Top 5 Quick Bans in OU History

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When a Pokemon becomes too over-centralizing, it is usually banned from a metagame. Some are banned way faster than others though. In this video, we explore the quickest banned mons in Smogon OU.
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - What is a Quick Ban?
3:49 - Number 5
6:47 - Number 4
8:57 - Number 3
11:29 - Number 2
14:05 - Number 1
16:57 - Outro
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  • @joaomacedo5849
    @joaomacedo5849 Жыл бұрын

    Flutter mane and houndstone were so ridiculous that despite being in OU for 3 days, they were still the most used mons of the entire month

  • @TheSteakJustice

    @TheSteakJustice

    Жыл бұрын

    Flutter Mane was like #1 but wasn't Houndstone somewhere in the lower 10-upper 20s?

  • @Iris_Descent

    @Iris_Descent

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it was Mane and Palafin instead. Which is still crazy, lol.

  • @StandardSkilledCamp

    @StandardSkilledCamp

    Жыл бұрын

    houndstone was 18th flutter mane was #1 tho

  • @kkrstudios

    @kkrstudios

    Жыл бұрын

    Houndstone was or is not ridiculous. He got banned because of its signature move Last Respect. They already stated that they debated over whether to ban just the move because no one can learn the move beside Houndstone. But once home and PLA mons hit the meta, it will be brought back as Basculegion can also learn the move. So most likely they will only ban the move instead of the pokemon

  • @MacZephyrZ

    @MacZephyrZ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kkrstudios Well if we're going to be splitting hairs its "Houndstone is rediculous, but only because of Last Respects". The move is a part of what makes a pokemon. Kygore wouldn't be the beast it is if it only learned Water Gun. I still agree that Last Respects, not Houndstone itself, should have been banned though.

  • @ctnc6059
    @ctnc6059 Жыл бұрын

    The quickest ban in UU, and probably in all of competitive Pokemon, was Sun/Moon Gyarados. When the month's usage stats revealed Gyarados and Mega Gyarados they'd drop to UU there was total chaos... for 6 Hours. Which wasn't even enough time for the tiers to get updated.

  • @nathanwaterser8218

    @nathanwaterser8218

    Жыл бұрын

    Manaphy in UU too I think I don't remember if it was 6 hours or 2 days but when it dropped to UU in gen7 it got immediately banned

  • @rozisroses1351

    @rozisroses1351

    Жыл бұрын

    slurpuff lasted 14 minutes in home NU last gen (it's technically cheating because slurpuff only dropped because belly drum was unreleased and then mid feburary home dropped but NU wasn't allowed to quickban it because alpha tiers can't ban anything)

  • @kerosblue5609

    @kerosblue5609

    Жыл бұрын

    Hoopa U lasted like 2

  • @abarette_

    @abarette_

    Жыл бұрын

    gee it's almost as if usage-based tiering is garbage

  • @flerpaderp4397

    @flerpaderp4397

    Жыл бұрын

    @@abarette_ What’s your suggestion for tiering then?

  • @FirstLastname604
    @FirstLastname604 Жыл бұрын

    I love how for Palafin, the OU community turned the superhero pokemon into their own nefarious supervillain, dubbing it "Nifalap" and celebrated it's departure

  • @ThePeasantRock16

    @ThePeasantRock16

    Жыл бұрын

    GEEEZ Maybe is because game freak give in every new gen like almost 70% of the new pokemon not only strong moves but also ridiculous stats? Like come on son

  • @ATK1734

    @ATK1734

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be a great idea for a branch evolution: Palafin as Hero mode and Nifalap as Villain mode.

  • @Glory2Snowstar

    @Glory2Snowstar

    Жыл бұрын

    My brain autocorrected this as “Nippleflap” and I’m just gonna call it that now.

  • @ojutay8375

    @ojutay8375

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ATK1734 have you seen it's Shiny. It's all Black

  • @MaxiemumKarnage

    @MaxiemumKarnage

    Жыл бұрын

    FLIPYAP THE GRUNTY DESTROYE- oh wrong game series

  • @goldenhydreigon4727
    @goldenhydreigon4727 Жыл бұрын

    We live in a society where a Delibird form got banned from OU

  • @MGlBlaze

    @MGlBlaze

    Жыл бұрын

    The distant future in the Pokemon world must be goddamn terrifying

  • @alessandrosimonguerreroseg8651

    @alessandrosimonguerreroseg8651

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine a mechanical Sunflora rampaging through a futuristic wasteland...

  • @midend

    @midend

    Жыл бұрын

    Unless you're a ttar form....

  • @shawnli4746

    @shawnli4746

    Жыл бұрын

    Now here I thought iron bundle and flutter mane were just abilities. Nope, they're just the official names of "Paldean Delibird" and "Paldean Misdreavus" designed with added swag.

  • @bdt2002gaming

    @bdt2002gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MGlBlaze Can’t wait to see a future where pre-transformed Ditto is actually viable on its own 😂

  • @mayitakeyourhatsir8632
    @mayitakeyourhatsir8632 Жыл бұрын

    Fluttermane is like Gamefreak thought to themselves "How can we re-create gen 1 Alakazam, but make it even better?"

  • @CoralReaper707

    @CoralReaper707

    Жыл бұрын

    That is a perfect comparison tbh

  • @CannonBallistic

    @CannonBallistic

    Ай бұрын

    gen 1 alakazam could at least be run as a twave support mon flutter mane is more like gen 1 mewtwo but replacing amnesia stat boosts with being insanely fast

  • @seanoodles7008
    @seanoodles7008 Жыл бұрын

    I remember the panic the ensued when we realized that kyurem-B would be getting dragon dance. Did not get a single day in OU

  • @kevinflynn4649

    @kevinflynn4649

    Жыл бұрын

    All fun and games until Kyurem finally takes dance classes

  • @nomongosinthaworld

    @nomongosinthaworld

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes it was in OU for about a week and it was cancer lol.

  • @bdt2002gaming

    @bdt2002gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    The bigger problems with buffed Kyurem-Black imo were Heavy-Duty Boots and the addition of Icicle Spear as a physical Ice-Type STAB, since no one was ever going to be using Freeze Shock in OU.

  • @ShiningJudgment666

    @ShiningJudgment666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bdt2002gaming That's all it was going to take. It's base stats alone are clearly Uber and before it got Dragon Dance and Icicle Spear, it was held back by it's relatively barren movepool (no proper Physical Ice STAB).

