Thank you for finally admitting what most people knew but were afraid to talk about. Especially putting back Cameron and Jarred back in the game while no one else got a chance.

@sonicducktheinoccent

8 ай бұрын

I mean...technically jag did

@miggans21012

8 ай бұрын

@@sonicducktheinoccent Well that is true. 👍

@ameliabalch831

6 ай бұрын

jag?

Cirie's gameplay on Big Brother vs Survivor points out the obvious factor in how completely centralized the power is around comps in the former. Cirie never won a single immunity challenge during her stay on Survivor but was still able to lead dynamic gameplay due to the format where every non-idol player is vulnerable. On Big Brother, she's regulated to playing such a quiet game due to her targets winning comps back to back which not only ensure them immunity but selects only their targets to be available to be eliminated. It's hard to lead a dynamic game when you can't win comps on Big Brother against ride-or-die comp beat alliances. You would have no idea of what Cirie is capable of if you watched only her Big Brother game and not Survivor.

@ashleyblu-ray3755

8 ай бұрын

She was also fanatic on Traitors, which relies more on social strategy and less on challenges. There are challenges, but they’re for building the prize money. So Cirie was able to shine.

@scottc2076

8 ай бұрын

Cirie played too hard too fast in big brother which is a longer game and she did better in traitors which was a much shorter game. She made a few blunders strategically like leaving cam and Bowie out of the red vote and not telling Jag that she convinced Matt to save him and isolating Jag for example. And this week for letting Jag and Bowie being the first ones to talk to Matt and not talk to him at all the first night. Big brother is 1/3 social 1/3 strategy 1/3 comps, and you really need at least 2/3 to win. Cirie is the GOAT of social play, average at strategy, and abysmal at comps.

@mrball4148

8 ай бұрын

ive only seen her on bb but i can tell shes a huge social gamer. everybody in the bb house knows it tho and i rlly think thats where she falls short. the house knows shes good at social games and cameron acted on it hard chopping off her allies that could win for her and really do her bidding. this season could have easily been in the favor of cirie if camron was evicted either week 1 or 2 when he was on the block, but that didnt happen and it costed cerie her game in the long run

@khntou4178

8 ай бұрын

@@scottc2076Yeah it's obvious she's made quite a few mistakes into the late game partially because she's not used to this game length. Also her relaionship with Jared really screwed with her because she'd throw her game down before hurting his. I don't think I've ever seen any self-destructive player quite like Jared and Cirie had to cover for him time and time again.

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

@@khntou4178 Jared was just a terrible player who let insecurity overtake a very strong game position in only a few weeks. As soon as Cirie was away for a few days he had no check left and completely alienated the people he needed to stay in the game. Cirie had flaws as a player, but her worst mistake (booting Red over Jag) was all down to Jared. And I don't think she ever wanted to be on the show, only went on for Jared, so when he was evicted, and Izzy was evicted, her heart wasn't in it anymore. She had a few glimmers, like when she tried to work with Cory in his eviction week, but as others mentioned, the comps were so stacked in the favor of a few players (and she had no real allies left) there was nothing left for her.

That clip of Johnny Mac bewildered walking out to Frankie is laugh out loud funny every single time

@AliFrankTheTank

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Johnny Mac a BB legend !!!

@4eversteena

8 ай бұрын

Gotta love J Mac!😂

@tenleeso10

8 ай бұрын

Knowing he’s a conservative too 😭

Honorable mention to the fact that the same three men will win every single comp on most modern seasons…

@tyler_smith

3 ай бұрын

This genuinely needs to be looked at. Competitions have a huge impact on who wins. And I suppose production thinks we're watching for the carnival games rather than the social strategy game????

It's a good day when Ethanimale & Peridiam upload

The only unfortunate truth is Helen was pushed 😞

@AliFrankTheTank

8 ай бұрын

was touched/signaled to jump off* but facts

@hith2re

8 ай бұрын

I swear she tweeted a few years ago how this didn't happen to end the rumor once and for all

@tyler_smith

3 ай бұрын

Andy says she wasn't and says helen agrees

@superdead_2

Ай бұрын

more like the unfortunate truth that she wasn't

Was hoping you addressed a big unfortunate truth about Big Brother that's come to light recently more than ever: comps are a big part of the game of Big Brother. While much of the fandom wants the best strategic and/or social player to win every season, much of the time they aren't simply due to how the comps play out. The game of Big Brother is dictated by whose in power, which is determined by comps. You can only do so much to manipulate that person into making sub-optimal decisions for them that benefits you.

@quiddity131

8 ай бұрын

I think something big we fans have to accept is not only how important the comps are now, but also the fact that production does not care about our complaints about how many of the comps are not fair to certain houseguests or give too much of an advantage to others. For both Survivor and Big Brother, whether its CBS pushing it or something else, production is obsessed with these elaborate challenges with physical components. It is clear that they do not care about our complaints. They are not going away.

