If anyone is wondering why Douman didn't make the list, it's due to his Alter Ego class holding him back. This is especially the case with how prevalent mixed class nodes are.

@monsieurromanbedlam5101

Жыл бұрын

He can loop via NP Battery skills reliably tho

@Theone_who_asked

Жыл бұрын

​@@monsieurromanbedlam5101 yes, ONCE

@Therealkingk909

5 ай бұрын

@@Theone_who_askedokay you could also easily run a k scope and a 2nd append. You could also run double Douman plus another chaotic evil dps. That way you have 3-4 AOEs between the Douman’s plus a gassed up other dps, a field full of stars and everyone has 200 crit damage so every card is viable

I like that you included gameplay this time, but it does block the stats when you're explaining your case for each servant. Maybe a transition between gameplay and when you wanna focus on explaining stats? Good video nonetheless

@Ohimeshinso

2 жыл бұрын

He said "No" to transitions, like, literally a video or two ago XD

@ethanluke5130

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ohimeshinso ah that's my bad then lol. I would still like to follow his explanations though

When I pulled Skadi when she first released on NA, I also got Berserkerlot from the multiroll. They became my go-to 3 turn clear team. Even at NP1 he's still worth it, especially if you know there's a boss with at the third section. Having his only Quick card or two Buster cards melts those guys.

@milkshrekpasta

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah his buffs are perfect

@YugiSannin92

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say perfect, I got him at np1 too and a didn't have MLB kscope so it was rough, I needed him at lvl 100 + x2 skadi + summer ishtar (1 skill lvl 10) + little Halloween devil (because I don't have MLB sapphire) to consistently loop with him, but it's POSSIBLE

@general_silver3050

2 жыл бұрын

I got a Berserkalot and Skadi on the same Multi

top 5 Arts Looper: Space Ishtar top 5 Quick Looper: Space Ishtar top 5 Buster Looper: Space Ishtar

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

No, Space Ishtar is *GARBAGE* as a Quick Looper *ESPECIALLY* at NP 1.

@pablobg3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZTL Just np3-5 and MLB Kscope with 2ble skadi and waver for omnifarm i had to give dantes a rest. And not even Castoria out. Its gonna be a Sp.Ishtar supremacy throughh all sup meta Skadi->Castoria->Vitch/Oberon. And i luv it

@togachan5081

2 жыл бұрын

Space Ishtar is very good when Arts and Buster farming, but quick? Ehhh no.

@pablobg3022

2 жыл бұрын

@@togachan5081 i omnifarm with space ishtar Quick. MLB Kscope and the stuff. My Dantes Np2 is faster and doesnt need waver. But he cant farm 1 enemy waves 1/1/3. Ishtar can OMNIfarm. Slow? Yes. But can omni as a 50%np battery quick? Yes xD. Easy as that.

Great video! I enjoyed the gameplay shown with each servant you presented.

Pretty cool that you're doing these at NP1,props for that!

Btw, about frankenstein, if you bring Santa Karna, shouldn't you be able to loop with her without bothering with the stun? Santa Karna gives a 20% NP charge and debuff immunity for 3 times, 3 turns. So if you have a kaleido, you can just use Santa Karna on turn 1 to fill her bar and give debuff immunity, and then, double skadi your way to the third node

Gameplay in the video is pretty nice. gives me something pretty to watch while u break it down👌👌

Drinking game "Take a sip everytime ZTL says brute force" 💀💀

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/p4iimNKBe7nWfsY.html

I liked the gameplay while you are explaining the servants

good stuff like always

5:17 Damn, those Parvati damage numbers look really good ngl

Np4 Berserkerlot. Max Foued, max grailed. i know what I want. God, not since I pulled Waver have I had such an quality of life buff for this game.

@Ravi9A

2 жыл бұрын

Zerkerlot got a buff?

