Don’t forget Ford Australia supplied most of the Cleveland power for the De Tomaso Pantera apart from the first few as the USA decided to stay with the Windsor and Australia built the Cleveland Geelong until 1984. & also Australia’s Bolwell Nagari was Cleveland powered both 302 & 351’s.

BARRA IS THE BEST ‼️‼️

@WntD-Romr

2 жыл бұрын

Oh no its 1 of u ppl

@frankrenda2519

2 жыл бұрын

glorified crossflow

@Flying_GC

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankrenda2519 is that meant to be an insult? I'll remind the next LS panzy he was beaten by a cross flow next time.

@frankrenda2519

2 жыл бұрын

@@Flying_GC fact is the ls has the cubic inches over the barra and is way faster on the quarter compare the best turbo ls time to the barra and your not even close.and i would rather make 3000 hp out of an ls. something the barra cannot do

@grimreaperscreed5938

2 жыл бұрын

Nah the 2jz80 engine would shit all over those crappy Ford junk..

Ok I agree with everything except Barra being 1st as I've owned a 302 Windsor el xr8 320rwhp and a 351 clevo xe 380rwhp but also owned a bf2 XR6 turbo stock tuned 380 rwhp and now have a bf tonner greentop e85 pushing 580rwhp that throws you back harder than all the Ford's I've had previously. Its hard to admit that technology has beaten the old-school but it is what it is and the Barra as you said, should be feared by all who challenge it .(don't think I'm 1 sided I also owned a vn ss 5.0l and vr Calais 5.0l vyss 5.7 and most recently a wn caprice l77 6.0 and yes they were all great cars and fun to drive but the Barra turbo is in its own world)cheers for the uploads I'm enjoying your channel alot ✌️👍

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, Barra would have been no. 1 if I had sole input into it! Frankie is a V8 guy though and I had to twist his arm to include it in the top 5. They are awesome hey?

@bernie232

2 жыл бұрын

What do you reckon of the windsor vs the holden 5lt?

@mechanic7430

2 жыл бұрын

@@bernie232 that's a tricky one as the xr8 I had was manual and both 5l were autos. The 5l Holden pulled harder from lower rpms and didn't leak oil which was nice but the Windsor hauled ass at higher revs .both great fun to have owned

Can’t get any better than a 351 Cleveland

We used to go to the boat races at keepit dam back in the 60’s, there was a boat there called “Buster” with a big Ford V8 engine (428 BOSS I think), was frightening to see that thing leap out of the water, sounded awesome with the big o’head pipes and pumped out a wash tail that could clean the streets of a big city I reckon. Great clip & info, thanks fellah’s.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Haha classic. Yes, they were a big ol girl the 428 Boss. Very special.

Love my Fords, I have a XR8 Sprint that i will keep for a long time. I remember my dad telling me when he was alive that they bought a ford XY ute when he was younger and it was meant to have a 302 in it and somehow they ended up with a 351 in it. It would spin the wheels going down hill changing gears, too bad a metal fence pole got stuck through the radiator when they where in the paddock with it and decided to drive it home which it didn't survive.

Man I wish we had the Barra motor here in the states. That little motor is a beast!

The Braham supercar has a ford 5.4l na engine producing around 700hp. Not bad for na and sounds awesome

Wow, was watching the episode when all of a sudden my John Goss Special pops on the screen when you’re talking about the 302 Clevo, thanks guys that was quiet the chuffed moment!

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, how awesome is that! Thanks for watching.

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

Great looking Hardtop, it is a credit to you.

You forgot the 427 FE Big Block. Legendary engine!

Happy to see that Clevo got the love

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You bet, special engine the Clevo.

