We're super stoked to announce that we are now partnering with @bikesonline! They are a distributer for two of the bikes on this list; the Marin San Quentin 1 and the Polygon Xtrada 7. If you're interested in purchasing either of these bikes, doing so through the affiliate like below will help support our channel. Thanks! 2023 Marin San Quentin 1: bikesonline-usa.sjv.io/Y9DvQq 2022 Polygon Xtrada 7: bikesonline-usa.sjv.io/5gaD6D

@czechnolike

Жыл бұрын

Guess they will have to send you some more demo bikes!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

You know it!! And you’ll find all those reviews here 🤙

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nope! It comes with an SR Suntour XCR 32 air 👌

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I’m just going off of the spec list on Polygon’s website, which you can look at here: www.polygonbikes.com/xtrada-7/ I’m pretty new to working with bikesonline.com, so I couldn’t tell you why/if they’re swapping OEM parts

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, sorry for the misinformation!

My first hardtail cost me £430 and I didn't understand why I would need to spend more than that on a bike. Fast forward to a year later when I rode my first over £1000 hardtail and I thought "oh wow, now I understand why people spend so much on these things". The difference was truly night and day.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

It really is! Sometimes I wish I had never had the chance to taste the difference lol 😂

@davidperry7266

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Yeah my bank account would be healthier if I hadn't. Oh well this way I have better bikes so I call that a win.😎

@Charlvdwalt073

Жыл бұрын

😂my wife also dont understand,she wil stil learn😊

I'm broke and ride pretty hard, I bought the Marin Bobcat Trail 5 used in brand new condition in my size and It's been pretty good. Didn't get to test it on the trails, but it's amazing for urban freeride and some jumps

This is one of only a couple videos I’ve seen that talks about the trail se. It’s a surprisingly fun bike to ride. I bought mine about 2 years back and have upgraded most of the bike now just because I enjoy it so much, and as you noted..upgrades are easy. Now it’s not just fun, but light. Stock it was 32lbs, and I need to check again after my last set of updates but I’m betting it’s about 25lbs now.

Great insights thanks!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

For sure 🤙🤙

Great Video Josh, thanks for repping the hardtail👑

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Always 🤘 Thank you man!

Enjoyed the vids as we’re always looking for bikes for the kids. RSD sticker, you up here in Canada?

Thanks for the list. I was torn on whether I wanted to get the Polygon and you sold me.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! It would do me a huge favor if you buy it from this link, as I’ll get small kick back from Bikes Online (same price for you): bikesonline-usa.sjv.io/5gaD6D

Great review; with bikes that are featured on our shortlist while looking for something for my wife. For those watching, who are in Canada, Polygon bikes can be bought at MEC stores. They just started stocking them late last year.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Right on! Thanks for sharing!

Bro I just bought a Cannondale Trail SE 4 for $819!!! I couldn’t find a reason not to for that price. This in my first MTB and with all the research I’ve done that seems like a steal to me. Not sure why more people aren’t talking about that sale!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Killer deal man 🤙🤙 I think you’ll love it!

Last year I bought a trek marlin 8 2022 2nd gen. Its the Best bike ive ever riden and I upgraded it and now its great.but the canondale and the polygon look realy cool too and cheaper than my marlin

Super rad video!!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you man! Which one would you buy?

@calvinkirchhoff971

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy San Quentin 3 all day🤩

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Dido 🤘🤘

Awesome, I enjoyed your video. I'm thinking about buying a Cannondale Trail 7.1, and I am thinking about joining a club to go on a group ride every now and then. Right now I am riding a Cannondale F400 from the 90's, with a slightly bent front wheel, a frame that is one size too big, a headshok that has been permanently locked solid, and I've only ever ridden by myself. Looks like a great hobby to take up. Thanks.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

4 ай бұрын

Heck yeah, welcome!

I having been following this guy for a while. I love about your recommendation for bikes based on the criteria. Criteria is important. Know about your criteria 🤘. I would like to see hardtails Under $1500. A lot of options on that category tho

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Sujan! Man that would be a hard one, so many good bikes in that price range!