Also, I’ve never had problems with refund at NP1 with Dantes. I did fully grail him and I almost have him max foued but he has yet to fail me

@dimensionvisitor7689

2 жыл бұрын

I usually have 1 or 2 percent np short when I'm farming assassin or berserker with dante

I like these discussions but i preffer the tier list versions so we get a bigger picture and other good servants dont get cut out (like squirtoria and S. Ana on the arts st vid)

Good list since i couldnt get Skadi last year i lost some interest on the quicks servants in my chaldea, except for the ones that are so op that with just one skadi they can work well, so now that i finally got my own skadi am starting to take more interest in what i got for other options, since right now am mainly using only space Ishtar and berserker Lancelot which thank God i have them at np3 and its true most of the quick loopers only either work at np2 or higher or if you put the investment on using grails and fous to increase the atk enough to make them work as if they were np2 or if you have a MLB kaleido, at least that the idea i have from what my two friends that had been using the skadi system since last year had told me, since their main loopers are at np1 they always are telling me how they had to grail them plus using an extra charger, also they dont have kaleidos so they need to work with 50% charging CEs too.

I have Dantes at NP1 and was unsure how good he is at NP1, and now I feel better, even with my NP3 Lolivinci and SpIshtar.

Parvati's no gain event at np1 is pretty good tho I won't get the full np refund

A bit random but DW, we demand a QUICK Caster!

as a person with skadi and np3 max fou grailed lvl 100 parvati, its safe to say she pretty much cleans everything in battlefield.

I would probably put Valkyrie above Atalanta, though I guess it makes sense to vary between classes. Also heard Voyager had a hard time looping well, but that one's hearsay on my part, don't have him (nor Skadi) on JP to check. It truly is insane how hard they crippled the AoE Quick Servants released post-Skadi (with only Okita Alter finally breaking that mold) when you see how insane they made Arts units after Castoria.

I think Douman should ate least be mentioned here. His class limits which quests he can go to and his looping potential is mostly thanks to his insane battery, but he's still pretty good.

I'm Kind of surprised valkyrie didn't get an honorable mention considering she's just as good at quick looping as atalanta and berserker lancelot

Santa Karna has 3 times debuff immunity on his 20% battery for Fran (yeah its inside of the Castoria Era but still)

@desolatorstorm142

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure this is about farming.

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Consider that this is solely with double Skadi though, just like the arts video was with double castoria.

I got extremely lucky to have NP5 Parvati and Skadi as a f2p. I probably will grail Parvati if I will have some qp left after upgrading Super Orion skills

I don't have my own Skadi, but I find Okita Alter works pretty well against Lancers with Da Vinci and a borrowed Skadi, she's definitely one of my go-to loopers. I really wish they'd release a new Quick support though, something at the same level of Koyanskaya for Busters: I feel they need a new supporter, otherwise they're too behind compared to the other colors.

@genkuuuu

2 жыл бұрын

I thought i was the only one who pairs them

Daily sniff of ZTL a day keeps the gacha salt away

I got lucky to get Skadi, but now I have nowhere near enough mats to actually max out her skills lmao. So quick looping is still a ways away for me

if you have nightingale/or bb frankenstien can loop very consistently but it requires plug suit. her turn 2 damage is about on par with lancelot thanks to her absurd multipliers(which are balanced around the stun but not an issue with targetable debuff immunity) anyways her turn 3 damage is where she just flat out passes lancelot by alot so if there's a node with a bing chungo at the end and you don't wanna deal with card rng please consider your chaldeas cutest bride

About the new format i think i liked the old one having the video over the servants stats and skill doesnt look good to me.

i love my Voyager (NP3), but I don't have a Skadi to make it loop well, for now I'm using a single skadi (support), Waver and Reines, but I think because of that, it ends up missing a little damage for it, there in the time that Skadi doesn't back in NA, I'll leave it at lvl 100 and add it to leave 2K fou

Maybe make the gameplay footage screen smaller and stick it in the top left corner so it's out of the way of the rest of the content? Those interested in it can still look up to watch it if they want, that way. I mention it because you were gesturing at skills, stats, and damage several times with your cursor, but I couldn't see what you were getting at since the gameplay footage screen was blocking the view more often than not.