  • @grunkleg.3110
    @grunkleg.3110 Жыл бұрын

    Fitting for its blistering fast base 200 Speed, Regieleki just now set the record for fastest quickban, lasting a bit more than a day in OU. May it BoltBeam in hell

  • @skylarfox_bmb

    @skylarfox_bmb

    Жыл бұрын

    ubers any%

  • @djroscurro9859

    @djroscurro9859

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@skylarfox_bmbWR baby

  • @BlueWolfZero

    @BlueWolfZero

    Жыл бұрын

    Not only that, the ban was unanimous.

  • @notapear

    @notapear

    Жыл бұрын

    Gen 9 Ubers any% no major glitches world record holder. *Tera gets banned* Drops to UU.

  • @user-mr8qe9yt1l

    @user-mr8qe9yt1l

    9 ай бұрын

    It didn't have boltbeam tho.....literally learned only normal and electric moves

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 Жыл бұрын

    If we’re including UU, Espathra was recently banned 38 minutes after the tier entered Beta and bans became possible

  • @N12015

    @N12015

    Жыл бұрын

    Same for Hydreigon btw.

  • @Hyperneosonic97
    @Hyperneosonic97 Жыл бұрын

    To quote Smogon themselves: "It was the night after Thanksgiving, and all was well... but then robot Santa came and brought OU hell."

  • @itookthewooockkk5200

    @itookthewooockkk5200

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @RandalfElVikingo

    @RandalfElVikingo

    Жыл бұрын

    They are always salty haha

  • @edgyanole9705

    @edgyanole9705

    Жыл бұрын

    They tried to put as many pun in there as possible

  • @TheBeastJohn
    @TheBeastJohn Жыл бұрын

    Never in my life would I ever have thought that Delibird would ever have been so good that it had to have been quick banned. I wish I could go back in time and tell my 8 year old self playing Crystal and see the reaction, a Mon I thought only learned “Present”

  • @GravityIsFalling

    @GravityIsFalling

    Жыл бұрын

    Never in your life you thought that a Pokémon with 570, well optimized BST and perfect coverage would be banned?

  • @1deeman2

    @1deeman2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GravityIsFalling the fact it's Drlibird that got optimized to be monstrous

  • @GravityIsFalling

    @GravityIsFalling

    Жыл бұрын

    @@1deeman2 So your surprised that a Pokémon who desperately needed some love and attention…got some love and attention

  • @1deeman2

    @1deeman2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GravityIsFalling I expected an evo not a god

  • @JustCallTre

    @JustCallTre

    Жыл бұрын

    Just ignore ‘em. They’re purposely trying to be a condescending douche.

  • @kingwailord4143
    @kingwailord4143 Жыл бұрын

    When ORAS came out, the new tier PU had pokemon like lopunny and bedrill that received new mega evolutions. At the time, the tier was full of pokemon that were not even fully evolved; having just 90 attack was considered godlike. Then out of nowhere, mega pokemon got introduced. It took mere hours for the megas to be quick banned and they would all go on to be great pokemon in competitive tiers; Mega Lopunny for example manged to be the best mega in OU on a few occasions, even if it was just for a while and it was once in PU.

  • @silverrey7379

    @silverrey7379

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, you forgot to mention that Mega-Metagross was allowed in RU while this happened. Pretty hillarious if you ask me

  • @madysonandres9571

    @madysonandres9571

    Жыл бұрын

    ALSO Mega Camerupt only got out of PU because there wasn’t enough time to test it in PU, thus moving up to NU.

  • @grandmastr2602

    @grandmastr2602

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes we all saw that false swipe video

  • @cheryl9809

    @cheryl9809

    Жыл бұрын

    Did all megas initially start out in the same tier as their non mega forms and then get quick banned hours later??

  • @silverrey7379

    @silverrey7379

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cheryl9809 yup

  • @chrisjohnsen8448
    @chrisjohnsen8448 Жыл бұрын

    I have my doubts that Houndstone will remain banned. Not because Last Respects + Sand Rush isn't broken, but because Basculegion is coded to be able to have the move when HOME lets it into SV, and he's a better user of it than Houndstone in every way. As such, I suspect that they'll unban Houndstone and ban the move Last Respects itself, as it'll no longer be limited to a single Pokemon.

  • @Rarest26

    @Rarest26

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh absolutely. Baculegion makes Houndstone look like a UU mon.

  • @bulborb8756

    @bulborb8756

    Жыл бұрын

    plus basculegion will be a pretty strong swimmer with male having a strong option in Wave Crash, while the female has Hydro Pump

  • @598019001

    @598019001

    Жыл бұрын

    100%, as soon as last respects is on anything else, the move will be eating the ban and houndstone will come back. Until then, Houndstone can enjoy the scorn/Praise that comes from being broken enough for force one of the fastest quick bans ever in what seems to be one of the most power creep heavy generations ever.

  • @heatran5717

    @heatran5717

    Жыл бұрын

    People were saying that about rising voltage koko and expanding force lele last gen though,they could just make basculegion not get last respects at the last second

  • @breloommaster12

    @breloommaster12

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is that in order to ban Last Respects, it needs to be broken on the NFE Basculin-White-Striped as well. If Basculin-W is unable to be busted with Last Respects, they cannot get the go ahead to ban the move, which means both Houndstone and Basculegion may end up banned instead.

  • @SYKim_94
    @SYKim_94 Жыл бұрын

    Quick bans are the epitome of “well that escalated quickly”

  • @Wings_Of_Nightfall

    @Wings_Of_Nightfall

    Жыл бұрын

    Think it'd only get as far as "well tha"

  • @ryans8081

    @ryans8081

    Жыл бұрын

    More like "Well that's gg already" like you see on Temp6t's compilations.

  • @eagletgriff

    @eagletgriff

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryans8081 temp6t is cringe.

  • @radjetpack631
    @radjetpack631 Жыл бұрын

    There's just something really interestingly scary about a strategy based around playing a 1v6 w Houndstone AND STILL WINNING

  • @Pikacrew1
    @Pikacrew1 Жыл бұрын

    Basculigion is going to be a 1-day ban. We all know that swift swim last respect is going to be ridiculous. I hope it can make history.

