just lazy to do 252 Tho you made your points clear and info so i'm sure ppl will stop slapping 252 and instead do it I'm happy with no pp on 243 lmao

  • @tenshi_nc
    @tenshi_nc5 ай бұрын

    with great video comes great comment section

  • @RavFromYetti
    @RavFromYetti5 ай бұрын

    I used 333 for about... idk since release or so, 252 it is. ty

  • @wasabi926
    @wasabi926 Жыл бұрын

    your voice overs are pretty good imo. just saying

  • @samfriend3675
    @samfriend3675 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a staunch 243 user... because nuildings that aren't maxed would drive me insane. I will make a slight disagreement about the Trust point, though. 200 trust can be valuable for the extra lore information it unlocks in your operators. Does it make a huge difference? No. Do I like having that lore information? Yes.

  • @Raptchur

    @Raptchur

    Жыл бұрын

    You aren't making a good case for 2-4-3 whatsoever. You realize that right? These are not at all good reasons to do 243... If you kept your weird quirks to yourself, then this dude wouldn't have to makes graphs and spreadsheets about a freaking video game.

  • @shinobuoshino5066

    @shinobuoshino5066

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Raptchur I'm glad he did because I'm tired of being given shit advice. These 2-4-3 clowns probably are the same ones that almost trolled me into focusing on 5* and 6* operators when 3*'s just work until I can farm mats for 4* E2 and so on.

  • @justyourusualDoktah
    @justyourusualDoktah6 ай бұрын

    After like 8 months into the game and having 243 for the majority, i switched to 252. Now i have a bunch of wasted boxes but oh well

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    6 ай бұрын

    dont bother switching, I'm currently sitting on like 3M resources from 2-4-3 the 2-5-2 guys just want to share their hardships over a measly 10% 😂😂😂😂

  • @justyourusualDoktah

    @justyourusualDoktah

    6 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183 Bro. I’ve been switched for 2 weeks now. What was the point of your reply? Also for the record I’m making much more LMD from my wack 2-5-2 than I ever have from 2-4-3

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    6 ай бұрын

    @@justyourusualDoktah have fun then, I'm just having fun shitting on 2-5-2 guys who are acting smug over a 10% increase and my point in commenting to everyone including yours that overabundance in resources doesn't make squat as if the game churns out new operators every week or at least a month

  • @D1-Hater

    @D1-Hater

    5 ай бұрын

    @@xeroxcopy8183why is there so much beef between BASE LAYOUTS holy shit 😭 i’m a returning player after 2.5 years on 252 checking out if the meta changed somehow, thank god it hasn’t but the base community is brazy

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    5 ай бұрын

    @@D1-Hater well, the 2-5-2 guys started it acting superior over a mere small increase

  • @ismailabdulq1492
    @ismailabdulq1492 Жыл бұрын

    252 is the best setup, especially after Fiameeta, Provisso and Mlynar added. 5 factory mean you can switch to XP when you have surplus gold or switch back to gold when you run out since Provisso spend so much of it or you can also make Orundum Material and it won't mess up overall production. I don't know why people think 252 can't be used foe endgame, it indeed give more benefit for endgame player like me. Never struggle with XP stage anymore after switch to 252.

  • @Pramit2000
    @Pramit2000 Жыл бұрын

    Can anyone tell me about the base rotations? I am using 333 for reaching 10million LMD which I will in few days. So, I am planning to switch to 253. Just simple note will help.

  • @valoronions

    @valoronions

    Жыл бұрын

    253 arknights en base hack working october 2022??????

  • @Pramit2000

    @Pramit2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@valoronions 1) If I search this in youtube I find Freefire content. 2) It would be a shame to use hack in AK as an AK player.

  • @manofculture3638
    @manofculture3638 Жыл бұрын

    I am a 243 rotation of powerful operator combos masochist, I need that efficiency and until the right side will be downgradable I will keep suffering bcz HG are d*cks to veteran players

  • @dragichav2810

    @dragichav2810

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you sleeping like 5h for years ZAMN

  • @X3sit0n
    @X3sit0n Жыл бұрын

    I do 243 cus I get too annoyed at non maxed out buildings.