The gameplay video was blocking the stats so it was a bit inconvenient but the video was still good

Arts bb can apply debuff immunity to fran zerker

me: If Dantes is not on this list then I'm going to cry also me: omg Dantes at first I would never have seen that coming wow

i got Dantes at np2 and grailed. he's insane

I've got NP2 Skadi, NP2 Atalante, NP2 Parvati and NP1 Lancelot. Feelsbad for Lancelot

I like gameplay, But there were times that I couldn’t see the stats and servant details you were referencing. If u want to show gameplay, id recommend scrolling down enough so we can see what you are talking about or just show gameplay at the end of each servant overview, when you aren’t referencing anything and just making your final points. I like seeing some gameplay, but not if it makes it so I can’t see what you are referring to.

what are people doing to get lancelot to hit only 15k? even at level 80 and np1 he was always hitting atleast 20k on every enemy

First to answer your question. I listen to these videos while wasting daily ap so I don’t see the gameplay. And I kinda agree with this list. Dantès is hands down the best there’s no debate he was the first gssr I got a week before skaid release (then wasted 550 sq no skadi but got her a few weeks ago) and whenever I see a node with multi class enemies or anyone above 40k hp I pick him. Only bad thing about him is he can loop high berserker waves but can’t defeat them. I have an np 2 parvati but like Valkyrie more so use her even though np1 but grailed. Just realized I dont have many quick loopers… and I haven’t tried space ishtar.

@MageOfLuck

2 жыл бұрын

Words of the wise do not try this with space Ishtar, you will regret it quite a lot. Yeah I don’t have many quick np loopers but damn is she just horrible at it, maybe with Nero bride it’s possible but it’s better to just arts looping at that point if you have tamamo. Parvati np4 has been a real trooper for me so I’ve just stuck with her the moment I got skadi, since Achilles is also shit though he does good damage.

@gamerwim9095

2 жыл бұрын

@@MageOfLuck yeah I’m going to wait for arts meta to use space Ishtar. Just threw few ten summons because I heard shes good. Plus wouldn’t wanna get bond ten before she becomes meta (sq farming)

@MageOfLuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamerwim9095 I rolled because I thought it would be funny, and it was until I almost didn’t get skadi. I’m probably going to do the same thing as you with splishtar since she is so good with castoria. I feel bad putting her in a backlog like I did my summer musashi, but I don’t really have a way to use them efficiently for now. Besides I hate wasting bond points it’s just so sad to see…

Now I kinda wish I had Lancelot beserker at higher np lvl

The one thing I get from this is that Skadi need to get an NP Gain Buff on either her S1 or 3 since looking at how many Quick Loopers we have that can actually farm efficiently is just not something F2P can afford

my girl Atalanta need's her second skill buffed, bad, give her a NP charge at least

Me have atalante, dante and parvati on my alt acc but skadi did not come home. *Sad ice cream noise*

@Style_eric

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you,got a LOT of quick servants perfect for skadi,but not she 😔

Well , I only play NA, and I'm glad to hear there is 3 more 5 star aoe quick servants to look forward to. I checked the times on these servants for NA (predicted release based on 2 year diff): 1.) Okita Alter Summer - Jan 2023 2.) Caren(Amor) - Feb 2023 3.) Voyager - May 2022 I am looking forward to adding them to my roster.

@lynxace1602

2 жыл бұрын

Okita Summer and Dantes are able to loop using 6 CE of your choice (yes, 0 start gauge) in JP thanks to Oberon (Okita Summer) and 6 enemies waves (Dantes), so if you really want an SSR looper (even though Atalanta and Parvati get the job done easily), go for them. Voyager is good too, I personally don't recommend Caren unless you want her

Me who is actually waiting for st looping tierlist

I’m in desperate need of Skadi since I’ve got some of these boy-o’s

@TranJack123

2 жыл бұрын

With my skadi and only buster aoe sabers, I feel like a drowning man seeing a person die of dehydration.