Awesome

The clevelands had a habit of splitting bores when used for high performance applications they developed this L shaped crack down the bore and then it turned 90% and run along the thick part of the casting at the bottom of the cyl. I believe that Moffat sourced his blocks from Canada which were supposedly a thicker casting. I still remember once spending a saturday fitting 8 what are called c sleeves into a 351 clevo used for a drag car with the sleeves coming in A,B, AND C thicknesses with c being rarely used as they were so thick and usually not necessary plus you bored away a big% of the parent bore. Anyway next time i saw the guy i asked he he went answer he said it was going great until i missed a gear and threw a rod.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insight Grant. You certainly know your engines and will share your comment with Frankie, I hadn't heard about the bore splitting issue before. Thanks for watchimg our videos and always commenting mate. We really appreciate it.

Barra is the v8 eater and in my opinion the best inline six cylinder engine ever made.

@NoOne56488

2 жыл бұрын

2jz is better, but not by much.

@jameswozny2701

2 жыл бұрын

Far too heavy and tall to be named the best of all. Best for straight line performance for sure.

Early barras 6 turbo went bang in number 5 pot but you could rebuild them with the lpg head and they were pretty good then...really freaked me out when i took my sons 6 t for a run....respect

The best Falcon is definitely the mighty au

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day, lots of fans out there for the AU! I never realised that had such a following 😉

@edxr6949

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage It sure does! AUDOIN

@itsmini7092

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage more of a meme following

@sambaker6360

2 жыл бұрын

Nah mate love the old xa or Xys

@bps4086

2 жыл бұрын

UP THE MIGHTY AU

Non-Aussie Ford engines worth a mention: Boss 351 Boss 429 427 SOHC (Cammer) Ford Cosworth DFV

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Nice choices there mate. I like the 427 of course!

@geraldswain3259

2 жыл бұрын

None of them are in the same league as a Cosworth DFV!.

@Prestiged_peck

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage got to mention the short deck modular v10 and v12 we almost got if budget cuts hadn't struck, also do remember the koenigsegg got a 4.6 block, not a 5.4 block.

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

The Boss 351 is the exact motor that went in the XY GTHO Falcon , it came in a crate from Ford USA .

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

​@@Prestiged_peckno mod v12 only 6.8 V10

Yeah the old BA wagons go pretty good with a turbo, good sleeper

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

You betcha, this thing was a real sleeper. Even had a tiny stock exhaust tip poking out the back for even more trickery 🤪

I agree with this list 100%

We need to see you lads build a Ford powered project car like what Cleetus has done with Neighbour. I reckon a top mount supercharger on a 5.0L in a Ford utility would be magic. Would make a nice shed buddy for your GM black pickup as well.

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

They need someone in the States to send them a written off Mustang to turn into a track beastie hey!

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea Tom! We will keep an eye out at the auction houses and see if we can pick up a cool platform. Thanks for watching mate.

i love my BA wagon but im a v8 guy so i have slapped a boss 290 and a 5 speed in mine

I have owned all these engines and Holden and have to say Cleveland and Coyote share number one spot,the holden 253 and 308 in my experiance are most unrelieable and oil burning motors i have ever owed,and the old barra orsum power but sound nasty

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, yes I mentioned in the video that the barra sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Clevo and Coyote are pretty special. I included a photo of the Coyote in the thumbnail, thanks for watching mate.

@coolkatz9012

Жыл бұрын

253 4 speed HX 1 toner allways looking for the overdrive specially up the Hume

OOOP'S Good bit of literature there Frank.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! That episode took a long time to make and edit. Lots of research 😀

The FE Cleveland and Coyote. I wish that the Cleveland had been a 4.63 bore spacing so that the heads could have fit the FE. The thing is when you look at a Coyote, the architecture is a lot like the FE. No cam tunnel, but many things that they learned from the 60s are in the Coyote. And the heads though OHC takes much from the Cleveland. Those three engines were the evolution of the Ford OHV engines.

You have some great looking banners there, are they from House of Muscle?

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Angry, yes they are House of Muscle. Jump onto their online ebay site and pick one up for your Mum for an early xmas present!

300 L6 hands down best, full stop.

@bryancollins4324

Жыл бұрын

Facts

Hi matey, you should one about the old valiants....

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Great idea mate. We will have to put our thinking hats on for that one!