Charl south Africa Thank You for video APPRECIATE it

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Right on man, thank you for letting me know 🤙

Hello Good Day! I am a hardtail user ever since. I love watching your content every time. Can you make a review on DARTMOOR HORNET hardtail frame? I think this frame is underrated in some countries but here in the Philippines, it is the go-to hardtail frame for enduro and trail riding. It is also the most popular enduro hardtail frame. I hope this will get to you and make a good content about this. Thank you in advance.

Love my giant talon 1 but that polygon looks great …

Canyon bikes I think it's great bang for the buck and you'll get some stellar components for $600-$800.

Epik 🤘👍

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🤙🤙

I still run a scott aspect the frames are awesome for the money, never skipped a beat. I did run a talon 3 from 2017 till 2022 and that was really reliable the stock parts were solid for the £625 i paid, was 1 of the last of the 30speeds to

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nice!!

@davt8615

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy cheers bro got stolen! Last of the 30s man that thing moved for a 650b it fucking had it son! Me been a 6ft5 neanderthal the scott fits lovely xxl on 29s, full shimano setup it's nice bro for the paper

@mrmohawk6205

4 ай бұрын

I've been looking at the Aspect. Have you tried upgrading it at all? I'm thinking 120 mm fork and wider tyres?

I went for the used market and just got a 2018 Norco Fluid HT 2 for $750 CAD ($550 USD). Nice that it has a dropper post and front air suspension for that year. If I was shopping new, the best I could have gotten was a Norco Storm 5 or a Trek Marlin 4 which are both considerably worse builds. Shop around in the used market folks! don't have to buy new if you're unsure what you're getting yourself into with the bike life

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Killer deal, nice bike man! I’m thinking of making a “5 tips when buying used bikes” video, most of my bikes have been bought used, it’s a great way to go!

@SleepyWolvy

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Mind you that was $750 CAD so I guess like $550ish USD. I did the same thing, looked up a couple quick vids before I left on what to look for when testing out a used bike (brakes, front/ rear tire wobble, gear shift, dmg to frame, chain, tire tread, when/ what the last maintenance covered). These things really help and would be a huge asset vid to have on your channel to compliment this vid. Please do that! I will have to buy new tires but this should get me riding for about half a season I hope. Cheers!

Whattabout acessories mounting points like parrier racks, water bottles, kickstand etc. More important in this price bracket as many will use in town or commuting.

What about the superior xp 919? Never heard of the brand before but speced well

13:25 I had to do a double take because that looks exactly like a polygon xtrada, I was looking at.

When it comes to wheels, you can always by thru axles with a conversion kits for a QR axle. I bought a set of Bontrager Line Comp 30 wheels, did that with the back wheel and it works great. Plus, those wheels come with a Bontrager hub with 108 points of engagement. I ended up spending a little over $350 for the set, conversion kit included.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

7 ай бұрын

I love those Line hubs, some of the best for your money! I used a generic conversion on an older bike of mine and to be honest it felt a bit sketchy, so I always advise people looking to get a new bike to go for an option with modern standards whenever price allows

@dvs620

7 ай бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I added them to an entry level bike I bought on Offerup. 2019 GT Avalanche with dropouts. The way I understand it, it's not as strong as a thru axle, but stronger than a QR axle. I don't ride gnarly stuff, but I've hit my fair share of rocks, roots, curbs and small jumps and they feel perfectly stable. I agree though, for the price, they're pretty damn good.

Sorry, going to buy my first bike. What would i feel different in between 29 wheels and 27.5 wheels. I will be doing asphalt ,some gravel and some trail. Nothomg very radical.