NP5 Parvati and NP5 berserker Lancelot is all i need for quick farming in NA, thank you. I also have Dantes, but he is pretty useless compered to my Parvati and Lancelot because he's only NP1.

@ianL-S

2 жыл бұрын

Hell if you're farming embers you can still use Parvati from my experience on the saber node

Rip my np 1 Atalanta... I wish she got a buff and I could use her in mid game content outside of her one turn quick buff with plugsuit...

Cries in no zerkerlot

Bring BB to be able to 3 turn loop with Frankenstein

Whats the point if having stats if the video blocks its all. This an L

11:18 did you forget about rulers existence?

My Parvati is NP4 and I didn't even tried to get one copy But she's gooood Only thing I'm missing to make her absolutely amazing is Skadi cause she dodged me again

It's kinda funny that we got two years of Quick meta and we actually don't have that many options.

@Sierlea

2 жыл бұрын

Yea. There's a good number of options but a lot are weaker at it. Valks, Marie, OkitaAssassin, etc., they're there but less good at it. I guess Achilles is fairly nice.

I need a Quick looping servant for Sigurd

Wish Caren was out for NA.

me out here quick looping w spishtar

Shouldn't the fact that Lancelot can be used in every single stage help him make the list ? (except for the gimmick stages and the likes obviously) Parvati just has higher damage in comparison and can only be effective against two classes while Lancelot is effective against 12 classes (all except foreigner and Mash but she doesn't matter since we never fight her). Imo a higher damage number doesn't justify her being a better overall quick looper than him.

@amaridawkins64

Жыл бұрын

One turn np gain buff low dmg compared to scaling dmg and 3turn np gain buff also a battery.

@thegamerfe8751

Жыл бұрын

@@amaridawkins64 Both would still be able to do the same thing + the scaling damage won't mean crap if you're going against Sabers.

@ZuuZuu2

7 ай бұрын

He literally said why at the begining

I agree that np1 parvati is kinda rough but thanks to ooku banner I have her at np5 and she just blasts everything.

@Xernitory

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair though pretty much everyone here would blast everything at np5 though

@DarthVerde1611

2 жыл бұрын

I have her at np4, and even at np2 she was really solid

My Parvati is NP5. Nuff said.

have skadi, have np2 parvati, have np2 atalante... but where is my kscope?!?!?!?!?

@vennyfabg5583

2 жыл бұрын

Use imaginary element

@rafaelbastos8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@vennyfabg5583 Wave 1 - Just explode everything with Imaginary element Arash and 3rd skill + Waver charge Wave 2 - Imaginary Element Parvati + Waver buff + plugsuit 2nd Skadi and 1st skill Wave 3 - 3rd skill of both Skadis

Link for NP level damages please

Sir, You are one of my top 3 go to about fgo I have a question as new player: how can i Fer the count of monte cristo? He's My favorite character Thanks in advance.

@luxadia7310

2 жыл бұрын

He has a single banner in 2 years, either wait for it or hope to get lucky rolling the Gssr with him in it. (Most old servant rarely get banner anymore so he is really hard to get)

There's a craft you can equip on Frankenstein, 3 time debuff immunity

@e-duh3529

Жыл бұрын

You need kscope to quick loop

@M1chalShakesandFidget

10 ай бұрын

no u dont @@e-duh3529

@MadRaptorGaming

10 ай бұрын

@@e-duh3529 Atalanta and Fran can both loop without K-scope, though you do need Castoria as well.

Did you forget Achilles? he is quite easy to loop and he deal decent dmg.

dont forget how good dantes +3% is

I'm surprised Kiichi Hogen isn't part of the list, even in the honorable mention. She had pretty much everything she needs for looping.