  • @JustCallTre

    @JustCallTre

    Жыл бұрын

    No, at that point they’ll ban the move. They made a post talking about it when Houndstone was banned

  • @1tsJustKetchup

    @1tsJustKetchup

    Жыл бұрын

    adaptability + tera ghost + last respects for out of rain too

  • @joekewl7539

    @joekewl7539

    Жыл бұрын

    Swift Swim Choice Band Last Respects GG, shake my hand

  • @ZakanaHachihaCBC

    @ZakanaHachihaCBC

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustCallTreThen they should have just banned the move and save the headache.

  • @ink3487

    @ink3487

    Жыл бұрын

    It also gets agility

  • @Gironeon
    @Gironeon Жыл бұрын

    I’ll never forget the day Mega Salamence was revealed people were talking about how it would be banned to Ubers on day 1 and sure enough, it did 😂

  • @megatennepster3833

    @megatennepster3833

    Жыл бұрын

    And then Mega garchomp was the opposite

  • @TraumaCenter13

    @TraumaCenter13

    Жыл бұрын

    I said the same thing about Mega-Kangaskhan when it made its debut. When I read its Parental Bond ability, I knew it was going to get banned eventually.

  • @bdt2002gaming

    @bdt2002gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    Mega Salamence kind of feels like Mega Rayquaza in many ways. Flying-Type Double Edge is sort of like having Dragon Ascent, and base Salamence even gets to keep its five points higher base Speed over base Rayquaza after Mega Evolution.

  • @M3rtyville

    @M3rtyville

    Жыл бұрын

    Mega Salamence was going to be broken the moment it's design was revealed. If it got a speed buff and an attack buff, it is immediate Uber Material. But not only that happened, it got a build in Life Orb to Flying Stab. All it's normal moves became Flying Type and there are a lot of powerful and useful normal moves.

  • @Erokingu

    @Erokingu

    Жыл бұрын

    @@M3rtyville it was suspect test from the Cororcoro magazin and this video this video choc me that it wasn't quickban with datamining. A single move can make Salamence Uber and Game Freak give it a Mega and you still have a doubt ? mindbogling !!!

  • @t-1156
    @t-1156 Жыл бұрын

    When Game Freak showcased Houndstone's pre evolution with a teaser that ends with the death of the PoV character, it was actually downright prophetic

  • @pilby457
    @pilby457 Жыл бұрын

    It wasn't OU, but the Dunsparce quickban in little cup was glorious. Congratulations to the little guy

  • @RanserSSF4
    @RanserSSF4 Жыл бұрын

    If there is one thing we've learned, is that Gen 9/SV has the most insane power-creep in pokemon history. Never thought I'd see the day its power-creep would overshadow Gen 5.

  • @aSh-pi1in
    @aSh-pi1in Жыл бұрын

    While 300 BP is the most Common base Power for Last Respects, Last Respects BP and Boosted by the amount of times your team fainted, so if someone used revival blessing (or just a revive in game) it can go as High as 5050 BP

  • @grandangus5285

    @grandangus5285

    Жыл бұрын

    It caps at 350 bp luckily

  • @peepoweird

    @peepoweird

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grandangus5285 nah it goes up to 5050

  • @alejandrobernard3828

    @alejandrobernard3828

    Жыл бұрын

    @@grandangus5285 Rage Fist is the move that caps out at 350 BP.

  • @danielhicks1824

    @danielhicks1824

    Жыл бұрын

    this makes me wonder if you can recycle liechi berries via exeggutor in doubles or something for infinite revival blessings

  • @dorkfish1275

    @dorkfish1275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alejandrobernard3828 hate to burst your bubble but last respects caps at 350 too if you have revival blessing, since that can only be used once, maybe 400 if you have both pokemon that can learn it, last respects is technically nerfed because to get to 5050 power, you need to knock out your own pokemon 100 times, which is impossible.

  • @awesometoadultimate8562
    @awesometoadultimate8562 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: AI Sada's Flutter Mane has Shadow Ball, but not Moonblast. GF probably knew it would be too hard for most people if it had both.

  • @thecod2345

    @thecod2345

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair, they really should have included it. It has no evs to my knowledge.

  • @pooppooper9033

    @pooppooper9033

    Жыл бұрын

    It also doesn’t have Booster Energy. Also, spoilers.

  • @dawgtheundying5303

    @dawgtheundying5303

    Жыл бұрын

    Should have had both. The harder the better.

  • @nishant9289

    @nishant9289

    Жыл бұрын

    That also explains why in the AI Turo battle does Iron Bundle tries for snowscape turn 1 and sometimes keep abusing it uselessly; it'd be too difficult otherwise.

  • @lilylilaha

    @lilylilaha

    Жыл бұрын

    That battle was tough as is, but even a little more extra challenge I think would’ve been welcomed

  • @whomgod420
    @whomgod420 Жыл бұрын

    Dunsparce got a quickban from Little Cup at around the same time as Flutter Mane and Houndstone - which is not only insanely fast, but absolutely hilarious given that Dunsparce of all things got a quickban from something.

  • @yoshi2398
    @yoshi2398 Жыл бұрын

    The only ban quicker than flutter mane in Smogon history was Shedinja in gen 9 nat dex it took only 1 day to get banned with Cyclizar and terra elec it became an unkillable monster

  • @bdt2002gaming

    @bdt2002gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    All that just for Shedinja to still die to Sandstorm or Spikes damage 💀 Edit: If I remember right, aren’t Pokémon holding an Air Balloon immune to entry hazards?

  • @tetradyne-5602

    @tetradyne-5602

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bdt2002gaming Heavy Duty Boots prevents entry hazard damage. Air Balloon just makes you have the equiv. of Levitate(Ungrounded)

  • @jacksonparker6983

    @jacksonparker6983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bdt2002gaming they’re immune to the entry hazards the flying type would give them, so they would still be effected by stealth rock if I’m correct. Also I think shedinjas in NatDex ran sunny day or rain dance for the sole purpose of handling weather, since the only other moves you needed were swords dance, leech life, and shadow claw. Really the only thing standing in shedinja’s way was iron barbs/rough skin and rocky helmet.

  • @pooppooper9033

    @pooppooper9033

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bdt2002gaming You’d clear the hazards first, or switch in before they get a chance to set hazards at all (if you think they’re gonna use Stealth Rock, you can use Shed Tail for a free switch in, considering Cyclizar’s Speed). As for Sandstorm damage, you can actually run Sunny Day to catch their Ttar switch-in off guard.