What do you think of the Scott Aspect? I'm looking a decent hardtail to go on trails and light downhill when my main bike needs maintenance. Something for under 1000 USD preferably.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

4 ай бұрын

It’s a solid bike, and if you find a great deal go for it! Otherwise I’d say the bikes in this video offer a bit better value in terms of part spec, frame features, geometry, etc

I got my first MTB recently (Superior XP 939) and there's a cheaper version (Superior XP 909) that has the same frame and decent parts, currently often discounted, which hits around the $1000 mark. I was very skeptical about the brand at first (it's a Czech brand, seems to lack in the marketing department) but damn, the parts were decent spec and the weight of the whole bike is around 11.8 kilograms which I could not get anywhere close with other aluminum frames and even the cheapest carbon bikes were heavier.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome man! Sounds like you found a rad deal 🤙

I wish someone would make a vid breaking down the differences between a $200-$300 Walmart MTB, a “good value” under $1K MTB and a $5-7k MTB. It seems a bike only has a limited amount of components, they all get you from point A to B, while the prices vary drastically but look the same to a person with an untrained eye.

Do you have any opinions on the bikes that retail at REI? They told me that Salsa Habit HT3 is comparable to the Trek Roscoe 6.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

3 ай бұрын

Probably a Cannondale Habit HT 3. I actually have a full video on that bike, check it out here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKSMlahtnKi_iNI.htmlsi=ckeNYH_5ak2bK3DR

Went to a bike shop today,seen all kinds of mountain bikes around 600 or less and they were trek and fujis.i don't have any use for those fragile carbon frame bikes,I watched enough videos on them.now carbon works better for road bikes in the right climate.

i'd like to know why rocky mountain and marin don't use the wider range advent cassette. you can get a 46-11. but do my eyes decieve me, or does the marin have a bolt on crank? I loved my Xtrada. but the XCR fork is NOT boost. just standard 100mm

Curious on your thoughts for the Poseidon Norton. Going for $999, 65 degree head tube, 140mm travel fork.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Looks pretty awesome! I’m a big fan of @Spindatt who helped design it, check out his channel to learn more about it!

You can build the wheel you want from your stock hubs, drop out or not.

Hello, the number one bike you recommended is the 7. Can a larger chain ring be used, like maybe 38 or a little bit larger? 06/225/24

Yeah, I'm saving my $ for a Polygon Xtrada 7.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nice, definitely a rad bike!! Buy it from the link in the description if you can, as that will help out our channel!

My First hardtail was a Voodoo Bantu 2018 mdl for £639 from that I bought a Boardman for £1050 and the difference for me was quite disturbing.

@HighlanderNorth1

10 ай бұрын

What do you mean by the difference between those 2 bikes was disturbing?

bikes from bikes online in Australia come with all the tools needed to assemble the bike even a touque metre

Ragley Marley 2.0 on chain reaction cycles, $990.00 also Voodoo Wazooo, I think with sipping $952.00.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

11 ай бұрын

Great deals, thanks for sharing!!

Hi. Been seriously contemplating between the Xtrada 7 and the new Giant Fathom 2 (as its on sale). Any thoughts on which is better. Both upgradable in the future. Both good specs. Fathom has the dropper post since its a bit more expensive.. Thanks.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

The Fathom has a bit more progressive geometry (slacker head tube, lower BB, longer reach). I’d say if you want more of a trail bike go with the Fathom, or the Xxtrada 7 for more of an XC bike

@gbj6581

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy okay cool. That makes sense. Thanks.

I’m trying to decide between the talon and Rocky Mountain soul 20. I’m not sure which one is more upgradable. Thoughts?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

I’d go with the Rocky Mountain, the geometry on that bike is a bit more in line with a higher end hardtail

If you can afford a little over 1000, the Voodoo Bizango Pro is the best hardtail. Very solid parts for the price. Very hard to find though.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I’ve heard a few people talk about this bike, definitely looks like a great bargain if you’re in the UK!

@SE-hi3my

Жыл бұрын

Got one about six months ago. Although it’s my first hardtail I love this bike. I think sometimes we’re prone to think we need to spend big to get high quality, but the Bizango is a great buy. In my opinion 😊

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

You’re speaking my language haha! I work at a pretty bougie bike shop where people think any bike under $5,000 is garbage 😖 Then we got on group rides and I smoke them on a $2,000 hardtail lol

waiting for my 2023 San Quentin 1. should arrive next week

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nice, you’re gonna love it!!