@scottc2076

8 ай бұрын

The game is roughly 1/3 social, 1/3 strategy and 1/3 comps. If you want a pure social game there’s the Traitors. You cannot win the game exclusively from comps. In the early game you can be backdoored, so you need decent enough of a social/strategic game to make it to the part of the game where you can win outright. And even then you can only come to final 2, you can’t comp your way to a win as you do have to convince a jury. If comps are a big factor in no world should Taylor have ever beaten Monte, but juries still respect good social play over comps.

@midnalazuli793

8 ай бұрын

I feel like everyone already knows that.

@scottc2076

8 ай бұрын

@@midnalazuli793 people don’t tho. People don’t consider comp ability as a factor when considering how good a big brother player is.

@TheMArtagnan

8 ай бұрын

@@scottc2076feels like it’s 1/8 social 2/8 strategy 5/8 physical prowess, I think that’s what people don’t like about competitions

I think luck is a bigger part of the game than people want to admit. So many legendary players games get ended without a bit of luck (and like you said, producer interference.)

@olivermensinger6022

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Also the argument “X winner would lose on this season.” applies to every single winner.

@spacecadet2172

8 ай бұрын

YES so true

@TheMArtagnan

8 ай бұрын

All these social games require luck, like in survivor 20 heroes vs villains I think Russell could have won if he simply acknowledged that luck was a major factor to his game

@spacecadet2172

8 ай бұрын

No the jury was too bitter unfortunately. That would never happen. One of the most disgraceful juries in survivor history@@TheMArtagnan

@Minecraftlover73

2 ай бұрын

​@spacecadet2172 He lost cause he needlessly bullied the players before sending them out, try again.

I'm so glad you made it clear, Janelle wasnt winning BB6. As soon as Jennifer won the pressure cooker, a frienship member was winning BB6, as long as one of them made it to the end.

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

I do remember some fan speculation about whether or not April would have voted for Ivette over Janelle, as April couldn't stand Ivette, but she probably would have been pushed into it.

@CommanderNam

11 күн бұрын

@@kengeorgejones6855april and james both confirmed their votes wouldve gone to janelle and not ivette if janelle won the last hoh and evicted maggie

Have-Nots can not replace food comps, too much volunteering has completely nuked any effect it has on the social bonds formed. MAKE them compete in teams in order to actually stir the pot and provide reasons to make players dislike each other

I don’t know if anyone has ever seen the documentary series unreal. But it exposes how far reality tv producers can go to get the storylines the desire. For me personally it changed my whole view on reality tv in general.

I do really appreciate the discussion on the Danielle loss, because her loss there is so frustrating to me, not because its unfair to her, but because of how much she just does it to herself. 1) Obviously evicting Amy was a terrible move. Probably the only person on the whole cast she could have beaten, and even then its not secure (maybe Gerry too actually) 2) She knew the format of the show, and when Roddy, the most influential person on the whole season, leaves mad at you, AND THEN sees your DRs constantly complaining about him, you better bet that man is gonna go to work turning the jury against you, which he did. He probably does this even with a sequestered jury. Roddy was a scarily effective player at points, probably more manipulative than Danielle ever was. 3) People really love to bring up Dr. will's win, claiming that BB2s cast wasn't bitter, but BB3s was, but they're straight up wrong. It WAS a bitter jury, they were just way more bitter against Nicole and Hardy than anyone else. Nicole was MUCH more the villain of the season in the edit than Will was, and she was the one masterminding the events of the season beginning to end. So even though will was cocky, and a little mean, he was the lesser of two evils there, and won despite having very little influence on the actual game. Which leads to 4) THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS ON BB3 THE WHOLE TIME! Over, and over, and OVER on the feeds this cast talked about how two villains were at the end last time, and how they wouldn't let that happen again, and how they wanted a hero to represent their cast. And yet Danielle STILL plays the villain in the DR and pisses all of them off! Its near Paul levels in terms of genuinely terrible jury management, because even though Paul didn't own their game and was crueller than Danielle at least the cast wasn't spelling out exactly what they wanted from them every five seconds. The BB3 cast told Danielle what they wanted from her, and she decided to give them the opposite, perfectly happy to give Jason or Lisa the win

@Cinemagrins

8 ай бұрын

Last sentence of 2) is a bitter pill to swallow, Danielle is just not the best player of her season.

@Lexie-gr9tv

8 ай бұрын

@@Cinemagrins Eh. She played the best game of the season but Jason is probably a better player in terms of how much they can win on any given season.