  • @Schmoseph

    @Schmoseph

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jacksonparker6983Considering that Charizard and Talonflame are known for being utterly ruined by stealth rock, you are correct.

  • @asuuki2048
    @asuuki2048 Жыл бұрын

    12:55 There’s actually an extremely plausible theory that Guzzlord is simply a corrupted Zygarde. I just couldn’t help but mention it when you brought both of them up back to back lol

  • @AMVS24

    @AMVS24

    Жыл бұрын

    That's actually a really cool theory

  • @Terrified_Dartanyan

    @Terrified_Dartanyan

    Жыл бұрын

    JESUS CHRIST, in my 20 years of Pokemon, I never noticed how similar they look

  • @asuuki2048

    @asuuki2048

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Terrified_Dartanyan Well to be fair, Zygarde is only 9 years old, and Guzzlord is 6 lol (wow time flies…….) But yeah, I personally think that Zygarde became a Guzzlord after it succumbed to the power plant exploding and leaking radiation. It also checks out that Zygarde would be near the power plant during its meltdown, as it is the guardian of the ecosystem. After becoming corrupted, it became the destroyer of the ecosystem, Guzzlord……. Hell, you find Guzzlord & Zygarde in the exact same cave lol. There’s just so much to explain… James Turner, who designed Guzzlord, was asked by a fan if there was any significance to Guzzlord’s heavy resemblance to Zygarde. His response was, “Ah… That’s something I don’t think I can really get into. They do look a lot alike though, huh :)” A theory that I *personally* came up with, is that Guzzlord was going to be a major plot point in the scrapped Pokémon Z game, maybe even a form Zygarde took that Team Flare caused it to mutate into, and you had to “purify” it. Since the game was scrapped, it was then saved for Generation 7, and either: A. Made into a completely separate Pokémon, but the similarities from the original concept were unchanged, causing us to think that the two are the same Pokémon (since that was the original intention). B. Kept the original idea of Guzzlord being a corrupted Zygarde, but tweaked it to not be shoved in our faces, made far more discrete, leading to multiple interpretations. Of course, I’ve no MAJOR proof of it originally being in Pokémon Z, but it still seems plausible I think. GameFreak is known to scrap ideas, only to introduce them later, even if slightly tweaked. We would need for the Beta of Pokémon Z to be leaked, if they even began developing it at all before scrapping it… Still, as sad as it is that the game never saw the light of day, that extra time they got to develop Sun & Moon truly, truly payed off. Please, I can wait a year without a main title coming out, like they did in 2015, the year Pokémon Z would have been released……. It’s why they were able to bring back every Pokémon in Sun & Moon, they actually took a breather for a year.

  • @asuuki2048

    @asuuki2048

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Terrified_Dartanyan Sorry for the novel ;~;

  • @Slaking_

    @Slaking_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@asuuki2048 That's a really cool theory about Guzzlord being scrapped from Z, but I don't think it's true. There isn't much evidence to suggest that GF ever worked on Pokemon Z, which is unfortunate because X/Y felt very unfinished, and Z could've been a banger of a game if it fleshed out the Kalos region.

  • @michaelchristie8329
    @michaelchristie8329 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying these list/explanation videos lately. It’s like a lightning round of ‘How X was Y Actually?’

  • @victoriatowns9237

    @victoriatowns9237

    Жыл бұрын

    Is it weird the these videos remind me of the “The Most Extreme” videos of old animal planet? Like yesssss, show me the ridiculously broken Pokémon and why they’re so broken.

  • @donkarasu-9644
    @donkarasu-9644 Жыл бұрын

    Man, the Paradox Pokemon are strong. The team behind Scarlet/Violet definitely made them solely final boss material in mind.

  • @rjante2236

    @rjante2236

    11 ай бұрын

    I agree. In that regard, they are well-designed.

  • @baxterbruce9827

    @baxterbruce9827

    10 ай бұрын

    Except Brute Bonnet Edit: Except, even the "bad" ones are (mostly) being compared to an original they don't even play the same as

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube Жыл бұрын

    What were they thinking when they added moves that could surpass the power of _Explosion_ that you could actually spam and wouldn't come with any downside

  • @nickmiller8386

    @nickmiller8386

    Жыл бұрын

    Well...they don't balance for singles, generally. Last Respects in VGC is never hitting above 200bp and it's easily swatted away in doubles

  • @lorenzoromito7735

    @lorenzoromito7735

    Жыл бұрын

    They were thinking "this move would be fun during the story, and almost irrelevant in VGC, so it's okay". Gamefreak balances the game around VGC, not singles.

  • @skeetermania3202

    @skeetermania3202

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nickmiller8386 In BSS, it would tie with Hyper Beam.

  • @SeriousStriker

    @SeriousStriker

    Жыл бұрын

    It all started with Dracovish's Fishious Rend.

  • @Futuristic271

    @Futuristic271

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of people have mentioned VGC but also ranked singles is a 3v3 like the anime

  • @vannoah
    @vannoah Жыл бұрын

    rayquaza being banned from ubers is still one of the funniest things to ever happen

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Жыл бұрын

    Man, I forgot how hilarious Zygarde-Complete's bulk was. Just tanks a 4x SE STAB Ice Beam coming off of (only) 103 Sp. Atk. ....Yet there's at least 1 glitch Pokemon in Gen 1 that's higher in EVERY base stat. It makes me wonder just how quickly Glitch Pokemon like that would be banned for their POWER, not their glitchyness, if they were in today's meta. Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @henriquepacheco7473

    @henriquepacheco7473

    Жыл бұрын

    Bunch of the glitch pokemon had absolutely unusable learnsets, ignoring of course glitch moves that would just break the game.

  • @sagacious03

    @sagacious03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@henriquepacheco7473 Yeah, but many of the glitch Pokemon, even among those with high base stats also had good movesets, even by Gen 1 standards.

  • @fennecfoxfanatic

    @fennecfoxfanatic

    Жыл бұрын

    BigYellow has made a couple of vids on this topic :3. Go check them out!

  • @sagacious03

    @sagacious03

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fennecfoxfanatic I did & they were great! Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @calmuxie4859
    @calmuxie4859 Жыл бұрын

    We have a new record holder, with it even outdoing Marshadow. Congrats Regieleki!