@renyrga5785

Жыл бұрын

​@@ridingwithjoshandwendy well......I ended up with the 2023 SQ2 (i keep 'em forever and never sell so the frame is better for long term). Like the colour more than the tan sq1 and at this price, i wanted thru axle honestly.....the fork should've been at least last year's model but whatever, when it will be time , i'll change it to an entry air fork.....Now time to have some fun! :)

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Right on! Ya, good call with the 2 and the through axel. I think the SQ2 is definitely worth the extra $500

@RomanMarasco

5 ай бұрын

Hey I currently have a 2021 talon 2 and I haaate it, it's just soo big for me. I casually ride with my gf and want to start riding trail. Could I still get away with the sq1 as an all arounder? My lbs is a marin dealer so readily available parts

@RomanMarasco

5 ай бұрын

Hey I currently have a 2021 talon 2 and I haaate it, it's just soo big for me. I casually ride with my gf and want to start riding trail. Could I still get away with the sq1 as an all arounder? My lbs is a marin dealer so readily available parts

I have does Clarks 2 piston hydraulic brakes near a year and can say are awesome for the price, it uses the same G label pads as the Shimano Deore(it does have space for the ice tech pads) the power is really impressive they have a little bit of progresión but still keeping that strong bite feeling The braking force is really great something like a mt400 brakes but you can make it better changing the pads but even the stock ones are really great

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Oh awesome!! Thanks for sharing Nelson 🤙

What are your thoughts on the Giant Talon 1 29 vs the Specialized fuse 27.5? The specialized seems to be more nimble, but my question is more about the components (forks, wheel, brakes etc..) Is the fuse worth the extra $500? Appreciate your time.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

3 ай бұрын

To be honest you’re paying for the S on the headtube haha. The Talon 1 is an awesome bike! But yes, if you want the nimble feel of 27.5 wheels Giant won’t be the ticket

I know the focus here is on bikes under $1k but for people who'd be willing to spend a little more, Wiggle & CRC are currently offering the 2022 Ragley Marley 1.0 for $1230. Not sure if there's a sweeter deal anywhere for the $$ right now. Tempted to buy one myself even though I just bought a bike a couple months ago and don't really need another one LOL. Hard to pass it up at that price.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Definitely a killer deal, the Marley is a rad bike!! Thanks for sharing 🤙

@ivrsn7949

Жыл бұрын

That bike so good ? 989 right now from 1599 ,, its my First hardtail bike.,

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

It’s super good, but it haha!!

Thoughts on the Cannondale Trail 7.1?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

3 ай бұрын

Not bad for the price! But you’d likely want to make some upgrades relatively on (drivetrain, stronger brakes, air sprung fork)

I still have my old skool talon stock 3X9 Shimano set up with the hydraulic disc brakes still in great condition 💪 I took it in for a tune-up & they were like man you take good care of this 🚲💨. My 🐕 decided to chew up the brake cable 🤦

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Bummer about the dog, but way to go keeping that bike in great condition 🤙

@honda116969

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy thanks for the video and pricing all these out Nice work & a lot of research on your part! I would like to get the updated version but if mines working I'm not going to trade it up lol

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely man, if it’s not broke don’t fix it 🤙

Well, I just bought a Marin bobcat trail 5. My first real bike, I hope I'm going to enjoy the ride. By the way, I upgraded the pedals and grip. 😂🎉 Let's ride.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy it 🤙🤙

I have had this Xtrada 7 for a year now. I’m 6’2” and 245lbs. I live in the pineywoods of East Texas and mostly ride single track switchbacks in sandy loam and oak roots. I also ride the hills of Austin, TX about once a month. Even spent some time at Slaughter Pen in Bentonville. This bike has healed up incredibly on some chunky downhill stuff! I have upgraded the tires & gone tubeless. Also the bars were a little flat for me so I have some PNW bars. Added a dropper post. The Deore 12 speed is flawless and works great but I needed it for another bike so I slapped a Shimano XT shifter & mec on the Polygon. Did it need all these upgrades, no. It’s plenty capable as is new. These things were to suite my riding style. Most of my buddies ride hardtails. It’s not even a value thing, just a bike preference on efficiency & maintenance. My brother in law rides a Specialized 10K carbon hardtail & a Banshee Paradox HT. My son rides a 15K Moots Mountaineer titanium soft tail. None of us are beginners, it’s just our preference. Never assume someone’s a beginner because they are on a HT. They may smoke you! I have personally been on a bike since 1976!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience on the bike with our viewers! Glad you’ve had such great success with the bike, I hope to try one out soon!!