@quiddity131

8 ай бұрын

Great points! I recall a hilarious number of DRs from Danielle the first week of the show where she was making personal attacks on pretty much every single HG. Like I think she called Josh the most disgusting person in the world or something like that. She was making fun of the way several HGs talked. Etc... As a viewer I loved it and its part of why Danielle was my favorite that season. But imagine being a juror, going home and starting up the season and seeing Danielle say all that stuff right from the get go about you. It's bound to piss the jurors off.

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

@@quiddity131 That's how I felt at the time, and generally still do. To be honest the outrage over her not winning when she played a game that (while extremely entertaining) was not a winning game (right down to her wanting to go to the end with Jason, who would have easily won) annoyed me enough that it wasn't until she came back in BB7 that I did appreciate more what a strong player she was, and I was rooting for her to win that season even though I knew it wasn't likely. Danielle was a very dynamic player, she always kept the game exciting, and she was one of the most charismatic players - it makes sense why people wanted to see her win. That doesn't mean she was robbed.

@brianregan5933

8 ай бұрын

@@Cinemagrins I do think Danielle is still the best player of her season (if not her its Jason). Roddy wasn't consistently great, he just had moments of flash in the pan brilliance, and he brought that ability outside of the game

You mean production asking Jared repeatedly if America was going after Cerie, leading Jared to believe America was going after Cerie, wasnt an accident? 😮*Pretends to be shocked* lol. I've lost so much interest in the game these past few years I wish they would just let the game play out. I'd say that's what we want to see but tv only viewers don't and don't care about what actually happens. They are still convinced Cam was good at the game...

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

The TV edits are so terrible now that I don't even want to imagine what a casual thinks about the show. Bland, full of bad filler, no characters beyond a few one-note stereotypes, and more than half the episode spent on comp recaps.

THANK YOU!!! I've had this opinion about Danielle Reyes for a while now. She dominated her season and played the best game but we have to be honest that she did not manage that jury the best way. Her attitude about being "evil" maybe would have worked if 1. Will didnt win the season before and 2. if Lisa was a worst player

@ameliabalch

8 ай бұрын

no fr. it's kinda like paul in bb19. he undoubtedly played the best game but just didn't manage the jury at all

Gotta do the same for survivor

@sweetpea27

8 ай бұрын

I agree. I feel like one of the unfortunate truths is that we are likely never going back to 39 days, I think 26 days is here to stay.

@johnbrewer62

8 ай бұрын

@@sweetpea27 or the forced fire making which I still hate

@Cinemagrins

8 ай бұрын

Also changing locations is more expensive than just making a permanent base and shipping people over to it we will never get a Arctic season either :(@@sweetpea27

@nickkolb8179

8 ай бұрын

He seems to give Survivor a pass despite the fact that there is just as much if not more production intervention in survivor. I work with the wife of Jesse from season 43 and have heard plenty of details to be sure that Survivor is much faker than BB.

I'm glad Danielle's loss in BB3 gets brought up here, because I've always thought blaming the non-sequestered Jury was kinda dumb. Will won BB2 without a sequestered Jury, so Danielle would have known about that, and should have had no reason to think that a non-sequestered Jury wasn't just going to be the norm for Big Brother in general and taken that into account with her DRs.

@handsoaphandsoap

8 ай бұрын

True but also, she was cast on a television show to provide entertainment so there’s an inherent descrepancy between the game and the expectation of being entertaining without a sequestered jury. If the sequestered jury isn’t implemented after Danielle’s loss, every single contestant will be a milk toast version of themselves knowing that they’ll lose by default if they ever speak badly on other contestants with the potential of it making air. That being said, Danielle loses BB3 no matter what tbh, the cast just wasn’t featuring her and they didn’t understand why her game was so remarkable. Even if they had been sequestered and not seen her DRs, they would’ve instead just compared notes in the jury house on the things she said about them.

@SpanishFly120

8 ай бұрын

@BikkeBane I mean, I'm just going to say, when the difference in payout is $450,000, I'd rather win by being considered toned down and "bland", than lose by being people's entertainment monkey and leaning into it.

@handsoaphandsoap

8 ай бұрын

@@SpanishFly120 Yeah, which is my point exactly. By having the non-sequestered jury, you create a meta where being boring is the optimal strategy which is counter-intuitive to the producer's goal of making a compelling piece of entertainment.

@marklisowski6549

8 ай бұрын

Also, what works against Danielle with her loss was she herself noted that she was a fan on the show heading into the season

@SpanishFly120

8 ай бұрын

@marklisowski6549 That also kind of strengthens my point too, because if she was a fan, she especially should've known the Jury would likely be watching.

Rachel Reily is a bad winner saved by production forcing Porsche to open pandoras box and allowing players to pick pairs and then giving her and Jordan the same comp she had already won against the entire cast.