  • @catcatcatcatnip
    @catcatcatcatnip Жыл бұрын

    okay, I'm sold

  • @AquaticIdealist
    @AquaticIdealist Жыл бұрын

    I've found 15 slot (3 dorm) 252 to be an amazing build, though any upgrades to office or reception room is fatal for that build. I'm confused at the idea that a 15 slot or any of the max right variants of 252 would be considered "not end game" builds. That's just weird, the numbers speak for themselves That being said I keep my main at 243 or 153 or aesthetic reasons or personal need, but the 15 slot alt account has consistently beaten my 243 despite the latter having more E2'd base ops, rotations being way easier with 3 power plants and 4 maxed dorms etc. The debate is basically solved, 252 supremacy is real, but it's pretty silly to treat builds outside of like 006 or something insane like 513 a mistake... A base that's managed will produce plenty of stuff after all TLDR: Yeah people who claim 252 isn't the optimal build are being silly, but the perks of three power plants, especially when HG refuses to let us downgrade the right side, can be too delicious to avoid

  • @FenniruDrexter
    @FenniruDrexter Жыл бұрын

    what's with 200% trust for friend to borrow it? first time i heard abt it

  • @keygunC

    @keygunC

    Жыл бұрын

    Support units trust effect is halved, so if your operator's trust is at 100%, others who use them will have the effect at 50%

  • @NerdgearSama
    @NerdgearSama Жыл бұрын

    This is pretty entertaining as a 3/3/3 base player xd

  • @docthor8925
    @docthor8925 Жыл бұрын

    i'm using 2-4-3 at the moment and i felt like it was very underwhelming. i'm going to try 2-5-2 and see how that go. thanks to the advice

  • @TheVigilo
    @TheVigilo Жыл бұрын

    i dream of proviso at night

  • @bombgameing
    @bombgameing Жыл бұрын

    he realized how to catch the views of all the en players, if en players cant read......he made video to make them watch. outstanding move

  • @Raptchur

    @Raptchur

    Жыл бұрын

    wtf are you even talking about? Yes it is very surprising he made a video on youtube. Most people do talk in their vids. The ones that don't is because either their english is trash, or they live in a tiny home with 17 family members... or both.

  • @Raptchur

    @Raptchur

    Жыл бұрын

    btw your comment just screams i mobile game because i have no other options.

  • @kek_9866
    @kek_9866 Жыл бұрын

    I'll stick with 253 too lazy to change the base and it looks more right to me that everything is upgraded, couldn't careless about producing more lmd or xp , it produces enough for me to not care about changing it

  • @Kino-ry8vo
    @Kino-ry8vo Жыл бұрын

    This just made me less want to switch ngl, it just reminded me when I used to nerd tf out on discord servers. And I gotta say that just made me feel miserable ngl...

  • @extant-8492
    @extant-8492 Жыл бұрын

    I have a question related to a couple Pinboard Missions. In some later Pinboard phases it is required to maxed out ambience in the dorms. Is it possible to complete these Missions with a 252 base layout? Or will I have to swap my layout to a 243 to get the missions done?

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    You'll only need 5000 total ambience for pinboard missions. This can be easily done by just having 4 dorms with one at level 2. There's another mission for 4000 ambience in a single dorm, which is a bit trickier. Downgrade some factories until you have enough power to upgrade a single dorm to level 4, complete the mission, then undo everything.

  • @extant-8492

    @extant-8492

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PeterYR Ahh, I went back to re-read the one related to 5000 ambience and realized I misunderstood it (thought it read each of the four dorms needed to be at 5000 ambience). Much less of a concern now that I understand it. Appreciate the reply and thanks for the work you do here. It's been a big help.

  • @bearful
    @bearful Жыл бұрын

    i wonder if 243 had any chance of catching up to max right 252 if switching to 3 exp factories every few weeks was considered? (from 2 gold factories gold surplus). Before switching my base to 252 i used to do exactly that, collect about 400 gold bars and then switch to 1 gold 3 exp for ~52 exp cards a day.

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    This is similar to having 1 flex factory in 252 and droning only TPs. It matches 252's LMD production, but overall production doesn't increase. For most players, this will actually decrease overall production, as there are many EXP-only factory base skills that a single factory won't be able to utilize.