  • @matigamer329
    @matigamer329 Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki got banned to Ubers just 1 day after Pokemon HOME was updated, thanks to Terablast. Now it can terastalize into an ice type and decimate ground types.

  • @14g0t7

    @14g0t7

    Жыл бұрын

    as well as dragon and grass types

  • @cursezero1125
    @cursezero1125 Жыл бұрын

    NEW VIDEO IDEA: "POKEMON THAT YOU DIDNT EXPECT TO BE BANNED" (ex: Wynaut, Linoone, and etc.) ( can be in any tier )

  • @silverrey7379

    @silverrey7379

    Жыл бұрын

    Wynaut being both in LC and Ubers in gen 4 is amazing (just shows how broken Shadow Tag was)

  • @bluebaron6811

    @bluebaron6811

    Жыл бұрын

    **Diglett has joined the chat.** Yes. Diglett was, for a brief time, banned from B2W2 OU. That was before they just decided to ban Arena Trap.

  • @Cat-pv6yx

    @Cat-pv6yx

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine having essentially 170x1.5 base attack stat (zacian crowned) but still be Ubers while a bug with 1 health gets banned to natdex AG the moment where bans were released

  • @DerpityDerpz1

    @DerpityDerpz1

    Жыл бұрын

    Chatot

  • @GoTELuckyCharms
    @GoTELuckyCharms Жыл бұрын

    Hey FSG crew, thank you for sticking around so long. Y'all got me into smogon singles and I haven't looked back since gen 7. Y'all are the best

  • @ethandavis2373
    @ethandavis2373 Жыл бұрын

    Flutter Mane is absolutely ridiculous and I love it. By far one of my favorite OU mons in the first days of SV

  • @EricKingOfScots
    @EricKingOfScots Жыл бұрын

    And now regieleki has beaten the record being banned in less than a day.

  • @justinwiebe8327
    @justinwiebe8327 Жыл бұрын

    Top 5 Quick Bans in UU: 5: Staraptor (Gen 4) 4: Staraptor (Gen 5) 3: Staraptor (Gen 6) 2: Staraptor (Gen 7) 1: Garchomp (Gen 9)

  • @rjante2236

    @rjante2236

    Жыл бұрын

    20 years from now Staraptor will still be banned from UU

  • @Metaknighttheloneswordsman

    @Metaknighttheloneswordsman

    Жыл бұрын

    The birds are strong huh?

  • @rubenduenas5881
    @rubenduenas5881 Жыл бұрын

    If Houndstone was banned quickly for Last Respects, I'm genuinely terrified for when Basculegion comes to OU, a pokemon with Swift Swim, faster speed, more attack, and STAB LAST RESPECTS

  • @samuka6163

    @samuka6163

    Жыл бұрын

    Then Last Respects gets banned and they unban Houndstone, since there's then evidence that the problem is the move.

  • @voltingmaster5458
    @voltingmaster5458 Жыл бұрын

    BREAKING NEWS: Regileki Dethrones Marshadow As Fastest Pokemon Banned From OU, Banned In Less Than A Day!

  • @thatonetrainer5818
    @thatonetrainer5818 Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki: and I took this as a challenge

  • @festafunerea
    @festafunerea Жыл бұрын

    11:32 I always knew Zygarde 100% reminded me of something, but I couldn't remember what. It was Perfect Cell all these years and I just noticed now.

  • @Eric6761

    @Eric6761

    Жыл бұрын

    And remember he needs to absorb/fuse with certain organisms to get his 100%

  • @andytaker3073
    @andytaker3073 Жыл бұрын

    Houndstone's should have have a second signature move called Tombstoner. Just as a callback from gen 1 in Blaine's gym.

  • @ManOfUnknownWorth

    @ManOfUnknownWorth

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, "Tombstoner" was changed to "Tombstony" in FireRed/LeafGreen and beyond.

  • @aprinnyonbreak1290

    @aprinnyonbreak1290

    Жыл бұрын

    You can get the Tombstoner TM in Pokemon Periwinkle. It has the same TM availability as Dig, which gives a lot of pokemon access to a Rock move. It fits nicely on Charmander, and together with Dragon Rage and Charmustard, make Charmeleon a WAY better pokemon for the midgame Actually a lot of mediocre pokemon in gen 1 get nice moves to propel them a bit, which is good to account for the increased difficulty. Like, Pidgy can actually compete with Spearow thanks to its new move, and there's even new pokemon like Jumpeon, the only Jump type pokemon in the game, and Obamatwo.

  • @skeetermania3202

    @skeetermania3202

    Жыл бұрын

    Gym Leader Matt might like that.

  • @kikaioshin6700

    @kikaioshin6700

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately this doesn't really work because the Japanese name for Tombstoner is "Die! Die! Beam", which doesn't really fit Hounstone as well as Tombstoner

  • @shadowgallade
    @shadowgallade Жыл бұрын

    shoutouts to regieleki breaking that record, only taking 1 day

  • @dylanbuchanan6511
    @dylanbuchanan6511 Жыл бұрын

    12:48 I know its just a Pokémon game, but hearing that legitimately terrifies me

  • @awesometoadultimate8562
    @awesometoadultimate8562 Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki just got banned from OU after Home's expansion to SV. It took about 25 hours.

  • @milessmith2248
    @milessmith2248 Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki getting banned in one day: You wanna see some real speed

  • @igeomagician
    @igeomagician Жыл бұрын

    Palafin felt like Gen 2 snorlax for a moment. Best way to beat it was to chip it and then send out your own

  • @user-lq4ct6dr5m

    @user-lq4ct6dr5m

    Жыл бұрын

    In the past we have the Tauros war Now we have the dolphin war

  • @emmetstanevich2121

    @emmetstanevich2121

    Жыл бұрын

    GSC snorlax is at least slow, so you can always at least hit it before it hits you.

  • @usernametaken017

    @usernametaken017

    2 ай бұрын

    ok but one is fun to fight against

  • @peterholmes7440
    @peterholmes7440 Жыл бұрын

    I’m genuently surprised not to see Marshadow in Gen 7 OU. I’m pretty sure it was quickban after 24 hours only.