@CommanderNam

11 күн бұрын

Rachel wins even without pandora’s box

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

11 күн бұрын

@@CommanderNam easy to say but without Jordan, She doesn’t have that safety net and there’s also just the general chance that Shelly wins any of the comps Rachel needed Also reusing the comp at all is enough for me to call production on it, there is 0 shot the producers weren’t manipulating shit

Good video! I agree with everything you've included. A big one I have that I think is inevitable, and people surely don't want to hear is that they are eventually going to remove the feeds and it is primarily going to be the fault of the people watching the show. While we'd like to believe that all fans who watch Big Brother are on the level of a Peridiam or Taran Armstrong who are focused on the strategic gameplay, and treat things in a relatively impartial and mature manner, the fact is that the show has as a large percentage of its audience voyeurs, people who get off on watching other people and even worse people who get off on trying to destroy the lives of the houseguests for even the most incidental transgression. Before the season even started I was seeing horrific things on Twitter about false accusations people were trying to build up for Red and Izzy to get them kicked off the show and have their life destroyed. I have often in the past seen doctored footage from the feeds that was used to try and destroy the lives of the houseguests. Fans from back around BB13 will recall that there were fans who were threatening to kill Shelly's daughter simply because Shelly voted against Jeff. The amount of people who watch Big Brother and have this mentality is a lot larger than I think us other type of fans want to admit. I feel that it is already harming them from a cast standpoint and that there are former players who will probably never return because of it. It is eventually going to hit the point where CBS feels it isn't worth it and the feeds are removed. It already has happened in BB Canada.

@Maw0

8 ай бұрын

And then from there, Big Brother gets cancelled.

I think the big one is that if social media was as prevalent in the first dozen or so seasons of the show as it is today. a lot of fan favorites would have been largely taken to task by the fans. Janelle, Brittney, Danielle, Dick, Jeff, Howie, etc. wouldn't be as beloved as they've become. Granted, the shine has worn off of some of them since their seasons, but many of them never would have been placed on pedestals in the first place.

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

Yes, that goes for many. Even at the time all these players were polarizing, but social media would make everything much more fraught, as you see players being called racist or sexist or whatever else just on who they aren't in an alliance with or based on "vibes" rather than anything they've said or done. I can't imagine the reaction a player like Dan would get today.

@quickpstuts412

8 ай бұрын

So true!

7:20 idk maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I don't mind the pregaming with returning players. All they really do is decide who they're going to work with.. which is fine by me bc then they can jump right in when the season starts and not tiptoe around each other for 2 weeks either pretending there are no alliances or making up a new alliance name every day for whoever is in the room at the time. I mean on the challenge it's always the same people so there's tons of history and discussions outside of filming and it's never seemed to be a problem. If anything they'll just tell us whatever info we need to know in confessional.

Danielle was an early example jury management is critical for winning. Janelle’s only shot of winning was AS, but she was easily taken by Chilltown. The last two seasons her game was ruined by pre gaming. Though, S6 pre gamed before AS1 hence Nekomis not having connections. Agree group think is massive in newer seasons. The latest was good for flipping all over.

If we ever get another returnees season, I want a full villains season. I think everyone would play into it (like House of Villains) and would be more chaotic and focus less on "playing good"

@quiddity131

8 ай бұрын

I see no chance this ever happens. Many people watching the show already attack everything the HGs do and try to wreck their lives. Imagine how bad it would be for a season where the whole cast are villains. If anything villains are far harder to find these days because of this.

@youtubeSuckssNow

8 ай бұрын

​@@quiddity131if Cam weren't a ridiculously gross creepy person then sure he would be great to cheer for, but when you are that(honestly scary), then they shouldn't be rooted for.

@iLoveTheEighties80

8 ай бұрын

@@youtubeSuckssNowwhat did he do that was so gross and creepy? I did not watch the live feeds.

@Shawnchapp

7 ай бұрын

@@youtubeSuckssNow What did he do?

My own hot takes here goes: 1) If you watch live feeds every day you WILL hate everyone. OK this isn't always true. It also depends on your tolerance for shenanigans. Even the most beloved characters do interesting things like say... Taylor and Monte. (most people don't actually care about this but just saying) If you prefer to just irrationally love people, stick to the episodes. 2) The Final 5 to Final 3 will be the most boring weeks of the season, in Survivor you would never skip these episodes. 3) Big Brother has become more like WWE Wrestling every season, you will have to accept it or stop watching, people will get battlebacked in now and even 12-0 votes aren't respected or safe. 4) Big Brother is basically a mans game now with a +10 male to female season win ratio, if feminism is a big deal to you, this show will piss you off 5) People aren't as racist or sexist as the internet says and nearly everything is blown so far out of proportion so we are being farmed for ratings and social media engagement and CBS is fine with it.

