A good ol' 180 grain 30-06 would kill just about any animal on the planet at close - mid range.

@nayrapepenova9325

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but it likely wouldn't stop a grizzly charge unless you have extremely good shot placement. Not everyone has that. That's where the big stopping cartridge magnums come in.

@Shaggy_Rogers0001

3 ай бұрын

@nayrapepenova9325 I agree, if the grizzly is charging, than a 180 grain wouldn't stop it dead in it's tracks like a stopping rifle. But the bear would inevitably die from the damage caused by the bullet.

@nayrapepenova9325

3 ай бұрын

Oh totally. The Ole 06 can definitely do the job for sure

My personal pick is, 9.3x62 300 gr bullet 2300 fps 3754lb of muzzle energy.

@hoffi9327

2 ай бұрын

Sounds good

The USDA made a publication in the 80's for Forest Service employees. Their recommendations for most people are 30-06 with 220 grain partitions or similar (A-frame) and I think you could also use 200 grain TSX. Due to good balance of recoil and commonality. They also say 375 H&H 300 grain.

@bennwj

Жыл бұрын

With bullet construction that we have these days a well constructed 180gr can penetrate better than a 22 did back then and have a flatter trajectory to go with it

The 375H&H is my all time favorite. I've shot an interior Grizzly with it as well as two Cape Buffalo in the most satisfactory way. Happy hunting everyone. 👍 😊

@ikeyschultz4969

10 ай бұрын

This round has been weighed, measured, and found successful on every continent vs every dangerous (small or large) at 100 meters or less.

338 win mag is the winner in my book. They are common, affordable, long range, ammo available, down range energy. It will ruin moose meat with its destruction power. Perfect for big bears. Trapper Scotty,Alaskan

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input!

@ericfrontczak8016

10 ай бұрын

225 kills just the same as 250 doesn't beat the hell out of you

This is why I got my 416 Ruger. I have shot through 26 2x10's and a two foot diameter oak log with solids. Thing is a monster with 400 grain TSX @ 2400 fps 5,100 ft-lbs out of a 20 inch barrel, leaves a MASSIVE wound channel and penetrates as deep as 300 win mag solids. Thing was made for Alaska.

@markloomis1415

Жыл бұрын

I've got two 416 Rugers and think it is a neat package. I've got the guide gun and the African. It is more powerful than the 416 Taylor wildcat and equal to the 416 Remington mag in the same barrel length. I have not shot any game with the 416 Ruger yet, cause I have had a love affair with the 458 win mag and 458 Lott for many years and have taken much game with both, including waterbuffalo and Cape Buffalo! My buddy used a 416 Ruger for his waterbuffalo with great success but I was using a custom Marlin 45/70 for my waterbuffalo that time with great success! I think the 416 Ruger should be more popular than it is and hope Ruger will continue chambering it!

@jamespmullin21753

11 ай бұрын

@@markloomis1415 Aren't water buffalo domesticated? What did you do, walk up, pat it, then shoot it in the head?

@markloomis1415

11 ай бұрын

No,I gave it a big kiss first. Seriously, you know nothing about Buffalo. All Buffalo in the wild are dangerous, especially when wounded, and have a natural instinct for revenge! Even Waterbuffalo when hit will run a little ways into the brush and then turn towards the hunter and wait in ambush! The first time I hunted in Argentina, A buddy of mine and his PH got charged by his wounded Waterbuffalo in the brush and he and his PH fired 5 shots into it as it knocked them both over. It then turned around for another charge and his PH fired his last shot from his 375 H&H and hit it between the eyes, dropping it at there feet!

@davidnikulka1437

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the imfo .@@markloomis1415

I just picked up a 35 Whelen. I got 2900 fps with Hornady 200gr Superformance factory ammo. Good performance for a non-magnum cartridge. I can’t wait to see what I can get with reloads!

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Have fun!

@deanmuir511

8 ай бұрын

Hmmm fat utard that probably never has or will even see a bear telling me which gun to use!!! So funny

When I began reading on bears and I was plesantly suprised to find my beloved 358Norma Magnum was well received used and accepted. Its more power then the 338 plus better bullet diameter. Sends 250g bullets past 2850 fps. Ability of 300g bullets in the excellent Barns Original design. Solidly past low 4000 fpe.