  • @bearful

    @bearful

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PeterYR ah! alright. i have almost everyone except gnosis carmelian and archetto, so maybe that's why it seemed like a lot to me

  • @aryapratama2884
    @aryapratama2884 Жыл бұрын

    Me who doesn't know what is 252 and 243. I'm using 333

  • @teavran
    @teavran Жыл бұрын

    I do 243 because it keeps all rooms at max level and that tickles my autistic brain in a good way 🌝

  • @Ender_Wiggin03
    @Ender_Wiggin03 Жыл бұрын

    @PeterYR why is having Fiammetta a bad idea for 243? She's been great since I got her...

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    She doesn't hurt 243 in any way, but she benefits infrequent rotation schedules more than frequent schedules. 243 needs frequent rotations to beat 252, so she benefits 252 a lot more. So if you have Fiammetta, 243 can't beat max-right 252 even with frequent rotations.

  • @Drails
    @Drails Жыл бұрын

    but my 24hr rotations

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    no one tell him about any 252 without max-right pepela

  • @Drails

    @Drails

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PeterYR didn't neia and like 2 other weehs nerds come up with a 24 rotation that beats best 252

  • @pavluck127
    @pavluck127 Жыл бұрын

    All of you are wrong, 333 is superior in every way imaginable because (some math here idk). Something something rotations something something everything maxed means better.

  • @noitcaerava
    @noitcaerava Жыл бұрын

    I use 342 and when i need upgrade materials its sucks. Regen in dorm is so slow

  • @army001003
    @army001003 Жыл бұрын

    I confuse when I use 243 setup the riic report factory exp and gold combine worth about 80,000 but when I switch to 252 it down to about 70,000 why is that I know the report can be manipulate but if I maintain them the best uptime 252 should have higher number no ? the trading post still have about the same number both 243 and 252

  • @ZenHorakti
    @ZenHorakti Жыл бұрын

    If You ask me why I will never change to 252. 1. Whisperain and Mulberry 2. Vigil, Minimalist, Archetto.

  • @elipothesarcosuchus8758
    @elipothesarcosuchus8758 Жыл бұрын

    I just switched to 252 and i gotta say my base looks weird af

  • @elipothesarcosuchus8758

    @elipothesarcosuchus8758

    Жыл бұрын

    @Andrew bruh what

  • @heiligkeit6345
    @heiligkeit6345 Жыл бұрын

    Ok, you have me convinced why 252 is good... Too bad I just don't care about switching

  • @Zafang
    @Zafang Жыл бұрын

    𝓬𝓸𝓬𝓴 formation is the main reason why anyone should consider using 252 over 243

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    the primary purpose of this video was to expose my 𝓬𝓸𝓬𝓴 to the public

  • @wickeddave5148

    @wickeddave5148

    9 ай бұрын

    Based

  • @NoManIsland99
    @NoManIsland99 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Peter, I hope you can answer my question Is the difference between 243 and max right side 252, the amount of gold and EXP produced? I did my own math (not sure if it's correct) and I see that max right 252 produces more gold/exp depending on the last factory. However this doesn't affect the productivity of the trading post right? Meaning that both produce the same amount of LMD if I do the same 12h rotations (unless certain base skills). If that's the case, if I maintain my 243 I'd only lose out on EXP production right? Since my gold always maintains between 250-300 bars.

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    5:03 With 3 factories on gold, 252 can dump all drones into trading posts. 243 can't do this without quickly running out of gold.

  • @NoManIsland99

    @NoManIsland99

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PeterYR thank you for replying. Currently I use drones when Shamare setup is present, and when they rest I dump it all for EXP. Inefficient it may be, I'm happy I've improved from randomly assigning characters to having a rotating schedule.

  • @ultimatedrive8657
    @ultimatedrive8657 Жыл бұрын

    My guy just exposed how people are bad at math.

  • @Monub_8206
    @Monub_8206 Жыл бұрын

    As someone who rarely logins twice a day, i am keeping 243 thanks Also about the lmd and exp thing, fifth factory can also be used by people like me for orundum farming

  • @Raptchur

    @Raptchur

    Жыл бұрын

    You should have logged in instead of watching a video that you know wouldn't change your mind. How can a fifth factory be used for orundum if you don't have 5 factories? No wonder he has so many examples of 243 lovers that are easily proved wrong. It's plain to see that 243 users are casuals. That they don't want to put in the time or effort and show up to comment or watch these vids because they resent the people that do.