  • @andrewtan8155
    @andrewtan8155 Жыл бұрын

    I remember when Mega Venusaur and Mega Diancie were unleashed into UU in mid-2018 and seeing the collective UU community go into full Defcon 4 and panic mode. Mega DIancie was quickbanned in just under a week I believe because obviously what the hell was the council thinking. It took a bit longer for Mega Venusaur to get get fully tested in the waters it now dominated but it was soon also deemed too broken for UU and banned around 2 weeks after Mega Diancie was. I think it's still considered one of the most WTF moments UU ever experienced.

  • @webbowser8834
    @webbowser8834 Жыл бұрын

    So my memory may be faulty, but I coulda sworn that Mega Salamence was so hilariously busted, it was banned *before ORAS even came out*. IIRC the tier was playable slightly before release due to dataminers doing their thing, and during that time Megamance was banned. *edit Not OU, but I'll never forget about the time in Gen 6 Lando-I fell down to UU for all of 6 hours... and was summarily quick banned alongside Kyurem Black. Was easily my favorite memory of being part of the Smogon community.

  • @Terrified_Dartanyan
    @Terrified_Dartanyan Жыл бұрын

    Houndstone may have been banned, but he won't be forgotten... Basculegion is coming OU, and in a poetic way, he will take revenge for his ghost comrade

  • @bulborb8756

    @bulborb8756

    Жыл бұрын

    i'd say mostly male basculegion as his atk stat is 112 compared to the females 92, but this will likely be the same story

  • @Terrified_Dartanyan

    @Terrified_Dartanyan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bulborb8756 they will both be banned

  • @JustCallTre

    @JustCallTre

    Жыл бұрын

    No, they won’t. I read the smogon entry to Houndstone. They said they’re only banning Houndstone and not the move because ATM, only Houndstone has the move. They said if “the rumor is true and another Pokémon is getting the move” that they will end up banning the move, what means neither basculegion willl be banned, AND Houndstone will be taken out of Uber.

  • @Terrified_Dartanyan

    @Terrified_Dartanyan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustCallTre yeah same thing, I just want to have fun with Basculegion, he seems great on rain with that monstrous 120 HP

  • @breloommaster12

    @breloommaster12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustCallTre there is actually a wrench to this plan for freeing Houndstone, and that is Basculin-White-Striped. A move is only banworthy for being OP if it is broken on ALL of its MULTIPLE users, of which there are currently 4 (Houndstone, Basculegion -Male, Basculegion-Female, Basculin-White-Striped). If even one of those users isn't broken with the move, the move ban reasoning would be lost and the other three users will be banned instead. So I hope, for your sake, that Last Respects is enough to break Basculin-White-Striped as well, and bear in mind that Basculin-White-Striped is not only much frailer, but it also lacks a weather speed-boosting ability like its brethren.

  • @route1trainer
    @route1trainer Жыл бұрын

    Now Regieleki has been banned from Gen 9 OU in 24 hours lol

  • @yeet8036
    @yeet8036 Жыл бұрын

    i still think about how people thought that darkrai,skymin and manaphy would be balanced in gen 5 ou

  • @threadmiser4914
    @threadmiser4914 Жыл бұрын

    Scarlet & Violet are the most cracked gen in terms of how wild the variance is. There's plenty of perfectly acceptable pokemon in Paldea, but there's also almost enough insane mons to make an entire team of OU quickbans.

  • @raysay1818

    @raysay1818

    Жыл бұрын

    Let's go power creep

  • @PlatinumStrife
    @PlatinumStrife Жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Marshadow the fastest quick ban with 5-6 h after his release in S/M?

  • @dabmonstr7403

    @dabmonstr7403

    Жыл бұрын

    That doesn't count because marshadow was added in the middle of the generation (I think I forgot). If that's the case then mega lopunny would be the quickest ban from pu which was an hour

  • @PlatinumStrife

    @PlatinumStrife

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dabmonstr7403 I can see it somewhat but they could have mention it as a honorable mention due to his release date hindering his quick ban because let us be real: it wouldn't have last long (I mean it hasn't lastest long to begin with but at the begining of Gen 7 it just wouldn't).

  • @noahtaylor1721

    @noahtaylor1721

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dabmonstr7403Nope, he was in the game from the beginning. He was only legally obtained through a mystery gift in the middle of a generation though.

  • @Shinxed

    @Shinxed

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dabmonstr7403 wait mega lopunny was pu?? Wish i could play that even if it was for 1 hour

  • @hunbi1875

    @hunbi1875

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dabmonstr7403 uh the title says "In OU"

  • @joelbrich2538
    @joelbrich2538 Жыл бұрын

    Flutter mane makes me mad because it completely invalidates mismagius.

  • @_puduposting
    @_puduposting Жыл бұрын

    Palafin in OU was like that scene from the Powerpuff girls movie, where the girls play tag with some kids and destroy the whole city

  • @kyyourneutralisminekiske7104
    @kyyourneutralisminekiske7104 Жыл бұрын

    Who ready for the remake 5 years later where we can see the day 1 Regieleki ban

  • @juniorkyle8123
    @juniorkyle8123 Жыл бұрын

    *regieleki casually blitzing the record*

  • @jonisuominen7836
    @jonisuominen7836 Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that Zygarde complete was OU. That's absurd 😂

  • @Sasha-ph9uv

    @Sasha-ph9uv

    Жыл бұрын

    It's because Zygarde 50% was OU in XY

  • @emmetstanevich2121

    @emmetstanevich2121

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it's because only newly introduced box art legendaries are Uber by default, hence why pokemon like Kyurem and Necrozma were in the lower tiers for a hot minute. At the same time, the alternate forms of kyurem and necrozma were in ubers right off the bat because they were introduced as box-arts. I think the same rationale could have been applied for Zygarde-C if pokemon Z ever existed, but since it didn't debut in a game that had it plastered on the cover, it wasn't uber by default. Not sure how it works for the DLC legendaries, though.

  • @Dusxio
    @Dusxio Жыл бұрын

    The Cell edit for Zygarde was perfect XD

  • @giacomobongrazio
    @giacomobongrazio Жыл бұрын

    "You either die a hero or live short enough to see yourself become the villain". Palafin, 2022.