35 whelen preferred but I'd trust my 30-06 with 200gr

@b01tact10n

11 ай бұрын

I'm well practiced with my REM700 in 30'06. I'm going to Kodiak this fall and coming back to the Kuskokwim for Bull Moose. I've got great 5 shot groups inside of a dime @150yds with the 200gr Partition. I get as close as I can get for good headshot placement The 35 Whelen is one awesome cartridge 😁👍👍

340 weatherby is a great choice, I would try to get some heavy TSX and solids to handload. Cutting Edge makes 338 cal solids. I agree on 300 win mag I am working up handloads with 210 grain solids. I think for 300 win mag the best choices would be 200 grain TSX and 210 grain solid alternating in the magazine.

Always a great and interesting subject! Nice video with different cartridges than the last. My overall #1 choice would be my 338 Win. Mag. If I knew that I had to take , or was very likely to take a 200-300 yd. shot, ahead of time, then my 338-378 Wby. It hits at 100 yds with the same energy as a 340 Wby. at the muzzle, or at 200 yds. what a 338 Win. Mag. does at the muzzle. More power than needed, for sure, but, it may provide a big margin for the job at the distances, I mentioned. Optimum bullet construction and good shot placement are assumed of course.

Any good 180 gr partition/bonded bullet that is designed to expand and stay together in 30 cal will certainly do the job. .300 Win Mag, .300 Short (Winchester or Remington versions). 7mm mag is also a good choice. If you can shoot a .338 well, that is also a great choice, but its more of a “want to have” instead of a “need to have” cartridge.

The 338 win, 45-70, 35 Whelan. 350 remmag, 358 Norma, 375 ruger.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Good list! Thanks for commenting!

. 338 Win Mag.

My fang and claw rifle is a Ruger M77 Alaskan rifle in 416 Ruger.

. 338-06 and .35 Whelen good choices as well.

@dave-d-grunt

Ай бұрын

Ive aways liked the 35 Whelen!

@dave-d-grunt

Ай бұрын

Always liked the .35 Whelen.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that the 30-06 has been used to kill more brown and grizzly bears than any other cartridge.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Probably

@SamLloyd-fp8dq

11 ай бұрын

Actually Alaskan residents and eskimos kill more grizzly/brown bear/kodiak than any other carriages Now in lower 48 states 30-30 is number one and been out longer than any other cartridges exist

@SamLloyd-fp8dq

4 ай бұрын

Doubt it. Most Alaskans and Alaskan natives uses 30-30 more than anything else. Especially on big grizzlies

I've got lots of suitable Brown Bear rifles but would definitely put my 340 Weatherby at the top of the list. I really love the 458 win mag and have shot a lot of game with it. It's versatility is unmatched and shoots 250gr to 500gr bullets with moa accuracy. I think for big bears I would choose the 400gr Swift A frame at 2400fps! My Dakota 458 Lott loves that bullet at 2500fps!

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Wow you've got some big cartridges!

My preferred chambering for Browns and Other big bears is the .35 Whelen loaded with a 225gr Swift A-Frame at 2750 fps. The .35 Whelen is too often overlooked.

@ReloadingWeatherby

9 ай бұрын

Yes it is. I'm tempted to get a 35 Whelen

@richardkramer1094

9 ай бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby I also use it when I’m hunting in grizzly country as a camp protecting gun, however it is loaded with 250gr Swift A-Frames at 2570 fps for stopping power.

Hi RW, Good to see one of your videos again. All good choices. Naturally you can't name them all. A big part depends on which one has a manageable recoil for the shooter, the terrain that will be hunted and what other game is on the menu. The ones I've shoot big bear with or seen friends shoot them with are as follows. 416 Weatherby 416 Remington 458 Winchester 340 Weatherby 300 Weatherby 300 Winchester 375 H&H Recently I did a grizzly hunt, didn't get one, with a 338 RUM. I'd imagine it'll do what my 340 does. This is in no way a complete list and I'd say use what you're comfortable and familiar with. If that is a 30-06 than use it. Of course shot placement and bullet construction are paramount, since that is your only connection to the animal. One cartridge I have wanted to try for years and never have is the 358 Norma Mag. When I was a kid I read a story about trying this cartridge to protect pipeline workers. 250 gr bullet cooking at 2900fps will do the trick. Oddly the only rifle I've ever seen in that cartridge was an Omega. Love at first sight for a gun crazy 10 year old. Also the only Omega I've ever seen. Keep up the videos, RW. They're fun. Cheers, Jeff.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting!

