My new "surplus market" is the Police trade in stuff. It's still reasonably priced and in some cases they're basically giving away .40 cal Glocks for 200 bucks. I really like the stuff that's marked "For Police and Government Use Only".

@thesmalllebowski6528

Жыл бұрын

I almost bought a 5906 for $280 on sportsman's guide. By the time I contacted my FFL to make sure they were taking transfers, it was sold out. Can confirm on the .40 glocks. Got a g22.4 for $299 with tritium sights, like new. Put a .357 sig barrel in and it's my woods gun

@bullriderinwrangler1

Жыл бұрын

Yea, it's funny how the company with the lowest bid that makes the "for police or government use" usually makes some of the cheapest and best stuff.

@treposey4107

Жыл бұрын

i just grabbed a blue label gen 4 G23 for 300.00 at auction :D

@The_SmorgMan

Жыл бұрын

If those are for “government use only,” what do you use for street criminals?

@RipRLeeErmey

Жыл бұрын

@@The_SmorgMan The Civie stuff loaded with government parts :D

I like Turtles

@Ratwithagatpewpew69

Жыл бұрын

Same

@Alexander-cg1ey

Жыл бұрын

I as well like turtles

@thomasr11

Жыл бұрын

I'm more of a tortoise guy

@jamesk9321

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasr11 No, turtles!

@imjentzplaysmc

Жыл бұрын

I like you 😘

I had a Fudd at at gun show try to sell me a MAS 36 with a beat up stock and a shit ton of rust for $700 by saying "the bore on this French rifle is in great condition because they surrendered before they could use it" I told him the bore is irrelevant with the current condition of the rifle. Later on another Fudd was selling a Finnish Mosin for $600 it had holes drilled into the chamber for an optics mount that was painful to see.

@mattnw42

Жыл бұрын

Those M39 are amazing rifles

I remember when the average Carcano ran about $14.95 and the rest of these guns had prices in line with the Carcanos.

@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

Жыл бұрын

And this is why I wish I had the ability to time travel

@Brzcastas

Жыл бұрын

What else u could buy for $15 back then?

@Kazuhiroaka

Жыл бұрын

A friend of mine in Texas, Alek Hidell got one with a 4x scope in '63 for $19.95. Don't know what he ended up using it for...

@panzerabwerkanone

Жыл бұрын

@@Kazuhiroaka Hunting.

@panzerabwerkanone

Жыл бұрын

@@Brzcastas A week's worth of groceries if you were single. A round of beers at the bar....

I got a 1903/38 Turkish Mauser years ago and its probably the best shooting Mauser in my collection. Bolt is glassy smooth, trigger breaks like a glass rod, and shoots a tight group. I held off on getting Turkish Mausers for a long time because a lot of people said they were junk.

@sandpounder3443

Жыл бұрын

I have one. Had the same experience with mine

I remember passing are mosins for 100 bucks thinking “what an overpriced piece of junk” Would be nice to have those days back.

Just bought a G-11 from edelweiss arms, subsidiary of KRISS. Excellent gun for $615 shipped. Came with sling, muzzle cover and in a long rifle case* that the G11 actually fits in. Couldn’t recommend them more for any Swiss rifle.

Can't believe Swedish Mausers are still available at this price, total bargain.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

100%

@rogainegaming6924

Жыл бұрын

Theyre such good guns. I absolutely adore the 6.5 swedish.

@panzerabwerkanone

Жыл бұрын

My neck of the woods they are well over $500. Most running $600-$900. My first one I bought for $109 many years ago.

@badboybootz8

Жыл бұрын

They're not though

Long time Swedish Mauser fan. Have their target variants as well and just started hand loading for them. Factory ppu and Sellier and Bellot ammo can be found for dirt cheap these days too, in comparison to other full size military calibers

Nice job Mike! Picked up a M96 Swede all matching, beautiful wood, this past year. Here in the northeast, they are approaching 600 bucks quickly. If you want one, don’t hesitate.

The Argentine M1891 Mauser was my first gun in the 60's. Paid $30 for it at Sears. Years later I added the Model 1909 Mauser also in 7.65x51mm, loved it too.