  • @droozyyy
    @droozyyy Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki wasn’t satisfied outspeeding everything in battle so it outsped everyone in getting quickbanned

  • @kwayke9
    @kwayke9 Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki getting banned from SV at 200 base speed: hi

  • @ashketchum13579
    @ashketchum13579 Жыл бұрын

    FSG, thanks for so many years of releasing high-quality content for the competitive pokemon scene. Always look forward to new videos!

  • @lurkerlp
    @lurkerlp Жыл бұрын

    The craziest thing about this video is that it’s Outdated. After only 5 months. Which shouldn’t have been the case.

  • @backpackerraden6268
    @backpackerraden6268 Жыл бұрын

    Soooooo anyone else here in awe now that Gen IX led to 3/5 fastest quick bans?

  • @ctoooc
    @ctoooc Жыл бұрын

    Regieleki got banned in just under a day 😂

  • @mochiman6307
    @mochiman6307 Жыл бұрын

    And now regeleki has not even taken a day

  • @Sightnado
    @Sightnado Жыл бұрын

    The release of Pokemon HOME compatibility for S/V has brought with it the new fastest OU quickban in history: Regieleki was quickbanned only 25 hours after being made available, in true Regieleki fashion.

  • @bluebaron6811

    @bluebaron6811

    Жыл бұрын

    "We need a counter to Regieleki!" "What Regieleki?" "The one right th-... Wait, where'd he go?" "See, *nothin'* to worry about". That's what it was like to me. He was a darn phantom; you swore he was there, but he was gone so fast you had to double check that he was there to begin with.

  • @DespairMagic
    @DespairMagic Жыл бұрын

    That Zygarde abridged Cell edit was amazing! 😂❤️

  • @joellim3434
    @joellim3434 Жыл бұрын

    U can add regieleki as a 25 hour ban lol

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 Жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate how you have been explaining how the ou council works

  • @AaronIsneri
    @AaronIsneri Жыл бұрын

    So Regieleki's been banned in a single day. Mach speed bolt-beam coverage is a hell of a drug.

  • @MJyoung35
    @MJyoung35 Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoying these new style of videos being mixed in your regular content

  • @TraumaCenter13
    @TraumaCenter13 Жыл бұрын

    I guess Delibird got so tired of being ridicule that it went cyborgization and proceed to destroy everything.

  • @Iris_Descent
    @Iris_Descent Жыл бұрын

    I love Flutter Mane with all my being, but man that thing had to go instantly. I can't wait for Chi-Yu to get banned in 12 hours in Gen 10.

  • @unknownartist689

    @unknownartist689

    4 ай бұрын

    Flutter Mane has much to be broken, great stats well distributed, an amazingly good typing with few weakness, various immunities, nearly unresisted only with STABs.

  • @Youngneilinthereal
    @Youngneilinthereal Жыл бұрын

    Damn palafin was banned so quickly UU wasn’t even there 😭

  • @thememehead

    @thememehead

    Жыл бұрын

    Flutter mane was even faster

  • @Youngneilinthereal

    @Youngneilinthereal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thememehead yea lmao atleast they made the hard to get post-game mons really good

  • @amayurubashaka3608

    @amayurubashaka3608

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly I'm fine with all the banned mons because they're all actually pretty good in ubers.

  • @naganut9718

    @naganut9718

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amayurubashaka3608 I mean, there's only like 6 mons in ubers lmao

  • @Ego-Fiend

    @Ego-Fiend

    Жыл бұрын

    @@amayurubashaka3608 We only have a few in ubers Just wait for the home DLC and nobody would use them lol

  • @MissinDaSylveon
    @MissinDaSylveon Жыл бұрын

    Last Respects is probably the most broken Pokemon move EVER. Think about it, if you sacrifice everyone else on your team, the move's base power will be 300, which is stronger than freaking explosion. It doesn’t make the user faint like explosion ethier. The only way to tank it would be being normal type…

  • @aSh-pi1in

    @aSh-pi1in

    Жыл бұрын

    While 300 BP is the most Common base Power for Last Respects, Last Respects BP and Boosted by the amount of times your team fainted, so if someone used revival blessing (or just a revive in game) it can go as High as 5050 BP

  • @SeriousStriker

    @SeriousStriker

    Жыл бұрын

    Fishious Rend hits way harder with Dracovish's Strong Jaw doesn't it?

  • @MissinDaSylveon

    @MissinDaSylveon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SeriousStriker Yes. Fishous Rend needs to be in rain to possibly have higher power than 5 fainted allies Last Respects though.

  • @123christianac

    @123christianac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@aSh-pi1in There's a hard cap of 350.

  • @An_Entire_Lime

    @An_Entire_Lime

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SeriousStriker In rain yes, but being slightly weaker than god king dracofish still means you're pretty good

  • @chrisrose4703
    @chrisrose4703 Жыл бұрын

    and here comes regieleki to make a record nobody will top lmao

  • @TheFuriator
    @TheFuriator Жыл бұрын

    No way Zygarde-Complete was OU, the beast I was using in Ubers for quite some time, that's just hilarious.

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that misdreavus is technically the fastest quick-banned pokemon is legendary

  • @SomeAsian

    @SomeAsian

    Жыл бұрын

    Misdreavus and Deliberd in Ubers while Hydreigon and Tyranitar dropped to UU. Paradox indeed.

  • @beanimationsYT
    @beanimationsYT Жыл бұрын

    Time for regieleki in home meta, he got banned faster than I do

  • @annaangelic2318
    @annaangelic2318 Жыл бұрын

    Zangoose, when it dropped to ZU during a tier shift in SM, was unanimously and immediately banned by the entire council. It’s funny when the stars align, everyone is online, and a completely broken Pokémon drops.

  • @XMirrorJoe
    @XMirrorJoe Жыл бұрын

    Oh Aegislash, one of my fave mons! Watching the video I remembered the SubToxic set, I think it had King's Shield and Shadow Ball, that was a nasty set. I also remember when it came on 6th Gen, it was physical attacker, then special and finally the better set was the SubToxic, so versatile.

  • @MTT563
    @MTT56310 ай бұрын

    I love how you can hear him almost crack up a bit when talking about the Memento strategy for Houndstone

  • @benanator876
    @benanator876 Жыл бұрын

    i wanted to play through scarlet and violet before i got into it’s competitive scene and flutter mane got banned before i even knew what the pokemon was lmao

  • @dynamic8192
    @dynamic8192 Жыл бұрын

    I remember using flutter mane due to its monstrous stats. For houndstone I actually looked at it, and even found the move last respects, but I didn't understand what will it exactly work until temp6t's video explained everything. However, at that time it was just banned so I went to ubers.