I'd go with the 289 v8 the 250 straight 6 the 300 straight 6 both the 351 Windsor and Cleveland and the 5.0

Aussie Barra. Cleveland 4v Awesome

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The clevo 4V heads were massive hey!

The Cleveland block used in the Group A cars was a ‘NASCAR Block’, it was some 50kg heavier than the standard block great engines, as are most Ford motors.

@frankrenda2519

2 жыл бұрын

had one not true

@F1Tragic

2 жыл бұрын

Frank Renda, I can assure you the blocks we machined for Moffatt, Johnson and co were NASCAR Blocks and were heavier and noticeably different from a standard 351 Cleveland blocks, I carried many of these bare blocks around the machine shop and I can attest to their extra weight. Don’t comment on things you have no knowledge of.

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

I am guessing that you are talking about XE casting number block which were for export to the US and used for motorsport. They had thicker bores and pan rails which made them slightly heavier than the standard Cleveland but not 50 kilos heavier. Also no Cleveland powered Ford's competed in Group A. The last Cleveland powered race car was the XE Falcon which competed under Group C rules.

@frankrenda2519

2 жыл бұрын

@@F1Tragic you dont comment on things you have no idea of. been building engines for 30 years and i have had quite a few xe blocks only marginaly thicker in the walls when sonic checked and they had filled in pan rails and four bolt caps the blocks were no big deal nothing compared to the modern dart blocks.you shouldnt spout off because there are people out there that know about these blocks

@frankrenda2519

2 жыл бұрын

forget 50 kg your totaly wrong at best 7-10 kg

Oh and on the subject of barra and v8s, i used to be a die hard clevo fan until i sampled the mighty barra turbo. The v8s were always about the torque but when you get it just off idle with 6 well spaced gears, i havent looked back. Barras may sound like quiet arse (stock) but most v8s will get their ass handed to them, and gents, i hate being second fiddle.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching mate. I don't think we could live with the sound of a barra. We still admire their grunt though!

@lauchlanstill6677

Жыл бұрын

The barras have crazy amounts of torque

427 Side Oiler, BOSS 429, 351CJ BOSS 302 and of course the 500 Mountain Motor.

Good bit of

The 4.0 intech are awesome engines! Had a AU manual XR6, The power that produced was unbelievable.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked your AU mate. Do you still have it? They are becoming a bit collectable nowadays.

@edxr6949

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage I had no idea what was done to that thing. No mate not that one, but I do have a mint series 3 AU XR6 now. White, pretty low with aftermarket rims. Rest is stock even retains the factory audio. I also have a ED XR6 manual.

@jacobford3038

Жыл бұрын

AUs are buckets of shit lol

@edxr6949

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobford3038 Haha hello little boy

@jacobford3038

Жыл бұрын

@@edxr6949 Q. Does (ED) stand for erectile dysfunction?

Ford Barra is number 1 :P 2nd is the clevo.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, lots of support behind the Barra!

Sacrilege omission gentlemen. XC 351c one-two in 1977 by Allan Moffat and Colin Bond. Truely one of the great 1-2 finishes of the great race IMO.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, absolutely and thats why the Clevo was no.1. I should have included a photo of that win though. There is an awesome roof top photo of the 1-2 finish.

Its an old dinosaur now but the Ford 427 SOHC motor is the best looking motor ever.

I thought your choices were good💪👌👍

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe!

5;DFV, 4;Barra, 3;DFV, 2;Barra and tied for the win the DFV and the Barra! Yours a Holden Fan OM the Cleveland 351

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input Bruce, just to clarify, what is the DFV?

@brucepulver8358

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage please find link en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosworth_DF

1.. Barra 2.. Windsor 5.0L/5.6/5.8 3.. clevo 4.. Miami 5.. boss 5.4

It was Brocky that gave Dick a lift back to the pits when the greens tuff falcon went bush so you could say dick started his qualifying lap in a Ford and finished in a Holden ! Although not common here but the 429 was I think the top of the heap for Ford for many years . So now you have done the Holden V Ford thing how about Chev and Mopar ,Dodge or Chrysler or what ever they seem to call themselves - i call them Valiants .