@quiddity131

8 ай бұрын

All great points. On number 2 in particular, I tend to almost always enjoy the earlier part of the season more than the later. On number 1 and number 5, I think we will eventually see CBS remove the feeds due to the hate that viewers spew towards the HGs.

@kengeorgejones6855

8 ай бұрын

I think if you watch live feeds you can be frustrated or disappointed in even your favorite player, but they have to cross a certain level to become truly sick of them. It also depends on how much time you spend - sometimes just reading recaps and checking on certain moments is a better idea. I do agree that there's a certain point in the season, namely the last two or three weeks, where you're going to start seeing more and more of the worst in even your favorites. If you aren't prepared for that then don't watch. I remember Dan kind of going nuts at the end of BB14, but I still enjoyed watching him...just glad the season was almost over.

The story about Brendon and Britney re-recording their conversation makes me less convinced in the idea that Brit had production immunity this week. Asking them to re-record the convo sounds more like "you can nom her, just keep the suspense for TV".

Thank you so much for this!!! 🙏

I’m gonna bring my reality tv fandom experiences here and say this: RuPaul’s Drag Race recently had an all winners season, and leading up to it the fans and former winners started talking about the potential of it a lot. I’ve seen it before, people talking makes a big difference.

I think that with the push back from the fans, BB isn’t going to do a returnees season for a little bit.

these are legit the coolest takes ever

i’m glad you brought up Danielle losing BB3. as much as i think she deserved the win, in the case of Lisa vs Danielle, there was absolutely no way Danielle was winning no matter what, sequestered jury or not

One for me is Britney should have kept Rachel and Brendan safe on her HOH week that evicted Rachel. All she should have said to the brigade brigading her on backdooring them, is that she believes Rachel trusts her enough and that she’s her only ally. Makes sense to protect them because they’re the biggest challenge threats and they only trusted her at that point, the brigade still has to deal with both of them, Britney stays neutral during the power struggle, and likely has a better chance at the brigade falling before they cornered her in the final 4.

Lisa wins, I have been saying this! But thank you for recognizing

I’m still mad about that guinea pig question to this day. What a joke lol

You're a brave man, Peridiam 😂😅 loved the video!

@realitierney

8 ай бұрын

So true about the pre-gaming on All-Stars 1, it was strong. You just never hear about it.

The intros always slap!

The fact that Christmas won that hoh against Davonne without even answering a single question correct smh. I turned off my tv instantly.

Ok Peridiam, I rarely comment but this topic is perfect. I've had this thought for a while, that I think the fanbase needs to accept. In my opinion, the beauty of BB (and Survivor) is that there's always a possibility that the worst outcome could occur, or the best, or something in between. I think the fanbase gets way too disappointed when there's a shitty DE (and fair enough), but imo you appreciate the good ones more BECAUSE there was a chance that it wouldn't happen. The best seasons play out like they were scripted, but the fun of the show for me is that there's a CHANCE your least fav player can win hoh and won't see justice. It feels so real in a way, so I always love it more when an outcome I desire occurs. I can't word that well at all, but hopefully I got my point across haha

Was this made before or after that article yesterday where Julie Chen Moonves teased a “Legends” season?

Harsh Reality: If they dont change up the style of competitions (which most are physical) and add more analytical and trivia they will not have as many strategic/non physical competitors making it far and winning. So many times the athletes stick together as an alliance and then win everything, and it is uneventful

Well said

The 4th unfortunate truth is one that can be pretty transparent at times, and not just on American Big Brother. The Israeli version of Survivor is FULL of production interventions that really cheapen the game, I gave up in the middle of BB Canada 1 when it became clear how rigged it is for Gary, and there’s also Australian Survivor’s production’s sorry attempts to save the AK-Brooke-Shonee trio with last minute twists (after having saved Shonee with another such twist early in the game).

A few things, P: First, I've been thinking about the rumored all winners short season that may or may not be happening, and the first thing that entered my head was that they need to do something to counteract the pregaming that utterly RUINED BB22. One thing I thought of was to make everyone play in unlikely pairs at first. Either CBS could do some digging as to who might be working with whom when they enter the house, or they could just use their best judgement (ehhhhh). But either way, they should match everyone with someone they were unlikely to have pregamed with, like a Cody-Lisa pair, Josh-Jordan, Drew-Nicole, etc. Second, to me, the most unfortunate truth in BB is that the jury is always bitter and the person who deserves to win often does not. Otherwise, Dan and Paul would each have two wins by now. The other unfortunate truth is that Kaysar, as much as we absolutely love him, just isn't that great at this game. Lastly, it's at least POSSIBLE that April votes for Janelle over Ivette, even if Janelle won the final HOH. But, it's also possible that James votes for Ivette, because you know, James be James....