@agearmaster1

2 жыл бұрын

She's the only quick ass looper right?

@Urd-Vidan

2 жыл бұрын

@@agearmaster1 I don't get what you mean. What do you mean she's the only Quick looper?

@ghostrider4722

2 жыл бұрын

@@Urd-Vidan Assassin looper

@agearmaster1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Urd-Vidan assasin

@Urd-Vidan

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, I get it. Was severely confused by the Ass looper. XD

i actually think valkyrie is way better than parvati. brute force looping actually works on them specially with their skills where they got NP gain every turn depending on the skill level of course, the NP has sure hit as well. Works best at least at NP2.

@nathanc5108

2 жыл бұрын

I have a np 1 valkyrie with her and my scadi being a work in progress and she still loops ok it is a bit of a struggle without their skills maxed tho

@ashton101letsplays

2 жыл бұрын

Sure hit doesn't matter for farm and Parvati has the 10% np gain per turn by her NP effect. They're nearly exactly the same, Valkryie just has more hits on her NP which means more stars and overkill, but Par has a slightly higher attack stat. Parvati also has an NP gain buff on her first skill so she refunds more than Valk would as well

Where i can found that list?

Avenger damage multiplier🤦‍♂️

I know it’s probably coming but after Skadi I’m curious about the best single target quick servants cus I feel all the new servants are arts and buster (I got my boy NP4 zerkerlot for aoe)

@justsomedangerbigfootwithweb

2 жыл бұрын

Probably ascension 1 Kama

@Xernitory

2 жыл бұрын

probably just kama she’s absolutely insane

@emiliano3130

2 жыл бұрын

Taira is pretty good too

@Cav829

2 жыл бұрын

Van Gogh,, Kama, Melt, Taira, MHX Alter would be my top 5 in roughly that order off the top of my head. Van Gogh has slightly unseated Kama IMO as the best ST quick servant, but they're both at the tippy top of any tier list, so it is splitting hairs.

@MageOfLuck

2 жыл бұрын

When jack and her anti female damage has been forgotten…

I've been looking into quick farming lately because a friend of mine just started playing and got skadi, so i wanted to help him out by kind of figuring out which servents to go for in the future. Is Parvati THAT much better that the Valkyries? and if so why? i can't really figure it out

@ShiranuiLoki

2 жыл бұрын

NP Gain and NP damage. Parvati got higher NP Gain and higher NP damage when her NP is 2 or higher.

@d0nt_

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShiranuiLoki I've seen their abilities and numbers, unless i am missing something they should have very comparable damage, maybe parvati can do more damage on the third wave thanks to hes 2nd ability, while the valkyrie do more on the first 2 thanks to their 1st. As for np gain, it's true that parvati's is higher, while also having an ability to boost it on top, looking on the np refund calculator the Valkyries refund more thanks to their higher hit count on the np. that's why i'm confused on why parvati seems to always come on top.

@ShiranuiLoki

2 жыл бұрын

@@d0nt_ Base damage wise, parvati slightly higher. NP gain wise Parvati slightly higher. Passive skill wise divinity damage increase, Parvati slightly higher. Atk buff and quick buff compared to quick buff and np buff wise Parvati slightly higher with 30% quick × 50% atk compared to Val 30% qck x 20% np buff. NP damage mul is 600% same but! Parvati doesn't do insta-kill instead she gave NP charge to her and her teammate. You know what wrong with insta kill np? If triggr, you doesn't get the rest of the hits thus no np hits refund so that's random chances that you don't loop your NP.

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

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Thanks for the video!! Fortunately I have Dantes, but I have a question there's any command codes you can recommend for him ?

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Any of the ones that give him crit damage are always going to be good.

How about the buster version

loop go brrr

Blocking all of the stat & skill info with video takes away from what you're saying during the video.

Before I even start the video if he didn't put or mention Dantes in the video I'd be pissed. I'd be ok with him not putting him on the tier list but at least the honorable mentions.