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Ian, great idea! I will put that video idea into the backlog, we don't have a huge amount of experience with those engines or cars, but would make a cool episode.

I’m watching hoping that the 250 cross flow ? Otherwise the 351 CLEVELAND AND THE 289 Windsor my favourite ford motors.

@patrickaussieMilartry

Ай бұрын

I have a BF G8 Fairlane 2006 model only 153 were manufactured. Tho she is running a stock original 5.4 ltr 3 valve Barra V8. Mine has only done 67,000 kms But I’ve heard they are problematic? Not sure why Ford Australia DID NOT USE THE 4 valve 290 kw engine especially in the BF LTD AND BF FAIRLANE. THE G8 is factory with 230 kw And a ghia was also on offer with a G220 kw or the 4.0 ltr Barra ? I think. ? But she is in I’d say 95% compared to one in the show room almost 20 years ago. Very nice indeed. Cheers love your selection on the Ford Donks 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺👌

@patrickaussieMilartry

Ай бұрын

4 v clevo 2 v clevo. They could take everything you could throw at those engines.

Did Ford sort out the bore linings on the Coyote 3 motor?

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, not too sure. Let me check in with Frankie as see if he knows.

I'm a 64yo mechanic and have had my hands on all of those and still haven't been able to wash the Ford stains off...( A Lion fan).

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Ah nice one mate. Yes we are true GM Holden fans here at the channel.

@ziggassedup

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage That's why I'm here mate...I've got a Holden built '38 Chev with all Holden stuff in it...Most from a VN Berlina..Some HR some HJ some LH some FX some VS some FC...Yep 6 decades of The Generals bits and pieces...Not a show car but cool old bits of our history.

@Karl-Benny

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage shame you have to lie to tell a story

being American, and actually expecting this to be the line up of the best, toughest, longest lasting engines ever made by Ford, and altho interesting got some obscure run of the mill Ford stuff.. My thoughts were for sure the 300 inline 6 cylinder and the 302 V-8 would be in that line up... But they came from out in left field with this very misleading intro title to the vid,,, I have worked 300 6 cylinders for well over 300k in 2 different trucks and 1 van, and 302 motors over 300k twice in vans during my construction years... The only issue I myself ever had with the 300 six was the rear main starts to weep after 175-200k, but they're easy to change out really. Just a couple of hours and a twelve pack back in the day.

Vulcan, Duratec 3.0, Cyclone 3.5 H.O. V6 and 1.5 Ecoboost I4, 4.0 SOHC V6 and Coyote 5.0 V8

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, some interesting choices there and thanks for watching.

Where's the SOCH from the MIGHTY AU?

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, unfortunately my co-star Frankie is not a fan of that engine. He does like Barras though!

I love my boss260 but wish I bought a Barra instead

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, I would keep your boss V8 mate - they aren't making any more of em here in Australia anyways....

@lauchlanstill6677

Жыл бұрын

They sound better, I’m going to buy a boss260

I'm state side. Looking to import a barra 6 turbo. Where is the best place to get one sent from. Shop name and number if u mates have it please.

@FULLNOIZ

11 ай бұрын

A long time since you commented mate, but if you're still looking...XR 6 Turbo Developments in Hallam, Melbourne, Australia might be able to help you. Punch them into Google.

hi Some Cosworth were available in ozzy and then there was the all versions 3.0ltr v6 . U haven`t looked to hard .

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think they were looking at all. They only made an impact on the track and no one here wanted to drive them on the street.

@paulthompson1654

Жыл бұрын

@@angry9901 Thats why they were sold to the general public !! . But yes they were very overpriced and getting the later far far better versions were like pulling teeth from Ford ozzy . Cosworth versions /efi versions /quad cam / turbo versions well a head of its time .