I have a video idea: I think it'd be interesting to explore if the outcome of any BB seasons would be different if they'd had a bigger or a smaller jury. Would Dan have won BB 14 if the jury had been 9 people instead of 7? Or would Paul have won BB 18 or 19 if those seasons had 7-person juries instead of 9? My guess is that I don't think it would change the outcome of the majority of seasons, but it might have an impact on some of those seasons with close votes.

@ameliabalch

8 ай бұрын

paul definitely wins 18 with a 7 person jury. he was leading 4-3 right before zakiyah and da'vonne's votes (first two jurors). he also wins bb19 bc he was leading 4-2 at the 6th juror. take out elena and cody, he wins before marks vote is even read. also, I'm gonna be honest, i don''t even think its fair cody was on the jury. he was literally one of the first boots, and i personally hate when first couple week boots get to re-enter.

@ameliabalch

8 ай бұрын

and not to mention, even with the battle back he doesn't make it to jury without the den of temptation because he 100% gets evicted over jess the week she uses the halting hex. not that this changes much, i just think this adds to why it was so weird he was even on the jury

Lolololol!!!!! Loved this.

I remember that episode where Brandon was HoH. He spends the whole episode knocking Brittney and telling everyone he was putting her up. Their conversation alluding to it. When he didnt put her up I remember being extremely confused.

I can’t even watch the show anymore cause it’s just constant bullying

You said “the producers rig it” and Grodner just heard “rig it.”

if we don't get an all winner season/legends season...I think I saw on reddit someone saying they should do another couple season for the people that got married after Big Brother like Brendon and Rachel, Jess & Cody, Victor & Nicole. I think it wouldn't be bad to have another seasons twist like BB9

@Wehndigo

8 ай бұрын

at the very least like a duos twist with memorable duos in the house

@google.imagies.songGuy

8 ай бұрын

cody and jessica said they’re not playing anymore because of what the experienced in the BB house

Was able to swallow the first four pills, but that fifth one keeps coming back up

11:24 I think it’s easier for editing purposes to jet it vague so that whatever happens happens

I grew up watching BB but the unfortunate truth is that the game is broken and I don't know if production/writers care enough to fix it.

Pre-gaming is absolutely unavoidable in my opinion, and it definitely isn't just limited to Big Brother, as you mentioned in your video a lot of the Survivor season are guilty of it as well, so in that sense I don't think the pre-gaming in itself was what was so bad about that season. In Survivor and BB All Stars, I think the playerbase were a lot more cutthroat and independent, and overall at the end of the day were playing for self, and not just going along with every single decision with zero pushback (barring maybe Survivor All-Stars), so those seasons were filled with a lot of dynamic game-play and players who were invested and the seasons are looked at pretty well. BB All-Stars II on the other hand, I have no clue what the hell happened but it seemed most of the cast were way too comfortable, just completely unwilling to go out of their comfort zone, when you take that and combine it with what I call the "BB16 Meta" and the modern Big Brother playstyle, you get what we saw that season.

@tj9944

7 ай бұрын

I was typing out this whole thing halfway thru the video, and then you literally just said in the video what I was typing OOPS. Never mind you got it

Ya and how do they get themselves to commentate their gameplay during a challenge like they are calling it live lol

Danielle will always be a big brother pioneer... If she were to get one more shot, I believe it will be one of those Oh Snap moments. Plus, it's a classic case of bitter jury rather than strategic game merit.

I remember watching BB3 when I was a kid thinking Danielle had no chance to win in the final 3, both Jason and Lisa were more well liked than Danielle and Danielle backstabbed a lot of people. She played the best strategic game, but the best player doesn't always win. I don't think being sequestered would have mattered much.

Yo perdiam BBreindeers games has some absolute legends on it

Hey just to let you know as a watcher from across the pond Uk Survivor came out its not as nearly as good as USA survivor but is enjoyable.

In the earlier days of BB, I don’t recall anyone telling anyone that they were putting them up unless maybe telling someone they were a pawn?Every year,this game becomes more and more predictable.Unanimous voting,obvious nominations,making this game,that used to be interesting,a bore,and I don’t know if it could ever recover.

To be fair. I don't want to see anyone return right now. Cast new players and hopefully we can have some new legends.

James and April have both confirmed on evel dick’s bb6 reunion that they would’ve voted for Janelle if she had won the final hoh and evicted Maggie. April said her fight with ivette changed her perspective on ivette and james said his friendship with ivette was mostly strategic. Its extremely funny to me how badly ivette lost due to just being an asshole.

There are enough people who haven't had a second chance to return to the game who could be players many people would want back. They wouldn't have to resort to picking Raven, or Nick Macarone.The only player I think they'd cast who isn't on very many fan's returnee list is Holly from Season 21.