Great video! Makes me interested in the 375 ruger. In Montana last week I found a mark v .300 weatherby mag for 794.00, could hardly believe it.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Wow that is a great price!

@markcox2870

Жыл бұрын

375 Ruger is magnificent brother. You will love it.

Can't stop thinking about that Weatherby Vanguard Talon you showed us a few videos back. I pick that in 300 Weatherby Mag for my Grizzly hunting rifle. But, for those real big brown bears way up north I'm taking my model 70, 375h&h 👍🙏✌

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

You going to get that Vanguard Talon?

@kylemartin832

Жыл бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby Hard to beat for the money. The Peak 44 stock alone is almost $800. If my shop can get one in I'll probably grab it, caliber depending. Would you recommend a Vanguard? What caliber would you go with in the Talon?

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

@@kylemartin832 I would absolutely recommend a Vanguard rifle. What caliber would I get? Depends on what I already have. For me I would probably get it in 6.5-300 WBY. I already have a lot of the calibers it's in.

There is a famous story of a man hunting trophy black deer in Alaska with a 7mm Rem Mag. He and the guide happened on a brown bear that charged them. The bear took the entire magazine of 7mm Rem Mag. The guide paid the insurance at just 20 feet with a 416 Ruger. The guides that I know personally insist clients use 300 Win Mag at the absolute minimum. It the locals want to use a 270 Winchester that's magnificent have at it. The locals in Zimbabwe also use hand lines to catch Tiger Fish.. Sound it out in your head guys.....

Bart the bear said that the 22 short, or the 25 acp, in his' opinion, are the best calibers for defense against grizzly bear.

@keyjam9

7 ай бұрын

Haha. Good one. And the bear is a great movie. I watch it often. How did they get those shots with no computer stuff in the 80's?

@bluebeastsrt

18 күн бұрын

Watch the 22 for self defense videos. There will always be one guy in the comments. That had an uncle or a buddy that dropped a deer or bear at 300 years with a 22.🙄

For the Woods the 35Whelen with 275gr Woodleigh PP @ 2350fps (19”) and 358Winchester with 250gr Norma Oryx @2280fps (21”) are my favorites.

200 grain TSX for 300 Win mag best choice if only for bear. I would not load it too fast I would keep it slower so it doesn't over expand and limit penetration.

It's a good list if you're keeping them at a decent range, if you're in the woods the list would be quite different. Also surprised that there was no honorable mention for .460 WBY or .450 NE

Funny enough i got all the rifles you mentioned and my most succesful cartridge is a 454 casull on a scary grizz charge 1 shot it went down and ill tell ya never in grizz woods without now that being said when hunting my 30-378 has been a beauty but im leaning towards my 375 ruger for a light carry and surprisingly the 375 rounds are amazing i have also took a elk with a 375 cheytac

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

I love and hate the 454 casull. It's fun to shoot, but I'm done shooting it after the second shot

Man, I absolutely love your choices and you really create some fun content. If I added one that I would really like, it's the 416 Remington. I think if you use a 400gr bullet, you get ~2500fps for a muzzle energy of about 5400. I've actually fired this round one time and it left a welt on my shoulder for a month! I think it would only take one to take a brown bear 🤣. Really great topic my friend. Very fun!

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Jeff! I've shot a 416 Remington. It's a beast!

@Jeff_Seely

Жыл бұрын

Always my pleasure. Please keep em comin!

@andrewcleveland

Жыл бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby love my 416 Remington and 416 Taylor Improved. I have lots of practice with them since I use them as my deer rifles. If I ever got the chance at brown bears I’d have to go with one of these rifles. I don’t use the 400 grain bullets though, mainly use the 300-350 grain loads for my whitetail loads. Great video as always!

good choices but you missed the .35 Whelen which is one of the best

@jw-sigp2258

Жыл бұрын

I love the 35 Whelen. Great power and brass can be made from 30-06.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

I wanted a cartridge that came in a bolt action. I definitely didn't forget about the 35 Whelen.