Kiwi here these cars are just as much a part of our culture so can appreciate this vid as a Falcon owner. Agree on most parts asides from a turbo Barra sounding bad, a big straight 6 turbo esp one breathing right sounds awesome. Bogans straight piping them or blocking the BOV for that idiotic 'dose' effect or a Non turbo barra however yeah that's a hard nah. Anyway keep up the good vids 👍

i have all ways loved the com v6 but i just brought a 2010 fg ute decated gas i thought it would be a bit gut less on gas well i was shocked how much get up and go it has and it will pull that wanker of the cross

96-98 4.6 4v is the best. 5.9 sec with stock block heads crank over 200+ mph

Are Mustangs as popular in Australia as they are in the USA?

@ClunieGarage

11 ай бұрын

Yes they are popular but probably not as much as the US as we have only had them a few years. Also our population is heaps smaller!

How about the 300 six ,in my 1968 truck

Back in the day a boss engine was a Windsor with Cleveland heads now days it’s a Windsor with LS1 chev heads if you can make a intake manifold for it hopefully it catches on in the speed shops the thing is the LS1 chev engine is a copy of the 351 Windsor engine.. yeah yeah Barra the world 🌎 twin cam 6 I prefer the AU intech AKA the single cam Barra as it sounds way better than the Barra

surplus 351 clevos went to de tomaso, but most went to mercury to be marinised as a mercruiser. So for boats. That being said, mercury arent brand racist when it comes to their stern drives. My boat has a "mercruruiser 4.3L mpi v6" which has a mercury sticker on the cover over the air filter, yet the rest is stamped chevrolet vortec.

U guys forgot the best victory 1 and 2 xc conra with clevos

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, yes that was an oversight. Frankie advised me of that after we published the video unfortunately.

Us yanks do envy the Barra. Like a better Aussie 2J

Them yanks started your car craze

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

And we perfected it !

Not even a mention of the first production big block...? The F.E. .... The engine platform that became the legendary 428CJ and 427 S.O. and the 427 SOHC ...???

the B series xr8s was no such thing as boss 270 its was only boss 260 only in the xr8s... then they had a boss 290 then 302 then the lucky last boss 315 in the FPV variants... in the mustangs they had a coyote v8s which are 5L not 5.2L, 5L coyote was the same engine out of a mustang in the newer FG variants

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

Sorry the 5.2 voodoo coyote was in mustangs !

Boss 429 Boss 302 427 Sohc 302 windsor 427 sideoiler

300 ci inline 6 is a good motor.

When’s a Ford coming to the channel ol Fred

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Keep an eye out young Zach. Frankie maybe doing some mods to his BA GT!

Chrysler next?

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, we don't know anything about Chrysler-Mopars. We would have to do some serious research and even then we wouldn't be credible on that topic! 🤔

Cosworth bda doesn’t get a mention.

The T3 looks like a Volvo from certain angles

Up the barra

5.6 Windsor Tickford was too late should have been in EB GT...

not a fan of the windsor dose not have the grunt of the cleveland and is my 2ND fav ford V8 motor you can't go past the BARRA TURBO There's an FGX out there at the moment running 7.2 at 198MPH Street rego i'm sorrry i'm a V8 FAN BUT barra's rule

Barra should of been higher then the boss surly

@ClunieGarage

11 ай бұрын

We are V8 fans so hard to put a 6 in front 😀

Essex v6 3L

I think the new 7.3 Godzilla v8 engine should destroy every

@scottedwards6578

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

Yep

If you dont have the YB series engine on the list then the list is not valid

No big block Ford in Australia, what a shame.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Angry, not that I am aware of. Young Frankie built a 460 BB in a XB 4 door back in the day, but I don't think we had any production cars that actually came out with a BB. 351 was as big as it got in cars anyways I recall.

@axelknutt5065

2 жыл бұрын

What about in some of the Galaxy’s from late 60’s and early 70’s … I’m pretty sure they have various engines over 400 cid … maybe up to 460??