  • @thorveack
    @thorveack Жыл бұрын

    Just to correct that Video, there's an even more ludicrous than all of those : Marshadow from sun and Moon who only stayed OU for 2 days before being quick banned.

  • @voltingmaster5458
    @voltingmaster5458 Жыл бұрын

    Magearna comes in being banned faster Than Genesect And Naganadel.

  • @unknownartist689

    @unknownartist689

    4 ай бұрын

    Why they banned Magearna and Naganadel?

  • @tktyga77
    @tktyga77 Жыл бұрын

    What about cases for the opposite where the bans ironically improved their viability (like how Shedinja turned out decent in Ubers & VGC despite being abysmal in standard play including OU)?

  • @attilaszanto2275
    @attilaszanto2275 Жыл бұрын

    A few things just occured to me. 1. They clearly haven't learned their lesson from Dracovish, whose base stats aren't that great, but has a busted signature move, similar to Houndstone. 2. The base power of Last Respects actually caps at 5050 if pokémon faint 100 times since revived pokémon who faint afterwards also count. I know this is impossible in pvp battles and tournaments, but still. 3. Basculegion can learn Last Respects by breeding, and has Swift Swim and Adaptability. I think, shortly after it becomes available, Basculegion will also be banned.

  • @skeetermania3202

    @skeetermania3202

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it’s obvious that GF doesn’t balance around Smogon’s format. Saying they “haven’t learned their lesson” sounds pretty condescending.

  • @Rarest26

    @Rarest26

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, it’s technically possible. Pawmot and Rabsca get Revival Blessing, literally a revive in the form of a move. It won’t reach the cap, but you can easily get LR to 400 or even 500 with Leppa Berry on both.

  • @ElectricSh33ps

    @ElectricSh33ps

    Жыл бұрын

    In that case wouldn't it make more sense to ban Last Respects instead of the Pokemon that can use it?

  • @midnightemerald

    @midnightemerald

    Жыл бұрын

    I think it caps at 300 but im not sure

  • @aSh-pi1in

    @aSh-pi1in

    Жыл бұрын

    @@midnightemerald it was tested in game, and the dataminer found that it can reach 5050 BP

  • @FryGuy909
    @FryGuy90910 ай бұрын

    something ironic is that now houndstone is in NU

  • @msthecommentator2863
    @msthecommentator286310 ай бұрын

    7:09 To put it into perspective, Iron Bundle's base speed stat is so broken, it could outspeed most Pokemon even if the opposing team was under the effects of tailwind 😳

  • @TKnHappyNess
    @TKnHappyNess Жыл бұрын

    Players know how powerful Complete Zygarde is, especially those who were trying to get it's shiny form in Dynamax Adventures

  • @gurshaangrewal2009
    @gurshaangrewal2009 Жыл бұрын

    Talk about gen 9 regieleki

  • @meta1429
    @meta1429 Жыл бұрын

    Coming back to this video after Last Respects just got banned by the Smogon Community. Houndstone legit about to be put down of a job.

  • @milkandnuts5816
    @milkandnuts5816 Жыл бұрын

    To complement the disgusting power of Last Respects, it one shoted my 331 defense Ting Lu in a lucky critical hit and it was horrifying

  • @nikc101

    @nikc101

    Жыл бұрын

    F

  • @An_Entire_Lime

    @An_Entire_Lime

    Жыл бұрын

    300 base power + stab + crit and lets throw in a choice band for good measure Thats a total of 1012.5 BP I would make a comparison but there is nothing else in the game that even comes close to this

  • @An_Entire_Lime

    @An_Entire_Lime

    Жыл бұрын

    @@calsalitra4689 I guess I was wrong Although it does require you to be in rain, with strong Jaw, and faster But the BP is still there Fishious Rend was one hell of a move

  • @Rashyboy05
    @Rashyboy05 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Houndstone's quickban has to be with an asterisk because almost everyone believes that it should be Last Respects that should be banned and not Houndstone itself. It's just some bullshit about making sure that every Last Respects user is broken, since Basculegion is the only other Pokemon that knows Last Respect but it's not in SV yet, because of the move itself even though we know Basculegion would be even more broken with the move than Houndstone.

  • @bulborb8756

    @bulborb8756

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm no competitive player, but I'd say it would be better to just ban Last Respects itself rather then the pokemon who know the move

  • @aSh-pi1in

    @aSh-pi1in

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bulborb8756 I think they banned Houndstone because it's the only one that can learn it, but, if Basculin turns out to be balanced with Last Respects (lmao at the idea) then Basculegion will Terrorize Ubers, especially thanks to It gaining Swift Swim

  • @astilcodex6930

    @astilcodex6930

    Жыл бұрын

    When basculegion comes out. Theyll ban the move and unban the Pokemon.

  • @breloommaster12

    @breloommaster12

    Жыл бұрын

    @@astilcodex6930 the thing is that Basculin-White-Striped also gets Last Respects, and the little tyke would need to be broken with the move as well for Last Respects to be banned.

  • @astilcodex6930

    @astilcodex6930

    Жыл бұрын

    @@breloommaster12 o didnt know that. Welp then bye basculegion

  • @jonisuominen7836
    @jonisuominen7836 Жыл бұрын

    Back when ORAS was released, several pokemon in PU got mega evolutions. The most broken were Lopunny, Beedrill and Altaria that got banned after three hours or so. Freezai made a video about it. E: Just realized that this video was about OU. Dumb me.

  • @naganut9718
    @naganut9718 Жыл бұрын

    They gave a REGULAR Pokemon with 650 bst with only catch is you must switch it in order to activate it, but they still insist even on PLA to gave Regigigas Slow Start

  • @justinnzamora5366

    @justinnzamora5366

    Жыл бұрын

    GameFreak's balance philosophy is always mystifying.

  • @TheMightyWobb

    @TheMightyWobb

    Жыл бұрын

    Hell at this point Regigigas wouldn't even be broken anymore without Slow Start, it would just be solid

  • @An_Entire_Lime

    @An_Entire_Lime

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMightyWobb They're 1000% doing it for the joke at this point, hell slow start probably started as a joke, there were better legendaries than no slow start regigigas even back in gen 4