@cw2a

Жыл бұрын

35Whelen was born in Bolt actions. Used in Remington pump and auto and more reciently some single shots when it was legal as a primitive caliber is some states. This one defineatly deserves consideration & mention. Its a "poor mans magnum. Why 35 Calibers are so often overlooked is simply beyond me. Many times they offer superior power and bullets.

@jw-sigp2258

Жыл бұрын

@@cw2a Whats up CW. I’m a huge fan of 35 cal as well. For PA my top 35 cal pick is 35 Remington. But for elk, moose, and brown bear it would be 35 Whelen for sure. Are there any decent 35 cal wildcats off of the 300 win mag case?

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

@@cw2a Does anyone make a 35 Whelen in a bolt action right now? I think it's a great choice. I just don't want to bear hunt with a break action single shot.

338WM using 250 NP at 2820 fps has accounted 2 brownies, 3 moose, 5 elk, 2 eland etc. I also like the 210 NP and believe it's as effective

@bearhuntd

7 ай бұрын

Are you runing a 26" bbl om your winmag?

Something else not voiced. Defensive use. You wont find many "magnums" on that list. 12ga, 45/70 are gonna be tops. But 444, 450Marlin, 458 Socomb and 450 Bushmaster are newer arrivals that deserve consideration.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

True, I was naming cartridges you would use to hunt brown bear

@justahologram2230

Жыл бұрын

You could argue that .500 S&W has a spot among those though it's only in one repeater as far as I know

@cw2a

Жыл бұрын

Good point 2230. Then there is best HANDGUN's /Calibers of hand guns! 💪🏼

@justahologram2230

Жыл бұрын

@@cw2a I was thinking about it out of Big Horn Armory's 18" lever action

@cw2a

Жыл бұрын

@@justahologram2230 AWESOME GUN! Yes Would be excellent short range defensive!

I was hoping to hear the mighty 378 wby magnum, but can't argue the other cartridges. I am in the process of building a 378wby right now. Looking forward to loading for it and using it on game.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Ай бұрын

Have fun with that!

I’d pick the 375 Ruger with short barrel and suppressor.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Good choice!

I just got a 378 Weatherby, which if I was going on a Brown Bear hunt, would be my choice. I also have a 340 Weatherby which would be my second choice. My third choice would be my 338 Lapua, only because my 340 Weatherby is much more easier to carry. My 338 Lapua has a 26in barrel, with a muzzle break, my 340 has a 24 in Barrel. My 4th choice would be my 300 Weatherby. My 5th choice would be my 7mm RUM shooting 180 grain bullets at 3100 fps. My 6th choice would be my 300 Win Mag, Weatherby Weathermark, synthetic stock. Realistically, most people will never go Brown Bear hunting, the cost will be around $35-40,000. It is nice to dream though. If I was hunting other game like Moose or Caribou in grizzly country, I would still pack one of my top 3 choices just in case I came across an angry Grizzly wanting to do my or someone in my hunting party harm.

338 WM/ 340 WBY, 9.3x 62/ 9.3x64, 375 H & H/375 Ruger, 416 Rem, 45/70 heavy load

i used a 7.62x39mm for a black bear. in a ar-15 platform, was unusual sighting where i live especially for a black bear. i used that ar until i got the 6.5-300 weatherby magnum. since i got that one don’t touch my other guns. laser beam out to 530 yards, that 6.5-300

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! 6.5-300 is a laser beam

I'm surprised the 325wsm didn't get in here

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Not popular enough

So the Weatherby is the strongest out of the 30 cals or is it the 338 win I'm just curious I just purchased a savage 110 tactical 300 wm but before I purchased it I been hearing 300 wm was the way to go as I was looking for a very strong 30 cal or bigger something right below 50 Cals However I live in hawaii so feral hogs on the island I'm on is the biggest game we hunt but other islands has deer axis deer wild cows big horn sheep mountain goats so one day I'll be going there to hunt with the 300 wm i heard the 300 wm is perfect for those games.