@jamesgovett2501

2 жыл бұрын

Well technically your wrong because the Tank Fairlanes sold in Australia with the 332’s had the “smallest” of the big blocks and don’t forget the Australian Galaxies with the 390’s and the LTD’s with the 400’s that I remember well from my days in the early 70’s when l worked for a couple of Ford dealers, these were before the Aussie Fairlanes & LTD’s and Statesmans

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

What was the output on those FE motors James, around 200 horsepower?

Ecoboost is the best !!

You cannot slap a supercharger on a coyote and rename the motor Miami ! If that was the case when Australia redesigned the Cleveland heads and took over casting them at the Geelong Casting Centre we would have to rename the motor a 351 Geelong ! There is no miami just coyote with a supercharger !

It seems that telling anyone what a Barra actually *is* , was unimportant or too difficult. 😐 Capacities (there was more than 1), block and head materials, variants (6), valve train, vehicles fitted to, what makes it special or different, etc, etc. 🤷🏼‍♂️ You know, and I know, and most (some?) other Strayan Ford fans know - but what about telling _everybody else_ ..? 🤦🏼‍♂️

Can’t agree with Boss V8 above the Barra… No way. Miami should of been in its own category again above the boss V8.

hmm bogan selection right there, no boss 429 or sohc , there's way more to Ford engines than what is in Australia, the best offerings of a home grown Ford V8 are 5.6 handbuilt 250kw Windsor for the te/ts/TL au's and the superchard Miami , both were massive Australian achievements, you forgot the godfather of the Barra, the 250 2V that was the very basis of the Barra and without it the development wouldn't have made it as far, as for the 1600 Kent motor that deserved a real place as most Ford guys started driving the itty bitty crossflow at the start of there Ford journey

mate got in a bren //////flat head

The boss shouldn’t have even made count down they are lemons 🍋

@aussiesupersnake6642

2 жыл бұрын

Mate put a kenne- belle supercharger on them and stroke them to 5.8 they were orsum,and with right mufflers they sounded a treat

@lauchlanstill6677

Жыл бұрын

They are nice motors

@mickblack3291

5 ай бұрын

I got the 260kw Boss, it's a great engine & ultra reliable, starts first time every time & runs like the day it was built 20yrs later, l haven't had to put a spanner to it in the 7yrs I've owned it & is real good on fuel, can't as for much more than that.

The first ever V8 engine was designed, patented and made functional in France by a Frenchman called Leon Levavaseur.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day mate, oh wow thanks for the insight - never knew that!

@djdale.5806

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage How are you mate? No worries.Was a bizarre thing too. The V8 in its initial crude form was designed for aeroplanes.

No clue

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be too hard on yourself mate.

Dohc 3.5v6 Ford did 580km lol

Y BLOCK. WINDSOR CLEVELAND CAMMER BARRA.

there is only one Winsor engine the 351W which a member of the Ford Small block family. THERE IS NO WINDSOR ENGINE FAMILY...

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

Yes there is 351 Windsor is in official ford paperwork, and it progressed to all the engines that shared that design , the original 221 V8 was cast at the Windsor Casting Centre Canada so Windsor family , if you want to get tech , there is no Cleveland family either ! It's a 335 engine family , but the US ones were cast in Cleveland US , and in Australia you have to designate Windsor or Cleveland as we have 302 Clevelands and 302 Windsors along with 351 Clevelands and 351 Windsors !

@matthewq4b

Ай бұрын

@@JosephCowen-fz8vj WRONG the 221 was NEVER Cast at Windsor nor was the 260. And there was NO production 302W it was just 302. There was a 302W mules done with the same concept as the 351M in the early 80's for use in the F Series to make use of the extra 351W casting slots freed up with abandonment of the 351W in the consumer Panthers sold in the US. There is NO Ford paperwork saying that either. I spent 40 years at FOMOCOCA as powertrain engineer. So you can just quit with the lies. But go show one ONE piece of Ford literature calling the small blocks Windsors I dare ya..