I own two Caranos. One TS and one cavalry carbine. Luckily, they're both in good condition and are pretty accurate. I actually got the ammo a bit before grabbing the first Carcano. This was back when the TS model was only $250.

@thEannoyingE

Жыл бұрын

Do you have the model Oswald used?

@reggaetonjones1988

Жыл бұрын

@@thEannoyingE No, the one he allegedly used was the M91/38, I believe. I own the M91/24 TS and cavalry variant with the fixed bayonet. Anyone who's more versed on the subject, correct me if I'm wrong. They're neat little rifle. I love how the clip slides out the bottom after chambering the last round. Very satisfying.

@googlepissoff5776

Жыл бұрын

Same, I got a 1916 TS from Gander mountain before they stopped selling guns. $250 out the door for a WW1 pattern carbine. (Didn’t even have the side sling swivel mounts)

I purchased my Swedish 96 Mauser from Woolworths for under $60.00 many years ago. Love it. It's one of my favorites, shoots flat, and is very accurate.

Great video Mike, as always. These video do influence the market and it's silly to think they don't. Not just you obviously, all the other big KZreadrs influence this too. Arisakas were sub 250 bucks 1-2 years ago and now they're selling for 650-800+ all day long and I attribute that to people making videos on them.

I really dig my Turk Mauser,ever since i was shown my dads original Swede Mauser i was hooked. Got mine in December for a solid 400. Stock is great and the bore is perfect! Im glad i found the mil surp hobby,but im kinda sad i found it so late lol,prices have gone crazy

Loved the video. The Swedish Mauser and Carcano are two of my favorites.

Great informative video💖 thank you

#5 1:43 Argentine 1891 Mauser #4 3:38 mentioned at 4:23 Swedish M96 #3 6:39 Mosin Nagant M9130 #2 8:20 Carcano 1891 Cavalry #1 10:58 Turkish M38 Mauser

I found a 43 Turkish Mauser in really great shape at a local gun shop for $300. Thanks for the recommendation. It’s not numbers matching (bolt is different) but still a good pickup.

Interesting video. One of the better ones seen in 2023 so far. Thanks a bunch.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Hey Mike, WI born MN guy here. I've lucked in to a few decent deals lately. Argentine cav carbine with crest, a beautiful tiger stripe 1903 m96, no4 mk1* long branch, a yugo "capture" k98 mis labeled as a turkish Mauser (from cabelas), and a k31. Except the m96 which came with a bayonet, all sub $500. There's still some reasonable deals out there. Thanks for the great content.

Lately I've found a few good deals centerfire systems did have k31 rifles for $399 but it was missing the magazine. As for finding deals in my neck of the woods most Enfields are around $600 and I bought a Russian captured 98k mauser for $650 and that's here in Kentucky

I just got a carcano cavalry carbine for my birthday. My friends said they got it from rti for around 200. It’s a bit beat up, but still has both sling mounts and some rifling. I’m surprised given that it’s production year is 1900. I’m excited to use at least half of the 20 rounds Ive scrounged up at the range.

I just bought a Swedish M96 from a coworker last week for $400. Dated 1907, it's numbers matching except cleaning rod and magazine floor plate. Sweet fiddleback stock and great bore. A nice used sling was $30 and a bayonet was $100. It came with (2) old boxes of Norma 156 gr bottlenose soft points, but I've ordered several boxes of S&B FMJ from my local gun shop for $22 per box. Thanks for the great video!

Swedes are a gem and my favorite for the past 30 years. And getting one with all matching numbers a great find.

I managed to get a beautiful 1908 Brazilian Mauser for $450 at my local gun show about 6 months ago. I believe it was made in 1910. Besides the marks from where it was dropped or sat on the ground, you would never guess the thing is 110+-years-old. Brazilian crest is in beautiful condition, only ever so slight faded in some spots. I love how it says, "United States of Brazil," which I believe they dropped way back in the 1960's. Everything is original, except the bolt. The stock is in impossibly great condition, I thought it had to be a replacement. Nope. Even still has "7MM" carved into it. Incredible shooter. Accurate, with very little recoil. It's become my second favorite gun, just below my Russian Makarov. I don't think you'll be able to find one in that condition for under $500, though. The guy I bought it from said to me straight up, he knew nothing about it. He made a trade with one of his friends, and the Mauser was included. He was just looking to get rid of it because he had no room for it. I would strongly advise any Mauser fan to buy one if the opportunity presents itself, so long as the price isn't outrageous, of course.