@ReloadingWeatherby

3 ай бұрын

30-378 Weatherby is the most powerful factory offered 30 caliber. Weatherby does make a 338-378 Weatherby which is also the most powerful 338 factory cartridge.

@wahiawabound808

3 ай бұрын

@ReloadingWeatherby ok got it thanks man.

For me, the 9.3X62 is my choice. I live in B.C. Unfamiliar with 9.3X62? Think of it as a .35 Whelen that has been Ackleyized ( Heavy bullets. Projectile weights usually from 300grns to 250grns. "ish". With 286 the most popular for large game. Ruger, Tikka, Sako, Sauer, Blazer chamber rifles in that caliber. You can also find some good old Swedish Husqvarna's chambered in 9.3X62. If you find a Mauser actioned Husqvarna in good or better condition in that caliber, or any other cal, then you've got a great rifle. Mauser action, Swedish steel, back up iron sights (Insert Chefs Kiss here). As for recoil, it doesn't start to become a problem for me as far as quickly getting back on target for a followup until I get to about the .300WinM. I've heard some compare the recoil of the 9.3X62 to the .300WM. Personally, I don't feel that it is. I have both. The 9.3X62 has a kick, but I'm never concerned about it before I shoot it. The .300WM gets a little tiresome after a few shots at the range. This year I'm going to go with the 9.3X62 for all my hunting. The area I'm going to be in is mountainous and heavily forested. I definitely won't have any shots over 300 meters. Probably 200 max with the most likely ranges being 50 to 100 meters. But no matter the caliber, the top 3 things to ensure a successful harvest are 1) Shot placement 2) Shot placement 3) Shot placement. Practice and only use good, bonded or mono projectiles and fully understand the "effective range" of whatever caliber is your preference and how barrel length affects it.

340 Weatherby with 260 grain hammer bullets

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

That's a great choice!

One little factoid to think about is on the Alaska DFG website, they specify the Nosler ABLR, not the AB, for grizzly bear. One shot kills on big bears like that are rare, though. Proceed at own risk.

325 Wsm 338win mag 300win mag 300wsm 300weatherby mag

@TrapperScottyAlaskan

Жыл бұрын

All good choices. Trapper scotty Alaskan

Im gonna list the 5 i own 1.375 rum 2.340 wby 3.8mm rem mag 4.300 rum 5.458 lott Thats the order id use them

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Great list!

Your beloved Weatherby gets the job done here zeroed in at 300 yards, 180 partitions. Trapper scotty,Alaskan

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure it does

375 h&h does not require a 24 inch barrel. I have a sako Kodiak 375 with 21 inch barrel. Lots of ammo available.

@bearhuntd

7 ай бұрын

Like your rig. I have a sako m995 trg w/20" bbl. Love it. Accurate, fast 2nd shot, easy to pack and carry. 2,400 w/300 grn projectiles. Fast to action.

I take my 8,5x55 blaser loaded with 225gr ttsx at 2800fps 💪

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Nice

340, 338 RUM and 338 Lapua are ballisticly about the same thing.

You forgot the 6.5 Creedmoor LOL I'm just kidding you bigger the better for me on this one.

Black bear I’d be fine using a 240 wby. For brown bears you would want more horsepower

@genxiong2695

8 ай бұрын

Good luck if you run across a big 400pounder

Brown bear. Weatherby's magnificent 378 magnum will pulverize them.

I have used 3006 with 180 grain premium bullets to take a 800 lb grizzly and a 1300 lb bison.

@ReloadingWeatherby

9 ай бұрын

Nice!

416 rigby

How many hunts have you been on in Alaska?

@ReloadingWeatherby

11 ай бұрын

5, how about you?

@Win70ew

11 ай бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby I live here so, a couple.

@ReloadingWeatherby

11 ай бұрын

@lloydcoleman9788 So as a resident... was is your preferred cartridge?

@Win70ew

11 ай бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby you named three of my favorites, 30-06, 7 REM Mag and .300 win mag. The hunt I’m going on in a few weeks, I’m taking my 7 REM Mag.

Bearclaw bullets and Nosler Partition.

Brown bear? I'd use a LAW (light anti tank weapon)!