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

@@matthewq4b crap , 221 Windsors were cast at the Windsor Casting Centre and 260 and 289 and 302 and 351 Windsors , excluding 302w cast at or in Mexico , 351 M is just a 400 with a 351 Windsor crank , so it is Modified , there is another 351 ford Australia tried and built 27 working engines in cars , it was a 351 Cleveland bottom end and 351w top end , it was tryed to make a lesser or more drivable 351 V8 , Ford Australia then redesigned the US 351 C heads and block and made the 302 Cleveland and 351 Cleveland from 1974 to 1984/5 . All 400 and 351 M have MCC cast in them indicating Michigan Casting Centre. Since all Cleveland's after 1974 were cast in the Geelong Casting Centre Australia shouldn't it be renamed the 302 Geelong and 351 Geelong ? If the 221 thu 351 W were not cast at the Windsor Casting Centre then were ? Later roller cam 5.0 and 255 Windsors were cast in the Cleveland Casting Centre and Mexico but that was in the 1980s to 1990s .

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

@@matthewq4b what do you mean 302w drone cast in the same way as 351m , ? That is a 351 Windsor , a raised deck 302 W , a 351 M is a 400 block with a 351 W crank as they share main sizes and it was easy to make !

@JosephCowen-fz8vj

Ай бұрын

@@matthewq4b Wikipedia official designation of the 221 V8 is officially Windsor or Challenger V8 , as stated on official web site , originally it had no designation other than Fairlane V8 later when the 351 Windsor came out the whole family became Windsor ! Google the facts !

Coyote. Cleveland FE Windsor Barra

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Paul, what is the FE engine in your list? Thanks for watching mate.

@paulkeogh1191

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage 427 cammer 427 le mans

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulkeogh1191 ah gotcha. Was that engine in the Ford GT?

@paulkeogh1191

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClunieGarage Yeah.And don't forget the boss 429 semi hemi and new voodoo

I thought you blokes were GM fans???

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing Frankie in his Ford jumper before. I think they are fans of any Aussie V8.

@ClunieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

G'day Gary, we are GM guys at heart but you have to mix it up every now and then to keep things interesting 😉

Wait wait wait ole mate just called the intec horrible. Clearly not the smartest fella

barra is the only decent aussie ford motor 351 got done by a red six

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

When was that¿???¿

@cptpharket9701

2 жыл бұрын

@@angry9901 1972

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

At Bathurst? When it rained all day?

@cptpharket9701

2 жыл бұрын

@@angry9901 and your point is

@cptpharket9701

2 жыл бұрын

@@angry9901 dont fords work in the rain

BA xr8 was 260kw,,not 270...XW and XY look very different..I hope your not a Ford man.

Turned off when you shit on the mighty AU. Like to see any GM product that would be as reliable as them.

Sorry to be that guy but Ford did not produce the first mass production v8.

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

Who did?

@glengee4462

2 жыл бұрын

Angry ! Cadillac decades before

@angry9901

2 жыл бұрын

Could it be said that the Cadillac was a low volume motor sold in a car for the mega rich? The Cadillac was worth more than a Rolls Royce and six times the price of the Ford.

@mickblack3291

5 ай бұрын

Yes Cadillac had V8"s before Ford but not for the masses, only the elites could afford Cadillac's.

the 5.4 was absolute junk wider than a big block and drinks like a thirsty pig. did you forget the timing chain issues? the coyote is a far better engine: up to 900hp before you rebuild the bottom end. the AU was ford australias highest selling unit. beat the previous record holder the XF by a few hundred units

Your 302 Cleveland was actually a 302 boss in the United States

@mickblack3291

5 ай бұрын

302BOSS was a Windsor block/Cleveland head engine, we didn't have that engine here in Australia, the 302 4.9ltr Cleveland is a destroked 351Cleveland available only in Australia.

Windsor ❤❤❤❤ Cleveland oil system stinks

The windsor is the worst engine

@mills3375

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I’d say the 5.4 Boss, nothing wrong with them but not fan and even as a Ford man I’d say the LS1/LS2/L98/L76 at the time were much better motors

Holden engines 🤢