@GavrielFleischer

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about buying this bike. There are 3 "week" points in the spec according to reviews and I'd like to hear your opinion about these: 1. the SunTour XCR32 fork. Some say it's so bad (leaks, and doesn't do the job) that it's not worth to buy this bike, some (especially those who are coming from a department store bike) are OK with it. 2. The 2.25" tires are kind of on the small side. How much bigger tires can be fitted on the bike? 3. almost all other bikes in this price range have 180mm front rotor. How much of a disadvantage is that this has only 160mm?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, for the price your not gonna find a better fork, just about everything under $1,000 will be coil sprung. The tires are definitely on the XC side of the spectrum, but will work for more general trail riding too. Polygon doesn’t say on their site but in the pictures it looks like there’s plenty of clearance, I’d guess you could run a 2.4”. I don’t think you’ll notice the smaller rotors, honestly all the brakes on these value bikes leave a bit to be desired when things get steep and fast. That said a buying a bigger rotor is only about $50 bucks and super easy to install yourself!

@GavrielFleischer

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy I found another review since: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5an1tSsm7KoYtI.html He tried the 2.4" tires and it's ok for the back but only left a tiny clearance in the fork so he recommends not going over 2.3".

@colbyntx8578

Жыл бұрын

@@GavrielFleischer the bike can take up to a 2.6 tire. I’m running Maxxis 2.4 &2.5 with no problems. It is a cheap air fork but works alright. Mines over a year old and used extensively and never had leaking problems. I did put a set 180 SLX rotors but honestly, the 160’s were fine for most I do. It’s the best spec for under $1000 you’re going to find.

trek marin 8 gen 3 is a good bike? from my country i can buy it under 1000 euro, seems a good deal, or just better save up to buy other bike

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Ya, it’ll definitely get the job done 🤙

i liked polygon xtrada 7 my dream)

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nice 🤙🤙

I've owned and purchased more than a dozen quality mtn bikes..but never in Arizona. I'm ready to do so again but the dealers just do not seem to have knowledgeable or patient sales staffs. So, I'll probably get in vehicle and drive the 800 miles to SF area to see real bicycle shop people.

Marin Q 1 vs Polygon Xtrada 7 ? Wich one is better

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

2 ай бұрын

Very different bikes! Get the SQ1 if most of your riding is on steep, rocky trails or jumps and the Xtrada 7 if you’re on more rolling terrain or prioritize climbing speed

#1 for me is Trek Marlin 6 gen 3 , woulda been the Polygon Xtrada 7 if it wasnt for the color

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

Bummer that the Marlin doesn't have a through axel...

canyon stoic 2-3 is the best bike every for under 1k pounds

what do u think abt the canyon stioc 2

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Great bike! You’ll probably want to replace some of the components on there (brakes, fork, seat post) down the road, but you’ll have a great frame to bolt your upgrades to

@para_165

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy okay thanks for the information

Is the xtrada 5 decent for somebody on a tight budget?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

If you can afford the 7 it's a big upgrade! But yes, definitely still a good value for the price. And if you buy it through our affiliate link on BikesOnline we'll get a small commission! www.bikesonline.com/2023-polygon-xtrada-5-hardtail-mountain-bike

Most of the bikes shown in the video are unfortunately not for sale in Ukraine. I'm a beginner, so I don't know much, but I like the Merida big trail 200 and 400, I don't know if it's worth buying or not. There's aggressive frame geometry, thru axle front and rear, hydraulic brakes, etc.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Never ridden one, but they definitely look like a rad bike and great value! Praying for your country regularly, stay safe 🤙

@rplanet_ua

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy Thanks, I will definitely buy it)

I've been riding a hybrid and realized I ride too aggressive and should have gotten hardtail mtb

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

They're some of the most versatile bikes!