According to the fudd that frequents my local shows his argentine is worth 1200 dollars

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Oh why of course. "I know what I got sonny"

Thanks

Spanish 1916 and Chilean 1895 mausers are another models that are under 500. See them very often. Bought online two 1895s for 500, shipping included.

Thank ya Mike

My favorite surplus rifle has always been the Mosin m44. Partly because you used to be able to get them for under 100$ everywhere and if you know what you're looking for .you can't find a straighter shooting rifle. There's a reason the top snipers in history used the Mosin. Simo hayha the highest scoring sniper in history had access to mousers and Italian rifles and pretty much anything he wanted...and he still used his old iron sight Mosin. My second favorite used to be the 617 Argentine but those aren't really surplus anymore lol. I can't remember the last time I seen anyone get a bulk order. More than 20 years ago now.

Great info. I'm still on the fence about what to buy.

Picked up a 1906 mint condition Swedish Mauser about 2 years ago and I absolutely love it. Beautiful guns and they run just as smooth as they look.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Oh hell yeah.

Hey Mike! Back when I was a younger lad, I could buy SKS from the local B&M new in cosmoline for 59 bucks, the used SMLE's were around the same. Man how times have changed!

Great video Mike. We appreciate you. You need to make a video concerning wether a parts kit build is actually surplus. There are many variables and it can go both ways.

@uttermostvids631

Жыл бұрын

Honestly imo if it’s all original or mostly there you can say surplus or even refurbished

@seanbaker9796

Жыл бұрын

@@uttermostvids631 that's the way I'm leaning with it. But a lot of people have different opinions. The way I see it is if it has parts that are surplus then it can be collectable. The market over the past 20 or so years has proved this.

I have what used to be a Swedish Mauser, found it at a show and the guy had already changed the stock, stripped the barrel, milled the rear receiver and was missing a couple small parts. I paid a whopping 80 beans for it, just mounted a scope and fixed a few issues and it's my son's first hunting rifle, I may have snuck it out and shot an oryx with it also.

Great video. How about doing an alternate video on sporters? Sporters are under rated for collecting.

I finally got a m38 Turkish Mauser last year and it’s one of my bolt action rifles to shoot I over paid a little bit but I’m glad I have one

Some beautiful examples you have. The Argentine Mauser is near pristine. The Swedish Mausers are my favourite versions with the M38 short rifle at the top of my list.

My buddy got his Turk at a gun show for 199. Cleaned it up and it’s now his favorite milsurp. I’ll have to get one this year.

3 years ago I bought a Turkish Mauser for $185. I remember the first gun I ever bought in 2002 when I turned 18 was a Mosin Nagant which was $85 at the time at Big 5.

@Brzcastas

Жыл бұрын

Real inflation?

@michaelmarino1420

Жыл бұрын

@@Brzcastas yeah lol, and I remember my dad buying a Russian SKS in the early 90s for like $150 now those things are easily over $400.

I own tons of different surplus firearms. One of my favorites is my 6.5x50 Arisaka type 44. Unfortunately it’s been sporterized , what really sucks is that the chrysanthemum is intact. I’m sure it was done fairly early after the war and these guns weren’t really expected to be that collectible,,,who knows?? Dust cover is gone,which isn’t surprising, guess the Japanese got rid of them quickly too noisy,,turned down bolt handle, wood from the top has been made into design in the stock. Whoever did it did do a nice job but wished it was original. The person I bought it from had no idea what it was and I didn’t pay much for it. I’ve read that some were rechambered to 257 Roberts. Anyway, I still enjoy it. Really enjoy your channel Mike, definitely one of my favorites!