I think the guys over on Rokslide might beg to differ with you and their 223's loaded with 77gr sierra tipped match kings. Me personally I'll go with a 300wm with barnes 180gr ttsx, or federal terminal ascent and good shot placement.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Never heard of Rokslide. They really say to bear hunt with a 223 Remington?

@Longtrailside

Жыл бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby Yep, theres a huge 168 pages of people showing graphic pictures of after the shot of shooting animals. From coyote, deer, elk, bear, and moose. Look for forum labeled, 223 good for bear, deer, elk, and moose. Though lemme check that first, but i know im close to it.

@Longtrailside

Жыл бұрын

I cant post the link here but i might be able to type it out if you cant find it on google or on the site. You dont have to be a member to view the forum unless if you want to comment. Their are some pretty impressive pictures, and make you rethink some of your thinking of needing big calibers, seeing what they post. Bullet technology has come a long way from the days of the nosler partition.Though for me im comfortable using what i have.

@Longtrailside

Жыл бұрын

You must have gotten lost over their. Ill check in on you next week when your done reading the forum. I know its lot to take in, though a great read and lots of knowledge.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

@Longtrailside I'll eventually take a look. Seeing how I like magnums... for me it's not about what can be done with the lightest caliber.

What book is that?

@ReloadingWeatherby

6 ай бұрын

Hornady reloading manual

What book is that in your vid?

@ReloadingWeatherby

4 ай бұрын

Hornady reloading manual

@Tikka510

4 ай бұрын

Thank you love the vids

@ReloadingWeatherby

4 ай бұрын

@@Tikka510 Thanks for watching!

Good choices. Any of 'em will put 'im to sleep. I always felt safe with my Marlin JM 336 carbine, chambered in .35 Remington as enough gun for anything likely to hunt me.

@craigleibbrand7761

Жыл бұрын

You're a fool

338 win mag

If 338 win is great the 340 weatherby is a bit more power.

@bearhuntd

7 ай бұрын

With a 26" bbl and shnting 250 grain bullets, ht eclipses the win mag by 150 fps. or less. Not necessarily an awesome increase...

my choice would be a 300 win mag. With a 200 gr A-frame bullet.

@ReloadingWeatherby

5 ай бұрын

Good choice

All that "power" in the big 30s mean nothing if you don't pick a good bullet. Speed is only an advantage at distance. 338 win mag would be my choice as an Alaskan if I were to go after griz or brownies. I wouldn't feel undergunned with my 30-06 with a good tough bonded bullet though.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Bullet selection is very important

@inupik23

Жыл бұрын

@@ReloadingWeatherby and how well someone can shoot said gun is important as well imo.

@TrapperScottyAlaskan

Жыл бұрын

Well said bro. Trapper

@TrapperScottyAlaskan

Жыл бұрын

Ever shoot the 220 round nose through the 06 ? They hit hard

@inupik23

Жыл бұрын

@@TrapperScottyAlaskan never, but I have some for when I am walking though some thick griz country while carrying my 06.

😎👍👍👍😎

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mike

340 all the way

30-06, 270, 308, 300 win mag.

Rifle choices 1.338 rum. 2.340wby 3.300 rum 4.300 win 5.30-06 For protection 1.45-70 2. 500 s&w 3. 454 casull 4. 460 magnum 5. 44 magnum 6.Glock 20 10mm

First of all do the hunter need to be able to hit where he/she needs to hit. The size and power of the cartridge is totally useless without that happening. So, in many cases will it be much better for a hunter to use a 308 Win with a high quality bullet on brown bears instead of a huge magnum cartridge. Having a cartridge that goes faster than 2800 fps is rather pointless for most bear hunting. Of course there is no drawback in having that as long as you can handle the recoil well. If you can handle a recoil stronger than from a 300 Win Mag, you will for sure benefit much more from increasing the caliber instead of increasing the speed. In most cases you will benefit more from increasing the caliber instead of increasing the speed of what a 30-06 can give. As soon as you reach a speed of about 2800 fps and can handle more recoil, you benefit more from increasing the caliber instead of the speed. 338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen, 9.3x62 and 375 Ruger are all good brown bear cartridges. And why not something like a 416 Ruger as well if you can shoot well with it. As long as the bear is calm and minding his own business, then he is rather easy to kill, but an angry bear because it is wounded or just has a bad attitude and he is full of adrenaline, is a different story, and that is when heavier cartridges really makes a difference. I prefer to use my 375 Ruger when I hunt big critters with an attitude, no matter where it is in the world.