  • @kr4547

    @kr4547

    Жыл бұрын

    People really don't know anything about 252 if they think it needs frequent log ins. And it's clear you're not going to bother researching anyways

  • @shinobuoshino5066

    @shinobuoshino5066

    6 ай бұрын

    Orundum in factory is so slow that it's a waste to do it but even if you do it, it's better with 5 factories.

  • @agentminerchuan007
    @agentminerchuan007 Жыл бұрын

    If people argue about balance use 333 then lol

  • @brittle1
    @brittle1 Жыл бұрын

    What you fail to mention is doing base rotations diligently every day, at least twice a day, for a year is much much better than optimizing 252 or 243 or any base layout for that matter. I'm willing to bet most people don't even do their base rotations regularly, heck most people don't even do their recruitments regularly. So your video is kind of a moot point even if it is true.

  • @shinobuoshino5066

    @shinobuoshino5066

    6 ай бұрын

    >at least twice a day Well good thing 252 works perfectly fine on 12 hour rotations unlike 243 which requires switching every 37 minutes to be almost as efficient to 252.

  • @birddispenser
    @birddispenser Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info dude, decided to switch over to 2/5/2 on both accounts and am looking forward to seeing the difference. Seeing all of the high construction mats that are left over made me feel like a bit of a bozo (all that wasted sanity, oof.)

  • @zodkip3147
    @zodkip3147Ай бұрын

    why do you not talk about doing a 252 with 3 dorms instead of 4 dorms? Just dont level the office and reception room and isnt that peak efficieny?

  • @megusmith6258
    @megusmith6258 Жыл бұрын

    I'm just lazy

  • @pixellluca
    @pixellluca Жыл бұрын

    Is 252 better? Yes. Do I care? No.

  • @elesissieghart
    @elesissieghart Жыл бұрын

    As max right, I upgraded my facyories level as 3 3 2 2 1 is that a good idea?

  • @elesissieghart

    @elesissieghart

    Жыл бұрын

    It actually feels like I downgraded everything for a lv 1 factories

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    Жыл бұрын

    I generally recommend using level 3/2/2/2/2 factories. A level 1 factory might have too little capacity if you don't log in and collect items often, but if you need the extra level 3 factory for some base combos, it might be worth it.

  • @elesissieghart

    @elesissieghart

    Жыл бұрын

    Well then, I'm looking forward with the results

  • @cymo2433
    @cymo2433 Жыл бұрын

    to be dead honest. I don't understand most of the things that where just said.

  • @Dainabyss
    @Dainabyss10 ай бұрын

    We get almost 3k trust per day by spending sanity alone? Isn't it 1:1?

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    10 ай бұрын

    Every operator in the squad gets 1 trust per sanity spent; it doesn't get spread out across the squad.

  • @Dainabyss

    @Dainabyss

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@PeterYRI'm confused at 9:19. If I'm not mistaken, the video said 252 takes 2.5 days to 100% trust an op. But doesn't 100 trust require 10k points? Shouldn't that be impossible to achieve within 2.5 days since we only gain about 270 sanity/day?

  • @PeterYR

    @PeterYR

    10 ай бұрын

    That's an average figure, across all 12 operators in a squad. Trust farming alone will raise a single operator to 100% trust in around 42 days, but since you can fit 12 operators in a squad, you can get an operator to 100% trust every 3.5 days on average. Trust from the base will speed this up slightly.

  • @Dainabyss

    @Dainabyss

    10 ай бұрын

    @@PeterYR Ah. So that's why. Thank you for the explanation.

  • @shinobuoshino5066
    @shinobuoshino50666 ай бұрын

    243 is better though. All botters use it.

  • @xeroxcopy8183

    @xeroxcopy8183

    6 ай бұрын

    only logins at 8:00pm (utc+9) + excess resources + fully upgraded ops with 2-4-3 and I'm not even botting

  • @Yashiru619
    @Yashiru619 Жыл бұрын

    I use 333.its good

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