I'm going to keep commenting on every video you wear that urban cammo shirt in until you tell me who makes it and where I can get it lol 😆

I actually have an M93 Turk mauser that was upgraded in the 30's, that still has the magazine cutoff on the side. Hard to come across one of those. Think I paid 100 dollars of so for it about 2 or 3 months ago. Private sale.

In my experience Moison Nagants vary in quality but most are easily upgradable. You can float the barrel putting a thin shim between the action and the stock and carefully grinding out the hanguard and finished is not noticable. When buying one look at the muzzle as it was common to redrill the barrel to correct crown problems. There are aftermarket triggers but many are corrected by making sure the trigger screws are snug.

$375 is a reasonable estimate for the mosin. That what I paid for mine a few years ago. 1927, hex receiver and all matching. Great video!

@Arnuld15Governator

Жыл бұрын

I remember paying $130 around 2015 for a complete Mosin kit that included ammo pouches, bayonet, an oil can, bolt adjustment tool for the firing pin, etc. Wish I bought more if I know the prices were going to inflate to these crazy amounts.

@hquiller

Жыл бұрын

I paid 180 in 2016. Came with tools, bayonet, oil can and pouch. Bought it from SOG International.

@DieLuftwaffel

Жыл бұрын

99.9% of mosins are force matched by armories during refurb.

I scored a decent 1945 Turkish Mauser with a bent bolt for 125 at my local gun shop a few months ago

Swedish Mauser my favorite 2nd is Argentine great video as always

I love my Carcano carbine! Bought it in 2021, it’s a great shooter. PPU ammo is findable here in Florida

@captaincapitalis1205

Жыл бұрын

Can I ask where? I’m also in Florida and just got one for my birthday.

I have 3 of your picks. Swedish Mauser...love it. '35 Mosin and a Carcano like yours.

Glad to say that I've got a Mosin Nagant M91/30, a Carcano M91/38, a Carcano Cavalry Carbine (was my fathers from when he was a boy back in the 60's), and a Mauser M98. Love all of them. They shoot great, are very accurate, and a couple are rather hard hitting (the Mosin especially, it's been trimmed down to a 16 1/4" barrel). But the Carcano can be difficult to find ammo for (PPI is the only place I can find 6.5x52mm ammo for it), but recoil is rather mild and it is a pleasure to shoot.

@DieLuftwaffel

Жыл бұрын

You trimmed the barrel down? You monster.

@bullriderinwrangler1

Жыл бұрын

@@DieLuftwaffel Not at all, it was already trimmed down when I purchased it.

I wish any of these prices existed around here, the Mosin-Nagant maybe, but all the others are 600 minimum.

The Swedish Mauser is definitely my favorite for all the reasons given. The brass disc on the stock keeps track of the condition of the barrel and the firearm overall as they were meticulous in their upkeep Most Swedish Mausers are found with good metal due to the Swedes using a higher percentage of copper in their steel. The finest of the Mausers.

I like your selection. I used to have a Carcano good gun I have a Turkish 8mm masher good hunting and target gun,David Back.

I was lucky enough to get into milsurps at the best time, the mid-laten90's into the early 2000's. Back then, we had $29 M38 Turkish Mausers, $39 Mosin 91/30, $69-99 Swede Model 96, various 8mm Mausers less than $250, M1 Carbines for less than $300 unless it was a desirable manufacturer like Winchester or Rock-Ola. Then there was the ammo. I REALLY miss this. 8mm Turkish Mauser was $79/1440 rounds, Russian 7.62x39 $55/1000, Russian steel case .223 $79/1000, and even brass case, boxer primed, non corrosive 7.62x51 NATO made in Venezuela by CAVIM was $150/1000. And the best part? All these prices included shipping! I'm far from rich, but I wish I had the money I have now back then!

I skipped on a Argentine Mauser years ago, kicking myself for not getting it. The wood was beautiful. I just bought a Ballester Molina and well.. Guess I need a rifle to go along with it.

Just noticed the cleaning rod at the end of your example of the M38 looks a bit different to mine. Perhaps the rearmament of the 1903s saw some get new rods and others not? Now I’m self conscious about my rod.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Everyone's self conscious about their rod.