@ReloadingWeatherby

Жыл бұрын

Making an assumption that if you get a big magnum... you will actually shoot it, and practice with it

That 30-378 will make you cry for your mommy.

@ReloadingWeatherby

2 ай бұрын

I have a 340 Weatherby that kicks worse

338win mag vs 9.3x62

RW....honestly,I dont see where velocity carries weight in hunting bears at all. A .30-06 has more than sufficient velocity. All are close enough,penetration and knockdown power would be key for me. We are talking about an animal that if that first shot is not well placed or that bullet doesn't do enough damage is gonna FU up !!!! I want energy foot lbs behind me and the best constructed bullet in the market. There werent enough comments in the forum about bullet types. I believe caliber and bullet type go hand in hand. I was hoping someone who actually killed a Brown bear or grizzly and recovered the bullet would have chimed in. I seriously doubt most here have gone grizzly hunting,certainly not Brown bear hunting.

@ReloadingWeatherby

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I did mention bullet construction a lot. I agree that bullet type is one of the most important

35 whelen is a poor man's magnum and very effective

My preference would be a .300 RUM. It's in between a .300 Win Mag and a .338 is a flat shooter with a lot of retained energy at 300 yards.

7 doesn't have the weight and lacks t H e frontal area same as 35 Whelan smacks harder than 3006

Well, mines bigger than yours, I use a .50 cal MG.

300 win mag is more than enough

@nayrapepenova9325

3 ай бұрын

No a 300 is not more than enough gun. It's entirely dependent on your shot placement. A 338 and up are stopping cartridges. You want to use a stopping cartridge with heavy bullet on a grizzly.

Just get a 35 whelen and Bear Hunt

A guy who went on an Alaskan "canned" Grizzly hunt told me they pulled up on a boat, spotted a Grizzly, landed, walked a couple a hundred feet and shot said bear from about 200yds away on the shoreline. He was using a 338-378Wby. Said the bear dropped on the spot. This was in 2000, so I'm assuming he used a bonded bullet of some kind. I'm guessing most guided bear hunts are similar. If so, any of the cartridges you listed would yield a humane harvest.

You can't shoot the big magnum as accurate as you can the old 30-06 no one can

@ReloadingWeatherby

Ай бұрын

Speak for yourself...kzread.info6h_2FTVhcUI?si=usXt1f8S5horsILx

I haven't used in a few years, damn cancer.

@ReloadingWeatherby

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Sorry to hear about your cancer.

@jamespmullin21753

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@@ReloadingWeatherby Only 9 treatments left out of 39. Oncologist says he thinks i'll be cancer free by my last appt, July 12. Looks like I'll be able to hunt again.

@ReloadingWeatherby

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@@jamespmullin21753 Congrats!

@jamespmullin21753

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@@ReloadingWeatherby Thanks Buddy

@jamespmullin21753

11 ай бұрын

Almost ready to go hunting again. I will take 7mm Remmag and GP100 357 sidearm. They say I'm healed.

Yes sir i agree with all your mentioned cartridges. Id never recommend the 30'06 to anyone because they do not make loads in the 200 and 220gr Partition.

@SamLloyd-fp8dq

11 ай бұрын

Lol Remington makes 220 grain for 30-06. Try and fail again.

@b01tact10n

11 ай бұрын

@@SamLloyd-fp8dqthere is corelokt 220s , but ive used 180 Partition exclusively along with the 200, and 220semispitzer is what I would recommend. I've never used the Barnes bullets for hunting anything due to the fact that why change what works well for me for over 30 years. I get as close as I can possibly get to attempt to make a clean headshots. The reason why I'd recommend the .338WINMAG because everyone I know take engine room shots from over 200yds. It's way too dangerous to get any closer than 100yds.

Most Alaskans uses 30-30

@ReloadingWeatherby

4 ай бұрын

Right...