@nameerav.g1395

2 жыл бұрын

Now that I finished watching THANK YOU THANK YOU...you put him on no. 1 yessss

@imsleepy6114

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@cashbag

2 жыл бұрын

@@nameerav.g1395 Why do you need approval from strangers on the internet

@nameerav.g1395

2 жыл бұрын

@@cashbag I don't. I was just saying what's on my mind lmao

@theplaguedoctor6271

10 ай бұрын

Nuh uh

Karen should not be on the list tbh. she relies on draining allies' gauge which means chances are she'll never be a 6 slot looper nor will she give you CE flexibility on your 2 skadis which can matter on events. I can make Parvati NP2 and Atalanta NP3 loop super easily on most nodes (including events) even if sometimes I need my Nero Bride to help out I got no Superscope, only basic scope, and I can make those two loop with Magus MC (or Combat Switch + Bride). yes, NP1 video and all that, but Parvati/Atalanta are spooker 4 stars, easy to get

@TheAnaz41745

2 жыл бұрын

Append skill exists, and you can bring a third charger support that can do team charge like Waver, Castoria and Oberon when Caren is using BG Even if her method is unorthodox, it still stands that she's the few Quick looper that can utilize 0 starting NP charge CE like Black Grail and still loop, which also makes her viable in events with Damage CEs while other servants need their Kaleidoscope

Sanzangs 3rd skill can fix frans issue not a hundred percent sure though

@AngraMainyu24

2 жыл бұрын

For looping 3 waves with Fran you want to plugsuit either BB of Nightingale.

@succcsroya1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@AngraMainyu24 thanks for the info

@aminebachir3394

2 жыл бұрын

@@succcsroya1776 Santa Karna has 20 battery with 3 times debuff immunity

@aminebachir3394

2 жыл бұрын

@@succcsroya1776 so next year you can use him with Kscope

gogogogogogogogogo where?

I have Chibitan on JP. I have Dantes on NA. There is no world where I would ever suggest to anyone that you use Dantes over Chibitan on JP. Chibitan has consistent damage over 3 waves and the ability to use CEs Dantes can't because he is restricted to a KScope. Dantes blows his load on wave 3. Dantes just isn't built for the current 90+ node structure on JP. That single reason alone is enough to put Chibitan over him. Broken record in these comments, and I don't know how many are taped, but you really should start evaluating SRs at NP2. Given relative cost, that is comparable to summoning an NP1.

no kiichi hogen, no valks, not even in honorable mention? smh my head

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Valks suck at NP1. Hogen is like arguable on the list

@patarcc4150

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZTL I just don't really see how Parv can be #5 on the list but the Valks are nowhere. Strictly from a looping perspective, there's almost nothing Parv can do that the Valks can't, and vice versa. The Valks trade slightly more consistent damage across turns for Parvati having slightly higher damage in a single turn, and I don't think that that tradeoff warrants the disparity in their placements here.

I wasted all my saveings (39 tic 500 sq) to get one skadi and only quick looper I have is np1 valkirye, dont get me wrong skadi still damn useful and I wont regret it but dont know what to do.. invest valkirye or wait wellfare mary popins (ı hear she cant loop) bart is another choice but his attack numbers look so dinky, Man this game is cruel sometimes, want to whale a little but my pride wont allow me DW still wont fixing fullscreen or add 4X speed button to game all its content about farming.

@liongson9431

2 жыл бұрын

Do u have nero bride? If so Valkyrie worth build

@maybebaby3193

2 жыл бұрын

@@liongson9431 Sadly no, have some &60 baterry CEs card shuffle mystic code and skadi.