Ive own a turkish mauser for several years , and its a great shooter . I've used it deer hunting and gotten a lot deer with it .

Hey Mike I was inspired by a video a ways back on you channel about yugoslavian mausers. I'm looking at an M24/47, but instead of "Preduzece 44" on the side of the action, it's stamped with what looks like "3ABOD 44". Any thoughts? How could I post a pic of the stamping?

The Argentine Mauser is nice for hunters that reload .. because they can run regular. 30 cal bullets just perfectly and will feed any shape of bullet due to its magazine design

@rambler2885

Жыл бұрын

A .30 bullet would be to small would let gas by it and also not engage the rifling

Got a Turkish M38 as my 2nd gun around Christmas have yet too shoot it tho I like it alot

Sounds good Mike

I picked up a swedish 1896 last month. It's absolutely beautiful, made by Mauser. Marked Mauser Oberndorf, 1899. I can't wait to take it out and shoot it with my Husqvarna M38!

i’m glad i picked up a turk mauser it’s a blast to shoot and i have something to use my all the 8mm i picked up lmao

I bought my Turkish Mauser for $280 and I have yet to shoot it but the stock is really good besides 3 cracks in the stock, the bore is also pretty good. A lot of life left in the rifle.

Wish I could find a 91-30 for that price here. They're running 600+ for run of the mill here. Occasionally find a small shop with one sub 500

I’m always a little confused when Mike cites prices. For example, when he says that Swedish Mausers are 350-400 dollars, where is he finding that deal? In person? P2P sales? Asking not because I think he’s wrong but because I wanna find those deals lol.

@mattnw42

Жыл бұрын

I have seen the M96 that low, the M38s and the carbines, however....

@badboybootz8

Жыл бұрын

It's simply not true. I've looked everywhere

I would say the gewehr 88s can also be found for 3-500 bucks and as a bonus they're antiques

M96 Swedish Mauser is a very nice firing rifle. The example on the video was a little rough looking compared to what you usually see in the market.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I like it because I don't feel bad if it gets beat up out on the range or hunting.

@briantracy5529

Жыл бұрын

@@MikeB128 no offense of course. I’m the same way. They don’t have to be perfect to be fun.

Got my vz 24 for 450 unmodified made in 1927 with a matching stock

Hey I just found a k.kale mauser on gunbroker kinda impulse bought it for 260 dollars lol... it's missing the barrel bands and upper handgaurd any sources that you know of that would have those parts?? Or any knowledge on what military stocks a k.kale m38 would fit in?

I have thos old timer at a gunshow that always has insane prices. He has mosins just 91/30s nothing special ww2 run of the mill rifles for $700 but he had an egyptian Rasheed for $350 a Yugoslavia sks for $300 an all matching portuguese contract mauser k98 for $500 and fn49s for $600 each...... deals can be sound just gotta hunt. Good video Mike just wanted to add my experience

Just got a nice Argentine 1891 for 300 bucks, nice bore, great exterior condition!

Solid choices for sure, I picked up a Carcano 91/28 TS for myself and am quite happy with it. But lets say I want a Type 38 Arisaka carbine now, does anyone know where to look for one for a reasonable price without having to trudge through "I know what I got" on gunbroker?

My grandpa had a 1891 argentine mauser it was pristine except for the stock was broke. Everything else was excellent. My mom sold it and im not happy about it

Could you do a vid on the different emblems on Stalhiem helmets of the German Army /police units ?

I have an argentine mauser and they are good rifles, but the ammunition has recently been very expensive if you can find it at all. Nearly all 7.65 x 53 Argentine is out of stock unfortunately. But if you know where to buy some ammo, please let me know.

I've heard rumors and talks of Ethiopia opening up their surplus stockpiles to the markets. I may be wrong but I've heard a lot of people getting their hands on Italian Papal breachloads. Don't think they'll come on the markets as cheap as the Mosins did or the Carcanos, but really cool and definitely worth a pickup if you are a collector.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

They already opened it up. 99% of it is worn out trash wall hangers

I recently saw an M96 at a local gun show for $800 ! Reckon I need to find happier venues, huh ?!

what's the difference between the swedish m96 and the turkish m38? Other than caliber, they look really similar. I have a turkish m38 and was looking at this video for any "ideas" on what to get next and I see the swedish mausers pop up occasionally, they just look so similar I'm confused at trying to convince myself on getting one (although I am definitely teetering, which is why I'm asking for any excuse to get one XD )

Great list - thank you!