I agree that pregaming is impossible to avoid in returnee seasons. It's one of the reasons I don't need them, to be honest. I think what helped BB7 was some of those plans were leaked and you had players like the BB6 group scrambling at the start of the season to deal with the new info. The worst parts of the season, like Boogika, were pregaming that never went away. I haven't watched BB22, so I can't speak on the effects of pregaming, but from what I've heard/read, the problem was more the people who were brought back, their state of mind, that some of them already sucked anyway, etc.

@brianregan5933

8 ай бұрын

BB22 just plays out in the worst way possible with its comps. There's so many points in the first half where the person in second place winning HOH would have shaken up the game SO much, but literally one alliance wins every HOH. Its infuriating. And that alliance was a pre game alliance that was pretty fake for like five weeks. But because they kept winning so much it became real-ish. And yeah, you're not wrong. A lot of these people came to the house at a pretty stressful time, and you could tell none of them were having any fun

I accept the truth of production interference. Doesn't mean I won't complain about it everytime

For BB6, I think the moment where Janelle was not winning is Howie’s HOH leading to Sarah’s eviction. And then if everything is the same, would Sarah have outlasted Jennifer in the Pressure Cooker? Likely not, so we the jury phase would have been similar but with a non-friendship jury majority. There is debate around April’s vote has Janelle evicted Maggie. I think there was still a chance, but April’s connection to Jennifer makes it unlikely.

Danielle Reyes is my favorite contestant of all time. But I have a theory of why Danielle loses BB3. People forget how Roddy was influential over a lot of People of the Jury - Amy, Gerry, Josh, Chiara and even Marcellas from a certain extent... People forget that the first aliance Roddy did in the game was with Lori. It is almost poetic. You take the Devil out of the game, but he takes the game out of you.

As far as season 3 : you don't know what Danielle would say in her Good bye messages, the could be the difference for all we know 😊

to piggyback off of the janelle one, another sad reality is that we’ll never get to see her win big brother 😭😂lol i don’t think she’ll ever play again but even if she does she’ll never win bc she’s gonna be the first target for the house simply bc it’s janelle (bb14 & bb22)

@nstemania

2 ай бұрын

the only way she makes it past the first few weeks is if there’s a handful of old schoolers and not just like 2

I think the rule of not telling people they’re putting them up is still in place. During Cameron’s second HOH this season, even though he was blindsiding Felicia and Izzy, he never told Blue and Jag explicitly that they were going up, even though that’s what he wanted them and everyone else to believe, he just alluded to it

I thought I saw April say somewhere that if she won final hoh and cut maggie she would’ve voted for her over ivette. Janelle and April got really close from the final 4 onward

Chiara is definitely not a locked Lisa vote, she was closer with Danielle in the house and she mostly voted Lisa because Roddy wanted to Also April confirmed she votes Janelle against Ivette

Just got to work but Peridiam comes first…

13:20 game over😅

Why would anyone even want an all-winner season? Big Brother has less than a handful of winners I'd want to see on TV again, but the vast majority of them had the charisma of blob fish

BB Fans are terrified to talk about these things

This isn't really a fact, moreso just my opinion, but my Unfortunate "Truth" with Big Brother is that BB is not a very good game overall with some bad moments mixed in it. I would actually say it's the opposite. BB is a very bad game overall with some good moments mixed in it. In otherwords, I say Big Brother creates more harm than good.

Would Will have lost BB2 if the jury had been sequestered?

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

7 ай бұрын

Probably not, Nicole was very disliked with Monica describing her as holier than thou I think he wins albeit with maybe different margins

@olivermensinger

6 ай бұрын

Next to Monica? Yes. Nicole? Don't think so.

Pregaming isnt the problem it's the casting

If your a Competition Beast your a top tier player

About the janelle one, April said she would have voted for janelle, she wins 4-3

@markjackson6431

8 ай бұрын

when exactly did she say that? if she said immediately after the game ended the you can 100% believe it. but if she said it years later it’s harder to believe that. because she would’ve seen multiple seasons of Janelle and she would know how popular she would end becoming. remember when they use to poll the jury at the Survivor reunion and if the runner up brought someone else would they have won. almost always it’s like yeah they would’ve. but in reality they wouldn’t have….because if the runner up was a fan favorite ofc the jury would appease the fans. ex: them saying if Coach brought Albert and Cowboy to the end, Coach would win. Coach even said shortly after the season he aired he wouldn’t have won. the only he would’ve won (if he didn’t still own his game) was against Edna and Cochran. but he said the tribe knew better to let them get that far.

@Ajpowers02

8 ай бұрын

@@markjackson6431 she said she would have bc she was mad at Ivette for the fight they just had

@markjackson6431

8 ай бұрын

@@Ajpowers02 that doesn’t answer answer my question on when she said it. she could’ve said this months, years later and is bringing up a fight as justification.