There’s actually a canyon that’s $600 right now

Do you have a list for someone that is 6'6"?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

I sadly don’t, I’d have to do some shopping for brands that sell an XXL. Check out Specialized, they make a size called S6 which is basically their XXL, but it’s only offered on some models

And Fuji Nevada?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

5 ай бұрын

Definitely a rad little bike too!

Hey i would recommend checking the Voodoo Bizango Pro from Halfords if your in the uk the spec is 130mm Rockshox 35 gold forks 12 speed shimano deore groupset shimano mt400 brakes front and rear through axels and currently selling for £855 down from £950 crazy value for money

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 🤙 Definitely quite a bargain for the spec you’re getting at that price!

@David.Maughan

Жыл бұрын

Have you looked at the spec of the Voodoo Bizango Carbon Pro? I'm seriously considering it but I'm a novice and don't know if it's a good spec for the price.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

It’s pretty dang good for the price! The frame geometry, which is more important in my opinion, looks solid too.

How is anything outdated when people upgrade old 90s MTB 26 explain,lot of these bikes won't be around in the next decade

I can't believe Giant downgraded the Talons. I have a 2019 Talon 2 29 and the Liv equivalent....they both came Tubeless, from the store.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Really?! I don’t think these do; but that’s just I for from the website. There’s a chance that individual Giant retailers may set the bikes up that way in shop though!

@phillk6751

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy nope, they used to come with Maxxis Tubeless Ready tires and Tubeless ready wheels, and some shops set them up tubeless out the door since at that point it was about the same amount of $ to throw in tubeless valves and sealant as it was to throw tubes in. They definitely downgraded the tires, probably in exchange for other components as opposed to what they had 2 years ago in their $750 Talon

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Ah bummer man!

It went together easily in less than an hour. kzread.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

Probably not, I believe the weight limit on most mountain bike components is about 350 lbs

You forgot the Canyon Stoic 2!!

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Great bike! But not under $1,000 😕 I recently did a video with the Stoic 4, check it out here! kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZ2VqJV9Za3cd6Q.html

You can throw a 130 travel fork on the front of that polygon and you have a nice rowdy bike to bomb through the woods.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Very true!!

@journeyman6752

Жыл бұрын

120 isn't enough??

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Depends on what your riding!

Real problem is that 1-2k range. It feels like there’s nothing in the middle, either 1700+ or back down to 1k.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Check out the Marin San Quentin 2, Rocky Mountain Growler 20, both dialed, dropper equipped, wide range drivetrains, with air sprung forks for around $1,500!

The Talon's rims are tubeless compatible.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insight! Most forums I’ve found have said that the GX03V aren’t, sounds like you’ve had success with them though?

@slide_drexler

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy my 2021 talon 4 is set up tubeless, ghetto style. The stock rims, Gorilla tape & $1 sealant. 😁

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Haha heck ya, glad it’s holding up for you 🤙🤙

BTW, Giant's retail price on the Talon 1 is $900 not $990. Gonna throw another Giant comment. The Rocky Mountain on sale is speced very similar to a Talon 2 which retails at $730 every day. Yes, I do work for a Giant dealer. The Polygon sounds great. If you are a competent mechanic.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

BB height is 320mm. Here's a link to the geo chart rsdbikes.com/middlechild-v2-aluminum/

@dennisdose5697

10 ай бұрын

@ridingwithjoshandwendy Not sure what you are referencing this for. Doesn't seem to relate to my comment. 🤔

Why didn't you mention the Trek Marlin 6 2023 gen 3? It seems like it has a better spec than this Polygon Xtrada 7...