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Where can you find Swedish and Argentine mausers for those prices?

What do you think about the German 8 mm mauser

I just gotta find where to get one of those Mosins now

Yugoslavia m48s are nice as well and can be picked up relatively cheap.

I've just gotten into collecting the past 4 years since my father died. I've yet to see any M1 Grand (of course I don't really know the years or quality) for less than $900

Is there recommended sites to find rifles in these price ranges?

I got a sporterized 1891 argentine mauser carbine for 330 dollars, it's a beautiful gun that works well but the ammo is scarce so I kind of regret buying it due to lack of ammo I hope I can find somewhere to get the ammo. If anybody knows where to get some ammo please tell me. Edit: sportsman's warehouse recently restocked their ammo and I bought some, I've seen other places that say they sell the ammo for $15-$20 but they don't have it in stock and how legit those sites is questionable, so buying it for 28 bucks is good for now.

The Argentine Mauser is a fantastic pick.

Paid about 330 for my Turk m38 aska something but it’s pretty ok shoots fine bores good it’s a little beat up but it’s fine yknow I see em in a few spots highest o saw was 500 and that one was in mint condition with matching parts so idk but those guys also had a arisaka for 700 which was uh yea a bit much

Hey Mike would you know any places online to find 7.65x53 Argentine ammo? I'd love to have more of it and enjoy my Argentines more. Would appreciate any tips from anyone else here as well👍

@matthewmitchell2934

Жыл бұрын

I think Aimsurplus just got a shipment in. $29.95 for a 20 round box

I don’t have an Argentine or the Swede . I do have 6 different Mosin’s , 9 for the Carcano & 2 Turkish , with a very nice 88-05 Commission Rifle taken out of service & sent to Turkey

If you can find a 1903 pattern Turk Mauser, buy it. its German made, best shooting Mauser I've ever owned(I've had dozens over the years).

Also, are we ever going to get PPU milsurp calibers in large quantities imported? It’s still hard to find and so expensive now

@mattnw42

Жыл бұрын

I think that is dependant on the resolution of the current geopolitical situation

@mattnw42

Жыл бұрын

The PPu 7.5,54mm MAS and 8mm Lebel is unobtainium right now

@marksheen4873

Жыл бұрын

@@mattnw42 yes nearly everything is hard to find and if you do it’s $25-30 per box for PPU which makes me just not want to shoot :(

“If you can get it to run right” does not give me any faith in the Carncono especially since it’s a bolt action. Shouldn’t take much effort at all to make a bolt action run well.

When it comes to barrels I only care about rust, pitting, and erosion. I don't give a shit how dark the bores are. I've also have had great accuracy out of rifles with dark bores.

@MikeB128

Жыл бұрын

Same.

Went to a huge gun show last week and about crapped myself when I saw the prices. Mosins for 800 mausers for 900 enfields for 1000. You could buy a brand new ar cheaper than the old surplus stuff.

I can’t wait for the 2024 list

Got the Carcano (40 bucks) carbine with no folding bayonet, got the Mosin's one is said to be a Dragoon 1900 date with the double headed eagle(80 bucks), another 1936 dated (60 bucks), the third is a carbine with folding bayonet made in China (110 bucks) because hard to find a Russian made one and the story was a green Beret brought it home from Vietnam after popping a VC who was carrying it (no paper work to prove it though). got two Turkish Mausers in the two different types in original cal, got both with the same price 120 bucks all together, but had to buy a bolt for one for a hundred with bayonet. all rifles are in good condition and not refurbished!

@dragdragon23

9 ай бұрын

Prices are a lot higher here in Hoosierville of the modern times, always expect to at least 50 percent more or higher for all firearms and ammo.

em nuggets will NEVER have collector value.. My favorite video you do Mike and glad you give current prices !