@Ajpowers02

8 ай бұрын

@@markjackson6431 that idk

@pinglewingle1304

7 ай бұрын

​@@markjackson6431I just finished rewatching season 6 2 days ago. April said it in the house shortly before finale night.

why are so many in bb3 even voting? is this survivor: edge of extinction?

@olivermensinger6022

8 ай бұрын

For BB2 and 3, there was no pre-jury phase. Everyone made jury or final 2 (minus Justin). That changed with 4.

Here’s another unfortunate truth that many seem to not accept, Da’Vonne is NOT as good as she’s claimed to be. She’s egotistical, transphobic, and whiny. She plays the victim whenever something doesn’t go her way, and/or when she’s confronted for her attitude. The only time I ever felt bad for her was when Frank got inappropriate in bb18. Had to let this out after that last clip in your video.

@quickpstuts412

8 ай бұрын

Davonne was great at figuring things out but she didn't know what to do with the information. She panicked and opened up mouth too quickly instead of letting things play out. She is entertaining, but she's not great at BB. She played poorly each time.

@Ori_Kohav

8 ай бұрын

@@quickpstuts412 I didn’t find her entertaining in the slightest. Annoyingly overrated

The hardest pill to swallow is that the show will never be a good piece of television again

@quickpstuts412

8 ай бұрын

Yep and every year I keep hoping this will be the year it changes.....but nope.

Yep you’re right I don’t like this video. Lol it sucks to hear. But I am always a big fan of the truth.😊

Bitter pill to swallow, Cirie Fields is not a good big brother player.

Owch

The truth about Janelle isn’t unfortunate to me, because her arrogance in bb22 really rubbed me the wrong way. So full of herself, it’s sickening. She showed that in bb14 as well, which partially played into her eviction.

The first one is really harsh, but it NEEDED to be said.

Peridiam only makes negative videos about Big Brother now....and fanboys over Survivor. Survivor legend Cirie said herself last night that BB was the tougher game.

@markjackson6431

8 ай бұрын

it’s a tougher game because it’s more comp heavy. you have to win comps to win the game. that’s not Cirie’s strong suit so it’s harder for her to win. Hayden and Caleb (both comp beasts) faired better on BB than Survivor because of their athletic ability. they are half of the social player Cirie is.

@torockchick

7 ай бұрын

I agree BB is a much more harder game than Survivor, because you have to have BOTH comp and social strategy. You can be great at comps, but if you don't have a good social strategy, you can be voted out early and vice versa. Plus Survivor can be tough too in the aspect that you're not eating as often as you are on BB. You're also at the mercy of the elements if you don't have fire or an adequate shelter.

@torockchick

7 ай бұрын

Well I think Survivor is just as comp heavy as well considering you've got the elements and hunger to deal with. If you don't win comps, then you're losing out of food and shelter rewards as well as immunity. If you're not eating properly like you would on BB, then you're not performing at your best during challenges, or your possibly freezing while back at camp.

@markjackson6431

7 ай бұрын

@@torockchick how many people have won Survivor without winning an individual comp? probably 10ish winners. and tons of players have performed well without said challenges. how many players have won Big Brother without winning a comp besides Doctor Will? don’t worry i’ll wait

You should tell the truth about Taylor and Cirie next time.

BB22 was great if u were rooting for cody/enzo the whole time. which I was

@4eversteena

8 ай бұрын

Just Enzo but I feel you

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The biggest red flag of the producers rigging the game is the season Taylor won. She was dead f7 then suddenly the producers bring her and Michael into a 2+ hour dr room session, and boom everyone is on her side. Turner literally threw his game away for her. It made no sense, kinda ruined any hope bb had for being good again.

@AliFrankTheTank

8 ай бұрын

lmaooo even as a “non Taylor fan” that season had ZERO to do with rigging

@olivermensinger6022

8 ай бұрын

Uh…what…

@Captain_Subpar

8 ай бұрын

Nah, the biggest red flag is anyone who says that Taylor's win was rigged. We get it. You don't like seeing black women succeed. That says a lot more about you than anything.

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf

7 ай бұрын

“Dead final 7” You mean the week fucking Terrance left? I don’t know why the idea of a players like Taylor being able to win is, the same thing happened with people downplaying Kaycee and Nicole F.s games It’s all misogyny and racism and you need to check yourselves out

Y’all gotta stop wit the Danielle stuff lol… Lisa just played a lower/better game, she had way more friends in jury. & Pre gaming works on shows like The Challenge but when its a Vote elim. game, it’s crappy asf.

I watched the first episode of bb this year & never watched a single second of the season. The people they recruited just didn’t look fun to watch, it also started like 40 days later than it should’ve. The last 2 seasons were better and more memorable

I think BBCAN rigs the competitions, they almost literally gave Vivek the HOH this season