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nope, the Marlin 6 has a coil fork and 10 speed deore drivetrain, as opposed to the Xtrada 7 with an air fork and 12 speed deore drivetrain. The Trek also has QR dropouts whereas the Polygon has through axels. You’re typically not going to find the best value from big name brands like Trek and Specialized, your honestly just paying for the badge haha

@ZZCheetahZZ

Жыл бұрын

@ridingwithjoshandwendy ok, since it's over my budget anyways.. What if I go for the Xtrada 6 vs Marlin 6 gen 3? Is it still a better choice (xtrada 6) ?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Those two are a bit more similar in spec. The Trek is on sale right now too I believe, which puts the prices more similar. I think both would be good options, but if you are able to save up a bit more I think the Xtrada 7 is significantly better

@ZZCheetahZZ

Жыл бұрын

@ridingwithjoshandwendy can't do it since the Xtrada 7 costs $ 1130 around here, and they don't have size M in stock. So I guess the Xtrada 6 is the next best thing.. Thanks for your help with this 🙏😊

Marin bobcat trail 4 or polygon xtrada 5.....which is better ?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

They’re both super similar; really the only difference is that the Marin has a 1X drivetrain, which is more in line with most modern mountain bikes, so I’d recommend going with that. If you purchase it from my affiliate link with bikes online I’d really appreciate it! I get a small commission on the sale, but the cost is the same for you. bikesonline-usa.sjv.io/JzK217

@shivamhazarika9541

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy ok. But i see bobcat series has straight head tube and xtrada series has tapered head tube....does it make any major difference.....

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily; you would just need to purchase a new headset (roughly $50) if/when you choose to upgrade your fork to one with a tapered steerer tube. It’s called a ZS44/EC44. A lot of high end hardtails have straight head tubes like this as well, so a quick google search should show you plenty of examples of what I’m taking about

@shivamhazarika9541

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy ok. Thanks for your suggestion. Can you share a buy link for conversion so that i can understand much better

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Sure! It’s not exactly a conversion, just a different type of headset. This is the one I have on my RSD Middlechild with the same headtube as yours: Cane Creek 40 ZS44/28.6 EC44/40 Headset Black a.co/d/8sQQVHl

your bikes online links dont work. might wanna fix that

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the catch!

Good rundown but hard to listen to without a proper mic.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

10 ай бұрын

Thank you man! Ya, running on a tight (read zero lol) budget and filming on iPhone, maybe throw some money into it some day but for now I'd rather buy bikes

No Ragleys?

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Not for under a grand haha!

Air forks are lighter, but overrated, because people don't know how to tune a spring fork. Springs are hard to beat if you know how to tune them. 12 speeds are over rated as the range (from top to bottom), is about the same as a 10 speed. Both will get killed for higher speeds of a 3 chain ring crank from the 90's. Top speed from a single chain ring is pathetic.

All these bikes are nice but being a 1 or few under 1k smh just call the 1k bike the taxes will bring it over that anyway. Oh and thanks for the info on them I appreciate it have a day

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely man! And sadly that 1K price point is such an industry cut off, brands strive to get bikes just under it, which is why those bikes in the $900-$1000 range are so competitive and usually MUCH better speced than bikes that are just $100-$200 cheaper

Do you guys not count sales tax lol

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

8 ай бұрын

Nope, varies way too much. We don't even have sales tax here in Oregon!

So basically mountain biking is yet another hobby only for people with money.

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Nope! It’s cheaper than the newest x box, a TV subscription, or eating out weekly. It’s all about priorities haha

whut up all the hype on the dropper post //dont see how people ride wth the seat post 10 feet in the air,,,, been riding 50 plus years think they are a fad never used one never will 29 in 2020 gt avalanche with my seat slammed to the bottom

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

9 ай бұрын

Having your seat up helps with efficiency on the climbs, and lowering it helps with mobility on the descents

@richardrawlings6234

9 ай бұрын

thankyou@@ridingwithjoshandwendy

To bad the polygon only has a 27.2 mm seat post.

Good luck getting either in the US now but the entry level Nukeproof Scout and Vitus Sentier were >1000$ and much better deals than everything presented here

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

4 ай бұрын

I know right?! Such a huge bummer!

Vitus Sentier 27 vr???

@ridingwithjoshandwendy

Жыл бұрын

Great bike! But not under $1,000

@wagwanyoulicclepussyclart

Жыл бұрын

@@ridingwithjoshandwendy its going for £619.99 on chain reaction cycles at the moment so roughly 796.04 usd

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