@liongson9431

2 жыл бұрын

@@maybebaby3193 well thats hard ngl... Need one more battery like waver And talk about waver he free in april. So yeah up to u. Talk about free Achilles is free too and he great quick looper

@maybebaby3193

2 жыл бұрын

@@liongson9431 Waver is must.. but if he somehow spook me I get achilles for sure, thanks for the idea, I wanted drake for farming but skadi changed everyting 😅

Jaques has much better use in normal team , because of her extra damage against curse enemies, she has more steroids than Arjuna alter

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Jacques NP 1 with curse does 32,249 Arjuna Alter NP 1 with buster down does 37,376

@thenameis6151

2 жыл бұрын

Lol check back dude

My max grailed max gold fou'd NP2 Zerkerlot that can literally loop through some CQs.... Not even top 5?

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video and see what the rules and stipulations were for the Top 5?

Yo why isn’t Tristan on the list ?

@lsrrr3857

2 жыл бұрын

cuz he's not AOE

@danielak1666

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think he could loop that well

NP1 lvl 100 Lancelot does 94729 and NP1 lvl 100 Dantes does 100908. Damage calculated on third wave with all their buffs and Skaddi's buffs. The reason the damage is so comparable even when Dantes has an upgraded NP is because Lancelot is a berserker and gets that type advantage against everyone.

@aminebachir3394

2 жыл бұрын

And Lancelot doesn't have 3 turn NP gain up🐒

no valk? i would figure she helps alot.

@duyduong5489

2 жыл бұрын

her np has instant death so it would be hard to loop

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Her damage is atrocious at NP 1

@lsrrr3857

2 жыл бұрын

@@duyduong5489 That's not an issue for valk as her instant death is after damage

What about lancelot

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@renown35nuke70

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZTL I must have missed it

space ishtar?

@Talyrion

2 жыл бұрын

She's not that great as a Quick Looper. She *can* do it, but you really have to force it, while the others have a way easier time.

@AverageAwesomeDude

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t work to well for quick, not enough np generations or hits on her NP

@RaithSienar

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta have super scope on her and hit her with Paracelsus +NP gain as well cause I got her at NP2 and she can't fully 3 turn loop with quick.

@Cav829

2 жыл бұрын

On NA, she's a terrible Quick looper. On JP, I haven't used her, but on paper Mana loading should give her access to some better CEs. Asclepius can give her a 30% refund boost and 20% charge letting her use a 60% CE, The big problem with quick looping on JP is 90+ nodes are not kind to quick due to inconsistent refund, so battery-based servants are more ideal. So she has that going for her. I wouldn't want to tier her though without some more research. I think Jacque de Molay (unmentioned in the video) is in a better spot than her though because of how her battery is split, her skills lasting for 3 turns, and her snowballing quick damage. I'd have to play with the two though to know for sure.

@rafaelbastos8713

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cav829 So, i am currently using her with Arash Waver 1 and the refund kinda doesn't matter.

Buster looping

lancelot is op... hello ?

ZTL is daddy and all my homies hate anthony

The thumbnail video playing through the discussion was distracting and unnecessary, even outright covering up important info. Might want to rethink that.

Ngl this is an absolutely poorly-researched and somewhat biased video. NOT even a honorable mention to the GOAT Ashiya Douman while fkin Caren makes top 5 just screams "ME LIKE WAIFU !" for me. Also if you liked waifu why not lewd Hogen instead? She is a fkin F2P servant (literally cannot get more F2P than this) and can loop Riders quite reliably, after you got the append skill thing going. I think a faire list would be: Caren no. Just no... Atalanta at no 5 (I admit Im very based bout this one:)). Then Voyager at no 4 (as it should be). Parvati at no 3 (for having free ass NP battery built on her NP) and yes top 2 and 1 are indeed correct. Nothing to say bout Okita Summer and Dankest tbh. Im a big fan of both of them so honestly, cant agree more. THEN honorable mentions to Ashiya Douman and Hogen for being solid ass servants. Caren can get a honorable mention too BUT not above those 2 and def NOT in the top 5 imho.

@asheqabeer1798

2 жыл бұрын

Personally Id put Okita Alter over dantes since she can loop without Kscope

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

"Me like waifu" >has a dude at #1 >has Voyager on the list ok dude.

@jaytheghoul

2 жыл бұрын

Make your own top 5, stop seething so much

I would say for this vid, that it should have been np 3 for 4 stars and NP 1 or 2 for 5 stars. Or put them where they should be but add the stipulation where you need to be at with NP lvl wise to make them usable, such as how Dante is a great NP looper, but he honestly onlygets there at NP3 or up. But thats just my opinion.

@nathanc5108

2 жыл бұрын

He doesn't do that because most free to play players only have a np 1 copy of most servents with the occasional exception here and there

Putting Dantes above Chokitan when he can't even loop without Kscope is kinda dumb, not gonna lie.

@moonknight8572

2 жыл бұрын

He can loop with out the kscope do you even have him and skadi?

@yazeedallawanseh9934

2 жыл бұрын

lol every single one on the list can't 3t loop without kscope

@moonknight8572

2 жыл бұрын

@@yazeedallawanseh9934 I mean bring someone with a battery that’s it

@TheAnaz41745

2 жыл бұрын

@@yazeedallawanseh9934 Summer Okita Alter can use other CEs, even with BG if you use Plugsuit, which is why the guy said she should be above Dantes who either needs a Kaleidoscope and/or limited to 2004 MC kzread.info/dash/bejne/X5Wsr7ycXdXXYcY.html

@Cav829

2 жыл бұрын

@@yazeedallawanseh9934 This is a JP evaluation. On JP, Chibitan can loop with Black Grail thanks to 30% battery + Mana Loading enabling Waver + Double Skadi + Plugsuit, which gives her a huge leg up on Dantes. Dantes even on JP with Mana Loading requires 80% charge, so it knocks his requirements down to a normal KScope instead of a MLB one or a 60% charge CE with 20% charge from someone like Helena/Aclepius/Hogwarts Mystic Code. Or with double Skadi and Waver you can run Traces of Christmas or similar, but the damage is still going to be behind what Chibitan can do with BG. Additionally, Chibitan can deal with 90+ nodes like the Guda 5 event (a. 2-1-3 node) using options like double Oberon + Skadi/double Skadi + Oberon that Dantes can't. Chibitan also can deal with 6 CE lotto comps much easier due to not needing starting charge. w/ the double Skadi + Waver setup. I am a giant Dantes fan. Count of Monte Cristo is a favorite of mine. But there's no objective measure by which I could see putting Dantes above her outside of like... the fact she's a Saber so she can't loop Archer nodes which are more common than Moon Cancer nodes. Put it this way: if quick were in the same state as arts on JP, Chibitan would be the Space Ishtar of quick and everyone would have raced to NP2 her.

Valkyrie > Parvati

@ZTL

2 жыл бұрын

Mathematically incorrect.

@GrimmGB

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZTL mathematically correct: Their Quick buffs are the same, but while Parv has better base NP gain plus that 20-30% increase, Valk has 75% more hits per enemy, actually making refund similar if not even in Valk’s favor. Additionally, Parv only does more damage when her 2nd skill is up, so only for one wave (usually the 3rd). Valk gets a 3T 20-30% NP dmg buff, so in terms of consistency, she’s better. More hits + more dmg in w1+w2 also means more overkill hits and better star gen. Finally, Parv’s targetable battery is single-use, while Valk gets that 3T static refund. Parvati might be the better servant overall, but for farming/3T-looping, Valkyries should be more reliable (because of better W1+W2 performance) And subjectively the Valks are much cuter than Parvati with better designs and voice lines.

@NeinKyori

Жыл бұрын

@@GrimmGB Actually Par still edge out. Even if her atk buff is 1 turn, that's 50% buff is important to help her kill the final wave that Valk couldn't. Par also have 10% refund in her NP, making it effectively the same as Valk's max 3rd skill I speak from my own experience. 6/4/10 Valk in NA and 6/1/1 Par in JP, with the same Waver+Skadi+Para/Hans support.